The beginning of the end for Aaron Rodgers and the Packers

Aaron Nagler reacts to Aaron Rodgers' appearance on the Pat McAfee Show.

 

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Norm's picture

March 15, 2023 at 12:51 pm

Darin who?

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Coldworld's picture

March 15, 2023 at 12:54 pm

He wants to play for the Jets, but does not unequivocally state that he will retire if he can’t but says it’s the Packers not getting the compensation that they want that’s preventing the deal from going through.

In other words, it’s not his fault, but all options remain the same. This deal could very easily fall apart based on what he said. No beginnings of ends here, just a clarification of the obstacle. We already knew per Murphy that the Packers want him gone.

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Guam's picture

March 15, 2023 at 01:05 pm

We do have more clarity than before CW. Rodgers has made it clear he wants to play in 2023 and preferably for the Jets. This puts public pressure on the Jets to consummate the deal. And public pressure on the Packers to get something for Rodgers rather than get nothing if he rides into retirement. While the deal could still fall through, I am more optimistic than before that it gets done.

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T7Steve's picture

March 15, 2023 at 01:07 pm

He screwed the Packers chances for a big haul by saying he'll retire if he doesn't go to the Jets. Now the Jets just have to say, "give him to us cheap or you get nothing".

Is he just trying to help out his new team? You'd think he'd want a blockbuster to bolster his legacy.

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Guam's picture

March 15, 2023 at 01:15 pm

Do you really think the Jets fans will go quietly if appropriate compensation can't be worked out? Woody Johnson and the Jets management might get tarred, feathered and run out of town on a rail (to use a very old idiom). I think there is more pressure on the Jets than the Packers now.

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greengold's picture

March 15, 2023 at 05:40 pm

Guam, you are 100% on the mark.

Woody Johnson has everything to lose if he fails to put his money where his mouth is and do, in his words: “everything we can to make it happen.”

Jets fans will lose their shit if he goes back on his word. Especially after all of his big talk. Fuck him. We’re not paying for his Super Bowl.

This is all on Woody to cough up the picks/players for ample compensation to the Packers.

I could seriously give a rats ass what former Jets GM, Mike Tanenbaum, opines on ESPN. Favre was 15 years ago.

If NYJ wants GB to pay a bigger portion of any reworked deal to fit Rodgers into the Jets cap, Woody can cough up more.

Additional players, “plug & play starters,” Woody? Your words.

Put up or sit the F down & take a gigantic burn from your own fans.

The Packers should get fair market price - and 4 MVPs should offset Rodgers’ 4 additional years in age from Matthew Stafford‘s deal in establishing true market price.

Woody Johnson… pay up.

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UdderApocowlipse's picture

March 15, 2023 at 09:47 pm

Not only will Woody Johnson have to put his assets where his mouth is, but each additional signing increases the pressure to acquiesce and pay the Packers the asking price Rodgers commands. And it's likely Rodgers is 100% aware of this. It was inevitable negotiations would reach this point and the reason I think the Jets GM will blink first is because the Packers are under much less pressure.

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greengold's picture

March 16, 2023 at 09:29 am

That's a great point UA.

I hadn't considered AR being able to play both angles in this, saying, "they're trying to get more in compensation," while at the same time, completely throwing the onus squarely unto Woody Johnson to bring the deal home, and make Aaron Rodgers a Jet, but, there you go!

The Hackett signing started that ball into motion. It's not like that Jets Offense is going to hit on all cylinders with a new OC without any QB1 other than Aaron Rodgers. They know each other and know exactly what they want to do.

Then the Lazard signing, which was good for the Jets whether AR is there or not they signed AR, but further compounds the pressure build even more so. He's a fantastic player in an all around sense, and is inextricably linked to AR.

The pressure on Woody Johnson grows with every passing minute. The smart play for him is to simply toss another draft pick to the Packers, bring Rodgers in to help with their draft, and get the 12 Rodgers jersey sales rolling hard.

Namath gave his OK to this, bringing his number out of retirement for Aaron Rodgers... It's all on Woody.

What hasn't gone up in price since the Jets gave the Packers an R4 for Brett Favre in 2008? 15 years ago? FFS, Woody Johnson!

The Matthew Stafford deal is probably the best, closest indicator for today's fair market value, which is determined by what that market bears. You know this. The Packers didn't just fall off the turnip truck.

While Stafford was 6 years younger than Rodgers at the time of his trade, he did not bring with him a Super Bowl ring, and the experience that goes along with that, nor a bag containing 4 MVP trophies. Stafford didn't have one.

Don't forget the Rams paid $22M for Goff to play for Detroit, and took on Stafford's $42M contract.

At some point, those factors should cancel out somewhat, and do not for a second think you can try to leverage this as only a ONE YEAR DEAL. I call bullshit on that.

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LambeauPlain's picture

March 15, 2023 at 06:09 pm

I have a different view...just a few weeks ago Rodgers was 90% certain he would retire. He changed his mind.

Between now and June 1 the Jets will demand a discount from the Packers 100% confident Rodgers would NOT play for the Patriots, or the Ravens, or the Texans, or the Seahawks or even the Niners should they make a deal with the Packers?

Rodgers does change his mind. Frequently. Ask his fiancé's.

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Leatherhead's picture

March 15, 2023 at 01:18 pm

Ah, yes, the compensation......

IMO, this is a word with more than one meaning here. Yes, draft picks and players. It also means money. In this case, there's that small matter of the $100 million we owe Rodgers . Would it be out of line for the Packers to ask for some concessions there? I don't think so.

"We'll trade you to the Jets, but we want to talk about that $100 million".

Then if Rodgers wants to play, instead of retire, some kind of agreement could be reached.??

All along, the thing that made the least sense to me was the contract from last Spring, and recovering some of it would help it make more sense.

It could be a mix of picks, players, and financial considerations that are the "compensation" the Packers want. In fact, that's exactly what I think is happening. If some of that $100 million goes away, then maybe we're talking about one pick and one player. If none of it goes away, maybe it's several picks and players.

In other words......The Packers hold the cards, as they always have. As Murphy said last Friday, "things have to work out".

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OK. Horror story time. Let's say the deal does not get done. What next? All along, I have believed the adults in the room would prevail and an agreement would be worked out, but if it isn't, what happens to Rodgers? He's done in Green Bay, he won't be the backup or inactive 3rd string guy. If we cut him, then anybody can sign him for whatever they want.

Crystal Ball: The deal gets done. We get a pick, a player, and financial concessions.

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jurp's picture

March 15, 2023 at 05:18 pm

If we cut Rodgers, I do wonder what his compensation will wind up being. Will it be what his current contract calls for? In other words, will Rodgers be financially worse off if he's cut than if he's traded?

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

March 16, 2023 at 10:31 am

I understand the implications of the cap and hopefully the Pack can shave off some of the $100 million, but priority 1 IMHO is getting a number of high draft choices to select young players on rookie salaries that take us past the 2024 season & the cap hell we presently are in.

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Since'61's picture

March 15, 2023 at 12:59 pm

It is looking like Rodgers is gone either way. The only question is whether or not the Packers and Jets can agree on the price for Rodgers. If the Jets don't want to meet the Packers price I'm not sure what will happen. Rodgers will probably retire but that leaves the Packers on the hook for at least $40 million on their 2023 cap and nearly $60 million if he retires after June.

Once again it appears that the media has had this all wrong from the beginning. "Beware the Ides of March." Apparently the saga goes on. Thanks, Since '61

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Guam's picture

March 15, 2023 at 01:12 pm

Agreed Since '61. The Love era has begun as Rodgers is not coming back to the Packers. Packer management indicated they wanted to move on and I suspect that insulted Rodgers to the point he would not agree to play for the Packers again. Hopefully a deal gets worked out that gives the Packers good compensation and Rodgers plays with a chip on his shoulder for the Jets. Win-win.

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LambeauPlain's picture

March 15, 2023 at 06:14 pm

I don't think the Packers insulted Rodgers when they told him they were moving on.

He was already 90% certain he would retire before his darkness interlude. Packers knew that.

Why would he be insulted the Packers are facilitating a trade to a team he now wants to play for?

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Guam's picture

March 16, 2023 at 08:06 am

It doesn't have to be rational LP. Rodgers has historically gotten bent out of shape over other people's decisions (like getting passed over by23 teams in the 2005 draft). He uses imagined slights to fuel him. Do you really think the Packers moving on won't provide Rodgers with a chip on his shoulder?

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Leatherhead's picture

March 15, 2023 at 01:25 pm

"" If the Jets don't want to meet the Packers price I'm not sure what will happen"

The Question of the Day. I know that he's finished in Green Bay. I know that if the Jets go cheap and "things don't work out " (that's Murphy) then the Packers can just tell Woody to take a hike. Their fans will go berserk. So I don't think that's going to be the deal breaker.

IMO, there's the matter of the $100 million that we owe Rodgers, thanks to the contract we signed 1 year ago. Surely, the Packers want Rodgers to make some concessions there.

So it might not be a matter of the Jets not agreeing on the price; it might be a case of the Packers wanting some of that money back.

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If he's not traded, he's on the roster until he's not. He knows he's not wanted in Green Bay anymore. At some point, the Packers would have to cut him. I suppose they could put him on some special status so he doesn't have to show up but we'd still own his rights. But the truth is, I'm not sure what happens if people don't act in the best interests of all parties......Rodgers wants to play, the Jets want Rodgers, the Packers want Compensation. Everybody can win here.

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Coldworld's picture

March 15, 2023 at 07:05 pm

We can’t just put him on a special status unless he refuses to turn up well into the season or retires. However, unless he files and does not rescind his papers we still have to carry the cap hit until it’s proven by absence this year.

If there is no trade and no other suitor pops up, the Packers will have to deal with him and probably cut him, with a post June 1 designation, taking the option and hit over two years. Then he’s a true FA. He can essentially force his freedom using the 60 million that kicks in if he’s rostered. Murphy gave him all the aces if he is willing to use them. We’d get nothing if he has to be cut. He’d be entirely free.

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Leatherhead's picture

March 15, 2023 at 01:35 pm

""Once again it appears that the media has had this all wrong from the beginning. """

Yes, but it's just football. It's not like it's about important stuff.

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BirdDogUni's picture

March 15, 2023 at 08:09 pm

Cuz we all know the media doesn't get anything but sports wrong, right? ; )

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bottlefliper's picture

March 16, 2023 at 02:37 am

Dont know what "the media" is but you can be sure that that fox an his usefull idiots are killed the truth. And the real media and we all have to pay the price. So the weakest, dumbest 10% think fox is media.
At least I got my team back and like most of the time, the media was right about that. Just from the start.
By the way McAffy is just the kind of media AR likes and that explains a lot. Even it is no media. Just a hillbilly in underwear

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

March 16, 2023 at 12:15 am

The media's wrong about everything else too, important or not. At least they're consistent! Football writers are considerably more accurate than journalists re: important stuff.

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BirdDogUni's picture

March 16, 2023 at 01:01 am

*There are journalists?

Oh, you mean the talking heads for the "New World Order?"

Right, and Epstein killed himself...

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bottlefliper's picture

March 16, 2023 at 02:50 am

.............way more good reporters than bad and if you count the hate and fear factories out, then you have 90% good ones.
New World Order is a funny story for the brainwashed. But hey, if you believe the earth is flath, than you believe everything. And like always....they got really everything wrong.
Dont know about Trumps Epstein besides that he was way more than his dealer

Lombardi was always right about that kind of people and he was an even better human as a coach. Just great. And today you can see all his believes have just right. Thanks for that...

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Lphill's picture

March 16, 2023 at 10:35 am

Trump has no connection to Epstein other than being real estate adversaries, nice try.

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Leatherhead's picture

March 16, 2023 at 02:29 pm

Of course he did. Someone already told me that.

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croatpackfan's picture

March 15, 2023 at 01:01 pm

He said everything that is appropriate to say. Thank him on that. It will make transition easier and all honors he deserved to be assigned to him will be done with appreciations.

I hoped for that way to end his Green Bay Packers career, so all Packers fans can cheer for his implementation in Packers HOF and retirement #12 in his honor.

Well done ACR! Well done!

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

March 15, 2023 at 03:36 pm

Yeah, you're happy GB pushed him out the door. And he handled it well, unlike the front office, which is the actual one that waffled on intentions. For weeks fans have blamed Rodgers for something he didn't do.

Now you like him, b/c you're happy he's out the door. We'll see how the Love era goes, whether in hindsight we'll wish we had more of Rodgers' mastery of the game or not. Only time will tell.

But all the hatred of Rodgers on this site has me nauseated. It's GB that changed their minds and after telling him and world they wanted him back and he was the QB for the next several years, they bailed a year into a massive contract.

Zero, zero of that is on Rodgers. NOT HIS FAULT. It's not his fault they left him with rookies and retreads at the WR position. Not his fault the defense played like a high school defense for 2/3 of the season. Not his fault his thumb got broken. But fans need to blame, so they blame him.

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croatpackfan's picture

March 15, 2023 at 04:10 pm

Yeah. He is very trusted source. Like immunization thing. Like I will never ever play for Packers. Or trashing with no brakes FO and Packers organization (who he love immeasurably) at the begginig of the 2021 TC.

What I learned in my life is that when 2 parties (or person) are in an argument, both sides are at some extent guilty.

He asked for clear statement from Packers at the end of the season and, as I remember no one said explicitly that they want him back. They stated they want all of their guys back. That statement was similar to ACR statements from 2017 to today. Very foggy. So, he picked what he wanted. They told him he has no schedule for his decision to make, but would like it sooner than later. So, what he did? He heard from some unidentified sources that Packers are shopping him. Wow. Did he called Packers to ask them about those rumors. By his words - No. So, he decide to listen to the rumors, not to ask direct question. To the organization whom he accused that they told him he can come back when season finished. Or, better to say, they did not told him they do not want them to be back. But that was his feeling like they do not want him etc, etc, etc.

This paragraph looks little messy, isn't it? That is how his comments on the situation looks like. Messy!

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 15, 2023 at 04:27 pm

The Choir always backs the crooked Preachers.

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greengold's picture

March 15, 2023 at 04:44 pm

LOL.

(Falsetto - thanks jurp!) "Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!"

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jurp's picture

March 15, 2023 at 05:21 pm

Boy, that Kool-aid must taste really yummy. Too bad I kept puking mine up.

"Zero, zero of that is on Rodgers. NOT HIS FAULT. It's not his fault they left him with rookies and retreads at the WR position. Not his fault the defense played like a high school defense for 2/3 of the season. Not his fault his thumb got broken. But fans need to blame, so they blame him."

I just have two things to say about that: 2020 and 2021.

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cpabandit's picture

March 15, 2023 at 08:29 pm

Aren't those two years the years he choked in the Championship Games? Zebras don't change their stripes. He will choke again but in NY! And unlike the Green Bay pussycats media, the New York media, oh that NY MEDIA will rip Rodgers to shreds again and again and again. And the sensitive diva will go away crying once again and hide in his dark room.

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LambeauPlain's picture

March 15, 2023 at 06:29 pm

You are nauseated by perceived hatred from others toward a football player? That's not good.

I don't think many, if any hate Rodgers. I certainly do not. I do wish he was a Bronco, but Murphy and MLF likely nixed that last year.

And maybe MLF got fed up with Rodgers last season...IDK. At least Murphy is admitting he made a stupid decision last year. And has agreed to move on. Rodgers stated he is ready to move on too.

Jets need to decide. And they have no clue who is also calling the Packers.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

March 15, 2023 at 11:17 pm

I get for some fans the thought of Aaron Rodgers being traded is very emotional. Westcoast has no idea what truly happened that made the Packers change their mind if that is actually true. Of course, the Packer organization will never discuss and share what AR was doing & why they decided to boot him. There is always two sides of the story!

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 17, 2023 at 01:07 pm

MONEY.

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greengold's picture

March 15, 2023 at 06:43 pm

“But all the hatred of Rodgers on this site has me nauseated.”

C’mon WCPF. I won’t be saddened in the least when he’s gone, but I don’t hate the man.

I’ll always appreciate his good & magical years in a Packers uniform. Yet, there’s much that he did wearing the green & gold that I disagreed with going back a decade or more.

He simply didn’t deliver as promised after being made the NFL’s highest paid player how many times as a Packer?

If a Packer fan doesn’t bow at Rodgers’ feet according to some here, they’re labeled, “haters.”

Tiresome doesn’t adequately describe that BS.

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Rarescope's picture

March 15, 2023 at 10:33 pm

Greengold: If a Packer fan doesn’t bow at Rodgers’ feet according to some here, they’re labeled, “haters.”

I don’t think the OP was referring to you. Anyone who reads these comments regularly knows who the regulars are that actually have reasoned views on things more or less. Yourself, CW, Leatherhead, Dobber, Birddoguni, Since ‘61, even Croatpackfan dropped his name calling a little while back, and I’m sure there are a few others I’m forgetting. It’s the “fans” who just come here to drop their daily “Rogers SUX!!!” comments on every article that get annoying.

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Coldworld's picture

March 15, 2023 at 07:11 pm

No, Rodgers is in fact an infallible, all virtuous paradigm of a being untouched by sin or error.

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greengold's picture

March 15, 2023 at 09:20 pm

My bad.

All kidding aside, our losses were team losses. We dissected 12 years of autopsies on the why’s. Prior to the 2010 season, we dissected another 14 more seasons? That is the only thing that brings any kind of nausea onto this fan, who’s grateful to not be a fan of other teams we can readily mention.

Too numerous to repeat, but, the point is there are rational fans who have seen the failures through different lenses. Plenty of blame for those losses to go around recalling the games & discussions. Players, coaches, GM, FO… it runs the gamut, and no rational fan I and others posting here their thoughts lays all of the blame on one player.

Since we’re talking about Rodgers, we’ve seen him help us and hurt us in that span, like many, many others.

This shouldn’t have been required to say, but… best to put that stuff to bed straight away.

“Haters,” implies something completely erroneous. Receipts? Those are held within the vaults of CHTV’s massive servers.

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SoCalJim's picture

March 15, 2023 at 09:34 pm

Hahaha!

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bottlefliper's picture

March 16, 2023 at 03:03 am

We all like him out of the door. You can your kids let watch the Pack again. You habe the joy back in the sport and we even have the chance to win an important game.
Many in and out of the organization will be happy today.
Happy for the Jets, they got all the eyerolling, the complaining, the lack of joy......

He was 90% retired and that his ego keep him playing to show he still can. Thats what he is. The Packers the best way possible, but a fella like him is not easy to handle.

The only sad part is, that he might just come away with all his on aand off the field antics if he just had won a big game. Thats the sad part. It was not all of his bad stuff. It was his lack of winning when it counts who got him out of the door.

But for some here nothing is his fault. If we win, he carried us (what he never did, not even in 2011) and when we loose, its everybody elses fault. Crazzie. He got more help than any other top QB and made nothing out of it.
He was never a leader and he got one SB win, half of Mark Murphys. Think about that.....

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Spawny's picture

March 16, 2023 at 08:32 am

I couldnt agree with you more.

Front office has buffooned their way into driving Rodgers out. Rodgers is smarter than Gutey Less, Smurph, and La Stink.
You want your cake and eat it to? Well Rodgers crapped in your cake, Now choke on it !

This tells the rest of the NFL what a bunch of arrogant morons the Pack front office is. What free agent will sign with this group of chicken shit losers.

Smurph, you dont need to wait on mandatory retirement. Gutey Less your arrogance has cost the Pack $100m. La Stink welcome to the big boy room. Take your defensive coordinator and please leave the room.

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BamaPackFan's picture

March 15, 2023 at 01:31 pm

So glad we don't have to pay our back-up QB 60 Million.

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BamaPackFan's picture

March 15, 2023 at 01:31 pm

So glad we don't have to pay our back-up QB 60 Million.

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Spawny's picture

March 16, 2023 at 08:39 am

Another idiot from Alabam...

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marpag1's picture

March 15, 2023 at 01:36 pm

Thanks, but I'm not very interested in "The Beginning of the End."

Don't need to read the next article, which will probably be entitled, "The Second Quarter of the End."

I'll pass on "It Seems We're About Halfway to the End."

Don't wanna read, "Schefter report: 'We're almost at the end.'"

No thanks to "THE END IS NEAR!!"

Not even going to read, "Holy Shit!! Is that the End?"

Wake me when we get to "The End of the End."

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SoCalJim's picture

March 15, 2023 at 01:50 pm

Amen!

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PackAttack4155's picture

March 15, 2023 at 02:31 pm

You might want to disconnect your wifi/data for a few weeks, or you'll have little chance of avoiding what are likely the exact headlines we'll soon be seeing!

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T7Steve's picture

March 15, 2023 at 03:00 pm

It's never over till it's over.

You read my thoughts. That might have been easy as we're all open books here on CHTV.

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jurp's picture

March 15, 2023 at 05:22 pm

The End of the End = The Beginning of the Beginning. It's all just one circle..

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bottlefliper's picture

March 16, 2023 at 03:05 am

Thanks God its the end, even its a little late, we can start from here pretty good

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Spawny's picture

March 16, 2023 at 08:41 am

Yep. The fat lady has sung. Not hard to find a fat lady in Green Bay.

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T7Steve's picture

March 17, 2023 at 07:43 am

I resemble that remark!

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

March 16, 2023 at 11:33 am

I am partial to:

The End is Nigh.

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Harold Drake's picture

March 15, 2023 at 02:24 pm

Do not go gentle into that good night, Old age should burn and rave at close of day; Rage, rage against the dying of the light. Though wise men at their end know dark is right, Because their words had forked no lightning they Do not go gentle into that good night.

Looking forward to seeing Aaron Rodgers lead the Jets to a Super Bowl and win his 5th MVP.

Now the Rodgers haters can spend the Summer of Love praying for Gutekunst's Saviour to lead the Packers to the Promised Land. Or not.

And think of how the Packers could have signed Derek Carr!!!! Imagine that...

Just kidding. Go Pack Go.

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T7Steve's picture

March 15, 2023 at 03:07 pm

"Looking forward to seeing Aaron Rodgers lead the Jets to a Super Bowl and win his 5th MVP."

That would be perfect. It could happen. He's playing on a team that's mean and nasty now, with a coach that calls the Packers a bunch of weaklings or something like that.

Try not to be so hard on "us hopeful Packer fans".

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Harold Drake's picture

March 15, 2023 at 03:24 pm

I just wish that so many Packers fans had not been so anxious to see Rodgers go. His talent is off the scale and he made throws that only a handful of QBs have ever been able to make. And after all, it was not his decision and assessment that the Packers could replace Davantae Adams and MVS with Sammy Watkins and rookie WRs and still score points. Now the Rodgers exterminators will get to see the JLo offense in action. The horror, the horror...

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jurp's picture

March 15, 2023 at 05:23 pm

His talent WAS off the scale; he was average this past year, so not worth the money we paid him

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Leatherhead's picture

March 15, 2023 at 05:25 pm

The guy named Aaron Rodgers, who wears #12, had his worst season as a starter, finishing with a 91.1 passer rating, did not attend the offseason to work with his young receivers, and has been no better than a blocking dummy in his last two must-win games.

This is not the guy from 2011, or 2016, or even 2020. We're not replacing that guy. We're replacing a guy with a passer rating of 91.1

I hope you enjoy singing Rodgers praises over on the Jets forum.

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Harold Drake's picture

March 16, 2023 at 01:17 am

I hesitate to respond to the Luddite lunatic fringe of Packers fans because I doubt your ability to process basic facts, but since I rarely enter the comments asylum section as I have today which I did only because of this momentous shift in the franchise, I thought I would break my own rule:

1. Rodgers had no reliable receivers last season with the exception of Lazard (a clear No. 2 WR target) and Randall Cobb (slow and long past his prime);

2. The offensive line played poorly and gave Rodgers 0.5 seconds less on average to throw;

3. Rodgers suffered a broken thumb which clearly impacted his performance and despite that he led the Packers to five consecutive wins at the end of the season;

4. The offensive scheme developed by Matt LaFleur was terrible!

5. The only legitimate way to justify your assessment that Rodgers is finished is that he suffered some sort of catastrophic physical decline (apart from the mid-season broken thumb) which caused him to suddenly fall off a cliff from his 2021 MVP season to his underperforming 2022 season. There is no evidence of a catastrophic physical decline. Please see 1-4 above.

6. Brett Favre played poorly in his last few years with the Packers and after his so-so season with the Jets (during which he tore a tendon in his throwing arm) but then enjoyed the best statistical year of his career during his first season with the Vikings and would have gone on to the Super Bowl had it not been for a poor decision by the coach that preceded Favre's admittedly terrible interception.

7. So I now leave you to hate-fan in your insurrectional safe space.

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

March 16, 2023 at 12:35 pm

Take your whiny fanboy bs elsewhere. We dont kneel to anyone around here.

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SoCalJim's picture

March 16, 2023 at 03:36 pm

Harold, I realize that change is hard for some people, such as yourself; however, insulting others that are not so afflicted is purely trollish. The big problem with keeping Rodgers is financial, specifically with respect to his impact on the Packers cap for the next few years. This is the least bad year to move on from him. If your more of a Packers fan than you are a Rodgers fan, you should understand this. If not, then it’s a good thing you rarely post in the “comments asylum section.”

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barutanseijin's picture

March 16, 2023 at 06:01 pm

Nonsense. Favre’s last season with the Packers was far better than Rodgers’. For one thing, Favre actually made the playoffs . It’s one thing to their an interception in overtime of the NFC championship, quite another to throw multiple interceptions against the worst defense in the league and miss the playoffs entirely.

Rodgers has clearly aged. He is slower, weaker in the legs, more afraid of getting hit and all this affects his passing. This is why his passer rating plummeted to the aforementioned 91.1. Perhaps he can find a new elixir to restore his youth, but barring that he is finished as a top tier quarterback.

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Hematite's picture

March 16, 2023 at 03:23 pm

👍👍

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

March 15, 2023 at 03:40 pm

Yeah, I'm with you guys. I'd like to see Rodgers win an MVP and another Title. Particularly another Lombardi. That would quiet the haters; that would support the narrative that GB never build a good enough squad around him. We know he's got competitive fire; we know he wants to be where he is wanted (just like he did after the draft); we know his bounce-back years are some of the best he's played. Go Jets!

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T7Steve's picture

March 15, 2023 at 04:10 pm

We're not all haters that think it's time to move on. I particularly, think with the plans the coaching had last season, no one would have won, or could have won just as much.

I think they'll be a better team this year, but not because they let Rodgers go, but because they can start over and learn from the mistakes made last year, If they don't try to repeat them at least.

Strong lines on both sides of the ball works wonders for a football team and will make any QB look good.

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SoCalJim's picture

March 16, 2023 at 03:38 pm

You sure don’t sound like a Packers backer, WestCoastPackersBacker.

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BirdDogUni's picture

March 16, 2023 at 03:43 pm

Well, he's west coast, so...

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SoCalJim's picture

March 16, 2023 at 03:49 pm

I am too, but I grew up in God’s Country (WI) and I’ve been following the Packers since the late 1950s. Go Pack Go!

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

March 15, 2023 at 11:21 pm

Instead, I'd prefer to see Jordan Love & the Packers defeat Aaron Rodgers & the Jets in the Super Bowl either in 2023, or 2024. :)

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MainePackFan's picture

March 16, 2023 at 09:47 am

I like it Knock. On a last second bomb from Love to Watson. PERFECT!!!!!

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SoCalJim's picture

March 16, 2023 at 03:43 pm

That’s the spirit, Knock! Go Pack Go!

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Untylu1968's picture

March 15, 2023 at 09:46 pm

And you'll be able to hang your new #12 jets jersey next to your old #4 one.

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bottlefliper's picture

March 16, 2023 at 03:07 am

Do not hate him, feel sorry for him since 2012. He changed and aged not so good since then.

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Rebecca's picture

March 15, 2023 at 02:46 pm

Hallelujah! Aaron who?

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stockholder's picture

March 15, 2023 at 03:28 pm

Rodgers is the greatest QB ever.
And Lombardi was the greatest.

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zeke's picture

March 15, 2023 at 03:37 pm

He's up there, but he's not even the greatest Packer QB ever. That list begins and ends with Bart Starr.

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stockholder's picture

March 15, 2023 at 04:04 pm

Did you ever think thats why Gutey wanted
To replace Rodgers?

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zeke's picture

March 15, 2023 at 04:05 pm

No, I never thought that.

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croatpackfan's picture

March 15, 2023 at 04:16 pm

When you'll become true Packers fan, you'll understand what all of us are telling you.

Good luck future Jets fan!

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stockholder's picture

March 15, 2023 at 04:36 pm

Understand what.?
That you wanted Rodgers gone to
make sure Starr was the greatest ever.
Starr' glory came with a QB sneak
and the best Coach /GM ever.
Rodgers used his Arm.
Truth is; Love is speculation.
A cheap Trick.

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greengold's picture

March 15, 2023 at 04:41 pm

Come On Come On.

You're All Talk.

Surrender.

Goodnight.

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jurp's picture

March 15, 2023 at 05:15 pm

Auf Wiedersehn!

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jurp's picture

March 15, 2023 at 05:14 pm

"That you wanted Rodgers gone to
make sure Starr was the greatest ever.
Starr' glory came with a QB sneak"

Okay, this alone is a 7 on the Bonkers Scale (yes, the new one arrived in the mail earlier today - good timing!). Rodgers was never going to approach Starr's greatness whether he had retired a Packer or not - Starr was a leader of men, Rodgers was a not a leader of anyone since at least 2018. Most annoying Packer ever, probably.

"Love is speculation."
Hasn't that always been the case?

"cheap Trick"

Good late 70s-early 80s group. Didn't know you were a fan.

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zeke's picture

March 15, 2023 at 05:19 pm

"That you wanted Rodgers gone to make sure Starr was the greatest ever."

This is genius.

I'll have whatever flavor of horse paste Stockholder's having.

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 15, 2023 at 04:38 pm

History will expose the frauds holding office above the sledding Hill.

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stockholder's picture

March 15, 2023 at 06:33 pm

But their damaging the team for years to come.
Murphy went through 2.
Gutey had No business drafting Love.
He's got to go.

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 17, 2023 at 01:17 pm

He is a product of nepotism. No clear vision, or Strategy to WIN.

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Coldworld's picture

March 17, 2023 at 01:30 pm

Whose love child is he?

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cpabandit's picture

March 15, 2023 at 08:41 pm

He was not the greatest QB ever. He was the most talented QB ever. But he was also one of the stupidest QBs ever. Getting the ball snapped with a half second on the clock, not throwing the ball away and taking a sack, trying to complete a 20 yard pass on 3rd and 3, wasting time outs as the clock expire. Add to that he has no personal connections with most of his players other than Cobbs and Lewis. He's too diva for that.

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Untylu1968's picture

March 15, 2023 at 09:48 pm

He's the LeBron James of the NFL.

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bottlefliper's picture

March 16, 2023 at 03:13 am

Lombardi was the greatest person, with great beliefs and values. Not just in Sports. He was ahead of time and one of the greatest Americans you can find. Proud he was a Packer

AR not so much. The difference is 12 was way better on the field and bad off it. But even on the football field he was never that great. Main thing is, he never played his best when it was needed the most. And he never made anyone better around him. But he had arm talent, thats for sure.

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stockholder's picture

March 16, 2023 at 04:38 am

I look at how they kept TT disease silent.
MM and TT were not on the same page.
Gutey pushing him out the door.
Lack of weapons.
New coaches. And making him use FAs.
That nobody wanted.
He pointed to the All-pros leaving.
Reloading the offense.
And he put this franchise on his shoulders!
Starr and Favre didn't have to do that.
Dan Morino had the same trouble.
And this team is following the dolphins blue print.

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mbpacker's picture

March 15, 2023 at 05:13 pm

Watched Aaron on Pat's show. Life long Packer fan here and 12 will always be one of many of my fav players. However, Rodgers talked about not being a victim in all this, but what he said and acted sure sounded like he felt that way. Two years earlier, Aaron talked negatively about the Packers, wanted out and didn't want to play there again. Then he got the massive contract. I think things work both ways. I wish 12 well and will be rooting for him, but have to admit I am exhausted with all the drama so won't miss that. GPG!

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gpt999's picture

March 15, 2023 at 05:20 pm

The greed and stupidity on all THREE sides of this supposed trade is massive - from the Packers to the Jets and of course Mr Rodgers!

Murphy should NEVER had signed that stupid contract last season. It was a desperate attempt to keep his team supposedly in the hunt for another Super Bowl, all for the gratification his "legacy"? Given the absurd drama and financial crisis he has put this organization in, he certainly will have a "legacy" in July 2025 (which can't come soon enough). And, I suspect, not the legacy he wants.

The Jets think they can play the waiting game to get Rodgers for a "steal" because finances will pressure GB into a bad deal? Granted, Rodgers is almost 40. But he shown that he can still be at MVP at his relative age. So why quibble over 1 supposed extra draft choice versus having "their man" ready and willing to go? Stupid as well.

And Rodgers? Well, the nicest thing I can say is that its his time to go. He just threw his team of 18 years under the bus on the Pat McAffe show today. Maybe sitting on the bench in GB earning his $60Mil will make him feel satisfied? I doubt it. His diva persona and ego will not tolerate such an insult?

So maybe all these 3 parties should give their greed a bit of a rest, and well, compromise? With the millions and millions of dollars that these franchises and this QB possess and they can't compromise? Doesn't speak well for any of them.

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Leatherhead's picture

March 15, 2023 at 05:32 pm

The greed and stupidity on all THREE sides of this supposed trade is massive - from the Packers to the Jets and of course Mr Rodgers!

Huh?

massive greed and stupidity? Why? Because Rodgers wants to play? Because the Jets want him? Because the Packers want fair compensation? Where's the massive greed and stupidity?

As far as the "stupid contract", I'd encourage you to wait until the dust clears. My suspicion is that as a part of this trade, that contract will be reworked in a way that reduces what we owe Aaron Rodgers. Let's wait and see.

The Jets will cave. The Packers don't have to do anything until the season starts in September, and they don't have to exercise the $60 million option. The Jets fan base is ready for this. The Jets signed Rodgers former coach, his best buddy, and Jake from State Farm and it's clear they want Rodgers. And they'll get him. If they aren't stupid. But then again, this is a franchise that hasn't been to the Super Bowl since 1969 so yeah, they could screw this up.

If they do, then we'll see what happens. Rodgers is not going to be part of the Packers anymore. Maybe we'll get compensation and maybe we won't. At this point, I don't care as much as I did. But there's no reason to just give Rodgers away, either.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

March 15, 2023 at 11:24 pm

Bravo LH! Bravo!!!

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BirdDogUni's picture

March 15, 2023 at 05:46 pm

Too bad Gutey (Murphy) didn't learn the most important lesson from Ted Thompson!

"BETTER A YEAR TOO EARLY THAN A YEAR TOO LATE!"

“I would say this is debatable, but I'm debatably the best player in franchise history,” Rodgers said. “I'm in the conversation for sure. What's not debatable is I'm the longest-tenured Packer in history. You can debate the first part, obviously Bart (Starr), Brett (Favre), a number of names have been incredible. But you can't debate that anybody has been there longer than I have. And nobody has bled green and gold like me.” -- Aaron Rodgers via PMS

I have no problem with the above quote. People who never saw Bart or Brett play could easily argue AR12 is the best ever...

In My Book - Bart Starr, Aaron Rodgers, Don Hutson, and Brett Favre would be about 25th for me...

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Packers0808's picture

March 15, 2023 at 06:45 pm

Good ridance he showed his true colors not coming the OTAs last year. Selfish baby!

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stockholder's picture

March 15, 2023 at 06:48 pm

Benedict Arnold he wasn't.
There still in the front office.

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Packers0808's picture

March 15, 2023 at 07:18 pm

Baby Benedict Rodgers sounds about right.

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LambeauPlain's picture

March 15, 2023 at 07:10 pm

In negotiations, the side with the most time and information usually win.

Packers have until June 1. Jets? Very little time...they need to get a QB before the draft...but realistically need to decide on Rodgers sales price soon. They are risking losing him to another team or even retirement at any time.

Information? The Jets have no clue what teams have called the Pack about Rodgers. They also have no clue what those teams have offered, if anything. They need to consider if the Packers current sales price is reflective of other offers. They do not have this information. The Packers do.

Leverage advantage Packers.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

March 15, 2023 at 11:27 pm

Lambeau,
I agree and I think the longer the trade isn't consummated other teams are going to start inquiring to see what they might get AR for. I think the Jet's need to capitulate soon.

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GregC's picture

March 15, 2023 at 08:33 pm

It's funny that after all of the speculation, the situation right now is one that nobody predicted--at least not anyone that I know of. But I don't hold it against anyone. It's hard to predict the future. And it's even harder when the scenario is unlike any other we've seen in the NFL, or in any pro sport for that matter. I was surprised to read today that the Packers supposedly have the upper hand in negotiations with the Jets. I don't completely understand why, but I hope it's true. I won't feel good until the deal is done. I think the Jets are nuts for going after Rodgers, and I'm afraid they're going to get cold feet and call the whole thing off.

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LeotisHarris's picture

March 15, 2023 at 09:17 pm

Andrew Brandt on Twitter:

Aaron Rodgers, on his way out of Green Bay, just helped out the Packers franchise immensely. The Jets fan base is now at a fevered pitch, just waiting for management to do
this deal. Packers have no timetable, no need to hurry, can just wait for the Jets to cave to their price.

1:27 PM · Mar 15, 2023

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

March 15, 2023 at 11:29 pm

I read that earlier today LH and thought wow.....that really makes a lot of sense. Either that, or some other team is eventually going to start taking to the Packers to see what it would take.

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Fubared's picture

March 15, 2023 at 10:07 pm

I was thinking deviously the past few days about how Roggy was going to get even with the pack. Not being wanted kills him.
I guessed he would trash them and blame lack of talent for years thus one super bowl.
He surprised me at how pissed he is with them, by saying jets or retirement, he is willing to quit rather then ever play for the pack.
Plus now the jets know the pack aren't in a position to demand a lot and will have to settle for less, or deal fails, jets move on, pack get nothing in return, Rogers gets big pay day. Thanks for screwing your team.

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Galacticat's picture

March 15, 2023 at 10:12 pm

The Packers just need to stay patient and require appropriate compensation. Aaron’s ego plays to Green Bay’s advantage this time, because at some point doesn’t Rodgers himself get inpatient and start leaning on the Jets? “If I’m the great player you tell me I am, why aren’t you willing to pony up for me? Get it done!”

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greengold's picture

March 16, 2023 at 10:17 pm

Props.

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joefan's picture

March 16, 2023 at 02:40 am

The state of Packers fandom is in a weird place right now. There is no deal done, yet I see a lot of farewell posts or other disgruntled comments about Rodgers. I don't understand it.

Rodgers is the reason that most athletes give such boring canned interviews. If you actually share honest opinions, then people get mad. I don't think Rodgers said anything negative about the Packers. He wants to play for the Jets. So? The Packers don't want him anymore, so what's wrong that he would admit wanting to play for another team? There's nothing wrong it.

I don't see anyone getting this story right because the fanbase constructed too many incorrect narratives about the state of the team. Rodgers is a "diva" and causes too much "drama." Unless I missed something, the only off season where a rift existed between Rodgers and the Packers was in 2021, which was probably years in the making. However, to get Rodgers back for the season, all they had to do was trade for Randall Cobb which cost them nothing. They traded a 6th round pick which is the second lowest you can do. But because Rodgers "demanded" that they trade for Cobb and he didn't want to do OTAs that is somehow evidence of being a diva. That would be like an employee of a billion dollar business "demanding" that the bathrooms have toilet paper. What the Packers did for Rodgers was so easy and small that it wasn't any inconvenience. Other teams actually go to their QBs and asked them what players they feel would be a good fit. The Chiefs did that for Mahomes. The Packers never do that. So when Rodgers wants some input he's then branded a drama queen by fans and media. In the 2022 off season, Rodgers barely considered retirement and he got a huge contract from the Packers. Everyone freaked out about the sum but it's peanuts for this organization. The value that Rodgers brings to the Packers as well as the NFL is a lot higher. And even then the Packers gave it to him and Rodgers didn't even have to sign it. Despite everything that's happened Rodgers actually wanted to be a Packer even in 2022 when he must have known the team would be bad. But now after Rodgers had a bad season which logically followed after Gutenkunst destroyed the receiver position, suddenly Rodgers is washed up.

What's really happening with this team is due to the bad decisions made by Murphy and Gutenkunst. I don't think drafting Love was a good decision because of the huge opportunity costs when this team was a contender. However, they still had an opportunity to transition away from Rodgers in 2021 and 2022 when the demand was high and a trade would've been a lot easier. I think this trade is taking forever because Gutenkunst is trying to make up for those years. He's trying to trade 2023 Rodgers for a 2021 price. But at this point Rodgers is a year to year player and there's only one team with interest.

Notice how it's only the Packers that have problems moving on from a star QB. Every other recent star QB left their team smoothly. It's because the Packers can't make decisions and try to have everything both ways. They wanted to squeeze blood from a stone by having Rodgers as long as possible, and then insert Love whenever they wanted. But in order to get good compensation you have to trade guys when they have high value. You don't wait until the last second when there are no teams and after re-signing a player to a massive contract. It's all fixable but a lot messier than it should've been.

If they can't trade Rodgers before June 1, then I think that his cap is spread over two years. So $15 million in 2023 and $24 million in 2024 instead of $40 million in 2023. To me that is worse having a dead cap of $25 million next year because the $15 million is really no benefit for 2023. They're not going to sign anyone expensive regardless. I'm not sure if it would take that long but negotiations are already taking a while with this deal. Deals also fall apart so we could be in for some bad times if the Packers get stuck with Rodgers again.

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bottlefliper's picture

March 16, 2023 at 03:21 am

He was never honest. How did they call his low style. Passive agressive or something? Did you watch him since 2012-2013? You dont have to right so much stuff.
He did a lot of wrong stuff since then. On and off the field, but came away with it, because he had a great arm.
But even with all that, did he ever win something when it counts? With all that help he got? Are you kidding me? Take the SB season away and checkhis play off record. Must be one of the worst for a top10 QB in the NFL. Far from special. If this is about winning, he should be gone long time ago....
And if thats about team sports and values, he shold be gone long time ago........

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coolhand's picture

March 16, 2023 at 11:40 am

Well joefan, I see it this way. Last year AR hemmed and hawed about coming back and then wanted to be the highest paid QB in the league. So the Packers give him a huge deal, a mistake in my view, and after 1 year he claimed before he went into his 4 day mushroom retreat, he had seriously thought about retiring. Well how does that hit ya? He never seemed serious about playing after blowing the Niners playoff game at home. NOW, all of sudden, he WANTS to play for the Jets. He never said that last year about the Packers.

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 17, 2023 at 01:27 pm

Correct assessment. Remember Ted dragged his feet and ended up with a three pick for a guy who would later get the queens close enough to sniff another Heartbreaking defeat for a SB. No faith in the clown show @ 1265 Lombardi Ave. Six years Fail and now we are onto another Adventure. I like Love, but he and Rodgers share the same Agent. If he feels any Cornball Chatter down the road, he may decide to Leave on his own.

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bottlefliper's picture

March 16, 2023 at 03:25 am

Thank you Woody..........you are just what we thought you are and he is just fitting for you.
Win-win for all of us...............

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bottlefliper's picture

March 16, 2023 at 04:36 am

He just threw his team of 18 years under the bus on the Pat McAffe show today. Nice. But he so honest............just like he is one of the best play off QBs of all time.....

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DragonSilk's picture

March 16, 2023 at 07:26 am

"it's time for the Packers "to do the right thing."
"THAT'S WHAT THE MONEY'S FOR"

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dobber's picture

March 16, 2023 at 08:17 am

Maybe he should be asking why the Jets don't want him enough to pony up the compensation?

It takes 2 to tango.

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croatpackfan's picture

March 16, 2023 at 11:27 am

And waltz too!

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greengold's picture

March 16, 2023 at 03:22 pm

Maybe learn to fucking dance at the negotiating table? FFS.

We shouldn't give him away, and we're bargaining against a billionaire NYJ owner and an entire team of the most brilliant minds he has on staff or on call for just such an occasion as this one:

Making a trade with the Packers for their 4-Time MVP and Super Bowl Champion QB1 for as little as possible.

Do fans really think they don't throw coin at sports writers/personalities to carry Jets messaging? How badly do we want to be laughed at by NFL fans worldwide, while we're holding our junk in our hands?

My god...

croat, I'm done. Give me a call when this is over, if you would be so kind.... Cheers!

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croatpackfan's picture

March 16, 2023 at 04:01 pm

It will end with cut, not trade. So you have time till June, 2nd.

And ACR may, after all decide to retire. What the humiliation for him. Jets are not willing to trade their 1st pick for him. They do not think he is worth of the 1st round puck. Ha-ha.

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egbertsouse's picture

March 16, 2023 at 08:12 am

I haven’t read all the comments so I don’t know if this has been said already. I stopped reading when the flat earthers started to come out of their caves. I think if the Packers want to move on, they should finalize the freaking deal and move on. Stop haggling over a draft choice that Guts will probably use on a CB who can’t cover or is safety who can’t tackle. Or dollars that they will only use to overpay the latest one-year wonder that has a couple of good games. Do the deal, man! Let’s get on to the next step.

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kozmo's picture

March 16, 2023 at 09:40 am

This is crazy! If the Jets think that Rodgers is the guy who can get them to the promised land then make the deal right? So they have to give up a first. BIG DEAL! Think about all of the first round busts that have been in NY....Rodgers is a sure thing. Hes GREAT! So pay for him and win the big game.

And heres another thing I haven't heard talked about. Zach Wilson. Whats the value of this young qb watching and working with Aaron Rodgers for a couple of years ? And isn't Zach Wilson a first round bust? Damn right he is.

Give the Packers what they deserve....oh and they save a ton of dead cap money dont they if they wait until June 1st? Why in the world would the Packers blink?

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Lphill's picture

March 16, 2023 at 10:37 am

didn't Winston Churchill say that quote?

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

March 16, 2023 at 10:54 am

In listening to Rodgers on PM show complain about how the Packers are insensitive & part ways with veterans, & in listening to Nags share he mostly agrees with Rodgers in his podcast I find it somewhat humorous that these big ole nasty testosterone driven millionaires feel the need to be pampered when the Grim Reaper appears with bad news. No, I am not being insensitive but the GBP's are Corporate America, and how many of us have seen HR fire/lay off employees with families at a moments notice? Possibly even having security walk them out? Why do Rodgers and some of these players feel like they should be pampered and treated differently? Most are set financially for life unlike most employees with families whose job is terminated. This is life and how Corporate America operates, so why should it be done any differently with the GBP's?

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

March 16, 2023 at 02:22 pm

Rodgers has been lucky enough to live his entire adulthood up to this point without having to be part of the real world. This dude doesnt know the meaning of hard times.

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jurp's picture

March 16, 2023 at 09:40 pm

And unless he's an idiot with his money, never WILL know he meaning of hard times.

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Lofton82's picture

March 16, 2023 at 11:19 am

We all knew this day would come, and I'm not entirely surprised he's not wanted back as his arm was a bit off last season by his Godlike standards. I'll miss the guy, though with all the surliness and petulance, probably not as much as I missed Favre.

Is he the best ever? Probably. We've been spoilt though for sure. Long may it continue.

Here we are again wondering if the new guy can carry on the incredible standards set by his predecessor. I was sure Rodgers would be a success, I'm not so sure about Love but I hope so. I do wonder if we'll draft a QB in the first round as insurance, and / or a veteran in Free Agency.

Unfortunately, I can see this business with the Jets getting messy and awkward.

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Fubared's picture

March 16, 2023 at 09:26 pm

Glad to see him go, we got the best from him there's nothing left. A two pick this and next year would be very nice.

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Fubared's picture

March 16, 2023 at 11:26 am

Word leaked that indeed the Packers want a first round pick and then some. People on the sports blogs are saying they are crazy. IMO I say why wouldn't you ask for the moon. Sense tells me the brass pretty much know they aren't going to get a one for a 40 year old QB who had a so so year.
I think if they could eck out a 2 pick and another 2 or three next year, that's a pretty good haul for someone you don't want anymore.
I still say the Jets have the advantage now, even though the pack can play a waiting game it could blow up in their face if the Jets just say screw it, hey's just not worth the hassle, thanks but no thanks.

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

March 16, 2023 at 02:20 pm

I would accept anything less than the #13 overall pick and Jermaine Johnson.

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bottlefliper's picture

March 16, 2023 at 11:47 am

Rodgers did his usual thing where he said he wasn’t a victim in this saga while acting like a victim; expressed his dismay with how Green Bay has handled everything while saying he has no problems with how Green Bay handled everything; and, of course, went after the media.
The only play from Rodgers’s playbook is to rip the media and discredit the media. Or his teammates or everyone else. Its never him. He is a Trump like guy, does the same weak stuff all the time. Thats all he is and ever was. Glad to see him never ever again.

And just like the crazy maniacs he thinks he is smart and crazy that he finds guys who believe him. Just like losers like Musk. Money makes up for everything with some people.
AR is like all of his kind, a weak man idea frrom a strong man and a dumb mans idea from a smart man. Just strange

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Fubared's picture

March 16, 2023 at 02:54 pm

Keep this in mind, the jets WANT but dont NEED Rodgers.Thus they can as a safety net, bundle picks and take a QB in the early draft and say screw it. We aren't giving our future away for a 40 year old. Pack would be lucky to get a two this year and next or three next. Take it.

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stormin's picture

March 16, 2023 at 04:09 pm

The Bears, Lions and Vqueens are all so giddy, they now finally have a level playing field !

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MooPack's picture

March 16, 2023 at 06:19 pm

Bears signed TE Tonyan to 1 year deal. Probably why Packers felt need to re-sign TE Tyler Davis. Packers are most likely going to double dip on the TE position this year. Maybe a third late.

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Fubared's picture

March 16, 2023 at 09:23 pm

Cowherd skewered Rodgers over one thing today. His shock coming out of his dark cave to learn the pack were moving on. I agree with him, you tell your team your 90% leaning towards retirement, go into your dark sabatcle and expect the pack to have sat and done nothing thinking your leaving? That is not realistic. It's naive and petty.
The pack org put up with wait on me bull shit last year, this year they said no, we're done here. You had your time, we're moving on.

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bottlefliper's picture

March 17, 2023 at 01:59 am

And another complete crazy take is: Who is any of that "the media", just because AR tries to blame them, like he always does???? That hip today, even it makes no sense to blame someone and AR always tries to blame someone who gets fire anymay, all the time. So its a easy scapegoat.
How loa can you go Rodgers? Its always the same you do. Even "the media" was nearly right about everything in your case, you just say the opposite.
"The bad media is so bad, because they say what they should, the truth. And me, poor AR are the victime again. Its so hard for me, even if im the smartest guy on earth."
This is the playbook from the weak, unmoralic in our country. Trump, Musk, you name it, doing the same way. Its kind of hip and easy. The media is a popular aim, even if they get it right like in Rodgers case. Crazy times where the good one gets blamed..........and some guy on this site jump on it.
Yeah, AR is so honest and the bad media makes him look bad..........because they tell the truth.

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Ferrari-Driver's picture

March 17, 2023 at 10:34 am

The Jets are reluctant to give up a first round draft choice for Rodgers? Seems like peanuts to me. I and a bunch of old timers had to live through the worst trade in NFL history. In 1974 Dan Devine traded for John Hadl who was riding the bench in San Diego and essentially a shell of himself. while he was truly a great quarterback at one time, that was no longer the case. The Packers gave San Diego a first and second round draft choices two years in a row and another draft choice which I can't recall, but I think it was a third rounder for Hadl.

I feel that put Bart Starr behind the eight ball when he took over as our head coach and that was a shame.

All I can say is "Woody, come on and fork over that #13 and more to get a quarterback who may truly deliver the goods for you". It certainly seems like a good deal to us Packer fans who were taken to the cleaners almost a half century ago, but it still burns in our minds.

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