Raiders 17 Packers 13: Game Balls & Lame Calls

Rebuild or regression?

For the second time this season the Packers lost a game they should have won. There are many reasons, but the biggest one is just the inability to execute on offense. Without the dynamic Aaron Jones, there just aren’t any playmakers on that side of the ball. Jordan Love shows no ability to put the team on his back. The offensive line struggles to block for both run and pass. Receivers are almost never open unless they are running harmless checkdowns. 

It was left to the defense to win the game. But after critical injuries to Quay Walker and Darnell Savage, they just couldn’t quite do it alone. They gave it a gallant try, making three stops in the fourth quarter. Three opportunities for the offense to put a drive together to win the game. But nobody on offense was up to the task. The Raiders came in to this game with one of the worst defenses in the league. Green Bay’s offense made them look like the ‘85 Bears. 

The Packers head into the bye week with the prospect of looking at a very long season. This was the easy part of the schedule. If they don’t come up with some answers to get the offense fixed, it’s hard to see teams in this league they can beat. 

GAME BALLS 

Rudy Ford 

His best game as a Packer. His nine tackles was second best on the unit. He did a masterful job of undercutting the crossing route on his interception. He hustled to the boundary to stone Josh Jacobs for no gain. On a night when Green Bay desperately needed a safety to step up in the wake of the calf injury to Savage, Ford was the man. 

Preston Smith 

The stat sheet doesn’t do him justice. It shows him with just three tackles. But one of them was a third down sack that ended a Raider drive. He was operating in the Vegas backfield all night. His most impressive play might have come in the second quarter.  Jimmy Garoppolo had slipped through the pass rush into a wide open middle and appeared on his way to a huge scramble down the seam. But Smith, who was rushing outside, exploded away from his blocker and tackled the Raider quarterback for a short gain.  

AJ Dillon 

I’m going to give him a game ball.. He ran hard all night. Often it was straight into a brick wall because of poor blocking. Still he muscled his way forward for 76 yards on 20 carries. On the Packers’ lone touchdown drive, he was impressive on consecutive gains of four, six, eleven, four, and a final touchdown run of five yards. Every one of them between the tackles. That’s the kind of power running we loved to see from him a few years ago. 

LAME CALLS 

Offensive Coaches 

For some reason, these coaches can’t seem to design plays that play to the strength of their talent. I keep thinking there must be something this unit can execute. Some sort of identity to hang your hat on. Defenses can’t take away everything. If the safeties are back they should be able to pound the rock. If the opponents crowd the box there should be something available over the top. There’s also a lack of adjustment. After Dillon kept trashing them straight up the gut, the Raiders adjusted and put a stop to it. That should have opened something else up. But there was no counter adjustment. The coaches either never found it, or the offense just wasn’t good enough to execute it.  Which brings me to the next Lame Call. 

The Whole Offense 

AJ Dillon notwithstanding, there’s nobody on this offense playing well. Jordan Love is showing nothing. He’s constantly underthrowing targets. Given three chances to engineer a game winning drive in the final quarter, he barely sniffed midfield. His three picks were terrible throws. The first one into triple coverage, the second one to a completely covered Christian Watson, and the third one was the most disappointing of all. Watson had beaten his man and gotten behind him all the way into the end zone. That should have been the long hero pass that dramatically wins the game. Instead, Love woefully underthrew it, making for an easy pick by the trailing Amik Robinson. 

Speaking of Watson, how does he get caught from behind on the 77 yard pass play? I thought he was supposed to be so lightning fast. Once he broke into the open field behind the secondary with the ball that should have been six. As it turned out, the four points Green Bay didn’t get when they had to settle for a field goal was the difference in the game. Romeo Doubs was invisible. Luke Musgrave just catches checkdowns and never seems to break a tackle. Did Jayden Reed even suit up for this game? I don’t have to state the obvious concerning the shortcomings of the O-line. 

After putting 38 points on the board against the Bears on opening day, this offense has scored 24, 18, 20 and 13. Sure, it’s a rebuilding year. But so far the Packers are not rebuilding. They are regressing. 

THREE AND OUT 

-- Maybe it was just my imagination but the Packer fans in Las Vegas sounded louder than they do at Lambeau. 

-- The funniest moment in the game had to be the comical belly flop by Zach Tom, upon being hit after the play by Maxx Crosby. That might have been the worst acting job in franchise history, but it worked. Crosby got the flag for unsportsmanlike conduct. 

-- The smartest decision of the night by a Packers coach was made by special teams boss Rich Bisaccia, who had the wisdom to put six foot seven inch tackle Yosh Nijman on the field goal coverage team. Nijman was able to reach for the sky and deflect a 52 yard field goal try in the fourth quarter that kept the deficit at four points. 

 

 

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Ken Lass is a former Green Bay television sports anchor and 43 year media veteran, a lifelong Packers fan, and a shareholder.

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Since'61's picture

October 10, 2023 at 07:21 am

Game Balls: AJ Dillon, Preston Smith, Rudy Ford and Rasul Douglas.

Lame Calls: Offensive play calling, OL, Receiving corps and Love.

The Packers beat themselves with numerous mental mistakes and turnovers. They weren't bad on penalties.

The OL had another poor game and Love made some bad throws. The offense looked out. of sync for most of the night except on the one TD drive which started with short field for the Packers offense.

Use the bye week to start over. Thanks, Since '61

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PeteK's picture

October 10, 2023 at 07:34 am

Very hard to play call when, as you mentioned, lame OL, receiving corps, and Love. One Keystone cops play was Myers being knocked down by Crosby as he was pulling PASSED him. The guy is practically in the backfield already, drive block him!

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T7Steve's picture

October 10, 2023 at 07:55 am

The O-line was doing well when Dillon got his wheels going, then did you notice they started putting Love in the shotgun with the backs lined up next to him and tried dives and play action from that? Then sat Dillon after he just got cooking during the most important drives for Taylor?

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Since'61's picture

October 10, 2023 at 09:28 am

Yes I noticed the switch to shotgun and sitting Dillon. I just don't get it. This coaching staff behaves like they are still in their first season of coaching. They should have kept pounding with Dillon until the Raiders proved they could stop him.

I understand the need rest Dillon for a few plays and obviously he is resting while the defense is on the field but why not keep Love under center. It is not only better for Dillon but it would make play action with Dillon more effeective as well.

This Packers offense is light years away from the Mike Holmgren era of play calling and execution.
Thanks, Since '61

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T7Steve's picture

October 10, 2023 at 09:43 am

You'd think they could practice and execute the first 15 plays or so. Even McCarthy was good at that. He just couldn't make in-game adjustments to stay ahead of the other coaches either.

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PackyCheese500's picture

October 10, 2023 at 08:18 pm

Rich B gets a game ball too! I want to see 6'9 Caleb Jones out there next time!

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porupack's picture

October 10, 2023 at 07:32 am

>>>>Green Bay’s offense made them look like the ‘85 Bears. >>>>>
<<<< these coaches can’t seem to design plays that play to the strength of their talent.>>>>
<<<Defenses can’t take away everything>>>>

Absolutely right Ken, every bit of your article is spot on. And that Nijman was inserted was smart, and probably one of the only bright light bulbs out of the coaching staff.

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coolhand's picture

October 10, 2023 at 09:18 am

So, why not put the other tall guys in the middle on FGs? Van Ness, Caleb Jones, get a push and get your hand up

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RCPackerFan's picture

October 10, 2023 at 07:38 am

Game Balls:

Smith - He had his best game of the season.

Carlson - I think we got the right brother.

Lame Calls:

Love - 3 interceptions, just bad. Then to throw the interception to end the game. Not good. He has regressed from week 1.

Offensive coaches - The game plan was not good. The play calling was fine but could have been a lot better. My issue with the play calling was after they hit Watson for the bomb. The next 2 play calls were runs. Why does that bother me? They were expecting it. They knew what was coming. They got down there with the long throw go and throw it. Instead 2 runs and pass and settle for a FG. They need to figure out this screen game. Because they absolutely can't run a screen right now. There is nothing they can hang their hat on right now and know its going to work.

Defensive coaches - I heard them say 17 points is enough to win the game. It wasn't last night. They need to allow 10 at most last night to win.
Sorry but why in the absolute hell do they have Preston Smith covering Adams? This alone puts them in the lame category.

3 and Out:

Dillon had his best game of the season. I thought about giving him a game ball, but figured not many really deserved one after that game.

No Jones no offense. Its not a coincidence our offense has struggled without Jones playing. Get Jones back and our offense will start to look better.

By the end of the game we had our back up ILB's and a backup S playing. I felt like they held up well. But we need to get Walker, Campbell and Savage back!

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egbertsouse's picture

October 10, 2023 at 07:50 am

Not Savage. They are better without him. He got injured on a missed tackle, which is ironic.

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dobber's picture

October 10, 2023 at 08:30 am

"They are better without him. "

No. They're not. He's not great, but he was actually playing pretty well.

He was playing the ball on that play, not the player.

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Coldworld's picture

October 10, 2023 at 10:09 am

He got injured driving for an interception

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DocHoliday's picture

October 10, 2023 at 02:10 pm

First pick was horrible.
Second pick, Watson was supposed to run a "deep curl". He never curled back. If Watson runs a real curl, defender can't get a hand on the ball. Easy completion (assuming Watson's hands work).
Third pick was a bit underthrown, but a starting WR having better positioning should have at defender the ball 30% of the time, caught the ball 30% of the time, drawn a flag 40% of the time.

Watson also had a chance at a deep completion earlier. Love correctly throws it slightly toward the middle of the field (Watson's right shoulder) away from the defender trailing Watson's left shoulder. Watson sees the ball but keeps sliding the defenders way as he runs. Ball falls right or Watson's hands (no defender there which is why it's thrown there).

Watson needs to figure out his hamstring so he can learn from these mistakes. Otherwise, it's time for a 2024 first round pick on someone like Emeka Egbuka.

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NJ-RICK's picture

October 10, 2023 at 07:46 am

Congratulations Murphy and Gute, The Packers have gone from First to Worst in two seasons. And lets not forget the team is in Salary Cap Hell for the next two seasons. The Packers are a triple AAA football team in the NFL. Another exciting game from two lousy football teams last night. Get prepared Packer fans welcome back to the 70's and 80's when the Packer were bottom dwellers in the NFL. Poor drafting and free agent acquisitions have put this team where they are now. And how is that #1 pick Luka Van Ness playing..? The non starter in college football drafted by the Packers in the first round. Looking more and more like another Dean Lowry. Time to move on from Murphy and Gute and start making changes at the top. Sure glad I didn't purchase the NFL Sunday Ticket this season. Trading deadline is up in three week time for a fire sale in Green Bay. Packers are a mess.

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13TimeChamps's picture

October 10, 2023 at 10:06 am

Just like clockwork NJ-RICK shows up after a loss wanting to clean house. Interesting how he never shows up after a win.

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Packerpasty's picture

October 10, 2023 at 10:30 am

yah, but he's also correct on everything he said..

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CanPackFan's picture

October 10, 2023 at 10:40 am

Sorry NJ. You've got part of it right. Gutes is not the problem. Murphy is as clueless as MLF! No doubt who hired MLF. And we have Murphy until July 25. Murphys' legacy will be tearing this team down year after year. But, we do have good looking financials and fancy new buildings... argh!

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Packers1985's picture

October 10, 2023 at 11:09 am

Gutes is not the problem seriously??? I agree he is not all the reason but for sure part of the reason. The Oline that was there last nite were all Gutey's drafts weren't we complaining about them. Didn't we complain that young love doesn't have experienced weapons around him wait who was the reason for that? This is what me and some of the members mentioning for a while here that we should've had some Wr's selected in previous drafts to gain experience as a back up plan for Adams. He was too much into measurables etc etc and always after high ceiling players than real football players yes some can work but it can be risky.

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Coldworld's picture

October 10, 2023 at 11:12 am

You do know we had zero cap? We couldn’t sign a limp turnip. Well Watkins.

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Packers1985's picture

October 10, 2023 at 11:37 am

Drafting a wr would've been helpful to the team that was void of WR2 for a while even when Adams was there.

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tobinrote's picture

October 10, 2023 at 08:04 am

again the team was not ready to play and that after a long week. Compare first round pick Love with last pick Purdy.
one cannot see the field or find his open men and when he sees them he misses the throw; the other sees the field finds the man and hits him. admittedly Purdy has a great O line with lots of weapons, but still... but we need to clean house of the coaches. the team is never ready, and when the other team seems to have MLF's play sheet by heart, MLF can make no workable adjustments. again embarrassed on national tv two games in a row.

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Fubared's picture

October 10, 2023 at 08:10 am

First, when you need a rb to save your team and he is sitting, there is something very wrong with the team strategy.
LeFleur doesnt get it that its a passing league. A team that runs dies by the run. Trailing late in games means a shift to passing and the receivers are clueless. "You havent thrown to me the whole game and now your zinging the ball to me and I'm supposed to save you - aka Doubs, Toure.
Second, I think we all know who Love is now. He is a guy who needs more thinking time to process the field then the NFL will afford him. This is Gutts pick.
Also, I didnt here Wyatts name all night and he was another one pick of Gutt, where the hell is he in this. Gutts pick.
Gutts third round TE caught his first and only pass and its game five? The Vikes Addison caught his fourth TD of the season yesterday and is a barn burner to mirror Jefferson and our third rounder can get on the field? WTF
Long sorry season for this team but you can bet by the end we will know, Love isnt the guy and we have a few in the same boat as him on this team and they were Gutts picks.

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Razer's picture

October 10, 2023 at 08:11 am

Matt Lafleur is trying cute, ticky tacky stuff with a team that can't get the fundamentals of blocking straight. Watson's 2nd quarter sweep where almost every blocking assignment was missed is high school caliber. He wants the illusion of complexity but it is too complex to execute. I feel sorry for the guys because they look lost.

On a wider front, you gotta ask why a team moving on from a long standing MVP QB didn't design the team to pound the ball more effectively and give their new, young QB a competitive foundation. We keep playing this finesse offense with a thousand moving parts that doesn't fool anyone. Time to rip the bandaid off and rebuild the philosophy.

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dobber's picture

October 10, 2023 at 08:19 am

There's nothing wrong with running wide zone and other more mobile run game concepts if you're going to use a back who's suited to do it. They tried more power concepts last night, and the OL played better in that than in other recent games, but Dillon isn't a good match for what this OL is better suited to do.

It comes back to the fact that 33 is the straw that stirs the drink on this offense. Without him, they're not even competent.

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RCPackerFan's picture

October 10, 2023 at 08:26 am

"It comes back to the fact that 33 is the straw that stirs the drink on this offense. Without him, they're not even competent."

They need to remember this in the offseason when it comes time to draft some players. They need to find more explosive RB's that can help stir the drink.

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Coldworld's picture

October 10, 2023 at 10:18 am

We need to stop letting the hope that Jones can save us blind us to the fact that our coaches can’t do anything else but pray one player can overcome their tactical bankruptcy and complete disarray on the OL coaching. The chances are that just gets 33 killed and we are basing optimism on his performance against one if the very worst defenses as well. Add to that, his best play was a pass.

The time to face facts has arrived. LaFleur no longer has coat tails to ride on. He has a young roster he’s no idea what to do with. He’s getting out coached consistently and not one of us could name a coordinator or position coach that he hired as a bright spot.

The emperor is indeed naked. He has always been.

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Razer's picture

October 10, 2023 at 08:43 am

I don't care if we are running between the tackles or wide zone, the O-line and the TEs need to be assignment sure and capable of making the blocks. Hoping that rookie TE Kraft is going to handle Maxx Crosby is fool hardy. Aaron Jones is a good back, I just don't know if he can overcome the "illusion of complexity".

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Tundraboy's picture

October 10, 2023 at 01:54 pm

Agree, which raises the question and by the way, seemingly one that we ask every day ,every week then why not play Taylor or Wilson.? And barely at all yet they bring them up because Jones is out. And always followed with absurd post game comments. This team is being mismanaged and is not being coached and if it doesn't stop they'll be in total free fall. MLF has become a total embarrassment.

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CanPackFan's picture

October 10, 2023 at 10:48 am

While I was happy to see AR12 leave for all parties, we now see that Rodgers/Adam's made MLFs record in his first 2 seasons. MLF has to actually prepare now that Rodgers isn't there to bail him out. And he isn't.

ANY HC can have a goid record with a HOF QB at the helm. MLF is proving that week after week.

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egbertsouse's picture

October 10, 2023 at 08:14 am

Ken is the only analyst holding Live responsible for all three interceptions. Correct! They were all poor throws on his part. Expecting receivers to make exceptional catches on bad throws is just a failure to hold Love accountable for his poor performance and continue the kid glove treatment this guy gets from the media. Time to put on the big-boy pants, Jordan.

I watched the Manning brothers broadcast because I can’t stand the comedy duo of Joe Smug and Troy Arrogant. Interestingly, Peyton Manning said that it looks like Love is not “seeing the field quickly enough “ and that many times guys are open but by the time Love sees and throws it, they are covered up again. Eli said Love has to “anticipate guys getting open and not wait until he sees them open “ and that’s why the throws are late. Since these guys played, I thought the comments were interesting. It also sounds like, with experience, Love could improve in this area.

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coolhand's picture

October 10, 2023 at 09:25 am

People are bashing Love, and for good reason so far. But let's remember, Aikman was terrible in Dallas his first year and so was Peyton Manning in Indy. He set the record for interceptions in a season. So let's cut this kid a little slack.

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13TimeChamps's picture

October 10, 2023 at 10:15 am

But to be fair, they were both true rookies thrown into the fire, while Love is a 4th year player with years of learning the offense before starting. His accuracy issues are really starting to become very worrisome.

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Coldworld's picture

October 10, 2023 at 10:37 am

Rodgers threw more interceptions than TDs in the 4th quarter when behind in his first year. He wasn’t a rookie either. Actually, Rodgers ratings and points are only marginally better than Love’s this far in to his first season as a starter. Rodgers also had better OL play, run game and catching. I’d argue coaching and game plan also. It is to be expected. It’s ugly, but it’s not dispositive and definitely not surprising.

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13TimeChamps's picture

October 10, 2023 at 10:59 am

The Love-Rodgers comparisons are really getting tiresome. The only commonality between them is that they were both lower 1st round draft picks who sat three years before becoming QB1.

They are different players playing under different circumstances with different coaching staffs and a different supporting cast around them.

I may be wrong...it's been awhile...but I don't remember Rodgers being compared to Favre non-stop like Love has been to Rodgers. I understand why to a point, but the constant..."Yeah but after 3 games Rodgers...after 4 games Rodgers...after 5 games Rodgers did such and such".

Maybe it's time to let Jordan Love be Jordan Love...for better or worse.

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Packerpasty's picture

October 10, 2023 at 12:31 pm

and lets stop comparing Love to first year true rookies, which he certainly isn't...has he learned anything running the scout teams and starting in preseason games?? His accuracy wasn't there in any of the open training camp practices I attended...no "wow" moments...he's a fourth year guy, a new starter true but how much will he grow from here on out??

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jannes bjornson's picture

October 10, 2023 at 01:43 pm

Like Murphy said, we'll see how he looks after Eight Games. Adams made Hundley look stable. This squad with no experienced WRs.

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Packers1985's picture

October 10, 2023 at 11:25 am

I dont know but i feel this OL has more probowlers compared to the one's that Rodgers has had that yr but yes there was continuity then but becoz of some injuries there has been constant shuffling this yr and also last yr and coming to Running Game didnt we brag start of the last yr this is the best RB duo to have and i dont that was the same back in 2008 and coming to WR's yes Rodgers inherited some exp guys like Driver and Jennings. In that case the question comes to Gutey about not doing much to provide love with some experienced weapons.

Again like 13timechampions mentioned it's really two different era's. Now a days most of the players coming from college are more ready than before and most of time they are thrown in the fire to start immediately or the next yr.

For the real comparison we need to compare love's numbers to the one's who were picked in the 2020 draft .

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Packerpasty's picture

October 10, 2023 at 10:39 am

Love is not a rookie, he's fourth year....he's been in camp running scout teams and often the starting team...stop with the rookie stuff...he's inaccurate and always has been ...scouts said "buyer beware" when he was coming out of college into the draft...

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CanPackFan's picture

October 10, 2023 at 10:51 am

Let's not start bashing Love! He is young and is learning. The poor kid has got a suspect oline, had no running backs of calibre and young receivers.

Would u rather have him or Justin Fields?

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Packerpasty's picture

October 10, 2023 at 12:32 pm

sorry but it goes with the territory...he's the starting QB and unfortunately he's running MLF's crap offense..

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Tundraboy's picture

October 10, 2023 at 06:09 pm

Joe Smug and Troy Arrogant Perfect description.

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Fubared's picture

October 10, 2023 at 08:34 pm

Love can't see traffic as we used to say in the faa. Either your able mentally to envision something happening and take action before it does is similar to knowing the routes and throwing before the guy gets to the spot. Love can't do that and never will. You either have it or you don't. 60% of controller hires can't and wash out..
I say give up on love he isn't the answer. The game is too fast for his mind to take in.

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dobber's picture

October 10, 2023 at 08:15 am

Game Balls
Anders Carlson. Kicking way over his head based on what we saw in preseason and the only consistent scoring threat on this team right now.

The Defense. This defense played really well considering (1) they played the majority of the game without any legit starting ILBs and (2) Savage went out early in the second half with an injury. In this league, when you hold your opponent to 17 points or less, you should win the majority of those games--maybe like 85% of those games. There will be the dumbasses out there who will spout "yeah, but they gave up a drive...blah...blah." The defense kept the Packers in that game and deserved a better result.

Lame Calls
Offensive game plan and coaching.
Last night should've been an opportunity to try some things, be creative, and put some points up against what was supposed to be a down-in-the-mouth and ready-to-fold Raiders team. What we saw was an offensive game plan that doubled down on a struggling back did very little to give a young--and let's call it what it is--struggling QB a real chance to grow. Uncreative and repetitive play calls, failure to allow 10 to get into any kind of rhythm or to generate easy looks and confidence-building short throws...and key dropped passes on a final drive that might've had a chance if they could just move the effin' chains. The Raiders were also playing without 2 of their top 4 CBs, too...any playcaller worth their salt would've found those guys and moved the ball on them.

I give Dillon credit for what was his best game of the year (which really isn't saying a lot), but also put the Packers in a place where they've struggled of late--sustaining drives and to not making stupid mistakes. The Raiders were happy to shorten this game and let the Packers to play 3.5 yards and a cloud of dust football. The Packers just pounded between the tackles and allowed the Raiders to load the box, jam the inside gaps, and--when the Packers tried play-action (which wasn't often enough--blow up the OL.

The OL
While the OL was able to make hay on ONE drive in the second half moving the ball on the ground, they weren't able to hold the Raiders' very pedestrian pass rush at bay, and 10 was regularly hassled on his low number (through 3 quarters) of dropbacks. It was supposed to be a relief that Jenkins and JRJ were healthy enough to play, but 50 didn't have a good night and neither did 63. The question is: what has Nijman done (or NOT done) that has buried him so far down the depth chart that they can't give him a chance to displace Walker--who is (at best) way too inconsistent?

We've been schmoozed into thinking that this unit was deep and talented. It's not playing well and everything hinges on that.

"Speaking of Watson, how does he get caught from behind on the 77 yard pass play?"

The ball wasn't laid-out for him, first of all, and the DB (24) saw he was beat and played the angle to take away the sideline from Watson--turns out it was probably the game-saving play. He forced Watson back into the middle of the field where his DB help could catch up...it's just geometry: who had further to run? The real travesty was that the Packers then ran good ol' McCarthy goal line offense, bouncing Dillon off the LOS twice for no gain and then throwing the ball away in play-action that fooled no one.

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Guam's picture

October 10, 2023 at 08:59 am

I wasn't concerned that Watson got caught on the long play, but am very concerned that he didn't fight for the ball on the last interception. Yes, Love underthrew Watson, but the back of the endzone was coming up and QB1 had a reasonable expectation that a 6'5" 210 pound WR should outfight a 5'9" 185 pound CB for the ball. Didn't happen. Watson didn't even put up a fight, but faded away to the back of the endzone. Ouch!

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coolhand's picture

October 10, 2023 at 09:29 am

I agree. I thought Watson should have been the defender there and try to keep the CB from catching it. He didn't do anything. Same with the long pass down the middle. Love laid it out to Watson's left away from the defender, but he didn't make a move for the ball, just kept running straight. I wonder what he is thinking sometimes.

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13TimeChamps's picture

October 10, 2023 at 10:21 am

"There will be the dumbasses out there who will spout "yeah, but they gave up a drive...blah...blah." The defense kept the Packers in that game and deserved a better result."

Agree 100%. The defense got the ball back to the offense numerous times to get back into the game, and the offense failed to do their part.

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Greenandgoldmemories's picture

October 10, 2023 at 08:17 am

I think Packers’ fans have been a bit unrealistic. They have a virtual rookie at quarterback, and he, like the fans, have discovered that there is a big difference between making great passes in training camp and preseason than in the real games, especially when you are the starting quarterback. Throw out Love’s first-game performance against the Bears; the Chicagoans were a mess during that first week.

The Packers have an O Line that was probably over-rated going into the season. Now that there are reserves playing for injured, O-line starters, that five-some has weakened. On defense, they have some fine safeties but one “all pro” corner, Alexander, has been far less than all pro during the last three seasons. It’s baffling to me why Green Bay struggles to stop the run year-after-year and it doesn’t seem to make a difference who the defensive coordinator is.

The head coach, to be honest, was protected by Aaron Rodgers during his first three seasons. Rodgers is gone. We’ll find out what kind of coach MLF is this season.

Packers’ fans will need patience this year, and probably next year, too.

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mrtundra's picture

October 10, 2023 at 08:43 am

Yes! The Packers are a very young team and are growing up on the field. It will take time to get things right. Patience, from the fans, is a must if this team is to reach its potential. There are bound to be bumps in the road, with a team this young. Roll with the punches. Winning takes time.

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Packerpasty's picture

October 10, 2023 at 12:36 pm

time and new coach and perhaps QB...losing breeds losing especially in the NFL...

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CanPackFan's picture

October 10, 2023 at 10:57 am

OLine was not probably overrated - is OVERRATED! Typical GB media overhype!

We have to ignore the media hype and Wisconsin writers who have to hype the team and come up with reasonable expectations.

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Packerpasty's picture

October 10, 2023 at 12:35 pm

oh, and next year too...wow thats a long learning curve...this is the big boy league now, this fourth year guy better pick up the pace and his accuracy too...excuses are starting to get tedious and lame...

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Packerpasty's picture

October 10, 2023 at 12:38 pm

a virtual rookie...thats just pure bullshit...anyone in the league for 4 years is not a virtual rookie no matter what spin you put on it...he's not Bryce Young..

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White92's picture

October 10, 2023 at 07:35 pm

Look the GM traded up to draft a middling prospect without giving the HOF QB a heads up. The diva couldn't get over it and here we are. No veteran receiver, no veteran TE, and a first year starter at QB. Cap hell. Should have known this GM was a disaster when he took a punter and a long snapper in his first draft!

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Rebecca's picture

October 10, 2023 at 08:18 am

The entire team seems emotionally spent, and as we all know a team that beats itself sure makes it easy for the opponent to beat it. Even Aaron Jones’s uplifting enthusiasm has waned. I’ve lowered my expectations but not my standards. We expected a growth year but are getting more of a recession year.

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Rarescope's picture

October 10, 2023 at 05:07 pm

“ Even Aaron Jones’s uplifting enthusiasm has waned.”

I’m sure that has nothing to do with him sitting on the sidelines for the past three or so games. Or the loss of our HOF QB. Can’t remember if it was you or Tarynseyes who was jumping with glee when Love was drafted.

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Cheezehead72's picture

October 10, 2023 at 08:23 am

I would add to the lame calls. MLF calling a time out at 47 seconds left of the first when it appeared the Raiders were letting the clock run. They did not score but that was only because they missed a makeable FG.

Watson got caught because he had to slow up to catch the ball. The ball was under thrown.

I have come to the conclusion that MLF cannot be the HC, OC, and play caller at one time. It worked with Rodgers and experienced players on the team but with this young team and mainly the offense it is not working. The HC needs to spend most of their time and energy at coordinating the activities of all three phases. This young offense needs an OC and play caller that can devote most of their time to their development and working to build a plan to their capabilities. This was magnified when Jones was determined not available a day before the game.

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dobber's picture

October 10, 2023 at 08:28 am

I agree: I always cringe at HC's--especially young ones--who want to be playcallers. At this stage he's backed himself into a corner. If he abdicates play-calling to someone else (Stenavich?), he's admitting he can't get it done when this was supposed to be his thing. Actually, his talk about spending more time working with defense last week was the perfect excuse for him to hand those duties over.

Instead, it's all falling at his feet, and likely accelerating him down the path out the door.

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RCPackerFan's picture

October 10, 2023 at 08:51 am

I'm good with LaFleur as the play caller. But he needs someone (offensive coordinator) to help him out.
I am wondering if Steno is the right guy. With Hackett I feel like the offense ran more smoothly. I wonder if LaFleur needs a guy in his ear saying we need to run this or that.

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dobber's picture

October 10, 2023 at 09:11 am

"With Hackett--"

Hackett was no prize either. That offense ran mostly on 12 feeding 17 and 33, and an OL that could protect him.

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RCPackerFan's picture

October 10, 2023 at 09:40 am

It was the style offense that was being ran though. They were able to add Ervin in the middle of the year and add him to the offense and build it around him.

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Cheezehead72's picture

October 10, 2023 at 09:46 am

I agree that with the HC situation we are in the corner. I am not sure if MLF can be a good HC even if he was not calling plays. Some coaches are good coordinators but bad HCs. I do think he can be a very good OC if and call plays if that is all he is doing.

The best we can do this year is for him to give up play calling to Stenovich or someone else but I am not sure if any of the coaches are is ready for it. The lesser option is for MLF to be demoted to OC and play caller and they make Bisaccia the HC. I do not see that happening as that would require Gute to make a tough personnel decision and we know he does not like to upset people and make waves.

Nothing will be done until after Thankingiving Day.

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Rarescope's picture

October 10, 2023 at 05:13 pm

“ I do think he can be a very good OC if and call plays if that is all he is doing.”

And that is based on what? His record when ARod was QB? That ship has sailed my friend. Don’t get me wrong, I was stoked to see him feeding Dillon and getting results but after that series it was like wtf are they doing out there? Bunch of little dump offs for little to no gain. Oh that’s not working let’s go back to Dillon. Oh that’s not working let’s air it out and… interceptions. It was like he forgot we had any WR on the team for like an entire half of the game. Head scratching to say the least.

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Razer's picture

October 10, 2023 at 08:56 am

"I have come to the conclusion that MLF cannot be the HC, OC, and play caller at one time."

I totally agree with this assessment. The head coach needs to focus on building/managing the coaching staff and nurturing the overall energy of the team. Lafleur has not built a solid staff and he is struggling to ensure that fundamentals of the team are improving. It is a full time job just fixing the play calling on this team o:)

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White92's picture

October 10, 2023 at 07:38 pm

If the Packers fired MLF, would any other team hire him? I don't think so..

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jlc1's picture

October 10, 2023 at 09:50 pm

48-18 in his first four seasons? He would get hired. I mean it's pretty obvious he interviews well;)

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jlc1's picture

October 10, 2023 at 09:50 pm

Check that. 47-18.

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LeotisHarris's picture

October 10, 2023 at 08:42 am

At least Anders Carlson can talk smack at Thanksgiving with the fam. Game ball!

I can be patient with this group of athletes. I'm afraid I'm becoming a firm believer in LaFleur's illusion of competence. Musgrave couldn't come all the way across the formation to block and unblocked DE last week, so we expect it in this game? It hasn't worked against Hutchinson or Crosby. Maybe Denver has a statue-like DE it'll work on?

Love is going to be alright.

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Booner's picture

October 10, 2023 at 09:08 am

Coaching on both sides of the ball is horrific! Love just looks bad! The by week is not going to save our Packers. We need better leaders running our organization!!!!!!

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DocHoliday's picture

October 10, 2023 at 09:15 am

Watch video of Hines Ward teaching a curl route, then watch Watson's route on the "deep curl" that resulted in the deflected pass interception.

Watch video of any starting #1 WR fight for a deep ball pass vs Watson drifting backwards on the last interception. Watson never fought for the ball, no way he gets that call. Adams would have turned that into an easy TD or at least had the Packers at the 1 yard line with a flag...because he would have fought for the ball.

Watch video of the deep ball that was catchable, but Watson drifts too far to his left instead of making what should have been a minimum of a big gain. Instead it was incomplete.

Doubs drops easy pass.

Musgrave drops easy pass.

Love's first interception was horrible. However, the last two interceptions don't happen if Watson isn't lazy.

For those talking about Davante Adams. His first 2 years were filled with drops, bad routes, not fighting for the ball. These kids need to realize they decide whether they will be in the league in 2 years or if they will have a long career. Every year, most of the NFL draft picks don't make it because they either don't have the talent or don't commit. Watson, Doubs, Reed, Musgrave have the talent. Time for them to decide their future.

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Curt's picture

October 10, 2023 at 11:43 am

I wouldn't call Watson lazy - just not aggressive enough. He had to slow up on the last play since ball was underthrown, but he was clearly pushed back by defender with a straight arm which allowed defender to then turn and make the catch. Without the straight arm, he might have been able to contend, but really no chance/

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DocHoliday's picture

October 10, 2023 at 12:06 pm

You are right, I was overly critical on the lazy part. Frustrated by the growing pains. Unlike Rodgers first year when the previous year's team was in the NFC championship, this Packers team is a bunch of kids and too many leadership vets being hurt.

Watson never sold that pass interference. It looked too much like he was fading backwards. Any top 20 WR would make sure to be in the air earlier so the contact would have been so obvious even Raiders fans would admit it.

Rodgers would have ripped any WR who doesn't at least defend the pass so it's not intercepted. After this, Rodgers would avoid throwing to Watson for 2-3 games.

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Rarescope's picture

October 10, 2023 at 05:17 pm

Was Reed even targeted outside of punt returns? I was screaming at the tv to throw it to him and he got maybe one target? The F Lafleur…

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canadapacker's picture

October 10, 2023 at 09:16 am

All that I can say is this - IF anybody thought that Lafleur was an offensive genius - the proof is in the pudding = He is NOT. It was all AR - and mostly AR and Davante and the boys. Now please dont blame it on Jone's injury - because that while he is a threat - good offenses find ways to compensate - and Lafeur has not. Now the Vegas team is absolutely horrible and we could not find work arounds? Crosby was all over the place but other teams have found work arounds for him and not let him wreck games. I would not be giving our D a big pat on the back for their play against the Raiders either because that offense is plain and simple not good both on the field and statistically - so dont pat yourself on the back Barry. We have a very mobile quarterback whose accuracy and decision making seems to have been crippled by Lafleur and his offensive play design. The only motion that occurs is the odd receiver moving from one side to the other presnap and everything else seems to be static. If this is not corrected during the bye - it will be a long rest of the season and could be the demise of Love - Love has the skills and mobility and the receivers have the speed and while they are still learning the route running skills to get open - the whole offensive scheme needs to be re-aligned around motion and ball out fast and dont understand why Lafleur cant see this.

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PackfanNY's picture

October 10, 2023 at 09:16 am

I am not sure what everyone was/is expecting. This is the “youngest” team in the league with an unproven QB. That’s not an excuse for poor play. Love was either incapable or the play calling didn’t allow the Packers to push the ball down the field against a weak secondary. The Oline play has been unacceptably bad. Jones or not there were no holes to run through. Crosby was in our backfield more than I was in the kitchen looking for food and beer. Worst team? No. Bottom half of the League? Yes.

Buckle up. Going to be a long year. Hopefully, they make some progress to fix some of the many weaknesses so we can go into 2024 with at least some hope.

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coolhand's picture

October 10, 2023 at 09:37 am

I agree about the O line. They have to do something to shake them up and get them fighting and playing as a unit. I see very little push on run plays. They do not get the defense moving backwards. Tough to run when the back gets met at the LOS and has to fight for 3 yards.

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CanPackFan's picture

October 10, 2023 at 11:00 am

There is only 1 way to fix bad coaching! Think the color PINK...

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White92's picture

October 10, 2023 at 07:48 pm

I don't know about everyone, but there were some on this site calling this a 10 win team. I want that strain dude

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TommyG's picture

October 10, 2023 at 10:03 am

If you haven’t caught Jaire’s locker room interview, you should go and listen. He sums it up quite gently and eloquently, but the frustration with the offense is palatable. The defense feels like they not only have to keep a clean sheet, but that they will likely be the only ones scoring as well.

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CanPackFan's picture

October 10, 2023 at 10:32 am

Prior to this game, I read an article that said the Raiders were one of the worst teams in football. Now, we have the same record. Good call, Rex!

And prior to this game, I felt that the WORST RESULT would be a Packer loss AND the defense playing better for a change. That result might elongate the employment of Joe Dingle Berry. And sure enough, what happens...

This is a young and talented team that are going to lose some games that they should have won. We all understand that. But piss poor coaching is inexcusable! LaGoofs offense was, well, offensive. Barry has a 265 lb lineman covering the best receiver in the league? Yep, not surprised. Steno is not an OC and I question many things about him now.

We have a Bye to let this clueless coaching staff come up with answers? Sure. I won't even listen to LaGoofs upcoming pressers now. Until we see some coaching changes on this clueless staff - Rich B aside - this team has a lot more to worry about than young, inexperienced players.

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Packerpasty's picture

October 10, 2023 at 10:44 am

Love = Hundley & Kizer....career journeyman....AR made MLF seem like a competent HQ, he's not, look what these players see coming off the field in a tough situation, a meek looking guy hiding behind a play sheet, now look at Campbell on the sidelines of the Lions...thats who players respect....

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badaxed's picture

October 10, 2023 at 08:09 pm

‘JOE DINGLE BARRY’ LOL. SPOT ON.

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jannes bjornson's picture

October 10, 2023 at 10:47 am

Yawn...

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PackAttack4155's picture

October 10, 2023 at 10:48 am

While watching LaFleur get cute with his playcalling and abandon what was working (AJ Dillon and run blocking for a change), a friend shared a Reddit comment he saw: "I see now why Rodgers audibled out of a lot of these play calls." This was supposed to be the year LaFleur got to show his offensive acumen, and its not looking great. It can't all be on him, execution is just as important, but the playcalling didn't exactly set the players up for success. Too many 2nd or 3rd and longs with passes of one or two yards, or behind the line. Then deep passes on short yardage to gain. Can anyone guess what he said during his postgame interview? "I've got to do better." When do the words translate into action?

I've been down on Dillon for a while, and it was nice to see him show up. Its not his fault the playcalling moved away from him. Having every receiver in the early stages of their pro development isn't helping Love any. Rodgers had Donald Driver and Greg Jennings in his first year as a starter. Wouldn't mind if the FO went out to get Love some help. Not that it would add any extra time for him to throw; pass blocking is falling off in a major way. That said, Love's first INT maybe the worst I've seen. Even if Spillane wasn't right there to catch the gift wrapped INT, another defender was immediately behind him, ready to do the same. He didn't just miss one defender, he missed two.

Raiders first TD was a nine yard pass against a defense playing the same old off line soft coverage; a play call as if 40 yards still needed to be gained for a score. Trying to take away the big play? A nine yard TD is the big play there, Barry. Defense did only allow 10 more points after that, with many solid performances. Holding any team to under 20 points makes any game winnable.

Everyone anticipated an up and down, sometimes rough sometimes encouraging, season with development a major priority. I don't think its all gloom and doom, but that was a very frustrating game to watch. Against one of the worst teams in the league, no less. Injuries are decimating the roster; the bye couldn't have come at a better time. LaFleur probably doesn't need to worry about his position this season, unless the team completely collapses and loses to the likes of the Bears at Lambeau, but his seat should be warming up. He needs to finally "do better."

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jurp's picture

October 10, 2023 at 11:56 am

I can't wait to see what KC does to us in prime time in December. Heck, looking at the schedule right now, 6-11 may be the best we can do. Wins against NYG, MN (at GB), Carolina and CHI could be doable. Maybe LAC? TB here in December, maybe, cause of the cold?

If MLF loses the locker room, even 6-11 may be unattainable.

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Handsback's picture

October 10, 2023 at 11:05 am

Love was not very effective last night. I think the play calling/scheme for the game was very sketchy. Now Love isn't a rookie, but he's not experienced either. The problem with the receivers, which we expected, deal with route running. An inexperienced QB, rookie and 2nd year receivers WILL NOT PLAY UP TO THEIR STANDARDS UNTIL THEY HAVE EXPERIENCED WHAT WON"T WORK. It's just human nature that people will tell you a dozen times do it this way and not that way, but guess what.....you won't change until you do it wrong and say to yourself "Dang it now I know why they want me to do it that way."

The strength of the Packers was suppose to be the oline and defense. Oline has not shown to be very capable after Bak went down and Jenkins isn't 100%, so again young linemen learning by doing. The defense sometimes is just comical. MLF has this year to get the right coaches and system in place with the youngest squad in the NFL, after this year I suspect he will be on a very short leash. The NFL as we always have heard stands for Not For Long. I expect more games like last night but also some games like they played against Chicago and NO. We will see how this season plays out. Still enjoy watching them.
Just MHO

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jannes bjornson's picture

October 10, 2023 at 02:06 pm

The O line is poorly coached. It is that simple. Rhyan was a third round pick, where is he? They knew Bhak was unlikely to finish a season, yet zero OT drafted. A personnel issue across the board. No backup for A.Jones profile.

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ricky's picture

October 10, 2023 at 11:10 am

Time for a wholesale coaching purge. After the Packers had a really bad year, Mike McCarthy replaced eight assistant coaches. Time for LaFleur to do the same. If he can't, then he should be replaced by someone else. Butkus needs to go, since the OL has been floundering badly since he's taken over as position coach.
LaFleur should also be put on alert that the days of not making in-game adjustments; never having an answer when the opponent shuts down the original scheme; and constantly talking about how things are going to change. And then keeps doing the same things. Stenavich needs to go back to coaching the OL, or be told to leave, as he is (right now) the second worst OC in Packer history. It seems the rest of the league has learned how to stop the Packers offense. Yet, there are no new ideas or game plans. The "illusion of complexity" has become the "reality of failure". Time to start over with some new blood, and innovative coaches. And if they cost more than "promoting from within", who cares? The bottom line for the Packers should be winning Super Bowls, not having record profits.

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jurp's picture

October 10, 2023 at 11:50 am

If we lose twice to the Lions and Vikings and then close out the season with a loss to the Bears, we might get a complete purge, which wouldn't be a bad idea, IMO.

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Tekraut17's picture

October 10, 2023 at 03:07 pm

You can call Stenavich the OC but I see MLF with the play sheet and talking into the mic calling in the plays...

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jurp's picture

October 10, 2023 at 11:49 am

Over many months of discussion surrounding a certain former QB, Coldword and others speculated that a season free from the presence of that QB would tell us whether Scooter and Boys are, in fact, a good coaching staff or not. I suspect we've been getting the answer to this question over the past five weeks. IMO, the only good coaches on the staff and Bisaccia and probably Clements (though Love's regression could be pinned on him, I suppose). Perhaps I'm being harsh to some of the assistant coaches, but the Big Three seem to be very poor. I hope we get a change at season's end, if not before.

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Packerpasty's picture

October 10, 2023 at 12:42 pm

im with ya...and your not being too harsh at all.

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Packer_Fan's picture

October 10, 2023 at 12:00 pm

There are lots of things wrong with the Packers. And a lot has to do with the coaches. Why does is appear in the 4th quarter teams drive on the defense for long drives. They seem to know Barry's tendencies and call plays to match them. How can Smith be guarding Adams? How can Campbell be guarding Robinson in the Atlanta game for an easy 3rd down conversion. The opponents know that those plays will work and wait to call them at the appropriate times. That is Barry, period.

What happened on the offense of a blend of short and long plays. How about rolling out to give Love more time. The whole offense appears disjointed. The defenses are attacking Love and it destroys the timing and execution of plays. Things just don't look good. And Love and the receivers better start practicing on their own to learn how to catch passes that are not perfect. That is because Love is so inaccurate.

This is going to be a long season. 10 to 12 losses at this point. And they have an easy schedule where 10 wins were possible. But they have no idea on how to win. And that includes the coaches too.

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Packerpasty's picture

October 10, 2023 at 12:45 pm

you think last night was bad just wait if Bronco's beat them...Bronco's and Raiders two of the worst, one has already beat them...I wouldnt put too much money down on the Packers next game...

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lpirlot's picture

October 10, 2023 at 12:49 pm

Musgrave has no YAC because he can't keep his feet when he does catch the ball. Dude needs serious balance training.

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fireball's picture

October 10, 2023 at 12:59 pm

I get the feeling that LaFleur has no idea what to do with his starting quarterback- how to make up plays for him and the new receivers. I mean, man! he's worked with Love for three fucking years. By now LaFleur should have some idea of Love's tendencies, his weaknesses, his strengths But the whole offense just looks lost, like they don't have a fucking clue.

All of the above comes down to the head coach, to Matt LaFleur. He's the head honcho. He sets the tone.

I say again: So what the hell were those first three highly successful years as head coach of the Packers. Was it really Aaron Rodgers and Davante Adams ( future hall of fame veterans ) who made all the difference?

This is a rebuilding team alright. So is the head coach.

I've gotta have patience. I've gotta believe. I have to have faith.

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rowe450's picture

October 10, 2023 at 01:23 pm

Game plan -

You simply can't come into a game with the idea you will give a limited power back 20 carries .... and have no other running ideas at all! No end rushes, no delays, no speed rushes. You know why Maxx whatever his name is was so tough?

Cause he didn't have to think about anything but Dillion up the middle dives and his own pass rush.

Jones has not played since week 1. if you don't trust any other backs we have .... go out and get a back you do trust.

This game planning is high school level .... if that.

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Tundraboy's picture

October 10, 2023 at 02:13 pm

Yep!

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badaxed's picture

October 10, 2023 at 08:18 pm

Spot on

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Qoojo's picture

October 10, 2023 at 02:11 pm

This is probably the most disappointing game of the season thus far.

On the bright side, defense played good enough to win, but is still too soft vs run. Raiders are one of the worst running teams and they put up decent run yards. I was happy to see that MLF figured out how best to use Dillon finally, qb under center.

Now on to why this game was so disappointing.

- MLF play calling was horrid. Raiders would adjust, and MLF wouldn't. You could see how they stacked the box against run after the long 77 yard pass.
- MLF simply did not have plan for Crosby
- Love's accuracy is becoming a problem. He underthrows a lot.
- Offense looked like shit
- That first INT by Love.

I just don't see Love getting more accurate or MLF getting smarter. No need to comment on Barry.

Random
- The last drive were they ran an impromptu play after reception with clock running, and 4 (?) WRs ran to the same basic location was sad, but they're young.
- The 2 TEs trying to block crosby
- Drops
- Both starting ILBs injured
- OL is too inconsistent. Generally, at least 1 guy is going to screw up bad enough to ruin the play.

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jlc1's picture

October 10, 2023 at 09:47 pm

I would just add that Love in previous games overthrew on his shots downfield alot, but not always (thinking of Reed laying out for one). Accuracy is, as MLF would say, 'is going to be looked at" and "is something we need to work on".

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Tekraut17's picture

October 10, 2023 at 03:02 pm

It's hard to throw to an open receiver when all the WR'ers are within ten yards of each other. I couldn't believe it. Either the play designs are crap or the guys are running the wrong routes. I believe that's why Musgraves was getting his azz chewed by MLF but it happened multiple times...one on a key late game 3rd down where the WR's were literally 5 feet from each other near the sideline.

Also, someone please tell Joe Barry that when the opponent is inside the ten yard line our safeties CANNOT line up in the end zone!!!! How many times is this going to happen??? Year after year, game after game.

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jlc1's picture

October 10, 2023 at 09:43 pm

Watson had to wait for the, as usual, underthrown ball from Love. He started from essentially a stand still. The defenders saw what was happening and got at least a step or two start down field. He also may not have chosen the best route to clear everyone.

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