Packers have Opportunity to Better Round Out Rest of Roster

With two additional early-round picks and about $20 million in newfound cap space, the Green Bay Packers are better positioned to round out the rest of this roster.

There is certainly no replacing Davante Adams--the best wide receiver in football. And admittedly, there is now a massive void at the wide receiver position. But in making the trade, the Packers gained the flexibility to address that need as well as to better round out the rest of the roster.

In terms of the salary cap, this is a very top-heavy Green Bay Packers roster because they have so much high-end talent that has to be paid. The league-wide salary cap this year is $208.2 million, and prior to Green Bay trading Adams, their six highest cap hits in 2022 accounted for $96.5 million of that, according to Over the Cap. 

Yet even with a rather large portion of the salary cap devoted to a few players, this is a very well-put-together roster. Once again, the Packers will be one of the favorites to come out of the NFC, and I can't imagine Aaron Rodgers would have wanted to return if he thought otherwise.

With that said, like every other team, the Packers still have needs to fill this offseason. As already mentioned, adding at least two players to the receiver room feels like a must. But on top of that, cornerback is a need--outside of Jaire Alexander and Eric Stokes, there are only three cornerbacks on the roster at the moment, and combined, they have 38 career snaps.

The safety position is another need. Adrian Amos and Darnell Savage are both in the final year of their current deals, while Innis Gaines, Vernon Scott, and Shawn Davis have a total of 90 career snaps. The Packers also need more reliable edge rusher depth. As good as Preston Smith and Rashan Gary were last season, when they weren't on the field, there was a serious lack of impact plays.

There are also just four interior defensive linemen currently on the roster, the offensive tackle position needs to be added to with the team cutting Billy Turner, and Green Bay needs to find a true pass-catching option at tight end.

However, despite all of those positional needs, the Packers have been limited in what they've been able to do because of salary cap restraints. The last few weeks, Brian Gutekunst and Russ Ball have been pinching pennies with restructures and pushing more cap charges into future years just to barely get out of the red by last Wednesday's deadline. 

But once the trade for Adams becomes official, Green Bay will now have some newfound flexibility to better address those positions of need. For starters, the Packers just gained $20.1 million in cap space because Adams' franchise tag is no longer sitting on the books. They also gained picks 22 and 53 in this year's draft--giving them four selections in the top-60 and five in the top-100. 

As a result, it sounds like they are already going to put that additional cap space to work by re-signing Rasul Douglas--a player who would likely have ended up elsewhere had the team kept Adams.

Now, of course, even with the added cap space and two new picks, Green Bay still isn't going to be able to address every need that I listed above, or at least they won't be able to do so with impact players or even Day 1 contributors. But they are in a much better position to do so than they were earlier this week.

I'll say it again, there is no replacing Adams, and it's certainly fair to wonder how a team can be better off after losing the game's top receiver. And in reality, when it comes to the receiver position, the Packers aren't going to be. However, hopefully, by now being able to improve other positions and able to round out this roster better, Green Bay is equipped to help mitigate Adams' departure. 

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Born and raised in Green Bay, WI and I still call it home. After my family, watching the Packers, sharing my opinions on the team through my writing and interacting with other fans is my greatest passion. You can find me on Twitter at @Paul_Bretl. 
 

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frankthefork's picture

March 18, 2022 at 10:06 am

Thanks, Paul,
Flexibility to move in the draft and surf the FA market with a HOF MVP QB.
Looking much better and brighter.

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DwightReese's picture

March 18, 2022 at 03:59 pm

What better way to get WR A Rodgers more playing time as well.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

March 18, 2022 at 10:10 am

Now we know why Rodgers took so long. He had to decide if he was coming back without Tae.

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Leatherhead's picture

March 18, 2022 at 10:18 am

You notice we didn't trade Adams until AFTER Rodgers had signed his deal.

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Minniman's picture

March 18, 2022 at 10:38 am

But per reports Rodgers was aware of Adams' situation - but signed anyway.

On reflection I tend to agree with Paul in that this is shaping up as a least worst scenario for the Packers this off-season.

If Douglas, Tonyan and possibly MVS can be retained, then there's a lot to work with to reload.

Remember, the o-line will be back to full strength and Jones and Dillon are still manning the backfield.

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BirdDogUni's picture

March 18, 2022 at 12:08 pm

I have no doubt Gutey will draft at least two WRs and a TE in this draft, but could you imagine if he drafted Breece Hall?

6' 1" 220 lbs and ran a 4.39... Talk about a mismatch in the backfield. You could easily split him out of the backfield and into favorable situations. He's bigger and faster than Davante Adams, with added value of being a RB.

Keeping RB a solid strength is just an added bonus.

My dream of a Full House "T" backfield could be realized. Lol

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crayzpackfan's picture

March 18, 2022 at 03:24 pm

Bird- if Hall were to slide down far enough, I don’t see picking him as being crazy at all. Jones is getting older and definitely won’t get another contract. Hall is an absolute workhorse, and a speedy one at that. Living in Iowa, I have watched a lot of his games. Even when he wasn’t getting the yards, defenses still played up. That’s all I need to know about a guy. Does he command respect from his opponents? Hall definitely did.

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Minniman's picture

March 19, 2022 at 12:52 pm

Totally agree - the days of WR's being exclusively route and catch are long gone.

The current WR 1-3 needs to:

1) Block like a TE (who needs to be able to block like a swing tackle)
2) Equally be adept in the slot as on the border (well at least serviceable enough to make defenses bite)

Conversely the modern RB needs to catch passes almost as well as accelerate through defensive creases.

..... and these notes tie into your comments about the offensive player commanding respect from the defense (their decoy work is equally important as their target work).

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 18, 2022 at 05:08 pm

Kenny Walker out of Michigan State would augment the RB room.

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Coldworld's picture

March 18, 2022 at 07:20 pm

Do we need to?

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 18, 2022 at 08:03 pm

Yes.

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

March 18, 2022 at 09:19 pm

Thats an assumption about the oline. Nobody knows if Jenkins will be ready to play plus Turner and Patrick are gone now. Who knows if Bakhtiari will ever be 100%? Theres a lot of work to be done there.

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Minniman's picture

March 19, 2022 at 12:55 pm

Good point and I agree that there is a lot of rust to be ground off the OLine - however I'm quietly confident that Turner wasn't getting cut if there were any lingering doubts.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

March 18, 2022 at 10:17 am

While I enjoyed Adam's time in GB, he ultimately did not want to play in GB. Secondly, while a good WR he isn't the best WR in the league. He may have for a year or two but isn't any longer with young guys like Cooper, Chase, Jefferson, etc. In my mind Raiders way over paid for a soon to be 30 year old WR. I am talking salary. They paid him on past performance and I just do not see him maintaining similar level of play.

Getting a 1st and a 2nd I believe is an amazing deal for a player who was not under contract (until be tagged) and who did not want to play in GB. Hats off to Gutey! Now the pressure is on Gutey to make sure what he gets in return are quality players whether in draft or trade. If he can use those picks for quality players the Packers by far got the best end of the deal.

I am pretty confident MVS is resigned. Having MVS, Lazard, Cobb, and Amari is a good foundation at WR to build from. Gutey will add some good players. I am excited finally after stewing about not trading Rodgers for those starting Denver players and draft picks. Sign Rasual, Jaire, and MVS!

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Leatherhead's picture

March 18, 2022 at 10:21 am

Knock, I'm not sure about MVS, but Lazard, Cobb, and Amari are already three of the five we dress. The #5 guy usually doesn't play from scrimmage unless people are hurt. The #4 guy won't get a lot of targets, either.

I'm expecting an early WR in the draft, or a FA signing, or both. We do not have a legitimate #1 on the team right now and that'll have to be fixed, even if it's a rookie.

Douglas is getting resigned. Alexander is under contract.

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BirdDogUni's picture

March 18, 2022 at 10:33 am

I am betting Gutey will target both Christian Watson and Alec Pierce. Just seems like the Packer/Gutey thing to do? Seems GB shy's away from the top tier diva type WRs, which makes some sense, especially when it comes to re-signing them.

This team is shaping up to be amazing, and with a bit of luck, they could be great, depending on how Gutey does with the draft this year. The only major hole is at WR and every year people say WRs are a dime a dozen, (which if true) we shouldn't be too worried.

Spend 3 of our 11 picks on WRs, DL, OLBer, OT, S, TEs and we're cook'in with gas.

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 18, 2022 at 11:01 am

They need speed.

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Turophile's picture

March 18, 2022 at 06:33 pm

The early picks are usually the most important (of course there are exceptions, like RB Aaron Jones) and this draft now allows the Packers to get (for example) a WR, Edge, DL, TE, all before the end of round 2.

This could also be the year the Packers break their tendency of waiting to round 2 for a WR. How about WRs Drake London or Chris Olave. Both could well be there at pick 22 and maybe one of them still there at 28 (I passed on Treylon Burks because a lot of his catches are contested and Rodgers doesn't like throwing the ball up for grabs).

The Packers could go for DL Winfree or Edge Cameron Smith at 28, DLs Leal or Travis Jones or Edge Boye Mafe at 53......... and a nice TE at 59 too. Add a solid developmental RT in the third like Abraham Lucas and most of the positions in need of higher-level replacement have been addressed.

The likely positions players are taken in this draft will still continue to evolve for a while yet, so some of my suggestions may end up being either too early or late.

If WR, DL, Edge, TE, OL are addressed in the first three rounds, you can then add depth at safety, get a second WR (hopefully one who can handle ST return duties, an interior O lineman, and an inside LB................... and still have two picks left in round 7 to get a couple of the higher rated late pick/RFA guys.

If there was ever a year to knock the draft out of the park this is that year, given the cap problems in Green Bays future and the amount of quality picks they have in this year's draft.

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Minniman's picture

March 19, 2022 at 01:07 pm

I still believe that they draft BPA in the upcoming draft.

That said, this year's Edge and WR drafts have depth - so on the WR front I foresee some loading up with this position (but from a BPA slant).

That said, the Packers desperately need another deep threat - both for coverage for the hopefully-re-signed MVS as well as an alternate double go route option on some plays.

I'll personally be interested in see how Amari Rodgers progresses in his second year. He's definitely not the speed option that I spoke of above, but he was far, far more productive in college........ and has better hands than he's demonstrated in the pros thus far.

Justyn Ross could be an intriguing late round flyer project for the Packers. He's got major injury red flags, but runs very good routes and has great hands. Some injury free time could see him return to his previous best balling.

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dobber's picture

March 18, 2022 at 11:13 am

You're prescient: apparently the Packers are close to a deal to bring MVS back.

I'm optimistic that his market value wasn't nearly as high as he'd hoped, and he'll be cheaper than what was projected.

But, yes, they absolutely need speed.

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Coldworld's picture

March 18, 2022 at 11:25 am

Good. Then we need a number one/two FA. With Lazard, that would give us 2 credible regular snap types and blocking and speed covered. Cobb is a luxury limited snap piece, but with MVS we can look to draft and also find a FA who can help without having to pay for deep speed.

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Leatherhead's picture

March 18, 2022 at 01:19 pm

We need a #1 WR. Lazard, Cobb, and Amari make 3 more, and we usually only dress 5 and carry 6 on the 53 man roster. If, in fact, we bring MVS back, then I only see one guy we need: A legit #1.

You've also got these guys like Malik Taylor who should certainly be able to do some duty in a pinch. It's not numbers we need, it's a #1 who can convert 3rd and 8 and keep us on the field.

Also, the whole "speed" thing......
It take 0.2 seconds to blink. Two tenths of a second. So a guy who runs a blazing 4.3 is the blink of an eye faster than a 4.5 guy and two blinks faster than a lumbering 4.7 guy. In underwear, over 40 yards. That's the difference.

Personally, I can think of multiple attributes I'd rather have in a WR than speed. Quickness, ball playing skills, good route running, durability, blocking ability, good hands, deceptiveness, etc. etc.

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Coldworld's picture

March 18, 2022 at 01:27 pm

I want my receivers to be more than speed, as long as I have at least one whom other teams accept can take the top off, especially against the defenses we struggle with most. Arguably the lack of speed against SF was a key factor in the offenses struggling. A year before it was MVS with over a 100 yards.

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BirdDogUni's picture

March 18, 2022 at 01:39 pm

You just made a great case for bringing MVS back. (I actually hope we do.) Pay him fairly and bring him back. He has grown as a player, and with some luck I think he can easily be a viable #2 WR.

Then go out in the draft and get a viable #1 WR. Hell with 11 picks, I'm going to draft at least 2 guys I think can be viable #1 WRs, since the draft is a 50/50 proposition on a good day.

I am sure Gutey is looking around the league maybe to trade for a WR too, but I would hate to speculate for who. We will see, but I have no doubt Gutey will restock the WR room sooner than later.

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greengold's picture

March 18, 2022 at 01:57 pm

I just do not see it. MVS, in a contract year, had his 2nd lowest Y/R and Catch % totals… a likely faster WR who will do same can very likely be had with one of our two R2 picks!

Get the fast, lightening fast #1 WR with all the goods in R1: hands, separation, route running, reliability, toughness, YAC and speed.

Add the MVS replacement R2. Save the cap $ for use elsewhere.

MVS Catch % in 2021 was an embarrassing 48%. No way should that be for a 4 yr. veteran.

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Coldworld's picture

March 18, 2022 at 04:28 pm

For the first time, MVS missed several games and he also played others hindered. That’s good now because he could have played himself out of our league and likely will want a shorter prove it deal now and it will be easy to structure incentives that won’t show on this year’s cap too.

A note. I see the catch rate in the 40s from a few sources. Dig a little deeper and find “catchable” adjusted ratings and he’s in the mid-upper 50s. I have to say, that more closely fits my recollection. Perhaps memory skews, but that works both ways.

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k.rock87's picture

March 18, 2022 at 05:08 pm

I totally agree with getting a WR in the first. One that would be our WR #2 behind Lizard (because of the trust Rodgers has in Lizard, I think Lizard will be WR #1, unless we get one in FA). I don't think very many draft picks, even 1st rounders are high caliber plug 'n play players.

I also think we should get a WR in R2 that can be MVS' replacement. As I definitely think that the only thing MVS had was his inability to be consistent, especially when we needed it! I cringed every time Rodgers had to throw to him.

Sorry to see Devante leave, though it was his choice, I wish him well but....

The Packers will do just fine!!!

Go Pack Go!

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greengold's picture

March 18, 2022 at 11:52 am

Eh. There’s a shit ton of speed at WR in this draft. Throwing dollars we cannot afford at MVS does not balance any scales in GB. I love the guy, but MVS, even at a lesser figure, still seems cost prohibitive to me.

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Coldworld's picture

March 18, 2022 at 12:08 pm

I don’t expect much from rookie receivers in year one. We also need depth if we are serious. Bring back MVS, draft too and we are closer to having a corps for the next few years not in the next few. We can then pick up a FA to help fill the Adams gap in the interim.

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greengold's picture

March 18, 2022 at 12:23 pm

Totally understand where you’re coming from. Dependent entirely on the circumstances. Rodgers has shown little trust, yet, I wonder how that might change with a Justin Jefferson like talent added R1? Or, if Rodgers would be a factor at all?

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

March 18, 2022 at 12:41 pm

Theres nobody as good as justin jefferson in this draft.

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PatrickGB's picture

March 18, 2022 at 02:35 pm

There might be, Jameson Williams but he is injured right now. Pundits still predict that he will still go high in the draft.

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

March 18, 2022 at 09:24 pm

Williams is just fast. He doesnt have Jefferson's skill. Not even close. And like you mentioned, he's hurt and will be hard-pressed to play a single snap this year. I wouldnt draft him in the 1st. Maybe 2nd round if he falls. If i absolutely have to take a receiver, I'm taking George Pickens or David Bell in that order. Theyre the two most pro ready guys i see.

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Coldworld's picture

March 18, 2022 at 01:35 pm

I would love a Jefferson talent, but I also love what we can do without trading one if our firsts. I also love what having a Jefferson type opposite MVS would do to defenses. I think we will get MVS cheaper on a prove it type deal and then pick up a FA on a similar one and draft a couple, one very early at least.

Draftee, Lazard, MVS, FA, Cobb, AmRod, Draftee, Winfree isn’t a bad line up heading into camp.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

March 18, 2022 at 11:31 pm

I'm with you on everyone except Cobb and AmRod. I really do not understand the attraction to Cobb - other than as one of Rodgers frat pals. He always misses games every year plus he's slowed down plus Rodgers doesn't throw to him. Truly a waste of salary. As for AmRod - he'll need to make a big leap this year. Unfortunately, he reminds me too much of Darrius Shepherd.

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greengold's picture

March 18, 2022 at 11:55 am

Agree completely on Adams. Add to that, he can’t take the top off any defense. Adams is simply not a burner. Rather, the best intermediate range possession WR in the NFL.

As for MVS, ton of cheap burners in this draft. He’ll cost more than GB is now able to pay, and the value in limited use falls into “HARD NO” land. I mean, what are we talking about in terms of targets for MVS? Number of plays where he can make an impact?

I’d much rather throw our remaining monies at Rasul Douglas.

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Coldworld's picture

March 18, 2022 at 12:10 pm

Per TGR. We have about 9 million in spendable cap. Should be able to have a real chance to pick up both MVS and Douglas if we split the cap charge.

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greengold's picture

March 18, 2022 at 12:30 pm

I think TGR’s point was directed more at how fast $9M can be chewed thru. No money left for Mercedes Lewis, Bob Tonyan, Yosh Nijman, etc…

Personally, I don’t see anywhere Rodgers-MVS was a consistent connection to be counted on. Quite the opposite. I get it though. There’s much sentiment, rightly so, for his abilities to take the top off a D, and the positive impact of that alone on our O overall.

The way I see it, we can save the dough and add 2 of those guys easy in this draft for far less, well into day two.

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Coldworld's picture

March 18, 2022 at 04:14 pm

He was responding to my query about how much of the 20 ish million saved cap needed to be held on to. His answer was about 11 million, leaving about 9 million free.

“ Draft, PS, 52/53, $5M piggy bank = ~$11M. ~$9M to spend.

GB could spend the $9M on Douglas ($4M to $5M first year cap number for him leaves about the same to spend on ?)”

TGR earlier today on a prior thread, going on to note that the freed cap would go fast.

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dobber's picture

March 18, 2022 at 07:10 pm

Lewis is under contract.

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HankScorpio's picture

March 18, 2022 at 12:53 pm

"Secondly, while a good WR he isn't the best WR in the league."

I disagree. He is the best in the league. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy about the haul in return and happy they did not fork out $141 mil. But that does not change my view of him as a player.

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Leatherhead's picture

March 18, 2022 at 06:45 pm

I have to ask: If the best WR in the league, with an MVP QB, cannot move the ball and score points in the playoffs, how important are superduper receivers?

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

March 18, 2022 at 09:25 pm

Bingo.

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HankScorpio's picture

March 19, 2022 at 04:56 am

Leatherhead,

If I thought you were open to an honest discussion, I'd give an answer. Since I firmly believe you just want to argue on the internet, I'll pass.

Good luck finding someone to argue on the internet with you. Not my cup of tea but I hope you get all you care to drink.

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Leatherhead's picture

March 21, 2022 at 09:57 am

I thought it was an honest and fair question.

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BirdDogUni's picture

March 18, 2022 at 10:22 am

Cliché City -

"It's a young man's game."

"Better a year early than a year late."

"NFL is a game of replacement."

Time to move on from DA and replace him. I don't know who/how they will replace him, but someone will get more targets simply because DA isn't on the roster.

We can easily get Lazard more involved in the pass catching portion of the offense.

Gutey has the flexibility to draft multiple WRs and I expect him to do so with both of our 2nd round picks, but he might surprise us and take a WR in the 1st round this year, depending on who is available.

A viable option at TE would certainly help this team. We haven't had one in like 3 decades. : )

Fact: We all loved Davante Adams, but when it's time to move on and you get the #22 and #53 overall picks for him, you have to do it.

I have no doubt if all goes well in the draft we will have a better overall roster than last year. (Looking at you Cw...) ; ) Lol

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Coldworld's picture

March 18, 2022 at 12:12 pm

It’s interesting that he was more interested in Carr and Vegas than dancing with AR again. That does raise some questions about commonly voiced perceptions of those involved.

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Swisch's picture

March 18, 2022 at 12:33 pm

As Alberta_Packer seemed to say yesterday, this wasn't a masterful decision by the front office, because our execs for the Packers apparently offered the same money as did the Raiders.
It seems a matter of luck that Davante Adams preferred the Raiders, or we would have his humungous contract hanging over us as well as that of Aaron Rodgers.
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Which does raise the question of why Davante chose Derek Carr and the Raiders over Rodgers and the Packers.
I mean, that would have seemed unthinkable just a day ago, right?
If Adams is so tight with Rodgers, and the Packers are so close to the Super Bowl, and the money was the same in both places, why would Davante go to Las Vegas?
In a few years, after he retires, Davante could live wherever he wants. Was he in such a hurry to go to Vegas right now? Maybe, maybe not.
Perhaps all the explanations are simply personal preferences by Davante that don't have a negative connotation to Rodgers or anyone else.
However, hasn't Rodgers told us in his slyly smug way that his stellar presence in the wastelands of Green Bay is such a big factor as to why top players want to play for the Packers? Do I have that pretty much correct?
Now, his top receiver leaves after being offered the same money to stay?
Again, maybe it's all innocent. However, it's worth inquiring into other possible reasons as to why Davante didn't want to stay with Rodgers, especially as far as what it might tell us about the character of our mysterious quarterback.

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

March 18, 2022 at 01:17 pm

It seems pretty likely to me that Adams felt somehow disrespected by GB throughout the negotiations. He didn't seem happy that he had not already been extended before playing out the 2021 season. So I think he had bad feelings towards the FO. And maybe he thinks playing in warmer weather will extend his career longer than playing in Lambeau. And, he and Carr are very good friends. Doesn't mean he wasn't friendly with Rodgers though.

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Coldworld's picture

March 18, 2022 at 04:35 pm

Disrespected or not, he got offered more here (or equivalent) and the chance to play with Rodgers who feeds him constantly. That has to raise questions about why he preferred Carr. Adams, by his own admission viewed this as a purely business decision and, supposedly Rodgers, the MVP, should be an irresistible draw, especially for Adams, one would think.

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Pantz_Burp's picture

March 18, 2022 at 03:05 pm

Yep, Rodgers is quoted as saying players come to Green Bay to play with him, the team and the opportunity to win championships (he said this as a reason to have more say in decisions that affect his job)...

Now, I saw a post on another site that made me laugh. This isn't really fair and I will add, none of my business when it comes to Rodgers and his family. Heck, probably most families have members that can be challenging to communicate with no matter what. But the person said something like, Davante was like a brother to Aaron...so this makes sense.

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BirdDogUni's picture

March 18, 2022 at 01:27 pm

I think it was just the fact that the FO didn't capitulate when he wanted a new contract last season and they refused. Once the season started, DA was a professional and played like only he can. Once the season was over, he'd already made up his mind he wasn't coming back and wanted to go home. (I know the Raiders moved to Vegas, but it was his team growing up and his college homie was in Vegas as well.)

Some people, once they make up their mind will not be swayed no matter what. (Like you thinking we'd have a weaker roster this year.) ; P

I think that was DA's stance and he stuck with it. I don't blame him. If you or I wanted to move to Vegas, we'd pick up and leave tomorrow. (In fact, I moved to Vegas in July '92, when I got out of the military.)

My point is: Once they refused to extend him before the season last year, he wasn't coming back for any amount of money, because he made up his mind, and he wasn't changing it. Right or wrong, he made a choice.

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Coldworld's picture

March 18, 2022 at 02:26 pm

I do think we will, but the Adams move might this get us closer this year or at least over the next couple. That’s just math though.

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Rebecca's picture

March 18, 2022 at 04:08 pm

Evidently Adams was ticked about the franchise tag so he trashed Rodgers, and referred to the Packers as the Washington of the North. If true, he’s a dick and won’t get a Ring or a spot in the GB hall of fame.

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Coldworld's picture

March 18, 2022 at 04:37 pm

I had not seen that. Do you know where that’s reported?

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Pierre's picture

March 18, 2022 at 04:54 pm

Because DA knows that Rodgers is not a winning QB under the pressure of playoff games and continues to underperform in NFC championship games (1-4) and playoffs, even at Lambeau. Rodgers has a losing record in playoff games and the Packers just prolonged his stay inGreen Bay at the cost of a lot of other important players this team needs to re-sign. 12 years removed from his one SB and the futility may reach 16 years without a SB appearance.

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The_Justicar's picture

March 18, 2022 at 07:51 pm

This is a pretty bad take for why Adams left. Was he enticed by Carr’s 0-1 playoff record and 69 playoff qb rating? Or maybe it was Carrs record vs teams that ended the season with a winning record (through 2020 didn’t have the stat for 2021 sitting in front of me) of 14-45, a nice winning percentage of .237.

Adams may have left for many reasons that we can only speculate on, but Rodgers failure to win under pressure is likely not one of them, since then Adams would have think Carr is a qb who thrives vs great competition under pressure. When Carr is actually far below average vs good teams and has never even won a playoff game.

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BirdDogUni's picture

March 18, 2022 at 08:09 pm

I'd say he left for the guaranteed money. ; )

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Tundraboy's picture

March 18, 2022 at 09:34 pm

I totally agree. Very much looking forward to the draft, and FAs.

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4thand1's picture

March 18, 2022 at 10:37 am

This the NFL, the business. It happens everywhere, the Patriots let Brady walk! The Packers have o-line needs, d-line, J Alexander to take care of. They have a running game, an all pro QB. They've won games without Adams and have options in the draft and FA. They will get a WR with 4 PICKS IN THE FIRST TWO ROUNDS. Adams was a 2nd round pick, AR was the main reason he is where he is. Remember Jennings, was great until no AR, Jordy left and left the WR conversation of great WR's, J Walker, lmao,left GB and was never heard from again. Antonio Brown, Julio jones, the list goes on. In the end why go through more drama if Adams refused to play in GB, he got what HE WANTED. The last 2 years ended with AR trying to force the ball to Adams and the team lost.

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Irish_Cheesehead's picture

March 18, 2022 at 11:52 am

It was pretty obvious all season that Rodgers was padding Adams stats for a big payday. Good for Adams. Get it when you can, but I’d be shocked if he has even close to the same production in LV.

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greengold's picture

March 18, 2022 at 12:34 pm

To the detriment of the Packers getting to another Super Bowl, if we’re being perfectly honest here.

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

March 18, 2022 at 01:50 pm

Wow, that's a jump. Was Stafford also "padding" Kupp's stats? If GB lost a bunch of games, and Adams was over-targeted, I'd say you MIGHT have an argument. But since it was an incredibly productive offense and Adams the most productive players, padding stats has nothing to do with this. Do I like it when Rodgers shares the targets more? Sure. But it's a huge jump to Rodgers padding stats for Adams.

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Pierre's picture

March 18, 2022 at 05:00 pm

Packers had an incredibly productive offense until the playoffs and the 49ers…when Rodgers again underperformed against a good defense and went meekly out of the playoffs. He’s like Payton Manning, good in the regular season; lousy under pressure in the playoffs where teams beat him even at Lambeau.

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 18, 2022 at 05:19 pm

Who were the players starting for the O line. That was the key to that game before the whistle even sounded.

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Coldworld's picture

March 18, 2022 at 06:14 pm

One reason why I draw attention to the coaching.

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

March 18, 2022 at 09:46 pm

If thats the case, maybe Rodgers shouldve handed it off more or thrown it to the open guy instead of holding on to the ball waiting for the bigger play. Dillon only had 7 carries before he got hurt in a game they led from the get-go. And everyone knows Rodgers has full control over the offense so he only has himself to blame.

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stockholder's picture

March 18, 2022 at 10:40 am

I say he can be replaced. With a Better group of field stretching WRs. It took Adams 3 years. Give Rodgers all the credit in the world. He made him better. But Rodgers had nothing to do with his improvement , off the LOS. He still dropped clutch passes. And he will in Vegas. But don't think for one minute he can't be replaced. The problem is " how much" you want to spend to do it. A #1 for sure. But the cap savings , could save this Franchise from a bigger problem. And with that #2 pick. You just might replace MVS too. Another 10 mil saved. (From another who isn't clutch.) So whats the plan. Williams of Alabama? Maybe 5 guys better then MVS? And if you ever wanted two guys from the Ohio State program. What a set/step up for Rodgers. He No longer has to think of Adams. And neither do any of us.

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 18, 2022 at 05:21 pm

Keep it rollin'.

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Tundraboy's picture

March 18, 2022 at 09:50 pm

Thumbs up to a great post!

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ImaPayne's picture

March 18, 2022 at 10:49 am

I've been known to beat Gutt and the Packer Org like an old muel at times. The Davate Adams trade was brilliant. Love it. Your getting a one and two pick for a 30 year old in a year the draft is absolutely loaded with superb receivers.
QB's not so but receivers, heck two from Bama alone could light it up light and Adams. Fast, sure handed, elusive.
No the Pack did good, not to mention they can keep Douglas with the extra money they saved. Bravo Packers.

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calabasa's picture

March 18, 2022 at 10:56 am

Yes we gotta give thanks for a franchise like LV, who is willing to let us off the hook like that. Best wishes to Davante, I hope he finds whatever he was lacking in GB. He must have a lot of faith in David Carr’s ability, or maybe it was a respect/$$ issue. Either way, thank you Raiders!

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Coldworld's picture

March 18, 2022 at 11:29 am

It starts to sound like a known-in-advance trade and tag. Vegas and Adams wanted it enough not to want to bid on the open market or just to get it done. I think all knew in advance. If so, kudos to Gute for the haul.

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dobber's picture

March 18, 2022 at 11:14 am

Given that some were hoping to get anything better than a compensatory 3rd in 2023, this is a gold mine.

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Pantz_Burp's picture

March 18, 2022 at 10:57 am

This is such an interesting time to see how things play out for the organization. It will be fascinating to see how Gute, Murphy, Ball and to an extent Matt steer the G-ship in somewhat new, unchartered waters...trying to keep the SB window open while also looking towards the future.

I would truly love to see/hear first hand all the decisions being made by the FO in real time, including the how and the why.

Thank goodness for technology and forums like this! I get to learn others reasons into how they come up with their decisions and share my thoughts as well. Right, wrong or indifferent...we at least get to share our opinions with folks that are as passionate about the Pack as I (we) am!

This draft and the lead up to it, followed by trading camp, etc... wow...

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NickPerry's picture

March 18, 2022 at 11:12 am

"Packers have Opportunity to Better Round Out Rest of Roster"

Thanks Paul...I gave you a "Thumbs Up" just on the title of the story. I agree with that 100% too. Trading Adams was a GREAT move by Gute as long as he brings in a veteran WR, like a Smith-Schuster for example. The market is drying up fast but I have another thought...

TRADE for a WR...CALL Seattle and see if they can trade for DK Metcalf or Tyler Lockett for example. Call some other other teams who might be willing to trade a WR. Or how about Robert Woods? He knows MLF's scheme and would be perfect in this offense. Hell, how about a trade and Smith Schuster?

No matter what the Packers are ARMED with amination to make this team better. I'm SO HAPPY about this trade. Having the highest paid LT, QB, soon to be CB, Kenny Clark, Preston Smith, and then what Adams wanted? Forget about it!

I trust Gute... He's shown to be a pretty damn good GM and hopefully this pays off. No matter what, things just got REALLY interesting!

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dobber's picture

March 18, 2022 at 11:16 am

As unhappy as I was with the capitulation to #12, and what seems like a chaotic run in terms of roster management at times, I'm at least happy that they're seeming to try something different and not running the whole thing back at exorbitant prices.

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Cubbygold's picture

March 18, 2022 at 11:35 am

Some irony that this will be Adam's last play in a Packer uniform...

https://twitter.com/BenFennell_NFL/status/1485261036404027393?ref_src=tw...

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greengold's picture

March 18, 2022 at 12:50 pm

OOOF!!!

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Swisch's picture

March 18, 2022 at 03:17 pm

With the score tied late in the game, on that play Lazard would have caught a pass from Rodgers approaching midfield with no defenders anywhere near him.
The three defenders between Lazard and the end zone are some twenty yards behind him, and running fast away from Lazard (toward the end zone) to cover Adams and ESB.
All of which seems to mean that Lazard would have likely run the ball into scoring territory, at least to field goal range inside the 30-yard-line, at most all the way in for a touchdown.
If Lazard scores a touchdown on that play, I doubt the 49ers come back to score one to tie -- since they didn't score a touchdown on offense all game.
If Lazard doesn't score a touchdown, the Packers can run more clock down before kicking a field goal. That gives the 49ers less time to kick a field goal to tie -- as it turned out, it took the 49ers until the last seconds of the game to kick the winning field goal.
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It all adds up to an epic fail by Rodgers, one of the worst blunders in the history of the NFL playoffs, really and truly.
After all, Lazard is crossing the middle of the field right in front of the eyes of Rodgers.
If Rodgers didn't see him, this means that Rodgers made a massive oversight, and may have some larger defect in reading the field for secondary receivers.
If Rodgers did see Lazard, and stubbornly forced it to Adams anyway, the judgement of Rodgers was incredibly horrible.
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The thing is, has anyone asked Rodgers about this? Does he get a pass after basically blowing this playoff game for us as fans and ruining the Packers run to the Super Bowl?
It's outrageous to let this slide by without tons of attention, especially before giving Rodgers a new contract of staggering proportions.
Was Rodgers incompetent in not seeing Lazard running free, or lacking in character in refusing to throw to him? Is there any other plausible explanation?
Could we at least ask Rodgers, even now, to perhaps encourage in him a fair measure of humility that would help him to be a better person and a better player in the future?
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If we're going to be hard on Bostick for dropping an onside kick against the Seahawks in the playoffs, shouldn't our superstar quarterback -- making so much more money and garnering so much more glamor -- get even more scrutiny and criticism?
It seems to me that in this epic fail against the 49ers, Rodgers demonstrated that entrusting the leadership position of quarterback to an arrogant loser off the field will almost inevitably mean that he'll let us down, sooner or later, as a loser on the field.
He'll break our hearts just when we think we've got it made.
Did we really just sign up for more of the same at some $50 million per season for three long years of dependency on this guy?
Insanity!
[Don't forget the playoff game the previous year against the Bucs, when Rodgers failed to get the Packers into the endzone with first-and-goal from the 8-yard-line.]

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Pantz_Burp's picture

March 18, 2022 at 03:53 pm

I hear ya switch...loud and clear! Not sure if he was asked this question or if so, what his response was. Maybe others who know will chime in? Either way, thanks for bringing this back into the light.

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Swisch's picture

March 18, 2022 at 05:47 pm

I don't want to be too hard on Rodgers; but since he has put himself forth as the venerable superstar who wants a voice in how the team is run, and wants top dollar, I don't think it's being too hard on Rodgers to analyze his play at quarterback, his actual role with the Packers.
As a big fan of Rodgers over the years, I long for the days when I just knew him as a quarterback -- not as an intrusive assistant-GM, not as a meddling pseudo-coach, not as a holdout before last season, not as a threat to walk away from the team this offseason, not as an arrogant attention-seeker of intrigue with an endless series of cryptic messages for us to decipher.
I would go so far as to say I've been a huge fan of Rodgers until recently, and would be so very glad if he gave some signs that he's worthy of us as Packers fans again.
I'm not asking for him to abase himself -- but a little regret, a little humility, a little indication that he's going to do this or that differently in the future . . .
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As an example, I was trying to give Rodgers a chance to show some change of attitude all this past season, hoping for some subtle indications that were nonetheless significant.
Then, what really angered me was when he seemed to say he was determined to play the meaningless game against the Lions at the end of the regular season before apparently checking it out with his head coach, Matt What's-His-Name.
I mean, in the clinching game against the Vikings the previous week, announcer Cris Collinsworth assumed on the air that Rodgers would not risk injury by playing against the Lions -- and remember all the drama with Rodgers' painful pinky toe possibly keeping him out of action. Of course, Collinsworth isn't the last word on what the Packers should do in any given situation; but of course, neither is Rodgers, lest we forget.
This was after Rodgers had seemed to go over the head of his head coach -- LaFlower, or something like that -- in deciding for himself not to play in preseason games as meaningless contests of injury risk. After all, the offense could prepare itself just fine in practice, according to Rodgers, a claim he never revoked even after the awful season-opener against the Saints.
With Rodgers indeed playing in the last game against the Lions, it seems this was likely the reason other starters also played -- which seemed to result in huge injuries to Bakh and MVS, both of whom were out against the 49ers in the playoffs.
So, for one thing, I'd like to see real evidence that Rodgers will be more coachable.
I'd also like to see our head coach not be so much of a pansy, as it appears. I like to think that Matt LaFleur -- that's his name -- has it in him, as did the cowardly lion in The Wizard of Oz:
"I know there's no denyin', I'm just a dandelion, without the vim and verve; but I could show my prowess, be a lion, not a mouse, if I only had the nerve" -- or close to those words, I think.
I'm still rooting for LaFleur to step up as head coach, and for Rodgers to stand down from interfering with him to just play quarterback -- which is enough of a challenge for anyone in aiming for a Super Bowl.
Then, things would begin to get right again in Packerdom.

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Pantz_Burp's picture

March 18, 2022 at 06:54 pm

Thanks Swisch, you put it into words much better than I ever could. I appreciate you taking the time to put your thoughts into words at length...where I have much respect for you is that you aren't throwing in the towel for Rodgers. You are actually hoping for signs to be able to be a big fan of his again. That is cool! I am right there...waiting as well...

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Leatherhead's picture

March 18, 2022 at 11:41 am

Paul, I love that you used the word "Opportunity", because it's one of my Top 10 words. Before my kids could understand words I drilled it into their brains, and I'm sure every student I ever had got sick and tired of me saying "Opportunity is all around you". I believe it to my core.

Football is a game of replacement. The organization replaced Lombardi and Starr (yeah, it took a long time, they screwed it up a lot, and we failed a bunch of times until we succeeded.) We replaced Sharpe. We replaced Reggie, and Woody, and the previous QB before Rodgers. We replaced Nick Collins (again, we had some missteps and it took a while). And we'll replace Adams.

This isn't like we lost Adams to age or injury. We're making a Choice, and that's another one of my favorite words. You think things through as best you can and then you have to make a choice.

As Coldworld once said , "The past is no longer an option". Now, on this cool, sunny morning, we have exponentially increased our future options. I'm more excited about the draft, but there may be a use for a couple of moderately priced vets in a few key spots, like offensive line or WR.

We have picks. We could trade picks for players we like, who could contribute immediately. I've said this a bunch of times, but Hockenson would be really useful here.

First, he's one of the better TEs in the league. He's on a rookie deal yet. And best of all, he plays for Detroit, which could find a way to screw up a two car hillbilly funeral. Why shouldn't we try to fleece them? Make a run at this guy!

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Pantz_Burp's picture

March 18, 2022 at 11:45 am

Nicely stated Leather... opportunity and choice.

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 18, 2022 at 05:27 pm

And it begat Opportunity and Cost...

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greengold's picture

March 18, 2022 at 12:46 pm

Kudos, my friend, on this great share of your thoughts and perspectives.

Bobby Tonyan broke a record (?) for TDS by a TE…? I mean, he’s good. I just don’t see trades being realistic with Rodgers still here. Tonyan re-signing might prove a lot less expensive coming off injury on a prove it deal. Not to mention, those picks are quite valuable.

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Pantz_Burp's picture

March 18, 2022 at 04:05 pm

Not that this was in Rodgers head in the thick of a playoff game...but if he knew Davante was probably gone after the season...maybe tossing it one last time to his bud to "say, thanks and bye".

Just a random thought, hopefully not a randumb thought. :)

Edited: after further review, this was a really RANDUMB rambling on my part. Oh well, back to the drawing board and the Packer Sweep...

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JQ's picture

March 18, 2022 at 12:30 pm

Trading Davante reminds me of the movie 'MoneyBall.' I agree with the idea that Davante per se cannot be replaced; but perhaps his PRODUCTION can be replaced by committee. In my opinion this is what the Packers will try and do.

They can replentish Wide Receivers via free agent (including MVS), draft, perhaps another trade. But they have many other position players to replace yards gained and touchdowns. AJ and Aaron Jones, and hopefully a second year Amari Rodgers, the Tight End/H-Back types.

I expect Green Bay to draft a Tight End on the second day and to double up on WR the second and third days. But that's another narrative...

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Irish_Cheesehead's picture

March 18, 2022 at 11:47 am

So stoked for the draft this year and to see Rodgers without Adams as his crutch. Time for Gute to prove it in the draft and free agency and Rodgers to prove it on the field. Brady did it year after year with JAG receivers. Time for the highest paid player in the history of the league to prove he’s worth all that money! GO PACK!!

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Coldworld's picture

March 18, 2022 at 12:23 pm

If a receiver can get open then the catch rate is about one in two even on deep plays. Brady may have had jags, but they or BB knew how to get them open. Perhaps Adams going reopens the opportunity for the illusion of complexity by not only increasing the distribution of targets but personnel. We were better when we were still seeing that phrase embodied on the field.

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Cubbygold's picture

March 18, 2022 at 12:27 pm

MLF has to be excited for the challenge, and the opportunity to show that he can design plays well enough to get guys open

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Irish_Cheesehead's picture

March 18, 2022 at 12:40 pm

Receivers can be open, but as we’ve seen the QB also has to throw them the ball. We definitely had some games where guys were not getting open, but other games (see last playoff game) where guys were wide open and Rodgers still forced it into Adams. Hoping that changes now with Adams in LV. I’m looking forward to seeing how this team looks in the fall. Sure makes things interesting!

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greengold's picture

March 18, 2022 at 01:00 pm

No kidding, Irish. Agree!

I’m looking forward to adding a top WR, a legit #1 WR talent, WITH the deep speed to also take the top off a D. That was the only problem, consistently with DA. Zero deep speed.

Having quality separation, great route running, great hands PLUS deep speed at the #1 and adding another at the #2 or 3 is going to be a dynamic change for the positive in LaFleur’s system.

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Lphill's picture

March 18, 2022 at 05:42 pm

Deshaun Watson got a bigger deal .

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4thand1's picture

March 18, 2022 at 12:48 pm

The draft is LOADED with WR talent. Many are NFL ready right out of the gate in today's college game. Prime example, viqueens let diggs go (queens fans were screaming bloody murder) and replaced him with Jefferson.

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Ya_tittle's picture

March 18, 2022 at 04:44 pm

OR Chase with the Bengals!

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gpt999's picture

March 18, 2022 at 01:04 pm

Yes, yes, yes! This was the right move for the Pack! I am surprised their management group came up with it and that Gutes got good value for Adams via draft choices.

Too bad Rodgers was signed to such a ludicrous contract. But 1 for 2 isn't so bad given GBs management structure...

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Coldworld's picture

March 18, 2022 at 02:37 pm

I’d be happier if I didn’t know that we tried to out bid Las Vegas. I really do feel that Gute is a good GM being corrupted by Murphy’s objectives.

Had we traded both, my goodness, where could we be rather than this medium term, bank breaking rental of Rodgers? We now might get close to as good as last year, for 150 million plus and cap penury to come.

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MooPack's picture

March 18, 2022 at 01:43 pm

For those fans of Edge David Ojabo, he just went down with non-contact injury at Pro day. Planted foot, pushed off, and went down. Packers probably didn't have a shot at him as he is graded higher, but this would mean that lower Edge rushers will be pushed up. George Karlaftis was one I was watching drop to within the Packers reach. Now? Not so much. Does Boye Mafe now move up past the Packers pick? He is most likely the last of the potential 1st round rushers.

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splitpea1's picture

March 18, 2022 at 03:21 pm

We can now fill plenty of needs, including adding OL depth due to our recent losses. I just hope Gute isn't tempted do any trading up with those first five picks; keep them all! I know he won't be able to resist doing something, though, so hopefully he can wait until at least the fourth round this time.

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Dragon5's picture

March 18, 2022 at 03:53 pm

Now that Aaron's blankie is gone and Watson's out of the way, would Aaron consider PHI for their 3 1sts THIS YEAR? Would dome teams, ATL, NO, IND inquire? CLE's reluctance to give up on Watson may inspire other teams to go for it.

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

March 18, 2022 at 05:05 pm

It would cost the Packers $128 million in dead cap money to trade Rodgers now. Its not happening.

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NickPerry's picture

March 18, 2022 at 04:14 pm

Gute NEEDS to sign a veteran WR...Juju just signed with the Chiefs TE Hooper with the Titans. Those were two I'd like to have seen them take a run at... Hooper was only $6 million a year...SMH

If they bring back MVS and overpay for him I'll be pretty bummed...Common Gute..get to friggen wirk

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egbertsouse's picture

March 18, 2022 at 05:12 pm

Please Gute, don’t use the extra cap room to sign the same old JAGs again. You know who I mean; Lancaster, King, MVS, Tonyan, etc. Thank heaven somebody took ESB and Burkes off your hands.
Improve the team, man, don’t put the band back together. You already traded the lead guitar, keep getting some new players.

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Wilment's picture

March 18, 2022 at 05:52 pm

So here we are in day one of "Life after Devante". First id like to say, he isnt going to be replaced by anyone currently on the roste, that being said I dont know that going in on a guy like OBJ who wont play the first part of the season, or spending on an aging Julio Jones. Resign MVS for three years at about seven million per, and use those first round picks. Olave could be your new number one Kid is a great route runner, and even when he wasnt being thrown to, he was open. I figure in round one we ought to be able to get a good wr, a good edge rusher or a starting o lineman. As for a number two receiver? Hes already there, wears number 33. As a d coodinator, he would scare me more in space because you know hes going to draw a linebacker in coverage. In GUTY we trust. GO PACK GO!!

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MarkinMadison's picture

March 18, 2022 at 08:42 pm

The wide receiver room basically needed to be blown up and rebuilt. Past Adams there were no consistent options in the room. MVS and Rodgers seemed to be out of sync more often than not, his hands were o.k. and his availability was poor. Lazard can have his moments but is he good enough to be a legit #2? Hard to tell. Past that, are few guys who contributed a little here and there. Putting all of the eggs in Davante's basket might have sounded good, but the extra draft picks and the cap space create the opportunity to build a much more balanced room. A far better option IMHO.

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MooPack's picture

March 19, 2022 at 03:21 pm

Rasul Douglas back in the fold.

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