Poppinga: Taysom Hill decision "absolutely embarrassing" for Packers

The Packers seem to have made it a habit of allowing talented players to walk out the door. 

Every time the New Orleans Saints play on national televison, Packers fans are treated to the exploits of Taysom Hill, who the Packers had in camp two years ago but ended up releasing on the final roster cut down. 

Last night during the Saints playoff win over the Philadelphia Eagles, Hill once again made a handful of key plays (one of which was negated by penalty) and Twitter did what it does, namely complain that the Packers had released Hill.

Former Packers linebacker Brady Poppinga cut to the chase. 

I don't think it's surprising that a Packers personnel guy would be defensive about the decision, and the idea that Mike McCarthy's staff would have used Hill anywhere near the way Sean Payton and company have is more than a little suspect. But Hill is clearly talented and unfortunately the Packers seemed to have made it a habit of allowing talented players to walk out the door. 

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

January 14, 2019 at 10:06 am

When I envision TT making roster decisions during his last few seasons, the image is similar to my grandparents trying to update their laptop.

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Bure9620's picture

January 14, 2019 at 10:15 am

Ad in open mouth.......

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croatpackfan's picture

January 15, 2019 at 06:56 am

Thank you. But I still knows how to update my laptop. To be honest I, probably, have much stronger machine in front of me than you and still using it with no problem.

Do not offend on older persons, because there is a lot of young people that can not even start the laptops w/o help...

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

January 15, 2019 at 11:05 am

I meant no offense, man.

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croatpackfan's picture

January 15, 2019 at 01:21 pm

Well, I suppose I'm older than you... I just wanted to put out that age means nothing.
I was not offended. I intentionally wrote little firmer, for my amusement...
Please, do not be angry on me. We do not agree on things sometimes, but my feelings towards you that you are OK!

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bigGuy's picture

January 14, 2019 at 10:23 am

But if he was on the Packers, he be inactive holding a clipboard. So it was best for him to be cut.

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Skip greenBayless's picture

January 14, 2019 at 12:19 pm

Agree bigGuy, I am glad Packers cut him. No way does the Packers or any other team for that matter other than NO use Taysom Hill the way he's been used as a 2nd or 3rd string qb. Name any other player in the league being used as Taysom Hill is? There is none. I absolutely loved Taysom Hill. Brought excitement every time he touched the ball in the preseason. If he was on the Packers he would be rotting away and the nation would not get to enjoy his unique skills and love for the game that we see with him on New Orleans. If there's a silver lining in this sad story it's this. The Packers did not want to make the same mistake a second time so as a result of Taysom Hill, they kept Tim Boyle this time as a third inactive. He's the better passer of the two but not a better runner. Boyle will help soften the pain of losing Taysom but not for another year or two. Patience.

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dobber's picture

January 14, 2019 at 12:53 pm

Agreed. We need to stop romanticizing Taysom Hill. Anyone who thinks his being on the roster would have made much, if any, difference in the last two seasons is overselling what he is and what the Packers would have done with him.

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Skip greenBayless's picture

January 14, 2019 at 01:21 pm

You almost have to say that God put Taysom Hill in the perfect place. He's one of my favorite players to watch and he hardly plays. So happy that Sean Payton saw a way to use this guys incredible skill set that enables him to get on the field in a limited fashion but to also be incredibly productive in those limited snaps he gets. He reminds me of a young Brett Favre if Favre were as fast and skilled as Taysom was. You can just see his love for the game. It's actually inspiring I feel proud that he was once a Packer but thank God we set this guy free. The nation now knows who he is and loves him as much as we loved him for his limited time in Green Bay. I'm caught now between rooting for Taysom in NO and Sam Shields in LA. I also want the Chiefs as I love Mahomes. Please no more Patriots. Go Chiefs.

Dash

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Samson's picture

January 14, 2019 at 01:35 pm

Dash as 'Drama King" -- please, you're pretty much posting to yourself & wasting bandwidth.

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packerbackerjim's picture

January 14, 2019 at 01:41 pm

I will say he is great at the QB sneak (tho who isn’t) and some short yardage plays. He tends not to get stoned as opposing defenses have done to Williams knowing full well he is going right up the gut. Short yardage has been a problem since Lacy was healthy.

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Jonathan Spader's picture

January 14, 2019 at 02:20 pm

The problem is Rodgers throwing bombs 20 years down the field for incompletions on 3rd and 1. We still have Williams as a 3rd down back. He can pick up short yardage of we gave him a chance. Hopefully that changes with MLF.

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packerbackerjim's picture

January 14, 2019 at 02:36 pm

He didn’t do so well against the Vikes. Don’t get me wrong, I like Williams but starting that deep away from the LOS is a distinct disadvantage.

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croatpackfan's picture

January 15, 2019 at 07:00 am

Well, I strongly believe Taysom Hill would do much better than Brett Hundley... And that Taysom is better than Brett...

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Leatherhead's picture

January 14, 2019 at 04:00 pm

It's not like he's the first good QB we let go. We released HOFer Kurt Warner.

The Big Guy is right...if he's just gonna hold a clipboard then what's the point?

I wanted Lamar Jackson in the draft. If McCarthy was an offensive genius, then why wouldn't you want to get the best offensive player in the draft on the same team as Aaron Rodgers? Find a way to put the ball in his hands. How hard can that be?

All of our eggs are in the Rodgers basket. By design.

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cheesehead1's picture

January 14, 2019 at 10:27 am

You’re right on Aaron. I and others said at the time that it was a mistake not to keep him. I know Kizer hasn’t had many opportunities yet, but I don’t think he’s the answer.

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TheVOR's picture

January 14, 2019 at 11:14 am

Kizer is horrible!

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Leatherhead's picture

January 14, 2019 at 04:02 pm

Is there one person. Just one. Who would say "If we had to start Kizer for 3 or 4 games, we'd be OK".?

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Lare's picture

January 14, 2019 at 04:16 pm

Kizer may be alright with decent coaching. I don't think he's had that yet in his young NFL career.

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Packerpasty's picture

January 14, 2019 at 11:34 am

Kizer?? Two teams now know he sucks as a QB, how much more does anyone need??

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dobber's picture

January 14, 2019 at 12:54 pm

You meant "32", right?

Although ML was his QB coach for part of his time in South Bend. Maybe he knows the right buttons to push to turn him into an adequate clipboard holder.

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Skip greenBayless's picture

January 14, 2019 at 01:07 pm

Kizer is an embarrassment on Gutey's deal making abilities. He got taken to the cleaners on this one. We get Kizer, a total bust and Cleveland gets a ball hawking starting safety in Damarious Randall who Dorsey and Wolf realized was simply playing the wrong position in GB. Again, the only thing that saves Gutey in this horrible one sided deal is Gutey found a needle in the haystack with the acquiring of free agent rookie phenom qb Tim Boyle. He will turn out to be Gutey's greatest pick in his career when it's all said and done. That's a good thing for people who don't understand me.

Dash

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Leatherhead's picture

January 14, 2019 at 04:19 pm

I don't see the Kizer-Randall exchange the way you do.

I think Randall was a source of discord among the players, and I'm sure we've all read the stories. Kizer was a pretty high draft pick, and we sure as hell needed a backup that wasn't Hundley. Neither player was going to do squat where they were and weren't part of the plan for the future.

I've spoken before that I just saw too many examples of Randall not making a tackle because he "slipped". Let's be generous here and say he kind of lacks courage in run support. Even in Cleveland he gets 4 tackles or less. He covers OK but he's not a physical defender.

So we exchanged rejects as a favor to each other. It would have been nice to get an actual player for Randall but I'm just glad that he's gone, frankly.

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Skip greenBayless's picture

January 14, 2019 at 11:34 pm

We disagree on this one no doubt. Randall is far from a "reject" in my opinion. The guy had a very productive season as Cleveland's starting strong safety. 13 passes defensed, 4 int's and 72 tackles. He would have been as asset on the field this season. Randall has always been one of the top playmakers in every season he played. 14 int's in 4 years is positive consistent production. Kizer offered absolutely nothing other than hope. Well that ran out when he actually played in that final game. Now hope is gone and so should Kizer.

Dash

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Leatherhead's picture

January 14, 2019 at 10:31 am

Y'all DO realize, don't you, that Thompson wasn't making any of these decisions in a vacuum? It's not like he was some deranged Emperor issuing edicts. Other people were offering imput, too.

The Taysom Hill thing is a classic example of how difficult it is to upgrade the backup QB spot when you have a megastar starting QB.

The backup, let alone the #3 guy, gets almost no reps with the first unit. No game action. And virtually all the film you have of him is playing with scrubs against scrubs.

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TheBigCheeze's picture

January 14, 2019 at 10:52 am

"Other people were offering imput, too."-----------yeah.....like the fans......who said to keep Hill.....

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Demon's picture

January 14, 2019 at 11:12 am

Oh ok old school. Then explain how its happened in New Orleans. Last time i checked D Brees was better than an average QB.

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Leatherhead's picture

January 14, 2019 at 12:09 pm

New Orleans decided to do something other teams don't, i.e. give game snaps to the #2. Baltimore did it too.

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dobber's picture

January 14, 2019 at 12:58 pm

Not snaps based on his ability as a QB, but rather on his abilities as an athlete. Plenty of teams split their QBs out wide and let other players take a snap or two. Hill threw 7 passes this year...completed 3...threw one pick.

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Jonathan Spader's picture

January 14, 2019 at 02:23 pm

He threw a TD pass in the playoff game Dobber. Not his fault it was negated because the refs prefer the Eagles to the Saints. His throw was a tight spiral right on the money and he's a threat to run as well. The best part is the smile on Hill reminds me of Donald Driver.

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Skip greenBayless's picture

January 14, 2019 at 02:52 pm

Spader, was that td pass by Hill exciting or what? He would have been the talk of the town today if those damn refs don't call a holding on that call. I have a feeling he'll be used a little more against the Rams. He was a legit weapon out there yesterday. You never know what they are going to do with him on any particular play. Payton's multi-use of him is brilliant and unprecedented. The legend of Taysom Hill continues to grow. Exciting times ahead.

Dash

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Christopher Gennaro's picture

January 14, 2019 at 02:40 pm

Beat me too it, yeah that Brees guy, average so average. The whole making decisions in a vacuum comment. While you are right to a certain extent, TT had the final say, did he not?

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Coldworld's picture

January 14, 2019 at 10:40 am

This was the Russ Ball dominated tail end of the TT era. It seems so obvious that Ball did tremendous damage to our roster yet he remains integral to the hirings on the football side. This is one of the reasons why Murphy, who allegedly wanted Ball as GM, needs to move on. Imagine our chances with Ball in full roster control had that gone through.

I also point out that Hill has not been used as a true QB, but as a trick play maker and primarily as a special teamer. Rodgers presence or otherwise has nothing to do with that: in this case the Saints simply had better talent evaluation and imagination in terms of how to exploit his unusual talent set. Hopefully the latter will change under LaFleur, but I worry about the former with Ball & Murphy still dabbling in the GM sphere.

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Jonathan Spader's picture

January 14, 2019 at 10:40 am

As disappointed as I was when the Packers cut him it has been a lot of fun watching Sean Payton use him creatively with the Saints. I completely agree with Nagler who honestly thinks MM would have had him do anything other than riding the bench?

Edit: Would Zook have known how to use him on ST?

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Coldworld's picture

January 14, 2019 at 10:44 am

Can not argue with that.

Response to your edit: leaving sarcasm aside, the question your point raised in my mind was would Zook have been allowed to even if he could? My gut reaction is no.

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dobber's picture

January 14, 2019 at 12:58 pm

Zook could teach anyone to hold or block in the back.

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Demon's picture

January 16, 2019 at 12:51 pm

Does anyone believe now that MM is as good of or better coach as Payton?

The T Hill thing aside, Payton has his team on the verge of another super bowl. MM is out of work, and in a season where there are 8 coaching vacancies only had 1 interview. Of which he didnt get the job.

That right there sums it up. Seems to me ive read here several times that MM would have another job before he had his office cleaned out.

"Highly successful head coach" pfft clown!

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Oppy's picture

January 14, 2019 at 07:02 pm

MM said from the beginning he was only interested in the Jets, so trying to make it out like only having one interview is a slight against him as a desireable coach doesn't really work.
He didn't get the job, sure, but then, maybe it was MM who decided not to take the job. Jason La Confora reported that it was staffing issues that ultimately ended the discussions with MM; noting that his interview with ownership went well. Confora also mentions that Baylor coach Rhule pulled himself out of the running as well, also due to staffing issues- Rhule was given a list of suggested staffing candidates and decided that's not how he wanted to run his staff (not having full control of who he would hire.) That's a college coach who only had one year of NFL coaching experience (as an assistant OL coach) who walked away from a NFL head coaching job because of how the front office wanted him to construct his staff... I'd say it is reasonable to think that perhaps MM also walked away from that role.

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Flow49's picture

January 15, 2019 at 12:45 am

Saints since 2009: Four 7-9 seasons, 1 Super Bowl win, 5 playoff wins, 2 NFC Championship game appearances

Packers since 2009: 2 seasons below .500, 1 Super Bowl win, 3 NFC championship game appearances (1 win), 8 playoff wins

Seems like MM stacks up pretty well vs Payton

Still think it was time for Mike to move on but let’s use some objectivity here

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croatpackfan's picture

January 15, 2019 at 07:05 am

Only clown here is you. When you'll have Mike McCarthy record in real NFL I will respect your assessment. Otherwise you are what you wrote - clown!

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Demon's picture

January 15, 2019 at 09:41 pm

Easy there Borat,, your english suffers when you get excited.

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Lare's picture

January 14, 2019 at 10:45 am

On the bright side, I think they made the right decision in releasing Brady Poppinga when they did.

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Lphill's picture

January 14, 2019 at 10:47 am

Hill didn't fit in with the Packers style of old school football, but he certainly fits in with today's football. the Packers don' t use motion or trickery but the other 31 teams do.

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Leatherhead's picture

January 14, 2019 at 12:10 pm

But we did get more yards and points than half of the other, trickier teams.

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JimR_in_SoCal's picture

January 14, 2019 at 12:22 pm

Not in 2018.

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Leatherhead's picture

January 14, 2019 at 04:23 pm

In 2018, according to the NFL, the Packers were 12th in yards and 15th in points. Better than half.

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Razer's picture

January 14, 2019 at 10:50 am

Keeping guys on the roster who cannot perform at an NFL level in their position is just bad business. Injuries are inevitable and having depth is essential. Keeping Hundley over Hill was a total mistake. Keeping Kizer (if he can't play) may be another mistake. McCarthy and his coaches misjudged what they had and Thompson and their bunch were no better. Find a guy who can play - period.

I am disappointed that we are debating these organizational miscues. We are starting to sound like all those teams that we used to think of as disfunctional.

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Rebecca's picture

January 15, 2019 at 07:52 pm

Ah... some sense entered the discussion. Thank you Razer.

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zeke's picture

January 14, 2019 at 10:52 am

Not keeping the backup QB so he could develop into the cool special teams gadget guy is far down on the list of significant personnel screw-ups from the past few years, but that’s just me.

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TheBigCheeze's picture

January 14, 2019 at 10:59 am

....the point is that it's part of a disturbing pattern......

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Lare's picture

January 14, 2019 at 11:03 am

Yeah, I still can't believe they got rid of Jeff Janis.

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dobber's picture

January 14, 2019 at 12:59 pm

Could he play QB?

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zeke's picture

January 15, 2019 at 12:03 am

I don’t know. Maybe. But I know Casey Hayward can play CB and If I were going to use the term “absolutely embarrassing” when describing a personnel move I’d likely save it for that one.

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Demon's picture

January 14, 2019 at 11:14 am

Heres a question, why has no member of the media asked Ted Thompson of Mike McCarthy what happened?

Over the last few years theres been way too many good players walk out the door. I dont need to name them we all know who they are. T Hill was just the latest example.

I dont know whats worse, T Thompson not being able to find good players, or in the rare event he did watching them walk out the door because the coaching staff didnt know what they had.

Like i said once before, the TT and MM regeim was the perfect storm of futility.

I dont ever want to hear anyone say MM was a " very good coach" again. Or how good TT was. Disgusting!

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Chuck_Cecil's picture

January 14, 2019 at 01:14 pm

After 2012, Ted Thompson never cared enough to explain any of his bad decisions. We will never know if he would have explained good decisions because he stopped making them.

Mark Murphy was complicit in the incompetence when he said Ted will be GM as long as he wants to be. He was just completely negligent of his responsibility to oversee the Packers.

Mike McCarthy "stopped grinding" after 2016. He not only had to deal with Ted's failures on the practice field; he was also left to explain Ted's inexplicable moves. On one hand, I understand his unwillingness to throw his ailing boss under the bus, but his failure to shake the front office out of complacency cost us two good years of Aaron Rodgers so far. Lord knows how long it will take to climb out of this hole.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

January 14, 2019 at 02:56 pm

WT,
Totally agree!

MM became arrogant and set in his ways. Zero creativity! Zero ability to identify talent. How many examples do we need to discuss besides Hill and let's say at RB. No wonder AR was not happy and yet fans have taken Rodgers to task. I think as more and more comes out about MM you are going to find he is going to have a very difficult time finding HC work.

Once the Schniders, Dorsey, McKenzies, the Hightowers left GP the TT machine fell apart exposing the TT fascade.

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Packer fan in SWIN's picture

January 14, 2019 at 11:13 am

Put simply the Packers brain trust selected Brett Hundley over T. Hill. MM had "developed" Hundley. Classic sunk cost argument. Not that a ST gadget player on the Saints is worthy of much hamd wringing but the issue is the Packers ability or inability to evaluate talent.

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Razer's picture

January 14, 2019 at 12:29 pm

...Not that a ST gadget player on the Saints is worthy of much hand wringing but the issue is the Packers ability or inability to evaluate talent...

Well said and exactly the point that needs to be made.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

January 14, 2019 at 03:44 pm

The thing is everyone but the Packer FO apparently could see Hill had a better arm, ran better, and was a better athlete than Hundley. It was as clear as it could possibly be. Everytime Hill played in pre-season his attributes jumped off the page.

Some of you are missing the point on Hill. It isnt about a special teams player though Hill has the potential to be a very good starting QB after Drew's retirement. It is the fact the whole Packer organization missed on Hill. That is irresponsible and unacceptable! This same BS happened multiple times with other talented players during that 2 to 3 year window.

It is clear things were seriously wrong in Green Bay and Murphy was told to get involved. Be interesting to know exactly what was going on.

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Oppy's picture

January 14, 2019 at 07:07 pm

I'm pretty sure the Packers were up on Taysom Hill as a developmental project. I think the miscalculation was only that someone believed they could slip Hill past waivers and sign him to the Practice Squad.

They couldn't.

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croatpackfan's picture

January 15, 2019 at 07:15 am

Oppy, haters will hate whatever you say.

There is no reason or fact they will listen. Their opinion is the only valid.

So, do not bother yourself. It's no use.

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Packer_Fan's picture

January 14, 2019 at 11:19 am

TT and MM made so many bad decisions. TT list his edge for talent decisions. MM lost his edge for offensive schemes and player control. Can't reverse those decisions. Start new and they are.

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Leatherhead's picture

January 14, 2019 at 12:13 pm

Yeah. Kind of amazing that with all those bad decisions and a general lack of talent and bad coaching that we went to the Championship game 4 times in 10years.

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Demon's picture

January 14, 2019 at 12:34 pm

And won how many? Got their ass handed to them how many times? I suppose you were satisfied with the effort level and play calling in the 2nd half of the 2014 NFC title game. I wasnt!

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January 14, 2019 at 04:27 pm

I think that in a 10 year period, to win a Super Bowl, make the Championship game 4 times, have a franchise best record of 15-1.....yeah, that's pretty good.

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croatpackfan's picture

January 15, 2019 at 07:19 am

I'm sure White tornado would be better than either TT or MM. He is so sure in everything what he do not knows, what is so amazing...

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Johnblood27's picture

January 15, 2019 at 01:22 pm

Context gentlemen, context...

Not all the bad was on MM and TT, likewise all the good was not solely due to their individual efforts.

More of the poor decisions/performance does fall on MM/TT than the few performance issues exhibited by players/circumstances beyond their control.

As one rises in their career, you no longer get paid for what you do, you get paid for what you take responsibility for and you do not have the luxury of dropping the blame for poor results on those you are responsible for.

MM/TT have gotten exactly what they deserved, and deservedly so.

Just like under-performing players have gotten theirs - released, traded, criticized. And over-performing players have gotten theirs, contract extensions, fame, etc.

Was everything they (MM/TT) did bad? Of course not.

Did they get, or are they getting, unfair criticism and blame? No, they made their beds hard and they are now lying in them.

NFL = Not For Long... it is a performance based business/league.

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Demon's picture

January 15, 2019 at 08:45 pm

Croat.....Well I dont know that I would be better, but I know that I would be better than you. Why are you here anyway? You know nothing about football, thats been proven.

Isnt there a blog for things you might something about? Like goat milking?

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Skip greenBayless's picture

January 15, 2019 at 08:58 pm

Citizen's arrest!! Citizen's arrest!!

Sincerely,

Gomer Pyle

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Demon's picture

January 15, 2019 at 08:48 pm

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4zone's picture

January 14, 2019 at 11:21 am

Wonder if Randall's and Montgomery's beefs were the 'complacency' that had crept into the Packer Organization and had the integrity to speak up instead of sweep it under the carpet? I guess we'll never know the facts on that one, at least from anyone inside 1265.

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Demon's picture

January 14, 2019 at 12:02 pm

Im not sure that complacency is the correct word. I would say that incompetence is more fitting. Or even laziness.

Did MM actually believe that Capers was a good coach? Or Zook? If so, incompetence is the correct word. If he knew they were garbage like most everyone did, laziness seems like the best word to describe MM.

To me, Heyward and Hyde were the worst and most damaging personnel decisions. When in Green Bay really they were just guys. As soon as they leave instant allpros.

Thats not on the polar bear Thats 100 % on the horseshit coaching staff.

Even though MM was primarily a offensive coach, he observed practice or was supposed to. The Pack had those 2 guys 4 years and didnt know what they had. So now ask yourself, what was MM doing while this was going on?

All I can envision is MM sitting on a golf cart during training camp with a 24 piece bucket of the Colonels original recipe and a napkin tucked into his shirt. "Yeah Dom, things look good from where I sit ..... keep up the good work buddy."

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

January 14, 2019 at 03:49 pm

White,
Plus, throw in things like....really...you cannot tell Jones is a difference maker at RB? For crimminy sake Rodgers knew it immediately and went on record about Jones during his rookie training camp.

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4zone's picture

January 14, 2019 at 11:22 am

As for TT, his draft and develop turned into the farm team for the rest of the NFL. Draft, develop then let go or trade. Save all your money for your 'all world' QB.

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Qoojo's picture

January 14, 2019 at 11:33 am

No one would be talking about Hill today because MM would have buried Hill at the end of the bench.

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dblbogey's picture

January 14, 2019 at 12:40 pm

I believe we would have won zero more games this year had we kept Hill.

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pooch's picture

January 14, 2019 at 02:39 pm

Might have used him last year though instead of Hundley

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Slim11's picture

January 14, 2019 at 04:45 pm

I disagree.

Look at how MM "handled" QB Joe Callahan in 2017. Hundley wasn't what MM wanted him to be yet gave him the majority of the snaps in the '17 finale against the Lions. Callahan got a few garbage snaps. IMO, Hill would have gotten the same.

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croatpackfan's picture

January 15, 2019 at 07:23 am

You can not put Taysom Hill and Joe Callahan in same sentence. It is as you claim Blake Bortles is at the same level as Aaron Rodgers...

I can not believe how hatred can produce silly arguments...

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January 14, 2019 at 03:50 pm

You mean because MM was unable to recognize his talents and Zook wouldn't have had any idea how to use him?

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nostradanus's picture

January 14, 2019 at 12:11 pm

Why even torture yourselves on this one, we all know it was a BIG mistake and McCarthy wasn’t going to use him that way anyhow.

Moooooove on, nothing to see here!

That is all.....

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MikeS's picture

January 14, 2019 at 01:34 pm

The failure to keep Hill is not so much an embarrassment to the Packers, as it is to TED THOMPSON. This is just another example of why he should have been gone after 2014.

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Pack_Fan_Forever's picture

January 14, 2019 at 01:36 pm

I said it before and I’ll say it again. Many many of the moves the packers have made in the last three years have been an embarrassment. This is just one example. Everybody knows what I’m talking about. It just goes on and on. But who’s watch did all this all happen under? You guessed it, the guy who has placed himself the top of the pyramid, Mark Murphy. Everybody knew that TT was a dead man walking for years at the end, but Murphy did nothing about it until it was too late. Then when it became clear that Mccarthy had lost his touch and they didn’t have the confidence in giving him a long term extension, they threw him a bone by giving him a one-year extension through 2019. That was a very expensive bone. A complete waste of $9 million. Can you imagine if you made a $9 million mistake at your place of work? Would you still have your job? Why did Murphy give McCarthy that one year extension? Were they afraid if he coached without an extension he would be too blue to do a good job? Were they thinking he might leave Green Bay at the end of the year, assuming he actually had a good year and they wanted him back? I don’t think so. His family is well established in the area. He was not going anywhere. Basically, the Packers wasted $9 million and that was a choice made by Mr. Murphy. From what I understand, the Vikings are not making the same mistake. They are not so sure about Zimmer so they’re gonna let him coach his final contract year without an extension. Why didn’t Murphy do that here with McCarthy? Would’ve saved $9 million.Murphy is great at building sledding hills, but not so good at managing a football operation. And of course he’s annointes himself as the king over both coach and GM now, unlike the solution that Bob Harlan had found back in 1992 that worked so wonderfully until Murphy decided to change it. We’ve jettisoned our GM and our head coach. How about the president? Why does he get a free pass for all of his bungling? Of course, who is going to can him? The executive committee? I don’t think there’s a lot of type A personalities there.

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Demon's picture

January 14, 2019 at 03:36 pm

Just fyi pack fan i gave you a thumbs up. Seems theres a few on here who dont like the truth.

Ill say the same for dpweiner below.

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dpwiener's picture

January 14, 2019 at 01:54 pm

Cutting Taysom Hill was a huge mistake, but I'm glad it happened. It would have been so wasteful to have kept him as a third string quarterback who would never have seen a snap even while Hundley and Kizer stunk things up. Instead, we get to see Hill play brilliantly in all kinds of different situations and positions, in ways that McCarthy would never have dreamed of using him. Hill makes watching football much more enjoyable.

The Saints have found a unique solution to the problem of developing a successor to an elite quarterback who may still be playing for several more years. They've found lots of ways to involve Hill, so that his skills improve instead of rotting from disuse, and so that he isn't disgruntled and anxious to move on to another team when his contract runs out. I fully expect that the Saints will smoothly transition to Hill as their #1 quarterback when Drew Brees retires.

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albert999's picture

January 14, 2019 at 01:41 pm

They’re gone...new coaches
New start. New era
Now clean some dead weight players out
GO PACK

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CAG123's picture

January 14, 2019 at 02:02 pm

I was so annoyed when they let him go but then I realized MM doesn’t have the creativity or guts to deploy him the way the Saints do anyway so I was glad his potential was realized some where else.

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Demon's picture

January 14, 2019 at 03:14 pm

Or intelligence

Did anyone notice how Hills pad level was?

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Wilment's picture

January 14, 2019 at 02:30 pm

There are a boatload of names that come to mind that the Packers let go that went on to shine elsewhere....but lets not dwell on that. Ted is gone. Mike is gone. Hell, half the brass in the front office is now gone. Judge the team on what they do going forward, not what a bunch of guys that are gone did. GO PACK!!

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LeotisHarris's picture

January 14, 2019 at 02:41 pm

How quickly all of you forget, and still refuse to honor, the legacy of Fightin' Joe Callahan. Had the Packers kept Hill we all would have been deprived of watching Fightin' Joe, um, well, do whatever Fightin' Joe did to become the legend he is in Green Bay.

Poppinga popped out of the womb talking and hasn't stopped since. This is just another feeble attempt on his part to sing the praises of his fellow BYU Cougar, and maybe sell a few more of his fitness blades. The man is desperate, I tell you. Desperate!

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Lare's picture

January 14, 2019 at 04:33 pm

People seem to be getting pretty worked up over a tweet from an ex-player here 9-years ago that has no clue what he's talking about.

What's next, Tony Mandarich telling us that the Packers should re-sign Byron Bell?

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Skip greenBayless's picture

January 14, 2019 at 05:03 pm

That's because Aaron Nagler is one smart cookie Lare and you are not. He knows what sells and what doesn't. I wish there were more topics like this. Little small tid bits like this can create a lot of talk. Nagler knows everyone loves Taysom Hill so anything about him will sell. Sam Shields and his two year struggle with concussions would be a good topic too. Everybody loves Sam. Kumerow is another. He gets a hair cut or shaves his beard and I guarantee you it generates 300 plus comments. I like talking about things like this sometimes over the 100 articles about LeFleur or the draft. They get boring after a while. Nagler hit the jackpot by posting a simple tweet by Poppinga. I could talk all day about Taysom Hill. I can talk very little about LaFleur. Boooooring.

Dash

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Lare's picture

January 14, 2019 at 06:32 pm

Yeah, you're right Rash. You Vikings trolls are a lot smarter than us Packers fans.

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LeotisHarris's picture

January 14, 2019 at 09:07 pm

Dash, no need for the attacks on Lare. Stop it.

I'll agree with you on some of the click bait-type articles here. Taysom gets a reaction, for sure. For the most part on CHTV we're dealing with opinion pieces, or bare bones expansions of stories written by others; Demovsky or Silverstein. There are exceptions, of course, like the work Andrew Herman puts into his articles.

So, sure, I'd love to see update pieces on Shields, Raji, Finley, etc. Or how about taking a look at that massive Packers Board of Directors, a who's who and how they got to be on the Board? I also enjoy the lighter-hearted offerings from Nagler. He's a good guy.

I also appreciate the thought many here put into their posts. It's a forum where, for the most part, keyboard warriors and internet tough guys are outnumbered by decent human beings.

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Skip greenBayless's picture

January 14, 2019 at 09:47 pm

By Lare:

People seem to be getting pretty worked up over a tweet from an ex-player here 9-years ago that has no clue what he's talking about."

Ah Leotis, your little buddy Honest Lare just personally attacked one of my favorite football players Brady Poppinga basically calling him an idiot saying he "has no clue what he's talking about". So yeah, Leotis he was deserving of getting it back at him for attacking not only Poppinga but also Aaron Nagler who knows more about sales and marketing than Lare could ever dream of.

One other thing. I also did this as a test. I wanted to see if Rash Diprock would make his appearance after a small little attack on Honest Lare. Sure enough, 5:02 posted this and 5:47 guess who makes his appearance again after missing a few days. Why it's Rash Diprock. Who then comes on 45 minutes later at 6:32? Why it's Lare. 45 minute intervals between each other. Pretty consistent pattern. Yeah, Honest Lare has you all fooled. I am getting tired of getting attacked here for simply having an opinion that is maybe different than others.

Dash

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Johnblood27's picture

January 15, 2019 at 03:39 pm

Is that john kirk over there on that other interweb board?

There!...

Over there...

Go get him!...

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Oppy's picture

January 14, 2019 at 07:10 pm

Brady Poppinga has a lot of clues about what he's talking about.
He's been covering the NFL for a living since he retired from his playing days. Sure, he covers the NFL in spanish, but none the less.. Covering the NFL is his job.

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LeotisHarris's picture

January 14, 2019 at 09:42 pm

"Sure he covers the NFL in spanish, but none the less.."

Oppy, how may languages do you speak? My understanding is Poppinga used his Mormon mission time to become fluent is Spanish, which later helped him land his NFL gig with espn deportes. I don't think covering the NFL in Spanish is a step down from anything.

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Oppy's picture

January 14, 2019 at 11:48 pm

I don't either, just heading off the inevitable counter point someone may attempt to use to discredit Poppinga.

I think he's great. Energetic, entertaining, and he is 100% all about football.

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alforno54's picture

January 14, 2019 at 05:26 pm

Gotta stop letting all these Hall Of Famers go

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alforno54's picture

January 14, 2019 at 05:26 pm

Gotta stop letting all these Hall Of Famers go

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Irish_Cheesehead's picture

January 14, 2019 at 08:46 pm

Time to get over Taysom Hill. He's a bit player in New Orleans. Decent player, but no great loss. Just don't get me started on taking Mandarich over Sanders in '89. Sanders and Favre...

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CheeseHeadz's picture

January 15, 2019 at 11:46 am

This is a very stupid article. Sometimes players get cut and go on to another team and perform well. In some cases it happens and in some cases it does not. Its FN Football people.. come on!

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Packinit12's picture

January 15, 2019 at 04:50 pm

Sometimes you gotta wonder what went on in the mind of TT and his charges over the last few years. Clearly his visionary prowess took a dump! One only has to look at the success found elsewhere with the likes of Hyde, Hayward, Cook, Randall and Hill and then wonder how 2018 might have been had they all stuck around.

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marpag1's picture

January 17, 2019 at 12:54 pm

Hill is massively overrated. He's a nice special teamer, and not much else... which makes him kind of a QB version of Jeff Janis.

Here's Hill's career stat line on offense (which is identical to his 2018 stat line).

As a passer, he is 3 of 7 (43%) for 64 yards, with 0 TDs, 1 INT, 1 sack and 1 lost fumble. As a rusher, he carried 37 times for 196 yards and 2 TDs... which means that he is virtually identical to ARod as a runner.

He's a nice special teamer. But there is nothing in his offensive game that even comes close to warranting the hype. He's not a heck of a lot different than Houston QB Joe Webb, who is also a nice special teamer, and can run a little bit if you stick him in the wildcat. But how many people are raving about Joe Webb?

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Office@twitterrealityshow.com's picture

January 18, 2019 at 11:49 am

Winning
1) Dominant SAFETY
e. g. Earl Thomas or
Derwin James

2) Dominant LINEBACKER
e. g. Leyton Vander esch

3) Dominant OFFENSIVE speed threat
e. g. Taysom Hill or Tyreek Hill

4) Dominant DEFENSIVE rusher
e. g. Khalil Mack

Brian Gutekunst(GB GM) missed on all except Tyreek

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January 19, 2019 at 08:34 pm

Thompson screwed up big time cutting the guy for we needed a QB. But McCarthy would never have had the vision to use Hill as Payton has. That is why MM had to be put out to pasture.

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