Packers Stock Report Week 3

Buying and selling performances as the quarterly stock report approaches. 

The Packers head into their Thursday Night's showdown against the Eagles sporting a 3-0 record and carrying a wave of optimism.  This week's stock report will reflect all of the positivity and will largely hold off any intense criticism until the upcoming quarterly stock report which comes out this Saturday.  

I will just come out right now and tell you that I am not selling the offenses inconsistent and lackluster performance just yet; largely because I predicted it would take them six or seven weeks to learn and be able to execute LaFleur's new system and get their feet underneath them. Stay patient Packer Nation, it will benefit the team in the long run.  

Buy, Buy, Buy:

Buy me 1,000 shares of Smith INC NOW!!!!!

1. Preston Smith: What can you say about Preston, other than he makes a huuuge play every single week. This week, he lived at Flacco's feet, collapsed his pocket, and drove him to the ground for 3 sacks.  Smith has been a game-changer thus far.

2. Za'Darius Smith: Z is the CEO of the law firm Smith INC because he leads this defense and this pass-rushing tandem like a bo$$.  He generates so many pressures which lead to hurried passes, quarterback pressures, and sacks.  This week he reaped the benefits of his labor by bringing Flacco down twice.  Z has been the heartbeat of this defense from the start of training camp and it is becoming very evident that this unit is following his lead and becoming a force to be reckoned with.  

3. Darnell Savage: This kid has promise and has a chance to be special, how do I know that? He makes plays as he did on Sunday look routine.  I believe he will be an all-pro safety in the next 2-3 years.  

4. Brian Bulaga: Brian's performance to this point has been outstanding.  As Bulaga has gotten older, defensive coordinators have tended to try and scheme rushes towards his side of the line.  For the past three weeks, Bulaga has been able to withstand the heat of some petty intimidating pass rushes and has not allowed a sack.  Going into the Denver game, Bulaga only allowed 0.5% of pass rushers to generate pressure on Aaron Rodgers.  

5. JK Scott: Scott has gotten his shit together and has put together a very consistent start to the 2019 season.  He always seems to get away a booming kick when the Packers need it the most.  Scott is averaging 48.6 yards per punt (43.7 yards net) and has already pinned 9 of his punts inside of the opponents 20-yard line.  Scott has played a big role in being able to flip field position and set up his defense to make plays when the offense has stalled.

 

Stocks Trending Down:

1. Geronimo Allison: Despite his touchdown in week 2, I have not really seen any progression from Geronimo over the last couple of seasons.  In fact, to this point, I would have to say that he has actually regressed.  The Packers tendered Allison, thinking that this would be the year he would emerge as the primary second option behind Davante Adams.  This clearly hasn't happened, and as a result, the Packers are still looking for a consistent second option behind Adams to alleviate some of the coverage coming his way.  Right now, MVS seems to be the only secondary option behind Adams, if this doesn't change, the Packers will be forced to add a receiver.  The message for Geronimo is pretty simple, step up or you'll be out of here at seasons end.

2. Jimmy Graham: Let's see if LaFleur actually gets Graham involved in the offense this week.  He could provide another viable check-down option for Rodgers when his pocket collapses.  Stay tuned for the quarterly report for more on Jimmy.  

3. Kevin King: King had a rough day at the office on Sunday as Courtland Sutton had his way with him.  I'll be honest, King's interception against the Vikings bought him some equity with me so I'll give him a week to fix it before I finalize his quarterly assessment.  Regardless, it was a brutal Sunday for King.  

Sound off:

Who left you speechless on Sunday? (Good or Bad)

Stay tuned for a more thorough assessment of the Packers from top to bottom this Saturday at 12/11central.      

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David Michalski is a staff writer for Cheesehead TV. He can be found on Twitter @kilbas27dave 

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Canadiancheese's picture

September 24, 2019 at 11:21 am

I would only add that Jaire Alexander has been a revelation at DB for the Packers and a possible DPOY candidate given his play thus far.

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cuervo's picture

September 24, 2019 at 11:22 am

You can hope for Graham to get more targets, but I wouldn't expect much even if does. It's obvious now almost 1.5 years later that the Graham signing was one of the few swing and misses for Gute. IMO they should sit him until totally healthy and divide his snaps between Tonyan and Lewis. Perhaps if he comes back totally healthy in a few weeks you might be able to get something out of him, or you might find there isn't any reason to play him at all.

He's gone after this year, so quit wasting time "trying" to get him involved...he simply cannot do it anymore, see who else on the roster can.

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Tundraboy's picture

September 24, 2019 at 09:26 pm

Yes please! Very rational comments. Let him get himself healthy if possible.. But in the meantime give playing time to Tonyan,Baylis and Lewis. Stop deluding ourselves and wasting time it's not like we can do any worse., Or get less production then we are getting now. Need to have some threat from the tight end position. Look what the Vitale play added to what we were doing in the passing game aside from the wide receivers and running backs.

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PackfanNY's picture

September 24, 2019 at 11:28 am

Nice summary Dave. I can’t say I disagree with much of what you wrote. I think the fact King is on this list is a little tough. I think the first two games were pretty good from him. As you stated, he struggled against Sutton. However, he has missed so much time the first two seasons of his career the fact that he is playing and holding his own is a positive. Just think ups and downs should be expected given the lack of actual time on the field.

Here’s hoping he stays healthy and his performance becomes more consistent with time.

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PatrickGB's picture

September 24, 2019 at 11:55 am

Last years second round pick Jackson has done little or nothing on defense or STs. But I guess you can’t have stock down if it really has not been up to begin with.

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September 24, 2019 at 12:20 pm

Allison is still on the team because everyone after Adams is pretty much the same, except for MVS possibly. Allison looked like he might be on the verge of breaking out last year right before he was injured, so I think that's what earned him his spot this year. He killed a drive in each of the last two games. He needs to turn it around to stay in GB next year.

Unless something changes, Graham is an example of keeping a guy 1 year too long. Maybe MLF can be true to his word this week, and figure out a way to utilize him properly.

The guy that left me speechless last game was the Denver RB Linsay on the TD run where he broke tackles by Clark and Lowry(?).

The Smiths continue to impress me.

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Barazinho's picture

September 24, 2019 at 01:18 pm

Watch Lindsay's TD again - he was basically stopped, and the O-linemen just grabbed him and threw him into the end zone. Officially it's illegal (you can only push from behind), but it wasn't called.

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Qoojo's picture

September 25, 2019 at 11:10 am

Did you watch everything that happened before the OL guy helped him into the end zone? You are focusing on that very last bit while ignoring everything before it.

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PatrickGB's picture

September 24, 2019 at 12:27 pm

Lindsay made the pro bowl last year. Sometimes good players just make plays. I think that Clark’s stock dropped a bit this week because of it.

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September 24, 2019 at 12:29 pm

"The Smiths" are something GB hasn't had in GB since Reggie and Sean Jones. Seriously.

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stockholder's picture

September 24, 2019 at 12:42 pm

Stock does goes up and down. King is still what this defense needs. He's still physical and exceptional. He's no bust! Forget the roller coastal ride. A good foundation starts with Footings. And King is part of it. The problem with any portfolio is getting rid of the underachievers. And Allison and Graham are underachievers. Is LeFluers offense to tough for them? Doubt it. Allison does not have the speed for the slot. And that is problem #1. The SLOT! Problem two was the OL./ Jenkins is the cure. OL Stock going up. So that leaves us with the TEs. No body can make heads or tails of this. Expecting TEs to be blockers, more then game changers is a "mistake". It's holding Graham back. (While he is hurt.) The TE's just aren't OL. Wasting 10 mil on a TE is a crime. Graham must become part of the game plan.

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Gman1976's picture

September 24, 2019 at 03:12 pm

When TE Cook was available to resign when he left the Raiders, I was really hoping Gute would sign him and let Graham go. We might be one year away from a draft and a free agency that could net us another TE, WR and another good offensive lineman. I'm hoping that Aaron can carry the offense until then, but we'll see.

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Minniman's picture

September 25, 2019 at 04:54 am

Sadly Sternberger went straight to IR. Who knows what the Packers have there. Either way he will be another 2 years before they know one way or the other.

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Lare's picture

September 24, 2019 at 01:10 pm

IMO, stock should be up for Jenkins. Rookie starting his first game and he not only played well but helped the rest of the OL play better also. He could solidify this OL for many years to come.

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Minniman's picture

September 25, 2019 at 05:05 am

Related to this, I'm really interested to see how Bulaga goes in the back half of the year.

If he remains injury free (pessimistically unlikely - I know!) I'm keen to see if he still has the stamina or runs out of gas. Surely the Packers will draft a Tackle but he may warrant another extension if he's still playing solid and the other linemen have good years (making the unit as a whole solid - a la 2015) which could reduce the feeling of a need to draft his replacement early.

This may be pivotal for the Packers next draft strategy and gift them the draft capital to go heavy early with a couple of offensive weapons for Rodgers (WR, RB, TE).

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September 24, 2019 at 01:18 pm

As I said at the time, the Graham signing was a mistake. He’s much slower, often injured etc. I’m pretty sure Gute would like a do over. If we’re not going to at least try and get him involved, then just sit him. Give Tonyan more looks and would like to see more of Vitale. Our D has been great so far with the exception of the run D. Hope Pettine has some new wrinkles to fix it. Go Pack and continue to stay healthy!

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September 24, 2019 at 01:18 pm

What's crazy to me is the hype train from camp. All you heard was Z Z Z and nothing about Preston. Now that its game time Preston is absolutely ballin..

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cheesehead1's picture

September 24, 2019 at 01:22 pm

I remember reading comments from Redskin fans saying he was a very good player but disappeared at times. He’s been outstanding so far!

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Oppy's picture

September 24, 2019 at 01:32 pm

After Geronimo's play in the 2018 season before season-ending injury, I don't know how anyone could claim they "have not really seen any progression from Geronimo over the last couple of seasons."

Allison is off to a slow, sub-par start in 2019, no question. However, observers said he was quietly impressive during training camp (including Rodgers), and he came out in 2018 on fire, consistently producing, and making big plays. If 2018 wasn't a progression for Allison, he must have been criminally under-utilized in 2017.

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September 24, 2019 at 05:17 pm

Geronimo is not a #2. He's a #3 who is not going to consistently beat the second best CB on most teams. Too darn slow. I said this at the beginning of the season and I'll say it again, GB's WR corps has not been this average in a long long time. One stud. One with potential and a bunch of JAGS. Lets stop kidding ourselves here. Read my lips: NO SEPARATION.

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fastmoving's picture

September 25, 2019 at 12:54 am

Geronimo is not a good WR, but other than that the group is one of the best we had in a long time. Lots of speed and size and you can see the separation if you watch film. Really impressiv! If AR is back to his old self (from 4 years back) this should look good. but of course its a big if...........

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Oppy's picture

September 25, 2019 at 02:55 am

Read my lips: Explain Geronimo's production in 2018.

Production is all that matters, and Geronimo produced. On pace for just under 1000 yards, 6 TDs, averaging 15.2 per reception.. playing as the #2 WR.

If his claimed lack of separation doesn't inhibit catching the ball, getting yards, first downs, and touchdowns, is it really a problem? The question is can he get back into 2018 form.

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September 24, 2019 at 01:45 pm

I know you threw love to Bulaga. And another threw love to Jenkins. But the stock is up on the pass rusher containment on the entire offensive line. One hit on AR the whole game??!? That’s absurd. Not even a grass stain. I know he threw the ball away about five times to prevent from dying......but still. Not sure I’ve seen a performance quite like that. And it couldn’t come at a better time with a short week. Rodgers can have a scotch and a massage and it will barely matter. He doesn’t even have to do an ice bath or get on a plane. It’s not like the Bronco pass rush is slouch. Von Miller an all pro. 98 sacks. 14.5 just last year. Stonewalled. Chubb.....12 sacks last year. Stonewalled. Big egg for both. Played every snap. Lol.....Rashan Gary 26 snaps. Has more sacks this season than either of those two. And almost had another one based on WYMM where he grabbed Flacco’s jersey and Preston cleans up getting the credit. The whole oline gets the highest stock for keeping AR upright and non injured.....which is basically our season if the “man” goes down.

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NickPerry's picture

September 25, 2019 at 04:08 am

I thought Gary played a great game Sunday. I think the sacks will continue to come as Pettine creates more and more opportunities for him. The kid is always giving 100% and will only get better with the coaches the Packers now have and hanging with Za'Darius.

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scullyitsme's picture

September 24, 2019 at 02:06 pm

I love the Bulaga stock, love the guy but didn’t think we should give him a new contract, that is quickly changing. He might just play himself to a new deal. Sell on Redmond, I don’t know how that guy made it on this team. All pre season long he missed tackles and assignments, continues to do it in the regular season. If he’s all we have I’d rather just play dime and base to get him off the field. Also bench graham until he’s fully healthy so we don’t keep making excuses for his lack of production.

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September 25, 2019 at 10:52 am

My thoughts on Bulaga exactly. Let the season play out and if he makes 14 or more games heathy I give him a new contract. Dude is one of the best RT in the game when he is healthy. Give him less snaps in practice if need be. The guy knows what he is doing. I remember the Packers letting Clifton practice minimally at the end to save him for games.

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Rossonero's picture

September 24, 2019 at 02:05 pm

I get that it will take 6-7 weeks for the team to gel offensively, but what worries me is LaFleur and in-game adjustments. We've scored 45 of our 58 pts. in the first half. So to me, we are getting out coached in the second half on offense. Our defense and Mike Pettine is masking this with our great defensive play.

Football is a game of adjustments. I read on the Athletic that last year, playoff teams averaged 7.80 yards per attempt. I can't recall where we're at, but what I do know is that we are not at 7.80 yards per attempt.

Philly should be missing Ronald Darby. We have to get Adams, Allison and Graham more involved. I just hope it's not another second half snooze fest offensively, because so far, that's all we've seen. While we have played the likes of the Bears and Vikings who have great defenses of their own, expectations will only increase for the offense as each week passes. GO PACK GO!!

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twistertom's picture

September 24, 2019 at 02:29 pm

The last game Rodgers was over 8 yards per attempt.

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September 24, 2019 at 06:15 pm

Thanks TwisterTom. I believe for the season we're still below 7.8, but I'll take the Denver game as a step in the right direction.

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Swisch's picture

September 24, 2019 at 02:08 pm

A deep and disturbing mystery yet to be solved by knowledgeable fans of the Packers:
Is it our quarterback or our receivers?
Are receivers getting open but Rodgers isn't throwing to them; or are receivers not getting open?
Reading many posts by the staff at CHTV as well as comments by fans has not given a clear answer!
This could take painstaking film study in watching all the receivers every play; but with all the knowledge at this site, I thought there would be more clarity on this critical issue.
Is Aaron Rodgers stubbornly stunting the offense; or is he the victim of substandard receivers?
I guess a third possibility is that the offense needs more time to gel -- but then again, its seems the offense is especially bad thus far, painfully so for us fans, beyond all reason.
Who among us will convincingly solve this distressing dilemma?
P.S. I thought LaFleur's new scheme for the offense was supposed to help receivers to get open rather requiring them to always beat a defensive back one on one.

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EddieLeeIvory's picture

September 24, 2019 at 04:17 pm

Well we clearly saw Rodgers sail.2 passes over the heads of wide open guys.
And we saw him just a little long to Bob Tonyan.

He's always erred on the side of caution. Overthrows instead of underthrows & int. Recall his overthrow to Jennings in Overtime of the 2010 playoff game in Arizona.
But also recall him coming back 2 years ago from the Barr cheap hit collarbone. He had 3 underthrows all picked off at Carolina.
One to Nelson, one to Adams, one to Cobb.

I fear he's never been the same since that injury.
And yes I still hate Anthony Barr.

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September 25, 2019 at 12:43 am

It is both. They are not mutually exclusive. MVS is big and fast, but he isn't a good receiver: hence the lack of consistency. Graham is old. Allison is a mystery. Kumerow can't get on the field. ESB is out. Shepherd just got back. I never thought much of Lazard despite the hype.

The lack of talent means the QB has to make even better decisions. I don't think Rodgers has maximized the talent the team has at the receiving positions, but even a great QB needs something to work with. I'd put it more on the receiving talent, but AR could target the first open receiver instead looking to see if something is open downfield (generally Adams or MVS) and then trying to go back to the check down.

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Oppy's picture

September 25, 2019 at 02:57 am

Wait, Rodgers tries to go back to the check down?

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Swisch's picture

September 25, 2019 at 09:38 am

Thanks much, Thegreatreynoldo, for your reply and your thoughtful perspective.
Based on your answer, it seems Rodgers would do well to help his receivers develop by targeting that first open guy and creating the confidence that comes with catching passes.
After getting that kind of synergy going with his receiving corps, and moving the chains, then Rodgers can take some looks downfield. Mix it up.
I could be wrong, but it's hard to overestimate the added enthusiasm that comes to a receiver when he feels like he could get the ball at any moment.
This whole dynamic of what Rodgers is going to do on passing plays is to me a huge storyline for this season, and thus a key for the game tomorrow night.
I'm hoping CHTV will help to break it down for us!

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EddieLeeIvory's picture

September 24, 2019 at 02:30 pm

For all the crap many of you/us give Thompson for what he didn't do or did do wrong, he drafted WRs better than anyone.

Jennings, Jordy, Davante were all Grand Slam picks.
James Jones was at least a solo dinger. I'd grade it higher but that was 2007 & we could have gotten that year's record-setting Randy Moss from Oakland for that pick.

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TheKanataThrilla's picture

September 25, 2019 at 06:09 pm

Totally agree. Unfortunately with the help of hindsight he drafted Josh Jones instead of JuJu (1 spot later) or Cooper Kupp (8 spots later). All those DB whiffs really hurt the team where we needed to keep on going back to the draft for need instead of getting help for Aaron at WR or even drafting BPA.

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Razer's picture

September 24, 2019 at 03:49 pm

Thanks for updating the desktop interface - much better. CHTV stock is on the rise.

Nice job on acknowledging the highlighters from the last week. I am still a little skeptical about the sustainability of this defense, particularly against the run. After Clark and maybe Lowry, the talent slides fast. Would like to see us get more depth into the game in the trenches because, with this sputtering offense, Clark is gassed by the 3rd quarter. Also worried about LB depth. Martinez then who? As we start to meet the better QBs and offenses, the rubber will need o hit the road.

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Since'61's picture

September 24, 2019 at 04:37 pm

But low, sell high! Therefore I’m buying Rashan Gary. With his fresh legs he is an X factor in this defense and his speed is downright scary. He has already been double teamed on some of his snaps and he still gets to the QB.

I think he gets even more snaps against the Eagles and becomes more of a factor in this week’s game. Gary and the Smiths have the potential to wreck a game either collectively or individually.

If our offense can stay on the field long enough to keep our defense fresh they are going to do plenty of damage.

Start fast, then ball control and the defense will do the rest. Go Pack Go! Thanks, Since ‘61

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Gee's picture

September 24, 2019 at 05:25 pm

I'm on your train Since '61,some are already there and I expect more to get on board. Look when the pick happened I was undecided, cause I didn't know to much about him. Not going to go into his time at Michigan, but one aspect how he was schemed for while there. What always stood out, was the doubled and tripled teamed a lot. Now after his first sack, I can see why, Gary just ran through the tackle. I get it now. it's way too early, but I can't wait to see more!!!

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September 24, 2019 at 04:58 pm

Is there any plan to LaFleur's offense?... it's all random, not a passing game, not a running game, plays are basic, few multiple receiver sets, early runs into stacked D lines, few passes over the middle, same old sideline passes for four yards when you need ten... I think Rodgers is getting frustrated with this Titan offense. He remembers what a high flying offense looks like and this ain't it. It's not enough to say it will take six weeks to gel... Rodgers is a Hall of Fame QB, Adams is top five WR, Jones is a top 10 running back, two great tackles, a pretty good OL... this offense shouldn't be this bad even in week one let alone three. All around the league rookie receivers are outplaying our veterans, rookie QB's are outplaying our Hall of Fame QB... how come they don't need six weeks to get used to a system? Problem is we don't have receivers or tight ends who can get open and for all the hype about him being an offensive genius LaFleur seems to have no idea how to scheme receivers open. Sit Allison and Graham, play Shepheard or Kumerow and Tonyan and go to an offense more geared to our QB; pass to set up the run. Watch Brady/Belichick tape if you need a lesson. Move Adams in and out of the slot. Use Jones more and don't fall back to the McCarthy mindset of using Williams more than Jones because occasionally he pushes the pile. Jones is the stud, get him the ball the way New Orleans gets Kamara the ball. Rodgers and LaFleur need to have a long sit down to figure this out, with each contributing. LaFleur is the head coach and has the final say, but he has nowhere near the experience of Rodgers, one of the greatest and smartest QBs of all time.

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Since'61's picture

September 24, 2019 at 07:03 pm

Johnny - I think that you have some good points concerning Rodgers being frustrated with the offensive scheme(s). I agree that many of the plays look pretty basic. I would add that the offense should not be all about Rodgers and MLF either. Hackett and Getsy are part of the offensive game planning as well. Yes, MLF has the final say and Rodgers executes but something needs to be done to open up this offense.

I have also posted that Adams should be moved in and out of the slot. It's time to give Kumerow and Shepard their shots. It may be time to give Rodgers more freedom in this offense. My sense is that MLF is being conservative, at least so far, because of the his defense. The question is how will this offense/MLF respond if they fall behind? After Adams the receiving core has been weak, especially the TEs. One of the other WRs besides Adams needs to step up or we need to acquire a FA WR if any are available that can make a difference.

If anyone can pull off an in season move to help the team it will be Gute. Time will tell. Thanks, Since '61

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September 25, 2019 at 02:08 am

I would like to see Kumerow (injured - again! - he is more injured than Trevor ever been!) and Shepard too, but I believe Shepard will be there with snaps slowly rising (if he show promise).

Lazard? Packers has several high offensive players and Lazard is still very row!

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September 24, 2019 at 07:05 pm

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baldski's picture

September 25, 2019 at 03:26 am

What about our OC ? Does he have any ideas on scheming people open?

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