Packers and Jets agree to terms on Aaron Rodgers trade

NFL Network reports that a deal has been agreed to to send the four time MVP to New York. 

Finally. 

From Demovsly and ESPN:

The Packers agreed Monday to deal quarterback Aaron Rodgers and their 2023 first round pick (No. 15 overall) and a 2023 fifth-round pick (No. 170) to the Jets for New York's 2023 first-round pick (No. 13 overall), a 2023 second round pick (No. 42), a 2023 sixth-round pick (No. 207) and a conditional 2024 second-ro0und pick that becomes a first if Rodgers plays 65% of the plays this season, sources told ESPN's Adam Schefter on Monday.

 

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dobber's picture

April 24, 2023 at 03:41 pm

It...is...finished...

Now go pick some world-beaters!

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TKWorldWide's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:13 pm

World beaters > egg beaters

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TKWorldWide's picture

April 25, 2023 at 01:32 pm

I guess I underestimated the loyalty to egg beaters!

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greengold's picture

April 25, 2023 at 02:01 pm

Totally.

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Guam's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:15 pm

Yes! And a slightly better deal than I hoped for and decent compensation for a 39 year old HOF player. I will miss his talent but it was time to build for the future.

Best wishes for a bright future to Jordan Love and Go Pack Go!

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dobber's picture

April 24, 2023 at 06:47 pm

"Yes! And a slightly better deal than I hoped for"

Two years in a row where the Packers have only one suitor (Adams, Rodgers) and could get really hosed, but do just fine.

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greengold's picture

April 25, 2023 at 02:02 pm

That truly is remarkable.

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Spawny's picture

April 25, 2023 at 05:50 am

My crystal ball says Love will lead the league in interceptions this year. The quarterback learning curve is very steep in the NFL.

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TKWorldWide's picture

April 25, 2023 at 01:33 pm

My crystal ball says otherwise.

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Packerpasty's picture

April 26, 2023 at 09:52 am

why not?? He led all of college in INT's..

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JerseyAl's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:26 pm

According to Tom Pellissero, Rodgers' contract will be revised in a way that helps the Packers' salary cap. smiles gleefully...

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13TimeChamps's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:36 pm

This just keeps getting better!!

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jurp's picture

April 24, 2023 at 05:22 pm

"It's the gift that keeps on giving, Clark." :)

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Since'75's picture

April 24, 2023 at 07:26 pm

"This just keeps getting better."

Well....lets reserve judgement on that, and wait to see this seasons results.

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Leatherhead's picture

April 24, 2023 at 05:27 pm

This will finally put that contract into perspective. Perhaps, maybe, it's going to end up not being a horrible price for #43 and next year's pick in the 20s. I'll wait until I know.

My understanding is that right now, we'd be looking at a $40 million hole that we could split into two seasons at 16/24.

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JerseyAl's picture

April 24, 2023 at 05:47 pm

this got a down vote? lol.

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BirdDogUni's picture

April 24, 2023 at 05:51 pm

Vikings fan dude...

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HawkPacker's picture

April 24, 2023 at 06:33 pm

I questioned that as well Al. Go figure.

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dobber's picture

April 24, 2023 at 06:49 pm

It means you've finally "arrived", Al!

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Since'61's picture

April 24, 2023 at 09:44 pm

Cookie! Thanks, Since '61

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Since'61's picture

April 24, 2023 at 07:23 pm

Trolls brother! Thanks, Since '61

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Since'75's picture

April 24, 2023 at 07:28 pm

A down vote?

Say it isn't so!!

A travesty...my condolences, i hope everyone is ok.

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Since'75's picture

April 25, 2023 at 12:05 pm

SYSTEM ERROR!!

Stop the madness!! 🤨

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Since'75's picture

April 25, 2023 at 03:04 pm

Lol....i love you boys!!

Feel better now?

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StarrtoRodgers's picture

April 25, 2023 at 04:13 am

JerseyAl

April 24, 2023 at 05:47 pm
"According to Tom Pellissero, Rodgers' contract will be revised in a way that helps the Packers' salary cap. smiles gleefully...
this got a down vote? lol."

Dear Al,

The down vote could be a system error.

I have found that when I wish to give a thumbs up to certain members' posts, instead the thumbs down count increases by 2!!

I have also found that when I wish to give a thumbs down to certain members' posts, the thumbs down count decreases by 2!!

This only happens with a couple different members posts, don't know why.

Anyone else have that experience?

Al, or the thumbs down vote could be someone that recognized that you got it wrong as to any positive salary cap effect for the Packers of the Jets renegotiation with Aaron regarding his contract - as you misunderstood Rapoport and Pelissero's reporting on the still NOT OFFICIAL, still NOT FINALIZED trade (If you have time, please listen to Brian Gutekunst's 29 minute and 27 second interview on Monday afternoon, April 24, 2023 on the Official Packers website).

Rapoport and Pelessero's reporting on the STILL NOT FINALIZED Rodgers trade could be heard here:

Rapoport, Pelissero: Jets agree to trade to acquire Aaron Rodgers
NFL Network Insiders Ian Rapoport, Tom Pelissero reports the New York Jets agree to trade for quarterback Aaron Rodgers.

Al, please listen from 51 seconds through 1 minute of the 2 minute and 45 second clip:

Ian Rapoport: "...lot of details to get to including the fact that the New York Jets are expected to redo the contract of Aaron Rodgers to give them some more cap space....."

Al, the bonus payments made by the Packers in 2022 and earlier years are sunk costs in accounting terminology and must be amortized as salary cap usage by the Packers. Those past payments have nothing to do with the Jets.

Any salary cap benefit from renegotiation of future/pending contractual payments - i.e. Aaron agreeing to a lowering of the pending $58.3 million option for the 2025 year of Aaron's 4 year contract, which currently must be exercised by the day before the September 2023 season start by either the Jets (if the trade is finalized) or Packers (if the trade is not completed) - of the contract would go to the Jets if the trade is completed not the Packers.

For those that have listened to all of Aaron's interviews from the January 8th, 2023 Lions post game interview to those in the following weeks, we all heard Aaron say in interviews that he recognized the need to renegotiate and restructure his contract the Packers and Aaron said he was willing to do so to benefit the Packers with Aaron playing at QB, should he decided not to retire after taking a couple months away. Brian in interviews in January and right up through the Combine on March 6, 2023 was on board with Aaron taking the necessary time to rest and think through this decision to retire or to play. Brian suddenly OVER A 2 WEEK PERIOD COMPLETELY changed course - my fellow Packer fans and I - fans of 60 to 80 years have all listened together to these Brian (December 5h, January 13th, February 28th) and Aaron interviews (January 8th,2023, McAfee interviews) from December through March 6th.

In fact, as it stands now, if Aaron plays for the Packers in 2023, his salary cap hit is approximately $31.6 M composed of 4 components, $7.7 M proration of signing bonuses paid before 2022, $1.165M minimum veteran salary, $8.2M amortization of the $40.8 signing bonus paid to Aaron in 2022, and the $14.6 M amortization of the $58.3 M option for Aaron's 2025 contract year which would have to be exercised by the Packers a day before the start of the September 2023 regular season - approximately $31.6 M in total.

If the Packers complete this trade before June 2, 2023 the Packers salary cap hit is $40.3 M, approximately $9M higher than Rodgers the $31.6M salary cap hit when Aaron plays for the Packers in 2023 The $40.3 M cap this is made up of the $7.7 M proration of the signing bonus paid pre 2022 and the remaining unamortized $32.6 of the $40.8 signing bonus paid to Aaron in 2022 and is now amortized fully in 2023.

If the Packers trade was completed on June 2nd, 2023 or thereafter then only the $7.7 M proration of the signing bonus paid pre 2022 is still in the 2023 cap calculation along with approximately $8.2 M (rounded) of the unamortized portion of the $40.8 M signing bonus paid in 2022 for a total 2023 salary cap hit of $15.9M. .

This is not rocket since, just basic mathematics and access to the publicly available contract information for these players - how often is it that fellow employees (and the world) know how much each other is being paid in salary and bonus?

The Packers could have held onto Rodgers to start or as backup insurance for Jordan Love, should Jordan's performance very quickly - less than 7 games - show Packer Management and any knowledgeable football fan that Jordan clearly is not the Packer Franchise QB of the present or future or any other team's present or future Franchise QB.

In the best case, Love performs as well as Rodgers did in 2008, the Packers could save the $9M in cap space for 2022, $31.6 cap hit vs. $40.3 cap hit as noted, and trade Rodgers anytime after the approximate March 13, 2024 opening of the 2024 NFL year and the first September 2024 regular season game. The incremental cost here would be the remaining approximate unamortized $43.5 M salary cap hit from the $58.3 M the Packers would have had to make before the 1st regular season September 2023 game.

In the worst case, Jordan's failure, Rodgers could have remained as the Packers franchise and starting QB until the Packers drafted a TRUE FRANCHISE QB (i.e. Mahomes, Burrow - who dominated Jordan in the LSU Utah State game in October 2019- Herbert, Allen, Jackson, Hurts, Fields, Murray, etc. etc. - or otherwise traded for another veteran while continuing its search for TRUE FRANCHISE QB.

Maybe the Aaron Rodgers proposed trade will be reported as FINALIZED by Brian and on the Packers OFFICIAL website by Tuesday, April 25th or maybe Wednesday April 26th or Thursday April 27th or Friday April 28th or Saturday April 29th or maybe before September 2023 or maybe it may not happen at all.

The only thing OFFICIAL at this moment is that as Brian told the reporters Monday afternoon no trade has been completed::

Brian Gutekunst expects Aaron Rodgers trade to be completed before draft
Green Bay Packers General Manager Brian Gutekunst spoke with the media prior to the start of the 2023 NFL Draft.

Interviewer: "When did the trade happen?"

Brian: "The trade is not finalized yet. We were expecting it to be done very quickly, hopefully soon. A lot of things have been agreed upon, but there are things to go through."

Interviewer: "How much did things accelerate in the last 24 to 48 hours? Did things pick up this week?

Brian: "Not really, I would say in the last 5, 6, 7 days we been talking. We been talking you know much longer than that but I think the last 5 or 6 days over the weekend and stuff there has been a lot of conversation that helped us get to this point, but again there is still things that need to be done, IT IS NOT FINALIZED BUT WE DO EXPECT IT TO BE DONE IN THE NEXT COUPLE DAYS."

Interviewer: "Is it just paperwork at this time, at this point?"

(STR Note: What an IGNORANT QUESTION - all business deals are on paper or they ARE NOT DEALS AT ALL. NOTHING. ZERO. )

Brian: "Mostly yeah, BUT THOSE ARE SIGNIFICANT, so we're not there yet, but again were expected to have this done before the draft."

Interviewer: "Brian, how important was it to get this done before Friday?"

Brian: "It was very important for us, I think you know it wouldn't have been the end of the world but at the same time I think it would have certainly changed things quite a bit, so getting it done ahead of time is important."

Interviewer: "Why?"

Brian: "I just think certainly the capital for this year you know was very important, certainly more valuable than future stuff, so for our football team. So there was a number of reasons, but that's why."

(STR'S note - yeah BIG DEAL a 2nd round draft choice for the winner or the Passer Rating title and MVP 2 of the last 3 years is SO CRITICAL. WHAT AN EMBARRASMENT. Brian should be ASHAMED at how he continues to destroy the Packers)

Interviewer: "I believe at the Owners meetings we talked about the 13th pick and you said it is not like a must have. How did that swap become involved in it. Was that something that they ."

Brian (interrupting): "Yeah, Rob at some point because I know I am going to be talking a lot over the next 5 of 6 days I could go into some of that, BUT NOTHING HAS REALLY BEEN FINALIZED YET, so until it does just bare with me, I'll go through that stuff with you at a later date, but right now we're still ironing some things out, but I appreciate the question."

(STR NOTE: PREMATURELY celebrating Aaron Rodgers haters, Spoiled Packer Fans, Sycophants of Paid Packer Management propagandists, and Aaron Rodgers Church Lady haters addicted to Aaron Rodger's personal life rumors , Brian is telling you that even the BASIC TERMS OF THE TRADE ITSELF - like what, if any draft choice switches there are and what draft choices the Packers are giving and receiving - have not been agreed upon. AGAIN, there is NO DEAL until it is on paper and signed off on by all authorized or required parties, including Rodgers.)

Interviewer: "How important was it for you to limit some of the conditions on the pick the Jets would include for next year as much as possible"

Brian: "Yeah, I am going to echo that again before I get into any of those kind of things we're going to pause there and we will pick it up at the other times I got to talk. (joking looking to his right) I got to talk again right, yeah, ok, so"

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Spawny's picture

April 25, 2023 at 06:17 am

S to R
I am impressed by the way you write and put down facts to support your thoughts. It is a shame that the uneducated masses prefer to hammer at your opinions out of emotion. But, I blame the ignorance of the school systems in rural Wisconsin. It is difficult going to school after milking the goats and fondling the chickens. Walking ten miles up hill both ways in a driving blizzard because your shetland pony got stolen only adds to the malaise. Oops. I forgot to mention having Oley and Lena for teachers. Ouffdah! Are we having lutefisk for lunch?

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JerseyAl's picture

April 25, 2023 at 08:14 am

award for longest comment ever. Ok, you told us how you feel. Hopefully no copy and pasting into other comments...

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Since'75's picture

April 25, 2023 at 09:50 am

@StarrtoRodgers
That's quite the novel....but i'm goin to wait for the book 😉

Git er dun Gutey!!
Make that 3rd round pick your bi...!

Probably a system error😏

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greengold's picture

April 25, 2023 at 02:03 pm

Welcome, my brother. It’s a big club.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

April 26, 2023 at 07:37 am

Not me on the downvote, but Pelisero is completely wrong. Nothing can be done at this point that would help GB's salary cap. I see Ken Ingalls agrees that there is nothing to be done to help GB's cap. Now, they can help NY's cap.

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Coldworld's picture

April 24, 2023 at 06:47 pm

As far as I can see, that’s just us not having to account for any of the 59 million in guarantees due this season if he’s on a roster. Perhaps that requires some classification tweaks. What’s already paid is fixed, so it sounds like they are just ensuring we don’t pick up amounts over the publicly anticipated 40 million hit.

To me the great thing is we now will lose the 40.7 million cap hit in 2024 and 59 million in 2025. So after this year Rodgers is off the books completely.

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greengold's picture

April 24, 2023 at 07:02 pm

It’s… ginormous.

Deep cleansing breath. Whewwwwww!

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coolhand's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:28 pm

3 picks in the first 50, git er done Gute!

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dblbogey's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:34 pm

Moving up 2 spots is a bigger deal than it sounds like. Could be a stud OT or Edge fall to them now.

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

April 24, 2023 at 05:15 pm

Or even more compensation for a trade down. Personally, I like Isaiah Foskey at #13 but we'll see how Gute plays it.

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greengold's picture

April 25, 2023 at 09:10 am

Man, I Love Foskey to the Packers. He and Felix a couple draft crushes, with Washington, Turner, Skinner, Kancey…

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

April 26, 2023 at 07:54 am

I'm not a draftnik, but it seems to me like Foskey would be there at #15. Taking Foskey makes swapping the picks unnecessary.

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Since'75's picture

April 28, 2023 at 04:24 pm

Or they can trade up for him in the 2nd round, he's a project, which is right up Gute's alley.

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Leatherhead's picture

April 24, 2023 at 05:30 pm

Moving up from #173 to #171 isn't a big deal, but at the top of the draft it's a big deal. Still, there's going to be two good players available at #13 that won't be there at #15.

We have picks at #13, #43, #45, and #78. A little bit of trading down would give us 5 or 6 picks in the top 78.

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greengold's picture

April 25, 2023 at 09:14 am

Bet he trades 13 & 149 to SEA for 20 & 37.

There’s Cedric Tillman and Darnell Washington in a Packers uniform. Not saying with those picks exactly, but it helps make it possible.

Maybe, Gutekunst lands Darnell Wright at 20…???

That would be a couple serious calls by Al. Both the trade down and picking Wright.

Ohhhhhhh, please…. “CAT FUD” ….
(Probably my fav Far Side ever)

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Since'75's picture

April 24, 2023 at 07:32 pm

"Could be a stud or edge..."

I could win Powerball.

Lets wait till a pick is made and the player proves himself on the field before we crown anyone.

Just sayin.

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dobber's picture

April 24, 2023 at 06:50 pm

Maybe two years in a row!

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Spawny's picture

April 25, 2023 at 06:23 am

Gute will do what he always does. That being pick his nose three times on day one and two. Then he will scratch his balls picking that third rounder. Ummm. Yes, he eats with those fingers. Gutekunst will go down in history as the moron who destroyed tha Packers. Long live Nero Gutekunst.

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greengold's picture

April 25, 2023 at 09:20 am

Suck it, Spawny.

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Since'75's picture

April 25, 2023 at 09:59 am

Spawny......you gots to learn how to Carry The G round here partner!!.

Gute does a fan damn tastic job, especially rounds 3-7,

Kool aid?

Don't worry about the thumbs down, it's most likely a system error.

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Coldworld's picture

April 25, 2023 at 01:02 pm

If you hate it so much, there’s a door you can leave through rather than just we allow in passive aggressive whining.

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greengold's picture

April 25, 2023 at 02:06 pm

How about 5? I can see it.

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CheesePuff's picture

April 24, 2023 at 06:55 pm

Now the pressure is on Gutekunst to draft we’ll, and even more so on MLF (“tap the brakes”) and the coaching staff to develop the players into a winning football team. No more Rodgers to blame for team failures. Look forward to watching both teams this year.

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zoellner25's picture

April 24, 2023 at 03:46 pm

I'm elated it's over finally

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Savage57's picture

April 25, 2023 at 07:21 am

The biggest Packers news of the 21st century, and all we get is copy and paste.

Nagler's developed an allergy to writing.

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13TimeChamps's picture

April 24, 2023 at 03:46 pm

Finally! Pretty much what most people were predicting. No boatload of pics, no Olinemen included. Just Rodgers straight up.

Taking everything into consideration, not a bad deal for a soon to be 40 year old coming off a down year and hinting at retirement.

Time to move on.

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Untylu1968's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:05 pm

Sorry, but that ain't straight up! We're the winner!

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13TimeChamps's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:09 pm

I meant straight up as in no other players involved. Just Rodgers.

But I agree. Green Bay definitely came out ahead in this trade.

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greengold's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:07 pm

No. Most people, including yourself, were predicting #42, straight up.

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13TimeChamps's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:15 pm

Actually, I said on a number of occasions that the most likely scenario was a 2nd this year and a 2024 pick for just Rodgers, which is basically what happened, as opposed to your prediction of us getting the Jets entire draft for Rodgers and 4 of our Olinemen, which didn't even come close to happening.

Whatever...a great job by Gutekunst. Well done!

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greengold's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:21 pm

You did not say that. The OL part hasn’t happened yet. Wait for it…

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13TimeChamps's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:42 pm

I know what I said and I'm not going to argue with you. This is a great day and I'm not going to let you ruin it with your pettiness. Some free advice though...you might want to find a new hobby. Forecasting trade compensation doesn't seem to be your forte. Have a nice day.

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greengold's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:57 pm

Oh, please, with your BS. First thing you said, unprompted, was a personal dig directed at me.

This isn’t over. Not by a long shot.

What will they protect Aaron Rodgers with? Their 32nd ranked OL? A bunch of rookies?

Wow.

Piss off.

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Packerpasty's picture

April 24, 2023 at 06:08 pm

you sure like to argue...mr perfect..

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greengold's picture

April 24, 2023 at 06:50 pm

No. I don’t. I’ll be really nice and leave it at that.

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13TimeChamps's picture

April 24, 2023 at 07:34 pm

"What will they protect Aaron Rodgers with? Their 32nd ranked OL? A bunch of rookies?"

You seem to be the only person on this site that gives a rats azz who is going to protect Rodgers in NY. He's gone. The Jets Oline problems are the Jets problems, not GB's.

GB is not going to decimate their OL to protect Rodgers in NY. It was idiotic the first 20 times you proposed it. It's still idiotic. GB is going to give Love the best chance to succeed. You're wrong. Give it a break.

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 24, 2023 at 07:49 pm

Bhak and Broderick Jones, maybe Paris Johnson would make too much sense. See if He can capitalize on the #13.

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Leatherhead's picture

April 24, 2023 at 06:23 pm

Some people were predicting the moon, sun, and sky.

Essentially, we've traded him for two second round picks, one this year and one next, and if Rodgers plays as much as he should, that will be upgrade to a first round pick, probably in the 20s.

Not a boatload, but nothing to sneeze at, either.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

April 24, 2023 at 06:50 pm

First......I am just damn glad AR is gone & the Jordan Love era has begun.

Second, while I wish we had also had gotten #43 to go with #42 I am content. It went down a little better than most on here was predicting. Now Gutey just has to hit some major home runs. I am leaning to wanting Gutey to trade down to #19, or even #29, or #32, and picking up another pick in round 2. Be nice to take three swings in round 2, and possibly an extra 3rd. There is a lot Gutey can do in this draft to help the team, but the draft has to fall in our favor.

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greengold's picture

April 24, 2023 at 06:52 pm

Don’t beat around the bush, my friend. This isn’t over. Not even close. Stay tuned.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

April 25, 2023 at 05:38 pm

Why the first round swap though? Is it just for the ego factor so the front office can claim they got more than just a second rounder this year? Or do they have someone specific in mind that they can get at #13 that they couldn't at 15?

Will be interesting ...

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LambeauPlain's picture

April 24, 2023 at 03:46 pm

That's a good deal. Nice job Gutey.

13th pick increases the first day fun. More value to trade down with...or watch a blue chipper talent drop.

That's a good 2nd rounder too.

And a 2024 second, possible First.

The Spring of Love has Sprung...

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Untylu1968's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:24 pm

Love, Love will keep us together!

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jurp's picture

April 24, 2023 at 05:24 pm

Absolutely terrible song from the late 70s. I like the sentiment but that song blows. Toni Tennille WAS kind of cute, though...

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LambeauPlain's picture

April 24, 2023 at 05:40 pm

Being a Beatles fan, "All you Need is Love" is playing in my head.

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greengold's picture

April 24, 2023 at 06:58 pm

Aaron Rodgers has Nazareth playing in his own head…

Lo-ove hurts…
Lo-ove scars…

Lol

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SoCalJim's picture

April 24, 2023 at 07:39 pm

Love Shack, baby!

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greengold's picture

April 25, 2023 at 02:09 pm

Gotta Love it.

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barutanseijin's picture

April 24, 2023 at 08:06 pm

Too bad for Aaron it’s not the Gram Parsons & Emmylou Harris version of “Love Hurts”

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Rarescope's picture

April 24, 2023 at 05:42 pm

The unanticipated downside of a successful J. Love career. Don't get me wrong I have nothing against the guy as a person (seems like a solid dude actually) or as a player (optimistically looking forward to this season) but I was sick of the Summer of Love etc. references a year or two ago. Now get off my lawn! :P

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dblbogey's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:38 pm

Here's to Aaron having a very healthy year in 2023.

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jurp's picture

April 24, 2023 at 05:25 pm

Healthy to game 10, at least. He' a Jet, and after that I couldn't give a shit.

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Bearmeat's picture

April 24, 2023 at 03:47 pm

Thrilled with this trade. The Jets TOTALLY caved. All 12 has to do is play 9 games and that 2nd becomes a 1st next year. So, if Love is bad (which I don’t think he will be) but if he is, they’ll have a top 8 pick next year and an extra 1st to move up to get the QB of the future in the top 3 in a much better QB class!

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Rarescope's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:12 pm

I don't see it as either side caving, let alone TOTALLY caving (see Broncos trade for Russel Wilson 2022 for an example of TOTALLY caving). It looks like we shuffled a few picks around to create a little value this year while picking up a second rounder and added a 1st or 2nd rounder next year. Seems like a good deal without the risk of blowing up in everyone's faces like the Broncos did last year. Now if we get the Jets 1st next year and Rodgers retires it will look better for the Pack, but the Jets hardly gave away the farm. Seems good all around.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

April 25, 2023 at 05:44 pm

Ok so what I want to know is, was getting #13 just pure ego? Or does Gutey have someone specific in mind that he couldn't get at #15?

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Geezzzhead's picture

April 24, 2023 at 03:52 pm

Well it's time.
It's kind of sad in a way.
When u watch every game,hoot and hollar on every play. To see 1 of the best leave the family.
I'm just glad it' wasn't with a NFC team.
Thank you Mr. Rodgers,u were awesome.
Go Pack Go.
I'm thinking we pick Smith ( Ohio State).
I thought Murphy at first.
We need 5 starters from this draft.

P.S.
We just got way younger and faster .
Go Pack Go
P.S.S.
Thank you so much John Brockington.
You were awesome. 42 forever

23 points
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greengold's picture

April 24, 2023 at 03:53 pm

Done. More to come on Draft Days 2 & 3 as the Jets build out their OL in real time.

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nygary's picture

April 24, 2023 at 03:54 pm

Great Job Gute. No matter what happens next year i will enjoy not dealing with the Rodgers drama . I do live in NY and will have to see Rodgers anyway. Go Pack Go

18 points
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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

April 24, 2023 at 03:56 pm

Great job Gute. No matter what happens next year I will miss seeing Rodgers and those back-shoulder throws and the mastery of a hall of fame talent.

4 points
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mnbadger's picture

April 24, 2023 at 03:58 pm

Honestly, I missed all of that this year too!
GPG!

25 points
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Bitternotsour's picture

April 24, 2023 at 06:25 pm

ouch

2 points
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dobber's picture

April 24, 2023 at 06:53 pm

Winner!

3 points
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Since'61's picture

April 24, 2023 at 07:29 pm

I live in the NYC metro area and I never watch the Jets. No reason to see Rodgers if you don't want to.
Thanks, Since '61

4 points
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Tundraboy's picture

April 25, 2023 at 12:21 am

Me too. But watching Rodgers have to actually answer hardball media questions should be very entertaining.

3 points
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ReaganRulz's picture

April 24, 2023 at 03:55 pm

Niiiice!! Glad that it got done a few days before the draft. I wonder if all the 49er’s talk, etc. helped accelerate this on the Jets side. Who knows. Now having 3 picks in the first 2 rounds definitely works. And getting a potential 1st next year which may be a low pick, but a first rounder nevertheless. Giving Gutey a B+ at first glance on just the trade capital!!

11 points
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Cubbygold's picture

April 24, 2023 at 03:56 pm

Was going to post something similar. So glad this trade didn't occur during the draft, causing potential chaos in the draft room and bad decisions. Glad they get a few days to gameplan.

11 points
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Doug_In_Sandpoint's picture

April 25, 2023 at 09:56 am

Yes, looking forward to back to back pics next year. When we whip the Jets in the Super Bowl we’ll have 31 and 32!

1 points
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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

April 25, 2023 at 05:50 pm

What I want to know is, why the first round swap? Is it just pure ego so Gutey can claim he got a first and second rounder this year? Or does he have someone specific in mind for #13: that he wouldn't be able to get at 15?

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DragonSilk's picture

April 24, 2023 at 03:57 pm

Sounds like a good deal for us. Now time for Love to carve up the North!

13 points
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PatrickGB's picture

April 24, 2023 at 03:57 pm

Not bad, not bad at all.

8 points
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mnbadger's picture

April 24, 2023 at 03:57 pm

Joy to the World. Great job Gutey. Hope this is the start of a positively transformative week for Green Bay Packer Nation!
Well done, keep it up. Now go make us Proud Thursday, Friday and Saturday!
GPG!

9 points
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packerbackerjim's picture

April 24, 2023 at 03:58 pm

The swap of the firsts is huge. If the player they had targeted was 50-50 at 15, the odds got much better. If it doesn’t play out as hoped, trading down is now that much more valuable.

22 points
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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

April 24, 2023 at 06:54 pm

Now the Pack needs to take the player the Jet's had wanted at #13. Be pretty damn funny! All signs point to that being Broderick Jones. I'd take Jones at #13 most likely over any other player even JSN, and Quentin Jones, or Van Ness, etc.

4 points
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BAMABADGER's picture

April 24, 2023 at 10:04 pm

The other three aren't even worth the # 15.

1 points
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blondy45's picture

April 24, 2023 at 07:05 pm

Great Job Gutey! The compensation was more than I was expecting. I agree Jim, trade down now unless a top 8 talent falls to #13. If a QB falls to #13, some team may get in a "trading mood". Even if it is only a 2-pick difference, that is still like a late 3rd round compensation value, BUT the most important thing that makes me giddy, is we now can look in the rear-view mirror as the Rodgers drama fads away. Also a much-needed money crunch lifted, still some to pay, but not nearly as bad as other possibilities could have occurred, like having Rodgers be a 50 million-dollar clip board holder for Love. I wish Rodgers well and thank him for his years of great times for the Packers. I just could not tolerate his selfishness any more. He failed as a team leader. He put himself above ALL on the Packer's team & management. It is OVER. Yippie! NOW the Packer's can build a " team". In Gutey we trust! Now go work your magic.

4 points
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NJ-RICK's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:00 pm

Again Packers MGT caves in and gives up a 4 time MVP Super bowl QB to the NY Jets for practically nothing. Last year the Bronco's offered the Packers 3 first round picks and a couple of defensive players. Packers MGT a day late and a dollar short. As a diehard hard Packer fan ( Shareholder ) since the late 60's nothing would make me happier then seeing Packer MGT get released. I hope the NY Jets win a Super Bowl with Aaron Rodgers. Another dumb move by Packer MGT...!!!!!!!! Welcome back to the 70's and 80's Packer fans.... STUPID STUPID STUPID...

-35 points
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PreSnapRead's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:09 pm

Sarcasm?????, this is likely a 1 year deal for the Jets, so I think Gutey did well.

4 points
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JerseyAl's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:24 pm

STUPID STUPID STUPID... Don't be so hard on yourself...

18 points
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Packers0808's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:27 pm

I don't think the Stupidity lies here with Packers but someone else and not dealing with the trade!

0 points
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dblbogey's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:47 pm

Hindsight is 20/20. Rodgers was coming off back to back MVP's. They thought they had the talent to make a run, but Rodgers played well below his standards. They moved up to #13 in this draft, and get an early 2nd rounder, and almost certainly a #1 next year, and also some cap relief I believe. That's a win for a guy who can still sling it, but has lost his mobility and underperformed in the last several playoff games.

2 points
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greengold's picture

April 24, 2023 at 06:48 pm

dblbogey, adding the cap relief realized from this AR trade alone is immense, and pushes this deal way over the top.

3 points
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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

April 24, 2023 at 05:33 pm

A million more fans than you would have screamed to release management if they traded the team's best asset just after winning back-to-back MVPs. No GM would have done that, anywhere. No other GM has traded their franchise QB while at the top of his game. EVER. But hindsight is great, isn't it?

2 points
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Oppy's picture

April 24, 2023 at 08:44 pm

no other GM has the stones that Gutekunst has.
Rodgers is the past, not the future.

GO PACK GO.

2 points
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Oppy's picture

April 24, 2023 at 09:24 pm

As a side note, but an important one:

Rodgers was at the top of his game in 2010-2014.

He's still a good QB, but he's not been that guy he was for almost 8 years now- fancy back to back MVP awards be damned.

That's just the reality of the situation. Don't believe me? Go back and watch Rodgers work the field back then. That's a different dude. Only been glimpses of that guy over the last decade.

5 points
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greengold's picture

April 25, 2023 at 02:51 pm

The time is now. Agree 100%. Could have really been 3 years ago.

0 points
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dobber's picture

April 24, 2023 at 06:56 pm

Jets won't win their own division, much less an SB. Will keep that pick in 2024 around 20.

7 points
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Packerpasty's picture

April 26, 2023 at 09:50 am

and neither will the Packers..

0 points
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Packer_Fan's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:02 pm

Finally!! I now would trade down with the lower pick in the first round and get another first and second rounder. Then draft:

1. Edge
2. TE, WR & OT
3. IDL
4. WR or RB
5. TE
6. EDGE
7. RB, QB and such.

Basically I want 4 players in the top 60. Starters.

1 points
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Jeff Hayes's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:06 pm

They only have #13 the Jets get #15

4 points
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LambeauPlain's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:16 pm

If #13 is traded down for a late first and another second, that is 4 picks in the top 60.

3 points
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SoCalJim's picture

April 24, 2023 at 05:14 pm

I’m hoping for this scenario, unless a must-have talent is available at #13.

I’m relieved that this is finally done, and I’m looking forward to a successful draft. Go Pack Go!

5 points
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jannes bjornson's picture

April 24, 2023 at 08:22 pm

TAke the Blue chip @ #13.

0 points
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Cubbygold's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:06 pm

.

1 points
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barutanseijin's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:07 pm

They still only have one first round pick.

2 points
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TKWorldWide's picture

April 24, 2023 at 07:13 pm

That may be a prioritized list of needs, but it’s no way to draft.

2 points
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golfpacker1's picture

April 24, 2023 at 07:45 pm

Why not? He is covering our needs.

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TKWorldWide's picture

April 24, 2023 at 08:13 pm

You don’t pass on Michael Jordan because you have yourself scheduled to choose a center in the first round.

4 points
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LeotisHarris's picture

April 24, 2023 at 09:18 pm

The Portland Trailblazers have entered the chat..

4 points
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Since'61's picture

April 24, 2023 at 10:03 pm

Cookie for Leotis. Thanks, Since '61

2 points
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TKWorldWide's picture

April 25, 2023 at 07:13 am

I know it’s basketball instead of football, but it’s the greatest argument against that style of drafting the world has ever known. Ha!

1 points
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splitpea1's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:03 pm

This is very fair for both sides, perhaps even more so for the Packers....We wish Aaron the best, and since the Jets have a nice competitive schedule, plenty of health so he can play more than 65% of those snaps.

22 points
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Rarescope's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:08 pm

That’s what I was thinking. Seems like both sides did a good job negotiating a fair deal for a trade with a difficult to quantify value.

10 points
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greengold's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:14 pm

“Here. Please take our fucking migraine…”

We’ve established a new market value on that.

11 points
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jurp's picture

April 24, 2023 at 05:26 pm

“Here. Please take our fucking migraine…”

Box of cookies for this. I almost spit my beer on my laptop.

2 points
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greengold's picture

April 24, 2023 at 05:49 pm

NOICE, jurp!!!! Spitting beer on laptop is exemplary fun!

Style points awarded.

-2 points
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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

April 24, 2023 at 06:56 pm

I'll second that!!!

-2 points
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greengold's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:11 pm

Thanks for that laugh, split!

-3 points
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Jeff Hayes's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:04 pm

About time, not a bad haul for a player they were moving on from anyways, The conditional 2nd next year is pretty much a 1st unless Rodgers gets hurt but as we know he plays hurt also! I wish him the best but honestly I'm looking forward to the Jordan Love era to begin!

11 points
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Straya's picture

April 24, 2023 at 05:52 pm

I wish him good health and mediocre performance to increase the value of that pick next year

5 points
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BirdDogUni's picture

April 24, 2023 at 05:54 pm

Rodgers played over 65% of the snaps for us last year and were drafting at 15. I think Rodgers could be 100% healthy and he loses a bunch of close games, we could be drafting at 15 and 32 next year. ; P

9 points
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Coldworld's picture

April 24, 2023 at 06:54 pm

The 10th game is the one Favre ripped his bicep in. Yet another ripple.

1 points
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greengold's picture

April 24, 2023 at 07:16 pm

I see what you did there! Well done!

2 points
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barutanseijin's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:05 pm

Finally. What a relief.

That’s a pretty good haul for Rodgers at this point in his career.

9 points
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GregC's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:13 pm

Way better than I had been led to expect. I was to the point of just wanting it to be over even if the Packers didn't get much in return.

4 points
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BAMABADGER's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:05 pm

Glad the drama is coming to a conclusion. Lord, I wish we had moved him last year.

10 points
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BAMABADGER's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:17 pm

PS: Aaron Rodger, thank you, sir for the memories. GPG!

8 points
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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

April 24, 2023 at 06:56 pm

I'll second that as well!

1 points
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PhantomII's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:10 pm

About as good as could be expected. Personally I'd have liked 2-2's this season and a 2 next season, but I can see the want from Gute if things do not go well in 2023 that having 2-1s in 2024 is beneficial. I'm all about burning the 1-2 rounds for TE and WR first possibly with a move down from #13 to pick up another #2 pick. That would give us a later #1 and 3-2's to pick up 2-TE's and 2-WR's or 1-WR and RB like Gibbs who could play slot WR and excel. Anyway happy this looks like it's finally done. GPG

0 points
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Cubbygold's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:14 pm

Big detail in the news is Rodgers reworking his contract to free up cap space. GB about to pick up a vet WR and/or S.

0 points
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Bitternotsour's picture

April 24, 2023 at 06:28 pm

reworking his contract so they can send that 15 pick back to us for Bakhtiari.

1 points
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greengold's picture

April 24, 2023 at 07:29 pm

I wonder if it comes back to us for Myers/Runyan/Newman/Hanson?

All 4 veterans, scheme trained and on their first contracts. The dead cap hit to the Packers if traded now altogether is less than $3M.

Bakhtiari has to be on a separate deal after June 1st. There’s no way around that.

-3 points
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Yikesofriday's picture

April 24, 2023 at 10:27 pm

I would take that #15 for Bakh. He is on a one year deal now anyway and better too early that too late.

1 points
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BA4Packers's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:24 pm

Pack 13 and 42 gets you 9 if you move up. If Jalen Carter slides do you take him? Or trade 13 for 21 and 53
and dominate the draft. I am
SO excited. Good work Gute! Let the mock drafts begin. I don’t think I’m going to sleep much tonight.

4 points
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BA4Packers's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:26 pm

Excuse me I meant Packs 1st and 3rd to move up to 9. My bad.

1 points
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LambeauPlain's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:39 pm

A third? That's pure gold! :-0

2 points
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greengold's picture

April 24, 2023 at 05:28 pm

It is definitely a possibility. I love this kind of stuff.

-2 points
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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

April 24, 2023 at 05:19 pm

Absolutely not. Dont care how talented he is. Red flags are too big. Devonte Wyatt had red flags too and he couldnt even get on the field last year. Hard pass.

4 points
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Coldworld's picture

April 24, 2023 at 05:55 pm

He also can only play one position at a time. No to trading up.

4 points
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Tundraboy's picture

April 25, 2023 at 12:37 am

I'm still up.

1 points
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Handsback's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:25 pm

This trade gives the Packers two levers, first a top ten player most likely will drop and the Packers can swoop them up. The second lever is trading down with a 13th pick verses 15 is worth a 3rd pick. So there is the sunshine.
Just MHO

7 points
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Turophile's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:30 pm

I said what the deal would be several days back (and on another site several weeks back).

Of course I didn't get the part where the Packers lost their 2nd fifth round pick for the Jets 6th this year, but I nailed the rest.

I do want to see what golfpacker1 thinks about the deal.

............and for LeotisHarris:

Come on you GM slackers
A two (and one next year) you see,
means Rodgers leaves the Packers.
The Jets succeed and pay the fee

-7 points
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LeotisHarris's picture

April 24, 2023 at 09:23 pm

Doesn't count unless it was in the form of a quatrain. Everybody knows that.

3 points
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Packers0808's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:30 pm

Think the Packers smoked the Jets in this trade, primarily two reasons [Rodgers}his age and his attitude!

11 points
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PhantomII's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:41 pm

There is some truth there, but AR is still a top 5 QB and he will do well if healthy this season. He has some good weapons around him as well as a stout defense. OL may be a question mark though...which is very important for him to have a good one or good enough.

3 points
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jurp's picture

April 24, 2023 at 05:29 pm

His stats last year were middle of the pack - most definitely NOT top 5. We almost Hadl'd them here (I wanted BOTH of their second round picks).

1 points
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PhantomII's picture

April 24, 2023 at 08:25 pm

AR had no #1 not #2 WR last season. Watson and Doubs were hurt a part of the season. The OL was in flux especially early so there is that and a broken thumb.Stats or not still top 5 Mark it.

1 points
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greengold's picture

April 24, 2023 at 06:05 pm

Phantomll, they are not done.

As jurp said, we smoked ‘em. Getting a 2024 R2 (conditional R1), plus a swap of #s13/15, and the 2023 #42 was close to what I thought we’d take for AR alone. Maybe more.

How much are Myers, Runyan, Newman & Hanson worth to the Jets? That’s my next question.

Myers, a fully scheme trained veteran C is worth way more to them than the R2 we took him with, considering Nathaniel Hackett is running the show as OC. Runyan? Newman? Both of those players are starting caliber talents. *** Scheme trained is key for the Jets, increasing their value.

Jets owner Woody Johnson’s firm comments stating he wanted “plug & play” players sends this trade into historic blockbuster territory, if that’s what they aspire to receive from GB.

We all know AR, and he has very demanding expectations for his protection. That, coupled with Woody’s clearly stated mandates tells me Rodgers won’t be screwing around suffering rookie miscues.

The Packers remain in a great position of strength. They also have vested interest in keeping AR upright and healthy for that 65% of their season >>>> Bakhtiari post June 1.

Is it possible we get that #15 back?

-2 points
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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

April 24, 2023 at 06:59 pm

Important only from the perspective Rodgers NEEDS to play 65+ percent of the plays.

4 points
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WD's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:35 pm

Yippie! If Rodgers plays 65% of the offensive plays for the Jets in 23, the Pack gets a first round pick in 24. That is better than expected and a great Job by Gute. The first question now is what to do with the 13th pick. It has been a long time since the Pack has drafted that high and it is imperative we get a dynamic playmaker. Our critical needs are unchanged. Edge and TE. Can we get premier picks in both? I will leave that up to Gute. I think we get the best available Edge on the board There should be a couple or three there at 13. Then wait to see if we can get a TE like Darnell Washington or Kincaid by trading up if necessary. We had a great draft last year and I will not second guess the Gute. I will enjoy the draft!. I have the quarter Lb hotdogs , chips and beer for the three day annual festival. Go Pack. And, thanks again Gute for not letting the Jets fleece us!

5 points
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TKWorldWide's picture

April 24, 2023 at 07:20 pm

Wasn’t Gary a #12?
Wasn’t Jaire #18?

4 points
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mnbadger's picture

April 24, 2023 at 07:52 pm

yes to gary at 12. jaire at 18 I think.
gpg

4 points
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TKWorldWide's picture

April 24, 2023 at 08:16 pm

You are correct, sir!

0 points
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PackfanNY's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:36 pm

No doubt it was time. No one plays forever. We can debate the compensation. Personally, I feel Gute did ok.

I don’t think people realize that we are in for a very difficult transition. My guess is we are headed for a 4 or 5 win season. Love is going to have good days and bad. Turnovers will be a potential issue. Even forgetting Love, we have no safety and our pass rush is thin. Rashan Gary probably is going to start on IR is my guess.

Because of our salary cap problems Gute has done virtually nothing. That leaves the Draft. Reality says we cannot rely solely on draft picks to fill all the holes. Like who is the backup QB? What are we doing at WR, TE or DT? So many questions. Buckle up because we are headed to a place we haven’t been to for a long, long time. 2023 is a development year. A full rebuild has just started.

-11 points
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PhantomII's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:51 pm

Our team is ready to compete in the post season as is minus another quality WR and a couple TE's. That can easily be had now in this draft. Our OL is healthy (finally), defense is pretty good and ST is good and getting better a question mark at kicker though. We have a solid run game also. Watson and Doubs should improve, maybe Toure actually is thrown to and a couple 3-4 new offensive players to add to it. We should be pretty solid if Love does his job and doing these things in the draft will make it easier for him. #7 can play some Edge if Gary can't go right away. If we take care of the primary NEEDS at the top 2 rounds we will be better than you think. GPG

2 points
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greengold's picture

April 24, 2023 at 05:43 pm

Hey PackfanNY!

It was not only time, but past time. I do think there is way more hope for a very good season in 2023.

Love is no longer a wide eyed rookie. He’s got 3 solid years of development in, and firmly established early, positive relationships with all the new WRs last year taking all the camp QB1 reps. Then furthering that with their own private workout Love invited Watson, Doubs, Aaron Jones and more to California for last month.

This staff appears to develop players well, and a ton of young talent could realize the fruits of that development.

I think you’ll see a far more dynamic, effective and fun Packers team in 2023.

Hang in there my friend.

2 points
3
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mnbadger's picture

April 24, 2023 at 08:02 pm

I agree totally with the full rebuild comment.
I disagree with 4 or 5 wins if we come out reasonably healthy.
We'll be running an unscouted offense for the first 8 games, that should help.
Team unity will be noticeably better, which also helps.
Even if it's 4 or 5 wins, I'll be happy if coaching improves.
nothing to lose.
We're now the hunters instead of the hunted.
I've always rooted for the Pack or the underdog, now I get both.
GPG

5 points
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greengold's picture

April 24, 2023 at 09:19 pm

I like it a lot, mnbadger!

This offense with the LoveGun at QB1 is going to be white hot.

1 points
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Oppy's picture

April 24, 2023 at 08:48 pm

11-6 2023.

GO PACK GO.

2 points
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NickPerry's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:44 pm

Finally...NOW, WHOEVER said Gute was getting worked or was over his head just ate a HUGE helping of Crow IMO. Many were satified with a 2nd this year and now this...HELL YES!

14 points
20
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Leatherhead's picture

April 24, 2023 at 05:41 pm

Yup. We're not supposed to say that though, NP. We're supposed to pretend that people haven't been lambasting Murphy, Gutekunst, and LaFleur.

Once Upon A Time, the Packers got a new GM and the triumvirate of Murphy, GM, and LaFleur started running the show. The star of the team was a two time MVP but he'd been hurt and feuding with his coach, and the Packers had missed the playoffs for two years in a row.

They extended Rodgers and got two more MVPs out of him. They also acquired and prepared his successor. And now, we're going to benefit in the next two drafts from a guy we don't need anymore.

People should stop throwing words around like "incompetent" and "inept" and "clown show" and "disaster". It's not warranted.

-1 points
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White92's picture

April 24, 2023 at 05:58 pm

Please. The GM created the disaster, and now he's the hero for "salvaging" it?

Remember this is Titletown and this 3 headed monster has exactly zero.

-3 points
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Leatherhead's picture

April 24, 2023 at 06:26 pm

What Disaster?

1 points
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White92's picture

April 24, 2023 at 08:24 pm

Eating $40M in cap is not a disaster?

1 points
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Leatherhead's picture

April 24, 2023 at 09:54 pm

We don’t know it’s $40;million; let’s see what it is after reworking it. And we didn’t eat it if we’re getting picks for it.

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Coldworld's picture

April 25, 2023 at 01:14 am

Murphy’s extension costs us 40 million this year in cap terms for s player who isn’t playing a year after that deal was signed. It’s right to not forget that we may have escaped the worst of it a year on, but not without getting hit.

We do know it’s 40 million. That’s bonus already paid but not counted against the cap. That’s set in stone. Any reworking is to ensure we aren’t liable for any of the 50 plus million that becomes guaranteed if he’s in a roster the first day of the season. That helps us next year, so 40 million this year and then we are done as I understand it.

2 points
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White92's picture

April 25, 2023 at 12:16 pm

I would also say 8-9 and missing the playoffs is a disaster. This is Titletown. They now have no veteran WR, no TEs worth a shit at all, and a DC and head coach that are highly questionable.

I hope like hell Love is another HOF QB. If not, it's going to be a long journey through the wilderness.

-2 points
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NickPerry's picture

April 25, 2023 at 05:38 am

Please?

No PLEEEEASE... Make no mistake White92 (Love that pic with your screen name BTW), Murphy is the PUTZ and the "King" of disaster!

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White92's picture

April 25, 2023 at 12:18 pm

Thanks NP. We can disagree and be civil, and you might be right. Maybe it's Murph that the real putz and I'm just blaming Gkunzt.

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Since'75's picture

April 25, 2023 at 10:34 am

@White92.
Forgive NickPerry....

Just like when he fleeced the Packers, he now thinks the Packers won something big with this trade.

Hell, let him dance and drink the kool aid if it makes him happy i say.

The only thing the Packers...or the Jets won...is NOTHING, so far.

As Ron Wolf and Ted Thompson showed all of us......Winning happens on the field.

We won a trade? REALLY? YAY!!
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Now do this.....

You want to impress me? Win.....without a HOF QB under center.
Ask the other teams who don't have one, it's not so easy. Hell, ask the Jets.
There is a good reason the Jets made this trade. A top 5 defense is one of them.

Gonna take more than a Rodgers trade for the Packers/fans to gloat.
Build a roster and win a SB like Ron and Ted did.

I have news for Packer Nation. As we speak...the Jets are closer than the Packers.

Sorry, reality isn't always beautiful, but it's the truth.

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Since'75's picture

April 25, 2023 at 12:01 pm

Thumbs down?

SYSTEM ERROR!! 😮

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

April 24, 2023 at 07:01 pm

Thanks Nick!

I got so tired of everyone capitulating and parroting everything being said on the internet. That and dissing Gutey who has done a pretty damn good job since Day1! I think there will be some surprises on how quickly Gutey has us competitive again.

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TKWorldWide's picture

April 24, 2023 at 07:24 pm

I was told that capitulating can cause blindness.

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SoCalJim's picture

April 24, 2023 at 08:11 pm

No, that’s the other thing. :^D

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PackBacker's picture

April 24, 2023 at 04:45 pm

So, I guess Jordan Love will now own The Bears.

"Same as it ever was", as the old Talking Heads song said.

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jurp's picture

April 24, 2023 at 05:31 pm

"Same as it ever was", as the old Talking Heads song said.

I remember when that song first hit the charts and was huge on MTV (did you know that MTV actually used to play music videos 24/7?)

*SIGH*

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greengold's picture

April 24, 2023 at 07:23 pm

First introduced to America altogether on Saturday Night Live!

I’ll never forget it. “Take Me to the River.” 1979.

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mnbadger's picture

April 24, 2023 at 08:13 pm

Talking heads, the English beat, the clash, Bon Scott led ac/DC and XTC were always on my turntable in the late 70's. Throw in the specials, the early stray cats and roxy music and I'm set.
GPG

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 25, 2023 at 01:24 am

XTC opened up for the Police. Intense show. When the Headliners came out to play, half the crowd had left the building. Roxy Shows at the Riverside Theater

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mnbadger's picture

April 25, 2023 at 12:28 pm

I had a ticket for an XTC show in Madison, sp