The Good, the Bad and the Ugly: Panthers vs Packers
Aaron hands out the Good, the Bad and the Ugly from the Green Bay Packers Week 9 loss to the Carolina Panthers.
By PackerAaron
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Racingdad
November 02, 2025 at 07:54 pm
Did not see much good , only bad and ugly
rstain99
November 03, 2025 at 05:27 am
Think you are spot on, all the great feelings after just last week are gone. Losing Tucker Kraft took away their hearts. MLF continues to stumble calling plays, the all or nothing offense is biting them in the back. They ran the ball ok, but the chucks down the field bit them right in the arse. How many times can Love miss the open guy not saying overthrow he locks in on a receiver, (Doubs) misses Musgrave down the seam. Hate to give Parsons a minus think he held up against the run. All the holding on him two guys where was R Gary ? no show. The Pats dropped 49 on these guys just a couple of weeks ago and GB can manage on 1 touchdown. Old expression 3 things are for sure
Death
Taxes
And come crucial time in game K Nixon is going to get a terribly timed penalty, check it think at least 8 games in a row.
1. good not much, McKinney with interception
2. bad team over al
3 Ugly (besides losing Kraft) carelessness with the ball, play calling no 6-10 yard pass offense, please get rid of the wide receiver screens they the wide receivers have to block and this crew does not..
KenEllis
November 02, 2025 at 07:58 pm
GOOD = the amount of booing I heard at Lambeau today. Have not heard that in many, many years. Spoke to a lot of fans who are losing faith or who have already lost faith in the head coach.
BAD = Head scratching play calling. Like seriously did not understand on numerous occoasions what Matt was doing today. Bizarre.
UGLY = Favorite player Tucker Kraft suffering a devastating knee injury. Ugly and very sad.
asmith1969
November 02, 2025 at 08:12 pm
Well, this one blew chunks. Painful. Onto my awards (or lack thereof).
Good-Yep, X is a Dawg at safety. Consummate team player and leader. Arguably, Gute’s best free agent signing.
Bad-Speaking of free agents, both Banks and Hobbs. Yep, I’m ready to call both of them busts especially on the salary and bonuses that were given out. They cannot stay healthy and when they are, there is little to no impact on either side of the ball respectively.
Ugly-Without a doubt, it’s Kraft’s injury. This is awful. Kraft was on the verge of stardom. He has youth on his side but an ACL is no guarantee of a complete recovery. Regardless…GO PACK GO!
Since'75
November 02, 2025 at 09:05 pm
Keep the faith.....
I remember some guy named Jordy Nelson who tore his ACL and missed a season.
Then came back the next season and led the league in TD catches.
splitpea1
November 02, 2025 at 08:30 pm
What sucked about the first Love interception was that he had Musgrave open for a short throw to the right which would have probably yielded nice YAC.
Good (for Panthers): On the play before the second INT, safety Moehrig was right there, like instantaneously, for the textbook takedown on Wilson for a loss. He must have been watching film and knew exactly what was coming.
Bad: Defense on the final drive, which came up short when it mattered most. I give credit to Young for making a couple of nice plays, but that 19-yard run by Dowdle was the backbreaker. It was bad enough he got through the DL with ease, but no LBs were in the vicinity, Only McKinney saved a TD, but not before the Panthers were in FG range.
bleedgreen
November 03, 2025 at 11:28 am
Packers should start watching film like that and actually come up with game plans.
Since'75
November 02, 2025 at 08:39 pm
The good, the bad, and the Packers.
Packerpasty
November 02, 2025 at 08:51 pm
The worst..seven years of zero growth shown by the head coach, the young genius……
bleedgreen
November 03, 2025 at 11:31 am
I was calling for MLFs head last week in the first half. Then after second half I felt a little bad about that. Not anymore. MLF has to go or this team will not get better. Seven years of this same crap now.
Since'75
November 02, 2025 at 09:02 pm
Looks like Tucker is out for awhile, maybe the season, we'll have to wait and see.
Tucker is our only receiver (TE) in the NFL top 50 (21), besides Doubs (46)
Hopefully Love and Musgrave can develop some chemistry and figure this out.
Otherwise, maybe we can all stop pretending that Musgrave was a good 2nd round pick. 🤷♂️
Seems to me that with Watson back in the fold, he and Love can replace some of Krafts production.
Feel damn bad for Kraft, he seemed to be on a rocket to being one of the top tight ends in the league.
Hopefully after recovery, he still will be. The man has skills.
Godspeed to him.
stockholder
November 02, 2025 at 09:17 pm
good -Reed will be back
Bad- Kraft injury
The ugly- - Talk of MLf being Fired.
Tex49
November 02, 2025 at 09:20 pm
Good - the game is over
Bad - the game started
Ugly - everything Packers
Don’t see the genius of Lafleur’s play calling seems bland and scared.
I can live with Love trying to make a play but even Favre thought that throw to Watson was a bad idea.
Jaqu’eau
November 02, 2025 at 09:47 pm
Aaron nailed it, it seems the the team physically didn’t get out of bed until just before kickoff. Mentally they never did. Ugly game. Whatever game day routine they have going needs to be dismantled, thrown out, and forgotten. There seems to be very little team chemistry.
Major Snafu
November 02, 2025 at 10:05 pm
Good- fans awakening to the fact this ain't a very good team
Bad - defense again. Funny last year I said McKinney had three interceptions being in the wrong place and catching an errant ball. Today ditto, he should of been covering someone and not just standing in the endzone hawking for a bad pass.
Ugly - Love. All his game is looking for Dobbs to get open. He twice threw short of the yard to gain and hit Dobbs to get rid of ball when he had two receivers wide open for an easy first. Why aren't they calling pass plays in to the end zone inside the 20 instead of screens and two runs. I don't think Love 8s too bright and LeFleur has made it simple on him.
NFLfan
November 02, 2025 at 10:08 pm
Matt is not supervising and holding himself and his team accountable for lazy attitudes, penalties.
It's disrespectful to fans who have paid for tickets, travel, etc.
I'd make all of them do laps and push-ups everyday for 1 week, (I'd include MLF)--Vrable doesn't even allow his team to wear hoodies or arrive late to meetings.
Snap the ball
November 02, 2025 at 10:13 pm
Good I don’t like saying it. But MLF about out the door
Bad. McManus. Come on …
Ugly Love and MLf. We run lots of sit down routes ….We don’t have any flow in the Offense.
No long game other than throw it up and see what happens in triple coverage,
No short passing game today…
How come other team receivers catch the ball and run. We catch the ball and sit down just usually to get a first down,
So we can run on 2nd down. We run on 2nd down more than any team in the nfl.
The routes the receivers run take to long to develop
The pass he threw to Doubs for td. Zero percent chance of catching at that angle.
I think the next coach for the Packers is the Carolina D coordinator if not Hafley.
The offense is stale and boring ….
pacman
November 02, 2025 at 10:14 pm
Good - finally seems to be critical mass of frustration that something has to change with Packer management - like the head coach. Maybe there will be accountability for a team playing so inconsistently. He's not the worst coach. Just not good enough. The culture of keeping bad coaches around too long, bad special teams too long and now this idiocy of pushing McManus back in and not riding the hot kicker. The Packers have become a team focused on helping mediocrity improve rather than getting rid of it.
Bad - Jordan Love - for thinking he is the next Aaron Rodgers. Last week he got lucky on a long throw and a floater and this week he triples down. Almost all are very under-thrown. He has shown talent making the short and intermediate throws. We don't need him to be AR2 if the defense plays like it 'could' and the run game holds up. But he doesn't show that superstar ability to make those long bombs (without some luck) so I would rather him not try.
Ugly - playing down to the competition again and making them look like SB teams.
Snap the ball
November 02, 2025 at 10:16 pm
Maybe Matt great coach and offensive but. Maybe they stop playing for him.
I would say get Seattle Gm to draft better than us.
NFLfan
November 02, 2025 at 10:28 pm
Packer's organization spends boatloads of money and draft Capital on players but keeps sub-par coaches, esp. on Offense--Butkus, Stenovich, Hackett, Getsy are uninspiring. MLF needs a real OC who can @ least help him formulate a coherent game plan and collaborate in-game. What gives this dude the right to carry on weekly without fixing his game management? Frankly, they needed to lose to feel the shame and embarrassment. Barely winning sloppy games lets him off the hook.
Gute is not blameless either-there is no vet depth as a result of mistakes in early rounds.
Jacobs and Kraft are the real leaders and never goof off.
Snap the ball
November 02, 2025 at 10:49 pm
We barely beat Arizona
NFLfan
November 02, 2025 at 10:34 pm
Did Aaron Rodgers just chuck up balls to whomever? His receivers ran routes, he knew where they were.
He's also dealing with a bad O-Line.
Snap the ball
November 02, 2025 at 10:47 pm
Some of the worse energy I seen in along time. That’s on the coach and team captains
I don’t think the noon games do us any favors ..
Need to get to bed and get up ready to go.
Should have kept Eric Wilson also.
Look at the Seahawks. Players energy and few other teams like that.
Poor energy today
We had the ball 1 possession in the 1st qtr. read my lips. 1.
Li
Since'75
November 03, 2025 at 06:51 am
Maybe the Packers could request to the NFL.....
Only 3pm and prime time games, so the team can sleep in.
^Sarcasm^
bassrock
November 03, 2025 at 01:29 pm
If you can't be prepared for a noon game you are an embarrassment. Worse excuse for poor play I have heard.
Snap the ball
November 02, 2025 at 10:50 pm
McManus looked like he tried to miss it…
Snap the ball
November 02, 2025 at 10:53 pm
No yac by receiver’s Catch. And fall down….
No defense pressure on back up linemen for Carolina
Qb rating 48. For them we lose at home
Nobuttkiss
November 03, 2025 at 06:48 am
Ban the bubblehead ..... this is NFL football.
Next, players be running around wearing blowup suits with a little fan keeping it inflated.
bassrock
November 03, 2025 at 01:36 pm
So someone staying healthy concerns you? Get a life. They affect nothing pertaining to the game except allowing Doubs to not have another concussion every other week.
Starrbrite
November 02, 2025 at 10:59 pm
I’m watching the game recalling that last week Love was named the player of the week; and Parsons the defensive player of the month. …and today against the hapless Panthers, zero sacks/pressures and what should’ve been two lousy INTs rather than one—WTH?
Simple offense looks sooo hard to execute. Poor pass pro; receivers seldom open; running looks difficult.
I begged the Packers to sign McAnus…and now he looks like Narveson—Geesh!
Someone recently mentioned a lack of depth in our coaching staff—I think that is true—especially on offense.
Very disappointed for Kraft—my S.Dak native. He will recover with a fury.
Somehow I have an optimistic belief we will beat the Eagles—maybe I’m dreaming?
Go Packers!!!
Snap the ball
November 03, 2025 at 12:25 am
The good the Dallas playoff win
The Bad. Teams don’t let us do that anymore
The ugly We need better QB play. Yes numbers are good because of Kraft but other receivers no yac
Wicks if healthy brings a lot need to get him involved hopefully this week and get Reed back.
In a jump start to the run game ..
Jacob’s needs 23 carries next game to win
Spock
November 03, 2025 at 04:05 am
I could only listen to the game (guess I should be thankful) and that was bad enough. At one point (I think it was after another good play wiped out by a boneheaded Packer penalty) Wayne Larivee said to Larry, "It's like going to the dentist and having a tooth pulled without Novocain." I imagine people who bought those "lucky" 1923 jerseys must be having buyer's remorse. The worst thing is Kraft being injured, especially with the Eagles game coming up.
SinceLombardi
November 03, 2025 at 06:21 am
GOOD: There is none when you lose to a very flawed team at home.
BAD : The realization that nothing has improved/changed since 2019. Absolutely nothing. And even worse, we will probably have to deal with Matt LaFleur in 2026.
UGLY: obviously when any player is seriously injured. Tucker Kraft was a rising star and serious injuries always suck, win or lose.
mrtundra
November 03, 2025 at 07:58 am
Good: Gotta go with X, Musgrave and Brooks
Bad: Losing to the Panthers, an inferior team. The Love INT looked an awful lot like Rodgers vs the Jets, throwing into double/triple coverage. Our Run defense was porous. McManus.
Ugly: MLF did not have this team prepared, again! A LOSS AT LAMBEAU FIELD! Where is our pride? The worst of the ugly is the Kraft injury. Golden injury.
Father Guido Sarducci
November 03, 2025 at 09:40 am
Good = The Packers are still 5-2-1 and lead the NFC North. It would have been nice to jump a game on Detroit as they lost.
Bad = The Offensive Line has been downright offensive. They lack cohesion. Especially when Aaron Banks is in and out of the lineup with his injuries. Missed blocks, communication issues and the plug and play with the players.
Ugly = obviously Tucker Krafts injury. However……too many question marks with this team. 1.). Why throw a WR screen in the Red Zone? 3&3 and we call one. Why pass the ball three yards behind the line of scrimmage? 2.). Where’s the leadership, the fire that the team had in Weeks One and Two? 3.) Who on the D-line will step up their game when Parsons is taken out of plays, as he can’t due it all? 4.) Does Hafley trust his Cornerbacks when the pass rush doesn’t get home? 5.) Apparently at the end of the game when Rico Dowdle ran for 19 yards to help set up the game winning FG, Hafley called a pass defensive play. Why? Young didn’t do much passing throughout the game. Plus it was windy, so why put the ball in his hands to make plays? 6.). Is McManus 100% healthy? All three games we lost and tied, there was kicking issues. Yet we have McManus who may not be 100% kicking?
Strat
November 03, 2025 at 10:37 am
The good: It wasn't televised in my area...
The Bad: ...but even following it online and on my phone, I could tell how ridiculously bad they were. Fourth and 8, no FG try, that honestly made my damn head hurt. In a game where points were tough to come by, you take the easy ones...26 yard FG should be considered easy.
The Ugly: Maybe if they put as much thought and effort into preparing for the game, as they do picking out their outfits so they can look like a bunch of bad MFers walking into Lambeau, they might not get their ass handed to them like they did.
ReggieWhite92
November 03, 2025 at 12:53 pm
Exactly. Going for it on 4th & 8 when the 3 points (if BMac made it) would be huge.
Horrible coaching there. Horrible screen call too.
And why is our #1 TE pull blocking amongst the OL interior where for some reason the defenders are allowed to dive straight into the knees? That's a rule that needs to be fixed.