Rodgers: Doubs Will Be Held to a Higher Standard

Fourth round pick has already earned his QB's confidence.

Christian Watson gets to be a rookie this year.  So does Samori Toure.  As first year players, only so much will be expected of them.  They will be integrated slowly and gradually into the offense, if they play much at all.  Romeo Doubs, however, will not be regarded as a rookie.  He will play immediately and will be expected to perform like a veteran. 

How do I know this?  No, I didn’t have a private conversation with Matt LaFleur.  I was merely listening closely to the comments of someone who would be in a position to know.  If anybody has an inside track on how the young receivers will be used this season, it’s quarterback Aaron Rodgers.  He’s been throwing to them for four weeks.  He has a pretty good read on Green Bay’s second, fourth, and seventh round draft picks.   

This is what he says about Watson and Toure:  “I think you have to be real about the expectations with all of those guys, and at the same time hold them to a standard according to what they’re capable of at this time.” 

Now listen to what he says about Doubs:  “Doubs has done a lot of really nice things.  I think the standard for him is not going to be the normal one we’ve had here for rookies in the past, especially in the last four or five years.  He’s going to be expected to play, based on his performance so far in camp.  So we’ve got to hold him to a standard that he is capable of reaching.” 

If you’re a receiver for the Green Bay Packers, you’re not going to make your mark unless number twelve throws the ball to you.  And number twelve is not going to throw the ball to you unless you have won his confidence.  Just ask Allen Lazard, or Marquez Valdes-Scantling, or even Randall Cobb.  It took years before Rodgers felt good enough about them to make them targets on a regular basis.  But it appears the fourth round pick out of Nevada has already reached some sort of a comfort level with his future Hall of Fame quarterback. 

“He cares about it.  He’s a great kid”, spouts Rodgers.  “He’s made some instinctual plays that you can’t really coach.”  One of the things QB12 likes the most about Doubs is his ability to sense how to ad-lib a route when he is not immediately open.  He referred to one play in the preseason game against New Orleans where Romeo ran his called route, and a defender was right there to make a play on the ball.  “Instead of drifting on it and letting the guy make the play, he comes hard back to the ball with strong hands.  You like seeing those plays.  It gives you confidence.  It makes you confident he might be able to do some things that are not on the paper.” 

In the three preseason contests, Doubs caught a total of eight passes for 82 yards and two scores.  His leaping grab in the end zone on a fade against New Orleans was a highlight reel catch.  He was not, however, the leading receiver in the preseason.  Toure actually caught nine balls for 125 yards, and had, by far, the best yards per catch average of 13.9.  Watson missed a great deal of camp as he nursed a knee injury, but he’s been back since August 14, and probably could have played in the final preseason game, but the coaching staff elected to play it safe and hold him out.  

Rodgers is certainly not down on Watson, but does admit the former North Dakota State star is a bit behind.  “He’s got a different skill set.  He’s a big body who can run.  We’ve just got to get him to be a little more consistent at tracking the ball down the field.”  One quality Rodgers noticed is how quickly Watson learns from his mistakes, and how he is smart enough to be a quick study.  “The other day, I told him what to do in the huddle, and it was something he had never done before, and he went out and did it perfect, and it’s those little things like that which help to gain that confidence and that trust.” 

The big news early this week will be the roster cuts and the make-up of the practice squad.  But after that, the Packers must get down to the business of forming a game plan against the Minnesota Vikings at their place, always a tough assignment, on opening day.  In the process, they will decide which receivers are ready to play, and which will have to watch, at least for now.  I’m betting Aaron Rodgers will have a lot to say about who plays right away.  And judging by his remarks, look for Romeo Doubs to play an important role early and often. 

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Ken Lass is a former Green Bay television sports anchor and 43 year media veteran, a lifelong Packers fan, and a shareholder.

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porupack's picture

August 29, 2022 at 06:35 am

All points concise and well said. The Rodger's comment must have bent the ears in the locker room, especially since theWR group has been the primary subject of the offseason, more even than the Bahk is or isn't story. No doubt puts pressure on all 3 rookies, however.... to emphasize a different expectation for Doubs vs the other 2. Wow. I'll bet that bait will stick in their minds for a couple months, and see who responds, and how. Thanks for priming the final weeks of offseason....and thanks equally to the non-KenLass contributors for the great offseason feed. Love this site.

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RCPackerFan's picture

August 29, 2022 at 07:05 am

To start the year I think we will see Doubs getting more snaps then Watson. Doubs has been there the whole camp and has proved that he deserves a lot of playing time. Watson has missed a lot and hasn't played in any preseason games. That being said I think they are going to find ways to get Watson involved. With his size/speed combination I would not be surprised if they have a few packages to try and get him the ball. Whether it would be on jet sweeps, bubble screens, or specific plays, I think they will find ways to get him involved.

Doubs though I think will see a quite a few balls going his way early. Don't be surprised if he is our first deep threat WR. Kind of filling the void of MVS. He has shown all preseason/training camp that he can consistently beat CB's on the go route. But the thing about Doubs is he isn't just a deep threat. He attacks the ball. That TD in the endzone shows that. He fights for the ball. That part will make Rodgers look his way more. I do think we can hold Doubs to a higher standard. He has proved that he is ready to contribute right away. That doesn't mean he won't make mistakes. But, he has shown that he can play with the big boys.

With all the young WR's there will be a learning curve for them. They will make mistakes. But I believe they will be a key part of our offense.

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Spock's picture

August 29, 2022 at 07:14 am

Kind of reminds me of when Greg Jennings came in as a rookie; already he was running exact routes and balling out. Exciting to hear the QB12 already feels comfortable with Doubs!

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lou's picture

August 29, 2022 at 11:04 am

Jenning's really beat the curve on when a young WR is a factor in his rookie year, as good as Jordy Nelson and James Jones were it took them a couple of seasons. It's too bad Jenning's has bad mouthed both the team and state of WI after going to the Vikings and still doing it as a broad caster, totally class less individual but a key to the Super Bowl win.

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

August 29, 2022 at 11:52 am

James Jones had close to 700 yards as a rookie!

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 29, 2022 at 02:12 pm

Had a better catch rate and yards per catch too.

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jont's picture

August 29, 2022 at 02:46 pm

Spock, where'd you get the stick? My knee is getting to the point where I might need one, and the stick in your pic looks nice.

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Spock's picture

September 02, 2022 at 07:29 am

Made it myself (sort of). Took a regular bent wood stick, painted it black, and down loaded Packer logos. Hand filed six inch markings all the way around and then hand filed the 1 inch marks. Experimented with different paints to get the Packer green and gold colors. Then read up on how to apply the leather. So, I "carry the G" but can also measure stuff with it!

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NickPerry's picture

August 29, 2022 at 07:15 am

Personally, I think it's great Doubs play has lifted him to being held to a different standard. But I also want to see it in the REGULAR season, against players who won't be selling insurance come September 11th. Doubs has been fortunate to be able to go against the likes of Alexander, Stokes, and Douglas all through TC and practice. As Alexander has stated, "Iron sharpens iron" and I can't think of a better school for Doubs, Watson, and/or Toure to go to day in and day out than the Packers secondary.

Hopefully, Rodgers is still throwing him (and others) the ball when they drop a sure TD or 1st down. It's GOING to happen. From what I've seen Doubs will regroup and be ready for the next play. WILL Aaron Rodgers still throw him the ball is really the question?

13 more days people...I can't wait!!

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PackyCheese500's picture

August 29, 2022 at 07:16 am

Who thinks the Packers should explore trading for Raiders TE Darren Waller? There’s been some rumors about it lately, as he’s fired his previous agent and hired Rosenhaus.

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dobber's picture

August 29, 2022 at 07:41 am

Yeah, they'll have to pay him. He's missed most of camp with vague "injuries". Doesn't sound like a guy the Packers need.

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RCPackerFan's picture

August 29, 2022 at 07:42 am

Also we are getting Tonyan back. He will contribute more this year then Waller would, just based on his connection with Rodgers.

Don't be surprised if Tonyan is a big weapon for us this year, (when he comes back fully).

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PackyCheese500's picture

August 29, 2022 at 07:56 am

I’d have to agree with you guys; he’s probably an unnecessary luxury and doesn’t make much sense. Still, it’s fun to think about

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RCPackerFan's picture

August 29, 2022 at 08:23 am

Always fun to thinking about those moves!

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murf7777's picture

August 29, 2022 at 07:59 am

RC, Tonyan is good, but Waller is next level. He’s highly athletic and a WR in a TE’s body. I would be concerned about his soft tissue injury, but the Packers are going all in so I think taking a risk on him is worth it.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 30, 2022 at 03:27 am

I don't disagree, though I think if GB is going to spend money is should be on an OLB or safety. That said, another TE would be fun. We are assuming that Tonyan is back soon, and that seems plausible, but even the Packers have to wait to see if his knee responds well to the grind such that he can practice multiple days in a row.

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BradHTX's picture

August 29, 2022 at 07:46 am

“Drew Rosenhaus” and “bargain contract” have never been used in the same sentence. The Packers are already in salary cap hell, and Waller wants a raise from the $7M he is due this season.

He’s 30, missed six games last season, and has missed part of this year’s camp with injuries. Hard pass.

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PackyCheese500's picture

August 29, 2022 at 07:55 am

I’d have to agree with you; he’s probably an unnecessary luxury. Still, it’s fun to think about.

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dobber's picture

August 29, 2022 at 09:16 am

Not to mention what it would take to get him...an article this morning points to a 2nd round pick. No thanks.

https://zonecoverage.com/2022/packers/did-darren-waller-to-the-packers-j...

It should be noted that there's been nothing substantiated on this front since Nags' report predraft.

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murf7777's picture

August 29, 2022 at 10:34 am

Dobber, he is worth a 2nd round pick to give Rodgers a 6’6, 240 lbs, who ran a 4.46 at the combine. He is very athletic as well. Those guys don’t grow on trees. He would quickly go as Rodgers go to man. Since he was on my fantasy team last year I spent a lot of time watching his play and it is high level.

I hate to say it but we are looking at a 2 year window to win the SB, after that we will lose many good players due to salary cap as all the extended contracts comes in play.

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dobber's picture

August 29, 2022 at 11:29 am

He's not a TE. He's a jumbo WR...and not much of a blocker. If the Packers weren't buying on WRs in the FA/trade market, then why would they buy on Waller?

Again...they'd have to promise him a fat, new contract, or he's unlikely to be a happy locker room presence (as indicated by his missing time in this camp with nebulous, soft tissue injuries). There's nothing of substance out there since Nags' report in March of any talks. Fine to speculate, sure, but I'd be really surprised if anything like this happened.

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murf7777's picture

August 29, 2022 at 11:57 am

I’d be surprised as well, but on the other hand I wouldn’t be surprised if they did the deal. Keep in mind, he is a proven commodity with play as one of the best TE’s. We have other TE’s to block, they will play two TE sets a lot, especially if they have a talent like him. I would think he has a couple of really good years yet.

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

August 29, 2022 at 12:24 pm

Maybe he wants a title. Maybe he goes for a slightly shorter contract. He was originally going to be part of the Davante Adams trade right?

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murf7777's picture

August 29, 2022 at 07:52 am

Waller is a difference maker and would be a great addition. Not sure Packers can afford him, but if they can I’m hoping they make it work. You put Waller with Rodgers, oh my, watch out this would be a dynamic offense.

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PackyCheese500's picture

August 29, 2022 at 08:32 am

They could afford him if they give the Raiders Lowry. Don’t know if it’s the best, but fun to think about. You do make a good point though.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

August 29, 2022 at 12:21 pm

Tonyan is a difference maker with best hands on team. Just throw him the ball! We don't need to trade for another TE!

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murf7777's picture

August 29, 2022 at 02:31 pm

Knock, we agree alot, but on this one I have to dispute. Tonyan is a good player, not a difference maker in the sense of regular pro-bowls type play. I love Tonyan, he's not a pro-bowl type player. Waller is a 100 catch, pro-bowl type play, If you can upgrade to 100 catches a game vs 50, I'd take it, especially right now when Rodgers could use such a play maker. Not to mention that Tonyan is also coming off an ACL which we have no idea if he will be the same player.

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Coldworld's picture

August 29, 2022 at 08:20 am

That would probably force us to trade Lowry.

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PackyCheese500's picture

August 29, 2022 at 08:30 am

That’s what I was thinking; that, in my opinion, is the only way I could see him leaving

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murf7777's picture

August 29, 2022 at 10:27 am

I’d be all for that CW. We have the depth on the DL, but getting a weapon like Waller would really help the offense.

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Coldworld's picture

August 29, 2022 at 10:31 am

I don’t know enough about Waller beyond his stats, but I thought that Lowry is a necessary part of this discussion.

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murf7777's picture

August 29, 2022 at 10:47 am

Take a look at his play, in 2020 him and Kelce were the two best TE’s. He did have some injuries last year that affected his play so there is some risk, but I think worth the gamble giving the state of the Packers SC situation. He’s Uber athletic for a TE.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

August 29, 2022 at 12:22 pm

Don't want to trade Lowry (gets a bad rap), but Heflin, and/or Slayton would be fine.

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PatrickGB's picture

August 29, 2022 at 08:43 am

There is no doubt about his skills. Yet he has become a distraction on one team because of his behavior and wants more money. The Packers generally avoid such players.

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murf7777's picture

August 29, 2022 at 12:06 pm

That is fairly normal when he is currently grossly underpaid as the 17th TE. Since 2019 & 2020 he averaged 100 catches and 1200 yards per year. Last year he fought thru injuries, missed games and still had 55. He has two years left on a contract paying him 7M per. I would think they could up his ante to 12-14 M and keep him a happy camper. He would open up the playing field for other pass catchers as well. Fingers crossed, but it’s probably a pipe dream.

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jannes bjornson's picture

August 29, 2022 at 04:24 pm

Trade for the guy and extend him. Tonyan's deal will be up at season's end. It could resemble a Keith Jackson-Chumura combo, keep Deguara as a H back.

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LambeauPlain's picture

August 29, 2022 at 10:58 am

Sounds like a Marty Bennett Redux...

If Tonyan is ready, I truly look forward to how the TE group is employed. Deguara and Tonyan in "12 personnel" should be ready to roll in some creative run/pass plays.

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murf7777's picture

August 29, 2022 at 11:58 am

Marty was never the TE that Waller is….apples to oranges.

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LambeauPlain's picture

August 29, 2022 at 01:57 pm

I was comparing the "malcontent" attitude. That seems like Red Delicious to McIntosh?

Bennett did have some very big games during his hot and cold career, however.

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murf7777's picture

August 29, 2022 at 02:27 pm

Ok that makes more sense. But I still think there is a difference, it's not uncommon for a player who is grossly underpaid to want more money. It's business and gets played out a lot this way. I don't think that makes him a "problem child".

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jont's picture

August 29, 2022 at 02:51 pm

It would nice to have a TE with the size and speed of a Jermichael Finley again. A trade, though, would be a surprise and a headline maker.

That said, given Gute's record I am sure he's had a conversation about it. Whether he's truly interested or not I couldn't say, but I am convinced he does the GM work diligently and has at least checked into it.

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LeotisHarris's picture

August 29, 2022 at 03:38 pm

I don't know who thinks that, but I'm pretty sure we're just a little over the blink-of-an-eye from the Land of We Like Our Guys.

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jannes bjornson's picture

August 29, 2022 at 03:41 pm

Thank you, Ted...

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dobber's picture

August 29, 2022 at 07:43 am

The pecking order has been established by who suited up and who didn't in preseason. For a team talking about running more, and that likes 2-TE sets more than most teams, I just don't think Doubs will be on the field more than about 15 snaps per game early on. That might be a significant load for a rookie, and he is positioned to see those snaps go up if there's an injury ahead of him.

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Coldworld's picture

August 29, 2022 at 08:18 am

Maybe, but I don’t see Cobb taking a huge number of snaps and I am not sure we have Tonyan to start out and he may not be himself immediately. I think Doubs will be used less sparingly out of necessity.

These comments are a couple of weeks old, but I think it’s clear that Doubs is a full part of the “starting” game day group. I think it alludes to Doubs being a full route tree guy not a situational piece. We forget MVS had a good rookie year with Rodgers but he really did that on a narrow route tree. I think that’s what Ridgers means to distinguish in part. Doubs’ snaps came to resemble Walkers if one looks at that as a guide.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 29, 2022 at 08:31 pm

I’ve thought all along that Cobb would play the first couple of games, then get put on the injured list so we could activate a guy off the PS.

Last year, Adams, Lazard, and MVS caught the large majority of passes for WRs. At 66 plays in a game, there’s about 170 snaps for the WR unit. Lazard and Watkins will combine for over 100 because they’re the veteran starters. The remaining 60 or so will be split among 3 active WRs, so that’s about 20 snaps each on average. Or split them between two guys and they’ll get 30 snaps each.

Of course, almost half of those plays will be runs or short passes to the back.

So they’ll be on the field for 15 pass plays, and they’ll get 3 or 4 targets for maybe 2 or 3 catches. That’s assuming they’re healthy enough to play.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

August 29, 2022 at 12:26 pm

Doubs will have either the #1 or #2 production this year at WR.

Crazy? Maybe but think Amari will out produce Cobb by time year is over. Anymore Cobb is good for 300 to 400 yards strictly in the slot. Would prefer LF alternate them saving Cobb for later in year.

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jannes bjornson's picture

August 29, 2022 at 03:39 pm

Watson and Doubs have a high probability of starting along with Lazard by the end of the season. Watkins and Cobb may be in sick bay.

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 29, 2022 at 02:30 pm

They played 694 snaps with 3 WRs last year and 47 snaps with 4, so roughly 42 a game. I think we'll see a fairly even split between Cobb and Doubs to start the season. Rodgers is going to want Cobb on the field on 3rd down and probably in the red zone.

A lot depends on if Watkins can still beat CBs deep occasionally. If not they'll need to find ways to get Doubs' and Watson on the field.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 29, 2022 at 08:37 pm

I think that works out to about 175 snaps each game for the WR unit.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 29, 2022 at 09:12 am

Eight catches, four drops, one turnover. I think we should crown him.

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Spawny's picture

August 29, 2022 at 10:05 am

As opposed to one route by MVS, the go route. Doubs will not have as many drops as MVS because he learns from his mistakes and is clearly a more complete receiver.

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murf7777's picture

August 29, 2022 at 12:40 pm

Kind of hard to determine whether he learns from his mistakes when they haven't played a game yet. I hope your right thou as he looks really good. I'm sure he will have his share of mistakes thou and that isn't uncommon for a rookie.

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Coldworld's picture

August 29, 2022 at 10:36 am

I agree, keep Toure because he had less drops per target than any of them and more yards. Doubs just can’t make plays reliably and so saw no snaps. It’s a good job we have Rodgers to carry that load. While we are at it, let’s start Etling. He’s so much more mobile than the old guy. Don’t need Hanson and Newman to protect him as much.

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LambeauPlain's picture

August 29, 2022 at 11:08 am

Snicker, snicker...

I did like Romeo's college resume very much...reminds me of Jennings coming to the Pack...caught a ton, scored a lot, ran many routes, did it consistently with good size and speed. Like Greg, Romeo also turned heads in his first camp. Practice performance is as important as preseason game stats.

I am so amazed he lasted to the 4th round.

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Packers0808's picture

August 29, 2022 at 10:40 am

Too much assessed on preseason or these guys. Real season tells the real story on their progress!

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

August 29, 2022 at 12:29 pm

But Doubs has done it all camp against Packer starters and #2's.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 29, 2022 at 03:13 pm

Who aren’t going to knock the snot out of him, because he’s a teammate and it’s preseason.

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murf7777's picture

August 29, 2022 at 12:41 pm

You're right on, we've had many pre-season marvels that didn't pan out to much. Do I really have to name names....:)

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Leatherhead's picture

August 29, 2022 at 03:11 pm

Sssssshhhhhh. A year ago, rookie Amari Rodgers, in preseason, caught 13 balls in 16 targets, with no drops or turnovers.

Every single personnel department in the league looked at everything Doubs did in college. They talked with his coaches. They watched him in slow mo. They might have interviewed him, or brought him in on a visit, or a workout.

Then, every single one…all 32…decided not to take him on Day One. Or the second round. Or the third. Does anybody ever ask themselves why ? I feel like I’m in a room observing a team in surgery performing complicated surgery and the people in the gallery are telling them they’re all wrong.

In Toures case, he lasted until the 7th because he can only do 7 reps on the bench. That is NFL weak, and a stronger corner is going to push him around. If he’d done 25 reps, he goes a lot earlier. The knock on Doubs before the draft was that questionable hands would keep him from going earlier, and we’ve seen that.

But let’s go ahead and crown him.

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LeotisHarris's picture

August 29, 2022 at 03:47 pm

What if we went with a tiara for the moment? Hold off on the full-blown crown? At this point, Doubs might be akin to the world's tallest dwarf, but if we allll believe...

C'mon, Leatherhead, get on the bus!

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 29, 2022 at 04:27 pm

Hold on to that dream you have that where a player is drafted counts towards how good he'll be.

Doubs>>>Rodgers, get used to it.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 29, 2022 at 08:39 pm

Then you should trade away your first round pick for extra Day 3 choices, right? I admire your egalitarianism, even though it’s misplaced..

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 29, 2022 at 10:14 pm

Obviously 1st and 2nd round picks get a lot more money in signing bonuses so that plays a factor in keeping or cutting them even if they haven't proved they should rostered. You however have spent the last month spouting the delusion there's a big difference between 3rd and 4th round picks even though it obvious the Packers like the 4th rounder. All one has to do is look at their usage early in the preseason games.

I said before TC that I wouldn't be surprised if Doubs ends up the 3rd most productive this year and have seen absolutely nothing to change my mind. If anything I'd say 2nd most productive now if Watkins misses any length of time. If Rodgers makes the team he'll probably be 6th.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 30, 2022 at 01:13 pm

Not a big difference, just a difference. Glad to see you finally agree. And yes, the organization likes Doubs, and they also like Amari Rodgers. If you think usage is preseason means squat then we disagree. Last year, as a rookie, Rodgers caught 13 balls in 16 targets in preseason. Then he got targeted 8 times in the regular season. I don’t think your theory explains that. I think that coaches like to look at the rookies in preseason.

Your prediction for Doubs , and Rodgers, is well documented. My position is that you have overestimated Doubs production, and underestimated Rodgers. We shall see.

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13TimeChamps's picture

August 29, 2022 at 10:54 pm

Nobody is suggesting keeping day 3 picks over 1st rounders. Nice try though. But keeping 3rd rounders over 4th rounders just because they were picked a round earlier is beyond ridiculous.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 30, 2022 at 01:37 pm

It’s not “just because “. Those are your words, and Chestys, not mine. I said it’s a factor. And I’ve never said we shouldn’t keep Doubs. Please read more carefully.

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13TimeChamps's picture

August 29, 2022 at 09:44 pm

Spriggs/2nd...or Taucher/7th
Spriggs/2nd...or Linsley/5th
Spriggs/2nd...or Tretter/4th
Spriggs/2nd...or Sitton/4th
Spriggs/2nd...Bahk/4th

Unless you've invested a lot of money into a 1st rounder, who gives a sh*t where you're drafted? Once the draft is over, let the talent dictate who stays and who plays. If Amari was drafted in the 6th round, would we be having this discussion? Players are over drafted all the time. I'd prefer both Doubs and Toure over Rodgers. It has nothing to do where they were drafted.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 30, 2022 at 01:46 pm

So that’s why we got rid of Spriggs after one year. Oh, wait….we didn’t. He was given multiple opportunities, because thats what you do if you’re an organization that believes in developing young players.

If Amari had been drafted in the sixth round, made the team, stayed healthy all season, was our punt and kic returner who did not turn it over………yeah, he’d still be ahead of a guy who has never taken a single snap in an NFL game.

Toure is a weakling who isn’t going to be very successful against strong men until he gets stronger. Maybe that’ll be next year. I’m hoping we can get him on our practice squad and let him spend a year in the weight room with a trainer and a nutritionist.

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murf7777's picture

August 29, 2022 at 04:29 pm

Just like Summers was crowned 3-4 years ago. I argued he struggled to tackle David Montgomery and told folks to just go look at the tape of Iowa State game. I was down voted. ....Oh my, you would think he was the next best thing to sliced bread.

Every team have multiple late round picks or UDFA that are pre-season wonders that don't pan out. Most need to be developed on the PS to see if they can progress.

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 29, 2022 at 05:32 pm

You're comparing Summers to Doubs'? 🤔

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Coldworld's picture

August 29, 2022 at 06:46 pm

Who crowned Summers? We all thought he was an athletic guy who never put it together. A high ceiling low floor type who was worth a late pick roll of the dice. I don’t recall him changing that in the field either

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LeotisHarris's picture

August 29, 2022 at 07:40 pm

I like the "high ceiling - low floor" description, CW. If Summers were on a fast food menu, he's be an extra medium.

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LeotisHarris's picture

August 29, 2022 at 07:40 pm

I like the "high ceiling - low floor" description, CW. If Summers were on a fast food menu, he's be an extra medium.

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baldski's picture

August 29, 2022 at 08:10 pm

Leather: Where was Arod drafted again? Future MVP 3 times? Was it 24th or 26th? Why did everybody pass on him?

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Leatherhead's picture

August 29, 2022 at 09:05 pm

A fair question.

IIRC, Rodgers and Alex Smith were considered the two top QBs in the 2005 draft, and SF had the first pick and they chose Smith. The night before, on the NFL Network, Mike Mayock said “Rodgers could fall all the way to Green Bay”. And he did.

Rodgers was the second QB taken in the draft. 23 teams passed on him because they weren’t in the market for a QB. Minnesota passed on him twice🤩🤩. It’s not like he wasnt a highly regarded first round pick, but other teams had higher priority needs (they thought).

First round draft choices are more valuable than fourth round. Why do you think that is?

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 29, 2022 at 10:17 pm

Now do Brady.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 30, 2022 at 12:34 am

Why don’t you trade your first and second round picks for a bunch of 6th round picks then? I mean, a sixth round pick is just as valuable as a first round pick to you. Not to me.

Any player in the draft might be a gem., but these professionals do a pretty good job of talent evaluation, and that’s why the better talent goes earlier in the draft.

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 30, 2022 at 07:32 am

They do a pretty good job of talent evaluation? Wolf said if you hot on a third of the players on a draft it was a really good one.

So trading 1st rounders for 6ths is comparable to a 3rd rounder being worth more than 4th when one is a slot only WR and the other has lined up all over? Holy strawman.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 30, 2022 at 09:45 am

You are the king of strawmen. You have a huge mancrush on Doubs….I get that. So you can’t/don’t/won’t understand that a Day 3 rookie starts training camp behind a Day 2 guy with a year in the system.

IF Doubs can stay healthy and do his job, he has a chance to move up. His QB has already served notice that Doubs needs to raise his game and that the bar is higher for Doubs.

We’re going to see real soon, LL. I’m hoping Doubs has a real good season. But I’m also hoping the guys in front of him have good seasons.

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PhantomII's picture

August 29, 2022 at 09:17 pm

He came across as arrogant....even pompous. Apparently the powers that be thought he'd butt heads...Be a know it all...Not follow coaches direction.

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Spawny's picture

August 29, 2022 at 01:04 pm

The bright lights of the regular season have blinded a few rookies in the past. Amari Rodgers needed retinal surgery after last year. Doubs, Touri and Watson seem unflappable but, you never know. I don't see Amari beating out any of the three rookies. All three rookies can play the slot.

The laundry department will appreciate the three rookies. Last year every time Amari fielded or didn't field a punt, the laundry personnel had to clean his trousers. Send Amari with Lowry and get Waller.

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Fubared's picture

August 29, 2022 at 01:02 pm

I kind of like to read between the lines a lot an when I hear, we have expectations this guy will play more like a vet and then hear, the guy has all the tools but.................... It says a hell of a lot.
For me we drafted the wrong guy at the 3 spot. Doubs should have gone first and Watson second.
I know Watson missed a lot of time but he is also from Alice and Wonderland College of Nowhere. Now he is in the real world and its kind of fuzzy. He better be as smart and as fast a learned as Rodgers thinks he is or we may be talking bust o matic. You cant spend three years developing someone when there are a ton of guys out there who can play now. Receivers are a plenty.

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PhantomII's picture

August 30, 2022 at 06:01 am

Watson took over the senior Bowl and destroyed every CB he lined up against. Kid has been nursing a sore knee after a scope. He did the same thing to everyone at the senior bowl as he did to others in ND games. Wants to be great and will be. He has RB vision. When he gets a crease he's gone. IF he stays healthy we will have a great WR who gets from zero to full speed like a smaller guy and appears to have long speed also...Gets faster the longer he runs like Jordy did. The problem will be AR under throwing him like he did MVS.

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stockholder's picture

August 29, 2022 at 01:12 pm

I still think Toure could outplay everyone from the slot. He did lead the Big 10. Wasn't disciplined. And is a Deep threat. I thought thats what this club needed.

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jannes bjornson's picture

August 29, 2022 at 03:50 pm

I would run a Y-stack with Toure'-Doubs and Watson. See who gets to the endzone first. The West Coast of Bill Walsh meets Sid Gillman's Air Show with Don Coryell pointing the F-15, Just Do It !. Doubs from the AirRaid offense of Mouse Davis. Watson from a WCO variant and Toure' made the Badgers look like fools.

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Tundraboy's picture

August 29, 2022 at 07:55 pm

Exactly what keeps eating at me. Don't we want and need WR threats. I have been thinking I'd practice squad Davis if it meant keeping more wide receivers, or someone more likely to contribute now. And I wouldn't mind seeing a lot more four or five wide receiver sets this year.

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stockholder's picture

August 29, 2022 at 09:32 pm

I agree. If they're willing to use Amari Rodgers as a RB. Why shouldn't they use Lazard As an emergency TE. Carry 3 TEs. Davis to PS.

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PhantomII's picture

August 30, 2022 at 08:57 pm

They need as much as they can get...LOL

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baldski's picture

August 29, 2022 at 08:05 pm

I have watched the combination of Carson Strong/Romeo Doubs for their whole careers at UNR and last year I thought both were NFL ready.

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