Packers Practice Roundup: August 28, 2022

 

The Packers practiced Sunday with individual drills open to the media but not team drills.

 

MISCELLANEOUS:

Matt LaFleur said TE Robert Tonyan will participate in team drills today for the first time this summer.  [He’s doing individual drills (media viewing ends before team periods).]  2) New DNPs at practice besides Jenkins are TEs Nate Becker and Alizé Mack, who picked up injuries against the Chiefs.  3) Matt LaFleur says Elgton Jenkins won’t practice today. “Not necessarily planned, but I’m gonna keep it internal.”  Schneidman

I’m telling you - I’m not letting Rasheed Walker go after that performance last night. He’s ahead of Caleb Jones for me now - although I’d honestly like to see them keep both.  Herman

Rasheed Walker and Zach Tom both logged a team-high 35 snaps in pass protection against the Chiefs. Neither player allowed a single pressure, according to @PFF.  Jacobson
 
Matt LaFleur says that the Packers' medical staff thought it would be in rookie Christian Watson's best interest to get two more weeks before being put in a game situation, hence his inactive status for preseason finale in Kansas City.  2) Matt LaFleur asked if he has any indication if David Bakhtiari and Elgton Jenkins can be ready for Week 1: "We have no idea. I mean, it's hard to project that without being through practice, seeing how they respond, and getting into team reps."  3) Matt LaFleur says there is no decision yet on whether Mason Crosby will be taken off PUP before Tuesday's deadline.  Wood
 

Safeties Darnell Savage (hamstring) and Dallin Leavitt (shoulder) returned to practice. Savage’s return completes the secondary, but Leavitt’s return is especially well timed before Tuesday’s cutdown. Leavitt is expected to be a big part of special-teams core.  2) Elgton Jenkins is not practicing today, as Matt LaFleur said this morning.  The Packers say Jenkins’ absence as “nothing to do with the knee.” So that’s a sigh of relief. [It isn't the best sign, though.  TGR]  3) LT David Bakhtiari has returned to practice. Matt LaFleur said he thought Bakhtiari could do individual drills today after missing a practice Tuesday.  4) Matt LaFleur says Mason Crosby could "potentially" practice today, but he can't kick yet. Still trending in the right direction.  [This is confusing to me since I believe Crosby said he "kicked a set" indoors in a previous practice; maybe it wasn't a football that he was kicking.  TGR]  5) Matt LaFleur says issue with Jordan Love's pick near end of the first half wasn't that he threw downfield instead of checking down with the timeout left, but that it wasn't a back-shoulder throw. Against Tampa 2 coverage, LaFleur says Love needed to expect deep safety in middle.  Wood

If you were assuming Dallin Leavitt would be on the Packers' 53-man roster on Tuesday and then go to IR on Wednesday, you weren't alone.  Huber

The Packers have cut LB Ty Summers, a source said. They must be down to 53 by Tuesday but have begun the process today. More moves are likely today and tomorrow. They’re practicing both days and don’t want someone they’re planning to cut getting hurt.  2) Packers coach Matt LaFleur said they released Summers now to give him an opportunity to find another team before the big wave of cuts that are coming.  [But see the Field Yates tweet below - I take leave to doubt Field Yates as to Summers not going through Waivers immediately, but I can't find the exact wording of the agreement abut the return to the three phased cut down system.  TGR] 3) LaFleur suggested the rest of the cuts won't come until Tuesday's deadline. They're going to practice today and tomorrow.  Demovsky

A reminder as rosters narrow: all players that have been waived starting this past Friday and through this Tuesday's 53-man roster reduction are subject to waivers on Wednesday at Noon ET. They will not have the ability to be claimed or find another team prior to Wednesday.  2) The injury settlement negotiated between the Patriots and CB Malcolm Butler is for about 6 regular season weeks. While Butler can sign with another team at any point now, that settlement suggests he would be available to play around mid-to-late October.  Field Yates

Bills have informed rookie punter Matt Araiza that he is being released, effective immediately. Araiza has been accused along with two others of gang raping a 17-year-old girl last year in a civil lawsuit filed on Thursday.  Adam Schefter

 

 

 

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porupack's picture

August 29, 2022 at 06:45 am

Oh, that last point made me sick and everything else in the article trivial. I can't say I wished you didn't include it....but I sure wasn't ready to read such a thing to just be plopped at the end.

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Johnblood27's picture

August 29, 2022 at 07:08 am

accused.

accused.

not convicted.

I truly dislike that media reports are all taken as gospel truth in todays world. Likewise all allegations are assumed to be true.

What ever happened to foundational principles such as innocent until PROVEN guilty?

I don't believe media outlets without double corroboration and then stories are still subject to scrutiny for unreported nuance.

More individual judgement and less blind faith in 'victim' allegations and media hyperbole please.

The Araiza case MAY not be the best example to hold up for the statements above, but they are not meant to be for one instance only.

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Guam's picture

August 29, 2022 at 07:33 am

Well said JB27. Wisconsin football fans got an object lesson in that situation with the Quintez Cephus case. Cephus was accused of rape by a coed and was promptly barred from the university by the Administration as well as placed on suspension by the football team. Cephus denied all the charges and stated the sex was consensual. The case went to court and the jury deliberated for all of 30 minutes before clearing Cephus of all charges. Apparently the coed didn't want her boyfriend to know that she had had sex with Cephus and claimed rape when it became public.

Cephus justifiably sued the University for lack of due process in banning him from the school and won a substantial lawsuit.

Not all accusations are factual. Let the courts judge Araiza before we do.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 29, 2022 at 08:04 am

Interesting. This past weekend was an anniversary of the 1955 Emmit Till murder, where one person’s false accusation resulted in a death. We live in a country where the seriousness of the accusation is just as important as the facts.

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Coldworld's picture

August 29, 2022 at 10:47 am

This is one reason why a guy like Watson and the NFL/Browns behavior towards him is more pernicious than it seems on the surface.

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wildbill's picture

August 29, 2022 at 10:43 am

If I was in Phoenix, on July 4th, at high noon and the media told me it was sunny, I’d go out to watch the eclipse. With proper glasses of course!

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 29, 2022 at 07:51 pm

Well said, indeed, Jblood. One of the most important developments was that rights reside with the individual and are not based on his or her tribe, class, or ethnicity.

If an employer terminates an employee as a matter of course for any and every accusation, then how does a middle class or lower person fund his or her defense? As it is, most can't afford a really good defense attorney, short of putting up one's house. Many don't have substantial equity in a house to dip into.

This is a single civil suit, not twenty different accusations of the same conduct by different people, at different places and times. The San Diego Police have investigated this case for 10 months and recently sent it to the District Attorney's office. So far no criminal charges have been filed.

For full disclosure, I recently had a young relative get accused of wrongdoing. His Aunts and Uncles but up his bail money. BTW, if you put up bail and the person subsequently pleads guilty, any restitution comes out of the bail money. That is, even though the person dutifully and faithfully attended all court hearings and surrendered upon conviction, you don't get your bail money back, at least, not all of it. I don't think that's appropriate. In our case, we didn't get back $1,500 of the bail we put up, so I guess not the end of the world.

The public defender was very experienced and had a good reputation since I was able to check him out. Yet he has a private defense practice on the side and told us he was getting a third of his usual fee. Following the case I thought he was going through the motions. After some thought, I did offer to pay for a private defense attorney who I knew was very good to provide a second opinion on whether to accept a plea agreement. The second opinion might have run $1,000. My offer was declined, so I and my siblings did not have to decide whether we wanted to cough up that second attorney's $40,000 fee with $20,000 up front in the form of a retainer.

Well, Araiza has some money, though it is just his $216K signing bonus. After taxes, he can use most of the net on defense attorneys. In my young relative's case, I thought he probably was guilty of 2 of the more minor counts, and had reason to think that he was innocent of the two more serious counts because of when and where they were alleged to have occurred and some discrepancies.

If his employer chose to investigate and found enough things that are true, then fine, release him. Most employers won't be willing or even be able to spend money on an investigation.

I thought it was interesting, so I included it. Perhaps my recent personal involvement in a somewhat similar situation influenced that.

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Johnblood27's picture

August 29, 2022 at 10:20 pm

well,

first of all I thought I would get crucified for my post. around 50-50 so far... hmmm...

second, it seems as if none of the thumbs down crowd sees fit to challenge any aspects of the post... motivation?... hmmm...

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Guam's picture

August 30, 2022 at 07:57 am

Mabe we are learning that rushing to judgement is not a good idea? The Araiza case has not been criminally prosecuted despite the fact that it is becoming an old case at this point. Trust our court system before we trust the media and their hyperbole.

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T7Steve's picture

August 29, 2022 at 07:14 am

I hope they're just trying to make the water more murky when they talk about E.J. and Bakh. Will we not know if we have a line settled till they're in MN?

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PackyCheese500's picture

August 29, 2022 at 07:18 am

Possibly. By then, EJ could be healthy enough to play some snaps, but Tom is a good emergency option at RT. Newman should not be at RT, period.

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T7Steve's picture

August 29, 2022 at 07:27 am

Agreed. I worry about our depth if we're even considering him anywhere but guard.

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Coldworld's picture

August 29, 2022 at 11:08 am

I’m still waiting for someone to decode the reason why Hanson is a good option too.

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PackyCheese500's picture

August 29, 2022 at 07:26 am

Good that Tonyan is back. I think he’s set up for a major bounce-back year. Rodgers will covet his hands and he’ll probably be one of the go-to people in the red zone. We’ll have to wait and see with EJ…… I think he should be able to play at least some snaps at MN (emphasis on should), but Tom is a good emergency option (not a single pressure allowed all preseason!). He should get legitimate conversation to be a starter at RT or RG (of course, we’d first have to see how he holds up in an actual game). The Packers have such a deep Oline with many exciting prospects that could all shape into quality linemen; the Oline be formidable when EJ and Bakh have fully returned. Good thing Savage and Leavitt are back (I thought the latter would have been out for longer when I saw his injury). If Crosby isn’t ready, I like Ahmed; he’s been great. Coco too. Who do you all think is most likely be cut? Who do you think will be on the PS?

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Coldworld's picture

August 29, 2022 at 07:46 am

Herman was telling us Hanson really has been the star of camp a week ago. Now he would go Walker over Jones on one sighting, playing right not left and a fairly equal performance.

I liked Walker and the fact that we got him considerably. I want to keep him, but one showing is not enough to get a roster space after a bad preseason and injury issues (albeit I think that they are partially linked) over consistent performance. Put him on the PS and let’s see if he can sustain it.

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LambeauPlain's picture

August 29, 2022 at 09:25 am

I agree on Hanson. Maybe just a perception, but it seems he played worst every preseason game and Thursday was a skunk of a performance. The starting right side of Hanson and Newman shook my confidence in Steno and Butkus a bit. Do they believe Hanson and Newman are the top backups and potential starters at RG/RT in MN?

Huh.

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Handsback's picture

August 29, 2022 at 08:10 am

I'm reading how Tom hasn't allowed any pressure this pre-season but I think the Packers offense will have greater run significance then ever before.
That may seem no different in evaluating OL guys, but I'm thinking that players who can't move their opponent out of an designated space will get considerable more scrutiny and won't be considered starters going forward.
In other words, the oline grading system may have changed over the past year or so and some players may surprise or disappoint you in when they start or even get released.

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LambeauPlain's picture

August 29, 2022 at 09:40 am

I really like Tom. Looking to be a another day 3 OL draft steal like Linsley, Sitton, Lang, JRJ, Tausher, Wells, Tretter.

He's so quick and coordinated in his positioning. Guys just do not get around him. In fact, his hands to the face penalty Thursday was due to Tom literally blocking TWO GUYS! And he is only going to get stronger and more technically excellent.

He's like Jenks for his value to the team. Both can play any position on the line and not be a liability. What a luxury to have.

After Dave, Jenks, Myers, JRJ, Nijman...I think Tom is #6...ahead of Newman now (who needs to stay at G) and certainly Hanson.

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jhtobias's picture

August 29, 2022 at 10:16 am

I dont disagree on offensive philosophy, but I never saw tom get abused in the run while I saw hanson get worked by everyone not sure why they want to keep hanson .

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Johnblood27's picture

August 29, 2022 at 10:23 pm

I don't get the hanson love either.

Tom can be the backup center, why keep Hanson?

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Roadrunner23's picture

August 29, 2022 at 08:13 am

Thanks TGR

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LambeauPlain's picture

August 29, 2022 at 09:15 am

8 positions "available" on the 53 according to Coach Matt and Gutey.
16 prospects to the PS.
27 player cuts tomorrow.
In theory, only 3 players on the current 80 man roster could be off the team tomorrow.

Of course, Team Gutey will be using a fine tooth comb until Wednesday to staff the PS. Several will be from other teams...some prospects Gutey had on his draft board.

I expect most teams have their rosters mostly set like the Packers do. Which is why losing a cut player to another team's 53 is so very rare. The last cut Packer signed to a 53 was Taysom Hill (Saints) 5 years ago.

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wildbill's picture

August 29, 2022 at 10:35 am

53+ 16 PS=69. Not sure where your getting only three people losing their jobs but my math says a total of 11 from the 80

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jhtobias's picture

August 29, 2022 at 10:13 am

Personally I don't see walker making it through waiver claims or Caleb jones. Teams will develop tackles with huge upside especially on cheap contracts. Hanson is a back up center not sure why anyone would claim him or why we would keep him on the 53 im still confused with this.

Elgton Jenkins I truly believe is a money issue at this point not practicing. Can't blame him or the team. This could get interesting.

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JerseyAl's picture

August 29, 2022 at 10:27 am

teams will have their own tackles that they want to develop without having to use a roster spot. If they claim a waiver cut, they have to be put on the 53-man roster and they have to cut someone else. Teams normally only claim waived players that they think can help them now.

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jhtobias's picture

August 30, 2022 at 09:56 am

Jersey Al respect your work and views , but if What I predicted happens I'm owned an apology LOL just kidding

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LambeauPlain's picture

August 29, 2022 at 10:32 am

Money issue? I did not know this was a current disagreement. Where was it reported?

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 29, 2022 at 07:58 pm

To add a little more to Jersey Al's comment, teams that make a waiver claim have to put that player on the 53-man roster, and thus must expose one of their own players to waivers - that is, they have to cut somebody.

The acquiring team must pay the player they claimed on waivers for 3 weeks. Technically, they can release or trade the player prior to the end of the 3-week period, but they must pay them 3 game checks.

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wildbill's picture

August 29, 2022 at 08:03 pm

Great addition of the nuances of the cut downs

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wildbill's picture

August 29, 2022 at 10:48 am

I’m happy that Tom has looked so good. I would like to find out how he has done, in 11:11, against Gary and Smith. Because if he were to start against the Queens it would be Z and hunter. Both of those are a hand full, even for veteran tackles.

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Coldworld's picture

August 29, 2022 at 11:13 am

The only guy ahead v Gary is Nijman, or was (it could have changed)

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Coldworld's picture

August 29, 2022 at 11:13 am

Duplicate

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 29, 2022 at 08:03 pm

I also decided to include the tidbit about Malcom Brown reaching an injury settlement for 6 weeks. Not that I think Brown might be a target for the Packers, necessarily. In another thread I suggested generating some cap space so the team could pick up a #3 OLB or a #3 safety and have the means to sign a name player in week two when contracts are no longer guaranteed for veterans.

i also was just thinking ahead to the trade deadline in week 8 (Buffalo Game). We don't necessarily know now which position might need a replacement due to injury or a player who isn't playing as projected.

I am sure Gute is looking at these kind of transactions and will keep them in mind.

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NoNonsense's picture

August 29, 2022 at 08:44 pm

Two years in a row of having a rookie OL as the highest rated player during the preseason. Let's just hope that Tom has a better regular season than Newman if he has to start the season at RT. His one real blemish, the hands to the face was him saving Caleb Jones from giving up a sack or at least a pressure on the play. The guy is impressive.

Tom's technique is so good that I doubt he will struggle like Newman did last year. Still with Hunter and Z on the docket he's sure got his hands full for his first start in the NFL.

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