Packers trade CB Ka'Dar Hollman to Houston Texans

The third year cornerback played in 14 games with one start in 2020.

The Houston Texans apparently liked what they saw from (now former) Packers cornerback Ka'Dar Hollman when the two teams faced off in their preseason contest last week. 

 

No word yet on what the Packers are getting in return, but we'll add to this post as soon as the info is available. 

(Update: The Packers get a 7th round pick in 2022)

The third year pro and former sixth round pick played in 14 games with one start in 2020, registering eight tackles (seven solo) and three passes defensed on defense and two tackles on special teams. 

 

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wildbill's picture

August 23, 2021 at 04:01 pm

Nice that, apparently, we received some value for a player that looked to be a cut candidate. Not sure if he was eligible for the PS but depending on what we got I would have liked him on the PS. That being said it looks like our DB group will be an upgrade from last year, devoid of any major injuries.

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Horrible4's picture

August 23, 2021 at 04:19 pm

Love this move. Packers would have won at least 4 more super bowls last decade if they just made moves similar in value to this one. This team is so good at finding value and making the smart moves but never attempt to do anything when it matters. They do one amazing thing and then make a questionable move to set them back to square one.

Examples: we got a 7th round pick for an obvious roster cut 6th round pick, but we're going to start Kevin King week 1. We're going to draft Kylin Hill in the 7th round who is basically just a more athletic and better pass catching version of Aaron Jones (and could give you 95% of what Aaron Jones gives you week 1), but we're going to pay Aaron Jones and let all-pro Corey Linsley leave. We're going to draft a perfect compliment runningback to Aaron Jones in the 2nd round (AJ Dillon) but we're not going to use him at all.

This team is so conservative and afraid to win it amazes me we've gotten so close to the NFC Championship in years past.

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Crockett3663's picture

August 23, 2021 at 05:15 pm

Feel free to jump off the bandwagon any time

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mbpacker's picture

August 23, 2021 at 05:41 pm

Heard the Bears need more fans!

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Horrible4's picture

August 23, 2021 at 08:35 pm

Not a bandwagon, my criticism is entirely valid.

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croatpackfan's picture

August 24, 2021 at 02:36 am

Horrible4, your comment is just what your name says - HORRIBLE on the 4th.

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JerseyAl's picture

August 23, 2021 at 06:30 pm

Well, your takes fit your screen name, anyway...

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Horrible4's picture

August 23, 2021 at 09:15 pm

At least I have a real rebuttal ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Oppy's picture

August 23, 2021 at 06:49 pm

Hey, Horrible4:

Aaron Jones was ranked #30 in the 2021 NFL's top 100 players list, voted on by his peers across the league.

So tell me more about how a 7th round pick is "Basically just a more athletic and better pass catching version of Aaron Jones" who "could give you 95% of what Aaron Jones gives you week 1.".

Tell me all about it.

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Horrible4's picture

August 23, 2021 at 08:40 pm

Kylin Hill would have been drafted way higher had it not been a covid season. The same people that called that Aaron Jones a steal in the 5th round are the same people that are calling Kylin Hill a steal in the 7th round. Runningback is the easiest position to scout and replace in the NFL, just because the Packers have been bad at it over the last 20 years doesn't make that statement false.

Obviously it will take him a minute to get up to speed, but I'm confident Kylin Hill would be an immediate producer behind this offensive line. Meanwhile, how do you expect Aaron Jones to top his 2019 or 2020 season production without an all-pro center to pivot around? That kind of center production is 100x more difficult to replace than runningback, that's just a fact.

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porupack's picture

August 24, 2021 at 05:43 am

hahaha, like you're really smart in hindsight. Another, "if only" GM. hahahaha. Everybody else knows the packers pretty much "went all in" this year, banking on core offense that gelled in 2020 and took its lumps and has the experience to get to the SB, but you want to toggle with the key pieces. I get Corey Lindsley, and seeing him depart was tough. But we could apply the same criticiism if you had your way, gambling with the #1 all purpose clutch outlet? Maybe that would have been the last straw for Aaron Rodgers not to come back, and you would have been the ultimate GM loser of all time. Geez, take on a new persona, it can be more rewarding. I can see you as a fund investor, pulling out your highest dividend investment, and gambling on a new fund. Yeah, it might pay, and so might Vegas.

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Oppy's picture

August 24, 2021 at 09:51 am

"Immediate Producer behind this line" and "95% of what aaron jones is" are two different things.

Let me say it again, Jones was ranked as the 4th best RB in the league and the 30th best PLAYER in the league this year by his peers.

If you think it's "easy" to scout and replace that type of player, you're crazy.

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jannes bjornson's picture

August 23, 2021 at 09:05 pm

A Tale of two personalities....

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Oppy's picture

August 24, 2021 at 09:51 am

..Go on, I'm listening.

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Thegravedigger's picture

August 23, 2021 at 07:09 pm

interesting take, but i dont know if trading guys like hollman for 7th rounders wins superbowls bro. and they did this with reggie gilbert. same exact move. im sure theyve done this shit before too. they took a chance on jones. if they were being conservative they wouldve cut the rb. thats the conservative move, dont pay the rb. they chose to pay the rb so they can win right now... and then they drafted a center because linsley is getting older. they let bulaga walk, and he barely played last year. o lineman at linsleys age break down. and centers are replaceable. so are rbs yes but jones is younger and more dynamic than what kylin hill would be with aj dillon. if you think kylin hill is 95 percent of aaron jones from week 1 on your reaching. aaron jones scored 19 tds year before last. hes a dynamic legit all star rb. kylin hill the 7th round pick is not going to give u 95 percent of aaron jones. he can give you 75 percent maybe on a good week, but not week one. and who says were not using aj dillon? they are going to pound that man i promise you. especiallly when it gets colder. and kylin hill will get his chances. rbs get hurt, it happens. they dont play full seasons. they are conservative you are right. but your points are mostly nonsense.

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Horrible4's picture

August 23, 2021 at 09:01 pm

I'm not saying that is a super bowl winning move, the point is that the Packers wait too long to make moves and have no choice but to make trades like these from scrap. They're bottom of the barrel moves for sure and they're getting something out of nothing which is good, but the point is that they don't make moves when they matter. They ignore free agency, they draft for the future, they pay runningbacks because they don't know if they can replace his production and let all-pro players leave, they don't make splashy trades. All conservatives moves, all consistent with a team that doesn't want to win.

The thing with Aaron Jones is the Packers have been bad at getting runningback production since Ahman Green. A lot of that has to do with coaching, but it doesn't detract from the fact that runningback is the most easily scoutable and replaceable position in the game. Any advanced analytics guy would tell you 70 to 80% of rushing production comes from your offensive line, I have no issue thinking Kylin Hill would be an immediate homerunner hitter in this offensive scheme behind that offensive line.

Corey Linsley was an all-pro player, it is entirely false that offensive linemen breakdown at that age. The best offensive linemen in the game can play well into their mid-30s at a high level. Trent Williams at 33 years old became the highest paid tackle in the league, because that kind of offensive line consistency is incredibly hard to replace even if he's out 3 or 4 games a year. The case with Bulaga is he never played a full season healthy and wasn't an all-pro player so it made way more sense to release him when you have swing tackles.

I disagree that centers are replaceable, aside from Frank Ragnow, nobody came close to Corey Linsley's offensive production last season. There's maybe only 3 other centers that are as good as Linsley right now and the rest are average or middling.

The issue is the Packers make it look easy being able to plug any offensive linemen in and they immediately look good. On the other side, the Packers have struggled to find runningbacks to produce, creating a skewed perspective in the fanbase that is contrary to how the rest of the league has been running for the last 20 seasons.

The last thing is I was referring to AJ Dillon in 2020, there's no doubt AJ Dillon will be used a lot this season, the problem is they drafted him highly and barely used him at all in a win-now window. If your counter-point to that is they wanted to save him for this season and have a plan for Jamaal Williams then my argument is all valid: this team is conservative and doesn't try to win.

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croatpackfan's picture

August 24, 2021 at 03:03 am

Oh, there is so many false positive claims you are writing because you are looking just one or 2 facts about player(s). Cory Linsley already had 2 years in the row problem with his back, one of the most important part on the body for the center position. It is what it is. We do not know how bad is his back and what is his prognosis for the future, but it might not be good. He may have 1 year or more playing in the top level, but there is wise notice: "better to let player go one year early than 1 year late!"

Regarding RBs. I think you forget that the force produce by hitting the player is much higher in NFL than it is in college football, so for the position that lives of hitting and surviving that hits you have to adapt body, so body can sustain that hits without injuries. For that you need at least one year of playing limited snaps in the games. That is only one other fact you did not take in consideration. Of course that some individuals take hits better than others, but when you draft RB (AJ Dillon) in the second round, you do not want to expose him for unnecessary injuries which can cut or influence on his career. Do not forget that the most injured position is RB position.

We can all agree that Hill showed lot of promise and expectation is high, but you must never judge pre season and camp performance as 100% sure to be translated to the field in real game. It may, it may not.

Also, I'm sure that Packers OL is settled for season. They have 3 similar players (Lucas, Jack and Royce) and they just want to pick up the best option for the start of the season. Or maybe for whole season. Because long injuries like one David had can be the injury which will influence his game a lot. That is why David, despite if he will be able to start will not start until everything is settled down, so he can continue to play on the high level.

On the other hand, you are so sure in your assessments that it is miracle that you are not employee of any NFL franchise (32 of them), maybe even as GM.

Calm down, be less Horrible

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porupack's picture

August 24, 2021 at 05:51 am

Perfect, Croat! "Calm down and be less Horrible". Well timed!

And this, your line can be quoted for years ahead when fans make their proclamations during Preseason. <<<< but you must never judge pre season and camp performance ...... It may, it may not.>>>>>>
Gold from Croatia

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Horrible4's picture

August 24, 2021 at 03:21 pm

Wait wait wait, so you're quick to release an all-pro center because you're concerned about back problems that rarely flared up, but will freely admit RB is the most injury prone position?

"better to let player go one year early than 1 year late!"

And runningbacks are prone to breaking down after their first contract, your statements are completely contradictory here.

Again, runningback is the most easily scoutable and replaceable position. It's not difficult to measure a runningbacks talent over the course of 3 college games, if it is for you then maybe you shouldn't be the one criticizing my analysis because I actually watched him play in college.

I have no doubt the Packers offensive line will stop be top 10 in the league and still be productive, it just doesn't make sense to pay a runningback over an all-pro center. The logic is flawed.

And here comes the "YOU'RE NOT A GM HOW WOULD YOU KNOW?" comments. GMs make mistakes like the rest of us, it doesn't make the criticisms any less valid. It's a lazy argument that typically comes from people that are insecure about their knowledge of the game.

Now try to get a better comeback, I've seen 6th graders use my screen name as an insult, you're not clever.

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Thegravedigger's picture

August 24, 2021 at 10:40 pm

all fair points when explained. i agree with the aj dillon point for sure. regardless of how good he will be, you can get a decent back later on. i hear you there. maybe they didnt plan on paying aaron jones, then it wouldve made a little more sense. they do try to win, they just dont do the all in thing. it can be very frustrating. the aj dillon and deguara and love picks hurt us for sure. just look at the team we played in the nfc championship game. the bucs first and 2nd round picks were very solid starters for them, and none of our picks did a damn thing last year. aj dillon one game. runyan filled in a bit, vernon scott filled in a bit. thats it. tristan wirfs held up pretty damn good against the smith bros and our 1st round pick didnt even play. maybe that will pay off in a few years, but odds are against us. they always are though. only 1 in 32 win the big one. and maybe the packers are fine with just making it to the final 4 or elite 8. i truly believe they traded up for brandon aiyuk. they traded up to 26. minnesota was picking 25 and already had jefferson. minnesota trades their pick and aiyuk goes to san fran. my theory anyway. really doesnt matter.

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Horrible4's picture

August 25, 2021 at 03:22 am

The Deguara pick is a little more reasonable, because I liked what I saw from him when we had him healthy, we just didn't get to truly realize how impactful that pick could have been because he just got injured right away. If you go back and watch Week 1 vs. the Vikings last season he had two big splash plays, one on an end-around where he took out two defenders throwing one block for Lazard to get an easy first down and another on a short wheel route of the the backfield for a respectable gain.

The Packers did this with Vitale to an extent but he wasn't as versatile as Deguara is. With Deguara's experience as a tight end and being a receiver he has the necessary tools to be a blocker in the fullback/tight end position and catch passes out of basically any route on the field. Although I would argue you could have gotten Deguara way later in the draft, it's hard for me to see him not being used in very creative ways. So this pick gets a pass from me.

It is incredibly hard to justify the lack of usage from AJ Dillon though. Packers only ran him 3 times in the Championship averaging 5.7 yards per carry in a backfield that was struggling to move the ball all day after Aaron Jones went out with an injury. The Buccaneers were using speed to their advantage to cover everything the Packers were doing schematically and the pass rush got home easily. There was no reason not to use the highly drafted 2nd round pick on such an aggressive defense and for some they just refused to.

To this day I'll never understand why that decision was made, it just seemed like we reverted to our playcalling under Mike McCarthy that game in the second half after Aaron Jones fumbled and we couldn't get anything going off of 3 turnovers. I could write a book on this at the end of the day, and it's not that I hate what the Packers do or that I'm down on everything they do, they could just be so much better than they are and missed their chance to become a dominant dynasty like the Patriots years ago based on the same moves they're making now.

I feel like we deserve another title, that's the only reason I have so much criticism.

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Thegravedigger's picture

August 25, 2021 at 10:13 am

i remember the deguara plays week 1. he looked actually very fast it was like a little out route in the flat and he looked very explosive. As to the point on not using aj dillon, it seems like a very good point i never thought of. my only response to that would be, who was really calling the plays in the 2nd half? lafluer, or aaron rodgers? you know laflueur calls teh plays, but rodgers has options to change them. and in the 2nd half of an nfc championship game at home, with the team down, do you really see rodgers taking it out of his own hands??? never.

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stockholder's picture

August 23, 2021 at 04:39 pm

Good trade.

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jhtobias's picture

August 23, 2021 at 05:05 pm

How are you not a general manager your amazing thought process. You have already determined a 7th round pick can do 95 percent of what an all pro rb can and you wanted to pay 62 million dollars to a center with a bad back . Well gosh if i owned an nfl team i would hire you

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porupack's picture

August 24, 2021 at 05:53 am

Horrible gets $9500 per week just sitting in his armchair, and sends out multiple posts that everyone can get rich every week. Its easy he says.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 24, 2021 at 06:37 am

You, Sir, are a horrible person. You owe me a new keyboard to replace the one I just spilled coffee on.

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