Listening to these two guys talking sets my teeth on edge, even though there is really good stuff in this podcast, people they like and don't like.

What I don't like is Andy Herman agreeing with Ben Fennell on, well, everything.

Where is the disagreement, the conflicting view on a prospect ? I don't want to listen to the Fennell appreciation society, I want Herman to have his own views........ and from what I'm hearing that just isn't happening.

In short, very interesting podcast, but it's ok to disagree sometimes.

It's difficult not to agree with Ben Fennell on most of his takes - as his 'deeper dive' analysis is atypical of the usual made-for-media mock drafts and opinions. And I think his draft board is closer to Team boards than our amateur offerings. It seemed that A.H. may have agreed with everything from B.F. but I attribute it to professional courtesy and respect. There definitely was a difference of opinion about Ezra Cleveland - which is A.H's. choice at 30 while B.F. opined him as a 2/3 round pick (I also am not that high on Cleveland). In all, B.F. comments were certainly thought-provoking - which was facilitated by A.H. - which really was his primary role in this podcast.

I have been downplaying the Claypools and Pittmans of the world. I've no interest in the Alshon Jeffrey clones. AR doesn't throw contested balls. That skillset is not that useful in GB.

I also appreciate noting that GB was 0-4 against teams that scored 25 points. GB needs to be able to win shootouts as well. I think GB is one dynamic WR (plus depth) away from having a terrific offense.

I wouldn't hate taking Josh Jones at pick 30, but I wouldn't love it. I'd be aghast at taking Austin Jackson at 30, or moving up into the teens or early twenties to take Jones, or worse, Jackson. I don't like taking Cleveland at 30 because it is a reach. I like Cleveland in the mid to late second.

Some differing views from Ben Fennel’s take (just from a fan for the sake of conversation as Turophile suggests):

If BG and the Packers front office is truly forward thinking they will approach this draft with:
1) Top priority of BPA
2) Replacing as many 2021 FAs as they can (King, Linsley etc)
3) Drafting many different positions with their first 4 picks rather than doubling up at any position in the first 4 rounds (see #2)
4) Trade down out of round 1, but trade up in the 3rd likely to get a quality player who falls

The fallout from a rebound COVID19 pandemic this fall will likely effect the NFL and the economy significantly

Projections from medical experts:
1) Non-spectator games might be able to be played this fall IF they have reliable mass antibody testing so the 160-200 employees needed to make a game happen can come to the stadium (players, coaching staff, camera crew, security etc).
2) A mass produced reliable vaccine probably won’t be available for 1 year
3) Severely limited offseason
4) Possible truncated season? (i.e. 2 games cancelled or something)
5) Decreased revenue for teams
6) A recession is coming (hopefully small and 1-2 year temporary)
7) The Cap likely will not be expanded much at all (despite earlier projections in that economic climate)

This adds up in my mind to getting quality replacements for 2021 FAs they let walk or unfortunately need to be cap casualties. Smart so far of not resigning Clark and Bahk at least until after the draft and the likely financial climate closer to the season is known.

I agree with Fennell on trading down being a tremendous move this year to gain more 1-4 round picks. I do not think it would be wise to draft more than 2 WRs as that would limit other positions they could replace.

If trade down in 1st get an extra 2nd and 4th, something like:
2) CB
2) OT
3) WR
4) ILB
4) TE
5) run stuffing DL
6) WR
6) RB
6) Super Developmental swing OT?
7) Developmental Backup QB
7) Whomever

If I had to guess what BG might do it would be something like trade down in 1st get an extra 2nd and 4th and then up in 3rd with a 5th, 6th and a 7th? Could be worth it, though being more like Seattle 2019 this year may be a better long term financial move.

Another differing thought from Fennell: Cesar Ruiz would be worth considering if he falls to 30:

May be able to let Taylor go this year and not resign Linsley next year if Cesar Ruiz is the pick.

Without trades draft could go:

1) OL (Cesar Ruiz C/G)
2) DL (Davon Hamilton or Raekwon Davis)
3) ILB (Logan Wilson or Jordyn Brooks)
4) WR (Darnell Mooney, Quartney Davis or John Hightower) or TE (Dalton Keene or Josiah Deguara) or backup QB (Tyler Huntley)

5 on BPA with a blocking TE if not taken earlier, developmental backup swing OT, runstuffing DL prospect, another WR, RB, developmental backup QB likely

FYI, Info on what it takes to develop an effective safe vaccine that can be mass manufactured in 12 months (see link). On the plus side with so many international companies working on a vaccine the odds might be better than a developmental 4th round OT becoming a starter:
https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/coronavirus/there-are-reasons-to-be-optim...