Mock Draft Monday - Tabulating Readers' Mocks

The Packers are in a good position to do some damage in this draft while setting the team up for the long term.

I looked at all the mocks in my last Mock Draft Monday article plus mocks that I found in the comment sections of some other recent articles on CHTV and tabulated the results below.  Yes, my head is spinning a bit.  I wanted to provide a general sense of where the readership is on the upcoming draft.  That meant I had to do this less systematically than I normally would.  Some readers issued a lot of mocks, which is great, but including every one would have skewed the results too far.

For example, one person mocked Devin Lloyd at pick 22 multiple times, but I only counted that as one mock for Lloyd.  Two other people also mocked Lloyd at pick 22, so in the table I listed Lloyd with 3 mocks naming him as the selection at pick 22.  I did count that person's mocks which named someone else as the selection at pick 22.  I also counted people who replied enthusiastically in favor of selecting any particular player at a specific slot.  Some folks also only did mocks for the first few rounds.  Thus, the total numbers for pick 22 do not equal the numbers for pick 28, and so on.

It should also be remembered that these mocks are all just for fun.  My first mock had no wide receivers in which I was interested left on the board at pick 22 and pick 28.  I ended up with no wide receivers until the fourth round because I did not allow trades.  It just happened that no receivers fit the picks until the fourth, in my opinion and to my chagrin. 

Finally, there are a lot of names that do not appear in the table who are fine prospects.  Many were so highly rated that they were off the board by pick 22, and then there are a lot of prospects who fell in between the Packers' scheduled picks.  24 players will be selected after pick 28 and prior to pick 53. 

 

Pick 22 Pick 28 Pick 53 Pick 59
WR C Olave (6) WR Burks (14) WR Watson (10) DE L Hall (7)
WR T Burks (5) CB A Booth (3) TE T McBride (6) WR G Pickens (6)
OT T Penning (5) CB Hill (2) DT T Jones (5) WR J Tolbert (6)
CB D Hill (4) CB Cine (2) WR A Pierce (5) OT Petit-Frere (4)
OLB Karlaftis (4) LB Lloyd (2) DT Wyatt (4) ED Sanders (3)
ED J. Johnson (4) WR London (2) CB Booth (3) ED S Williams (3)
DT Wyatt (3) NT Wyatt (2) ED B Mafe (3) WR Watson (2)
OL K Green (3) WR Dotson (2) ED N Bonito (3) WR D Bell (2)
ILB D. Lloyd (3) WR Watson (2) DE C Thomas (3) ED B Mafe (2)
WR D. London (2) CB T McDuffie (2) DL Winfrey (3) OT A Lucas (2)
LB N. Dean (2) OT Penning (1) DE Enagbare (2) WR A Pierce (2)
WR J. Williams (2) NT Davis (1) LB C Muma (2) DE C Thomas (2)
NT J. Davis WR Williams (1) WR J Dotson (2) CB Cine (1)
CB L Cine WR Olave (1) ED N Bonitto (2) ED Ebiketie (1)
WR J Dotson S J. Brisker (1) OT Penning (1) LB Muma (1)
WR G Wilson DL J Johnson (1) NT Davis (1) S J Brisker (1)
CB K Elam LB C. Harris (1) ILB C Harris (1) RB K Walker (1)
CB A. Booth WR A. Pierce (1) WR D Bell (1) WR S. Moore (1)
  DL P Winfrey (1) WR Williams (1) LB Q Walker (1)
  CB D Stingley (1) LB Q Walker (1) S J Pitre (1)
    DT P. Mathis (1) LB C Tindall (1)
    RB K Walker (1) OT B Raimann (1)
    WR S Moore (1) RB Breece Hall (1)
    OT A Lucas (1) Ol J Salyer (1)
    OT D Faalele (1) LB L Chanel (1)
    ED M Sanders (1) CB M Jones (1)
    ED D Ojabo (1) ED D Ojabo (1)
    WR G Pickens (1) TE Jelani Woods (1)
       

 

As usual, somehow players fall in the mocks and some no doubt will inexplicably (to fans, anyway) fall on draft day.  If Trent McDuffie or Darryl Stingley were available at pick 28, regardless of team needs, it should be difficult not to select them.  Other players listed may not have tested well enough in certain drills for the Packers to select, but the Packers do make the occasional exception. 

The draft is both a sequential selection of players but it also needs to have some cohesiveness as a whole.  I certainly found myself selecting different players later in the draft depending on which players I had previously selected.  I found only one mock which selected George Pickens at pick 53 whereas ten mocks selected Watson at 53.  I think people mind be changing their minds on some players as we approach the draft or because some players tested at late pro days (or folks just found more information on some players). 

Looking at the first four picks, I came away encouraged.  I would be fine with most of the players mentioned for pick 22.  Things get dicier when the Packers have already taken some players because at that point I have to hope that the available talent will align with need and positional value reasonably well.

 

PICK 92
4: WR Alec Pierce, TE Jelani Woods, LB Leo Chanel.
3: LB Channing Tindall, LB Quay Walker
2: WR Romeo Doubs, DT Travis Jones, Nicholas Petit-Frere, TE Jeremy Ruckert, DE Isiah Thomas, Edge Sam Williams, OT Jamaree Salyer, WR Erik Ezukamna, TE Cade Otten.
1: DT Phidarian Mathis, WR Calvin Austin, DE Amaree Barno, RB Isiah Spiller, RB Darrian Beavers, WR Danny Gray,
WR Jalen Tolbert, OT Zach Tom, CB Martin Emerson, WR Khalil Shakir, OG Cole Strange, CB Jalen Pitre,

 

PICK 132
5: TE Charlie Kolar; 4: TE Jaleni Woods; 3: LB Troy Anderson
2: DT John Ridgeway, LB Leo Chanel, Edge Sam Williams, OT Dare Rosenthal.
1: IDL Neil Farrell, Edge Joshua Paschal, IDL Haskel Garrett, CB D Mathis, OT Tom Zach, DB Storm Duck,
RB Kenneth Walker, OT Abe Lucas, WR Calvin Austin, DE Dominique Robinson, LB Channing Tindall,
WR Jalen Tolbert, CB Alontae Taylor, TE Grant Calcaterra, S Nick Cross, OT Rasheed Walker, S Bryon Cook
TE Chigoziem Okonko, LB Darrian Beavers

 

PICK 140
3: TE Jelani Woods, WR Tyquan Thornton
2: RB Rachad White, WR Justyn Ross, WR Velus Jones, TE Chig Okonko, DE Alex Wright, OT Zach Tom, CB Kerby Joseph
1: TE Charlie Kolar, CB Coby Bryant, OT Braxton Jones, DT Noah Eliss, OT Max Mitchell, IOL Alec Lindstrom, OT Obinna Eze, DT Eyioma Uwazurike, OT Matt Waletzko, CB Tariq Castro-Fields, RB Pierre Strong, OT Zion Nelson, LB Troy Anderson, Edge Josh Paschal, LB Jesse Luketa, FS Smoke Monday, DT Otto Ogbonnia, Edge Jeffrey Gunter

 

PICK 171
3: S/LB/ST Sterling Weatherford, OT Zach Tom, Edge Josh Paschal, OT Nick Zakelg, DT Eyioma Uwazurike, 
2: OT Abe Lucas, IOL Alec Lindstrom, S Bryan Cook, IOL Thayer Munford
1: OT Jackson Kirkland, DL Scott Paschan, CB Joshua Williams, RB Hassan Haskins, WR Bo Melton, OT Vederian Lowe, S Marquise Bell, OLB Brenton Cox, LB Zakoby McClain, OT Cordell Volson, Edge Deangelo Malone, TE Trent Calcaterra, WR Justyn Ross, CB Montarice Brown

 

PICK 228
2: Nick Zalkelg, TE Jalen Wydermyer, WR Tanner Connor, LB Olakunle Fatakusi, Edge Amare Barno, CB Kalon Barnes, WR Bo Melton, DL Zack VanValkenburg, WR Danny Gray, DE Dominique Robinson, OT Cordell Volson, OG Logan Bruss, S Bryan Cook
1: WR Velus Jones, S Stephen Nelson, S Leon O'Neal, TE Dan Bellinger, CB Tyriq Woolen, LB Jack Sanborn, RB Pierre Strong, DL Neil Farrell, OL Ryan Van Demark, Edge Ali Floyd, RB D'vonte Price

 

PICK 249
3: TE Trent Calcaterra, TE Greg Dulchich, RB Pierre Strong
2: TE Danny Gray, WR Velus Jones, Percy Butler, Luke Fortner, Quay Holmes.
1: OT Spence Burford, IOL Tyrese Robinson, RB Michael Carter, OT Luke Goedeke, WR Tre Turner, OT Obinna Eze, S/LB/ST Sterling Weatherford, DT Andrew Ogletree, WR Dareke Young, Edge Myron Tagovaila-Amosa, TE Chase Allen, LB Chance Campbell. 

 

PICK 258
4: CB Kalon Barnes, WR Danny Gray
3: P Matt Araiza, LB Kyron Johnson, Edge Jeremiah Moon
2: P Jordan Stout, WR Erik Ezukamna, WR Tyquan Thornton, WR Jalen Nailor, TE Austin Allen, IOL Chris Paul, FB Zander Horvath
1: OG Blaise Andries, TE Lucas Krull, OT Caleb Jones, OT Zach Thomas, DT Thomas Booker, WR Kevin Austin, OT Kellen Diesch, CB Zyon McCallum, S Nasir Greer, S Marquise Bell, WR Devin Thompkins, OT Tyler Vrabel, OT Bamidele Olaseni.

There is a lot to discuss over the final seven picks, but little room.  Suffice to say that neither punter, Araiza or Stout, are likely to be on the board in round seven.  Clearly, the various mock draft sites differ greatly on the value of a lot of players, especially wide receivers like Velus Jones and Danny Gray.  Some of the running backs look too good to last as long as they have in these mock drafts.  Again, though, I was encouraged because there were usually a number of players available that I believe could help the team at each pick.    

 

 

 

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MooPack's picture

April 11, 2022 at 04:29 pm

These are the tops names at each spot for me:

22. S/CB Dax Hill / EDGE George Karlaftis
28. WR Christian Watson / EDGE Boye Mafe
53. LB Troy Andersen / DT Perrion Winfrey / DT Travis Jones
59. RT Abraham Lucas / WR Alec Pierce
92. TE Jelani Woods / WR Jalen Tolbert / EDGE Sam Williams / RT Max Mitchell / TE Jeremy Ruckert
132. TE Charlie Kolar / S Nick Cross / DT Zachary Carter
140. WR Velus Jones / RT/G Zach Tom/ EDGE Amare Barno
171. DT Thomas Booker / DT Eyioma Uwazurike / DE Isaiah Thomas / WR Erik Ezukanma
7th - WR Isaiah Weston / WR Samori Toure / RB Tyler Goodson

Did this on The Draft Network:
22.S/CB Daxton Hill
28.WR Christian Watson
53.LB Troy Andersen
59.RT Abraham Lucas
92.TE Jelani Woods
132.RT/G Zach Tom
140.DT Eyioma Uwazurike
171.EDGE Amaré Barno
228.WR Erik Ezukanma
249.WR Samori Toure

I went with Daxton Hill over Karlaftis who has dropped some. Dax is a FS that has played a lot of slot and a couple scouts think he can play outside. His athleticism will allow him to play early in rookie season and I think could take over for Savage, who may not be back next year, by years end. IMO, his addition allows the DBs to move all over and makes the Packers secondary elite and best in the NFL. I think Karlaftis is in the mode of Z who can move all along the Dline and provide more of a power rushing Edge. I also thinks it's better to have different rusher types to keep the offense guessing.

The WR draft this year has a lot of different types, but I'm going with Watson. Tall, good sized, fast WRx that fits the Packers and LeFluer's need for speed on the outside to take coverage off. Right now he is consensus ranked around #40. If they don't take him at #28, he'll be gone by #53. It'd be nice if they could trade up into 35-40 range, but may have to give too much to get there. Mofe is a Gary clone, but WR is bigger need.

May get some flak for LB Troy Andersen at this spot, but it's another one of those guys that is graded in the no-mans land of the Packers picks. If you don't take him here, he's probably gone. I think Andersen is a hidden gem of this draft. High IQ, Uber athletic sideline-to-sideline speed with experience playing QB and RB as well. Almost every great defense has had two very good and fast LBs. Anderson, Barnes, and Campbell will be the ABC's of linebackers. With Hill and Andersen this D will be elite at every level.

Abraham Lucas will lock down RT for a decade. One less spot of shuffling the Oline and give great protection to the $150 million dollar man. He should have all day throwing hero bombs to Watson.

3rd round was the toughest for me. Packers too as they have pretty much .... the bed in the 3rd. I'm pretty much split between Jelani Woods and Jalen Tolbert. Jelani or Jalen, Jalen or Jelani. Flip a coin. I went with the TE with bigger upside than the start now WR. But ask me on a different day and it changes.

In the 4th and later rounds it gets dicier. I'd take the very athletic T/G Zac Tom who could replace Newman. If all pans out, the Oline would be the best in football. Bakh, Jenkins, Myers, Tom, Lucas. Runyan as swing guard and Nijman as swing tackle.

Grabbed a big body DT in Uwazurike and an Edge project in Barno. He needs to add weight. Topped draft off with a couple underrated WRs that could contribute on Special Teams. Edge was the one position that was hard to fit. If Woods and Tolbert are gone in the 3rd, I'd take Edge Sam Williams. Has some character issues, but the Packers brought him in for a visit. They're probably bringing him in for that reason as well. See how he interviews.

That's 4 high potential starters with very good potential for 6. Throw in an after draft released cheap vet Edge and/or WR and we're set. SB or bust.

[EDIT] forgot to add pick 258. I'm going with WR Tom Grossi

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LambeauPlain's picture

April 11, 2022 at 03:20 pm

I do not see Lucas beating out Nijman as a rookie.

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Frolio's picture

April 11, 2022 at 04:35 pm

Overall not bad, but feels a bit reachy at the top. That said, if it's a 10-draft-spot reach on draft day but you hit on the player, it's all good.

It sounds like you want to kick Newman to the curb after his rookie season. Not sure I'd do that, as he improved as the season went along. I think he's part of the future on the O-line.

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MooPack's picture

April 11, 2022 at 04:51 pm

Regarding Newman, I see what you are saying. He held up better end of season. My thinking is they just spent a BIG junk of change on the QB to lead us to the promised land. They better make sure he is well protected. If Newman beats out a rookie, so be it. But if they have a chance to get better at that spot and either avoid a lot of shuffling again or at least have much better backups, then I'd spend draft capitol on it. I'm not real confident in the other backups not mentioned.

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Oppy's picture

April 11, 2022 at 06:14 pm

After flat-out winning the starting role in training camp / preseason (surprisingly, I may add), Newman really struggled first half of the season but I agree he made vast strides and really proved something in 2021. I think Newman will be a valuable piece of the Packers OL for a number of years.

That said, I don't think he's done enough to prove he's what you really want in your starting RG. I think the Packers should absolutely be looking for a better player at RG. I think the ideal role for Newman at this point is a back up OG with both upside and a lot of experience for a first year player.

I wouldn't call it kicking him to the curb, but I think RG is a position that could use an upgrade if possible.

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Oppy's picture

April 11, 2022 at 07:37 pm

Royce Newman's mom apparently reads CHTV

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Coldworld's picture

April 11, 2022 at 11:51 pm

I thought Newman was improving noticeably by the last quarter of the season.

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Oppy's picture

April 12, 2022 at 09:43 am

I agree.

I just don't know if he's got the ceiling you want for your starting RG.
I would continue to draft OG and see what shakes out.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

April 11, 2022 at 10:27 pm

Writing the snap count articles, I think I made some animadversions about Newman early. I was encouraged later because he showed the ability to just plumb move people on run blocks. His pass pro improved a bit so that his biggest problem was stunts and awareness as opposed to being physically beaten.

It looks to me like he belongs in the NFL. I don't know if he will be a quality starter this year but I think he can play.

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LLCHESTY's picture

April 11, 2022 at 11:14 pm

I hope he's spending the off-season in the film room because those missed stunts were very noticeable. I'd imagine even teams that don't stunt a lot will give him some looks until he proves he can stop them.

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LLCHESTY's picture

April 12, 2022 at 02:26 am

Now there's a word I haven't heard or seen in about 30 years. When I transferred to the UW I had gotten a two year degree but was still considered a Sophomore because I needed a couple required courses. One was English so I took an English in Poli Sci course to kill two birds with one stone. I didn't have a handle on the course numbering system so I didn't realize it was a graduate level course(700s). The professor used words like that all the time, left me scrambling to figure out what the hell he was talking about. I remember one time we sat down and he talked for an hour and fifteen minutes straight on two chapters of an Arthur Koestler book and I walked out thinking that's not what I got out of it at all. Might as well been reading 3rd century Arabian poetry and asking me what it was about. Umm, sand?

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LLCHESTY's picture

April 12, 2022 at 02:26 am

Now there's a word I haven't heard or seen in about 30 years. When I transferred to the UW I had gotten a two year degree but was still considered a Sophomore because I needed a couple required courses. One was English so I took an English in Poli Sci course to kill two birds with one stone. I didn't have a handle on the course numbering system so I didn't realize it was a graduate level course(700s). The professor used words like that all the time, left me scrambling to figure out what the hell he was talking about. I remember one time we sat down and he talked for an hour and fifteen minutes straight on two chapters of an Arthur Koestler book and I walked out thinking that's not what I got out of it at all. Might as well been reading 3rd century Arabian poetry and asking me what it was about. Umm, sand?

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Oppy's picture

April 12, 2022 at 09:45 am

Like I said, I think he'll be an important contributor to the Packers for years. I'm just not sold as him being a high level starter.

I'm not knocking the guy. I think anyone who's on the 53 is a talented football player. I just believe he might have more value as your backup swing guard than your starting RG.

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Coldworld's picture

April 12, 2022 at 12:41 pm

If he can get his recognition skills up to speed, I think his physical talent is impressive. It’s the mental aspect that’s the issue. As always, that’s hard to judge from outside, but he got better as time went on, which is promising.

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Oppy's picture

April 12, 2022 at 04:01 pm

Well, for what it's worth, I thought David Bakhtiari was nothing to write home about during his first few years and clearly was just a placeholder until we found a real OT. LOL.

I think I'm probably a far better judge of DL talent than OL.

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LambeauPlain's picture

April 11, 2022 at 03:17 pm

Thanks for the summation, TGR. Really some nice prospects for the Pack in this draft.

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blondy45's picture

April 11, 2022 at 07:57 pm

This is my hope for a day 1 trade with JAX... #28 (660) to Jax for ... #33 (580) first pick round 2, + #265 (106) first pick on day 3 of draft 4th round + #188 6th round (14.6) currently 57 picks between our #171 & #228 picks =total of 676.6 points. This trade gives us 1-2-2-2-3-4-4-4-5-6-7-7-7 13 picks, 8 picks in the top 140. Talk about draft capital to move around the board, this would certainly do that. We don't need 13 picks, but we could end up with 6-7 picks to cherry pick who we want this year. I know this is a pipe dream, but it sure was fun dreaming up this trade hope. Jax presently has 1-2-3-3-4-5-6-6-6-6-7-7 12 picks.

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Leatherhead's picture

April 11, 2022 at 03:58 pm

Still trying to load up the offense.
Still trying to put the best offensive line in the league together
Still willing to trade down to get more picks.

#22 Treylon Burks, because he's the best big WR on the board at that point.
#28 Trade to the Purple for #46 and #77
#46 Trade to Atlanta for #58 and #82

Essentially that's trading #28 for #58, #77, and #82

#53 George Pickens, because I think he'll be a real good WR for us.
#58 OL Sean Rhyan
#59 RB Isaiah Spiller

#82 Jeremy Ruckert, TE
#92 OL Lecitus Smith

#132 Velus Jones, WR
#140 Charlie Kolar, TE

Eight guys, all offense, and I think that every one of them would make the 53 man roster.

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Johnblood27's picture

April 11, 2022 at 06:08 pm

like your picks, very realistic on their impact on the gbp roster.

cant buy 8 straight offense selections when edge, dl and safety are thin and cb is always a need

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Coldworld's picture

April 11, 2022 at 08:04 pm

It’s surely a consensus that we need an Edge rusher? We can’t go in with 2 and Garvin etc. I am not sure it’s a much if a consensus, but I think their is a strong case that we need a DL and S. I’m actually less concerned about the OL. We will get one, but that’s probably all I think.

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Coldworld's picture

April 11, 2022 at 07:59 pm

I like the trading down if it works that way. There are plenty of needs we need to fill or find improvement on the back end/ST.

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stockholder's picture

April 11, 2022 at 09:34 pm

#22 Burks. Good Pick. But your trades are wrong.= If Gutey goes up. He could get a Davenport. (Bust) = If he takes a RT,( he could get a Spriggs). Have the packers ever had a bust, taking a WR early? ( Not if they're a legit rd 1 grade. ) And Burks is Legit.!! Which is why he'll go before 20. The packers need a Edge: to replace Smith and M. Whitney. ( The packers need that rotation.) More "pressure"; and it was obvious when Whitney went down. Edge will be the target early. Not the DL. Burks sets his draft. If he wants an Air Attack for years to come. But I believe edge will change his draft board. And that will be a big mistake. Almost bigger than Love.

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NickPerry's picture

April 12, 2022 at 05:40 am

Remember LH... Gute ALWAYS drafts with a eye on the future. IMO Gute will draft a Safety and an Edge player at some point in this draft.

I LOVE Pickens even though he scares me (injuries) a little. Pickens at 53 would be a steal. NO WAY does Gute use another 2nd on a RB either.

I'm curious...Was Jelani Woods available at 82 where you took Ruckert...IF so Jelani Woods all day IMO. Woods runs 4.5 but is what, 6'5" 245 or thereabouts? Plus he can black AND catch...Sign me up my friend!

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Leatherhead's picture

April 12, 2022 at 08:52 am

I appreciate the input....it's a lot more useful than anonymous chickenshit downvotes.

I went all-offense, even though I know Gutekunst won't. My thinking was that if we're going to pay $50 million to take another shot with Rodgers, we should put the strongest possible offense around him, and that includes blockers. And as you said, Gute drafts for the future, and eventually Jones will be gone and Dillon will be in his contract year, and that's why I included the RB.

Jelani Woods. A good pickup, no doubt. I also like Tolbert quite a bit. But I already had two WRs, and I knew I was taking one in the 4th, so I wasn't really looking at WR anymore.

There are people here who think blockers aren't important and we're fine. I disagree profoundly with that. A line of Bakhtiari, Runyan, Myers, Newman and Nijman might be adequate, until we get injuries. Then what are we looking at? No, beef up that line so that Rodgers, or whoever, has adequate time and protection and so that Jones and Dillon have holes.

There are people we could use on defense: A third safety and a third edge rusher. I think that since we already have Clark, Lowry, Reed, and Slaton we're not going to see much investment in a DL. The third safety and third edge are part time players and if I were Gutekunst, I'd try to fill those on final roster cutdowns. Basically, we're returning everybody from what was a very good defense last year, so I'm not seeing defense as being a big priority.

You know, we only dress 21 offensive players, including two QBs. The fact that I could add EIGHT offensive players to that group should have everybody feeling some concern.

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PackEyedOptimist's picture

April 12, 2022 at 09:14 am

I agree with ALMOST everything you said here, LN. I really feel the Packers almost NEED another starting LB. Barnes isn't better than a C-, and there are a bunch of A- guys in this draft.

I'd really love to see this defensive roster with a Lloyd/Dean/Muma/Chenal/Walker/Harris/Tindall etc. alongside Campbell.

I also think picking up cheap, older, vets could patch some of the holes, but rookie LBs and DBs are also great for the special teams

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Leatherhead's picture

April 12, 2022 at 09:47 am

Which ever LB you pick is going to be sitting on the bench most of the time. Campbell is going to play. On over half the defensive snaps, we only have one ILB on the field.

I have no idea what the C- is about. I know that Barnes is two years older, two years stronger, two years more experienced than anybody we could get in the draft.

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stockholder's picture

April 12, 2022 at 11:37 am

Everyone is pointing to age, and the 3 cone test now. Dean and Chenal are my favorite Lbs.

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greengold's picture

April 12, 2022 at 03:38 pm

To me, we could trade both 22 and 28 and walk away a far better team. There is that much talent.

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Leatherhead's picture

April 12, 2022 at 03:56 pm

A bold thought. I've kind of wondered myself. But I'm a fan of simplicity

Take the two picks I got for Adams and spend them on WRs.
Trade #28 for two Day Two picks and use them both on OL
Use our remaining 3 picks on two TEs and another WR.

That's loading up the offense. It replaces the three WR we lost as well as the two offensive line starters we lost and strengthens the TE unit.

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PackEyedOptimist's picture

April 12, 2022 at 09:26 am

As I explain below, I want some defense, especially a good ILB. That said, I wouldn't mind this draft result, and you and I both love trade-downs!
Burks + Pickens + Jones is a great WR fill.
Love Rhyan, not sure L Smith fits the Packers' offense, but I like him.
Kolar and Ruckert are both good blockers, so they'd mostly compete to replace Marcedes.
I'm completely on board with a RB. I like Hill, but who knows if he fully recovers? I like Taylor, too, but I'd still happily add a RB, especially if I think he can also be a returner. My favorite is to pick up Kyren Williams with a fourth; I think he might drop to there, and I think he'll be a surprisingly good pro. He also ran a 4.56 at his pro day, to offset his 4.64 at the combine. Williams is GREAT at pass-pro, has fantastic hands, and has that crazy athletic flexibility and balance of guys like Walter Payton. He also returned a few punts, and I think he'd be great at that.

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Lphill's picture

April 11, 2022 at 04:14 pm

I don’t think the Packers take an O lineman or receiver with pick 22 if any top edge guys are there , many scouts say Olave is not first round material but you never know.

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Frolio's picture

April 11, 2022 at 04:37 pm

It's funny - I've read that the two Ohio State WRs are going to go way earlier than expected.

I guess it's misinformation season, and we'll see in less than 3 weeks what's real.

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 11, 2022 at 07:09 pm

They may both be gone by the 13th pick.

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LLCHESTY's picture

April 11, 2022 at 07:57 pm

Good. Gutey won't be tempted to trade up for them then!

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frankthefork's picture

April 11, 2022 at 05:06 pm

Serious work again by TGR...thank you.
Every year I say trade back and get more cheap labor; so nothing new in my viewpoint.
I see BG taking 5 picks for the defense DT, DE, LB S CB and 6 for offense( 3 wr, OT, RB, and TE) as of right now.
I usually can guess 3 players right annually...but personally, I will wait a week before posting my SEC and Big Ten heavy draft picks. Wyatt, Burks, Mafe, walker, Petit-Frere, Ruckert, Ross, Evans, Hawkins, White, Nailor, Flott are the names BG will look at. An extra for a possible trade back.

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Oppy's picture

April 11, 2022 at 05:39 pm

I'm assuming this year's draft is going to be even harder to predict that usual due to so many teams having multiple 1st round picks (and therefore, so many teams not having first round picks).

I am guessing there will be a lot of trading up/down on day 1. If that indeed happens, there will probably be teams with specific needs entering the first round via trades that haven't been accounted for in most mocks. That could throw an even bigger wrench in everyone's prognostication than usual, and it's usually a pretty big crap shoot to begin with.

Mucho heads shall explode. I will enjoy it all for the three days of the draft. Then, I will want to blow my own head clean off after being fatigued by all the draftniks going ballistic for two weeks about this team and that team having no idea what they're doing because they picked a player at pick "x" that -clearly- wasn't worth anything more than spending a pick "y on.

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Coldworld's picture

April 11, 2022 at 07:57 pm

I think you are right on the unpredictability with the multiple picks and the poorly rated QB pool. I see a lot of drafts picking players for other teams that I’m not sure make sense.

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greengold's picture

April 12, 2022 at 06:50 am

This is some “A-Game,” right here opps.

I’m to the point where I may be done with this draft stuff. Nobody seems to care about research, or real info that provides answers as to the “why” or “how,” on some players. Rather, just jumping on trends, listing names the draft industry tells you are good for the serotonal release.

Christian Watson competition faced. Go.

Treylon Burks game logs. Go.

David Bell’s QB. Go.

Bo Melton’s QB. Go.

Player success/prognosis after ACL surgery, and the different types of ACL surgery. Go.

The draft industry gives you flash numbers and hype. Then when the pick is in, everybody goes: “WHOOOO???” Dig deeper into - Pro-ready - traits. They don’t involve limited route trees, beating up on weaker foes, etc. How do these players fare vs. top competition?

What does our GM gravitate towards? Metrics and ascending stats. Advanced stats metrics. Histories. Traits which set them apart from the others. Physical gifts that fit the system. Competition faced. Not just one of these, but all of these considerations factor into each draft choice with the mindset of making an investment, and projected ROI at the Pro level.

Draft picks are valuable. Dig. Do the research. Who might be a better choice in this slot and why?

*** what are the physical traits of the best Pro players at a given position as a model…??? How does your choice measure up?

I can give you a better, faster, more proven deep ball threat than Christian Watson at the back of this draft.

Thoroughly disgusted by Aaron Rodgers’ antics, and the poor handling of them leading us to this point, along with some previous oversights by Gutekunst leading the Packers further to this point, where there’s no margin for error.

This draft could go down as one of the most important in Packers history, based on what we’ve been lead to believe are the stakes & timetable.

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ImaPayne's picture

April 11, 2022 at 05:46 pm

My mind says two receivers pretty early to get some speed size and quality and forget trying to be a hero with some bum undrafted no one ever heard of whose a three year developmental and then some.
Wow we need linebackers and pass rushers. The ones we have need back ups. Lions Vikes Bears are going for pass rush to put guys in Rodgers face all day.
O line could use some back up, our guys are all injury prone and cant take an entire season. Late round and undrafteds fill ins.
This team needs a lot and 11 picks will not do it but its a start on the major rebuild we are doing this year, even though the Org doesnt see it as a rebuild, it is. There are no stars on this team other then Rodgers. Everyone else has something to prove.

Yes we lost some talent (Adams)but also got rid of deadwood, guys who never developed (St Brown- others) so there is some good and bad mixed in but the deadwood kills you.

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Oppy's picture

April 11, 2022 at 06:13 pm

Don't be entirely sure the deadwood was really dead.
Only time will tell, but I get the feeling that some of the trees weren't being watered.

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LLCHESTY's picture

April 11, 2022 at 06:23 pm

There's no law in Deadwood.

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MainePackFan's picture

April 11, 2022 at 07:04 pm

ImaPayne, Your name is appropriate. I read this mess 4 times and I still don't know WTF you are talking about :)

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JerseyAl's picture

April 11, 2022 at 08:43 pm

"There are no stars on this team other than Rodgers" He has to be the infamous COW returned to troll us once more

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LLCHESTY's picture

April 11, 2022 at 08:57 pm

I think he's just ready to fight for the Mr Negativity title!

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JerseyAl's picture

April 11, 2022 at 08:59 pm

Won't be much fighting needed - he may win it by default.

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BirdDogUni's picture

April 11, 2022 at 06:14 pm

James - I'm glad I gave you plenty of data to go through! : ) Well done.

SHOUT OUT - FYI - The CHTV DRAFT GUIDE is full of great information.

I was surprised by the conclusion that we need to trade Jordan Love for whatever we can get, but that is one opinion. Although, I would "love" it if a team were to think Jordan Love were the best option for them and offered Gutey their 1st round pick for JL instead of drafting a Kenny Pickett or Malik Willis or Desmond Ridder...

I might lose my mind if the Steelers were to offer their 20th Overall pick for Jordan Love, but I do feel Jordan is better than any QB available in the draft this year, so it isn't out of the realm of possibility is it?

If someone were to trade for Jordan Love, we could probably trade down from 28 pretty easily and still end up with two 1st round picks. Hope Gutey is working overtime talking with those teams that need a QB. ; )

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

April 12, 2022 at 12:54 am

😁

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BirdDogUni's picture

April 11, 2022 at 09:16 pm

Don't ask me how Olave, Burks, Dotson, and London went before Wilson but, they did. No way I see Jordan Davis making it to 28 either, but I went ahead and drafted Garrett Wilson and hoped Davis would still be there at 28, and was lucky enough to get him. I can't even begin to tell you how stoked I would be for Kenny Clark and Jordan Davis to be on the field at the same time. Add TJ Slaton and that's over 1,000 lbs on the DL. ; )

Not to mention the rest of the draft.

22: R1 P22 WR Garrett Wilson - Ohio State
28: R1 P28 DL Jordan Davis - Georgia
53: R2 P21 WR Alec Pierce - Cincinnati
59: R2 P27 WR Velus Jones Jr. - Tennessee
92: R3 P28 LB Troy Andersen - Montana State
132: R4 P27 RB Pierre Strong Jr. - South Dakota St
140: R4 P35 EDGE Alex Wright - UAB
171: R5 P28 OT Braxton Jones - Southern Utah
228: R7 P7 S Tariq Carpenter - Georgia Tech
249: R7 P28 TE Cole Turner - Nevada
258: R7 P37 OT Ryan Van Demark - Connecticut

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Leatherhead's picture

April 12, 2022 at 01:35 pm

A lot of stuff to like there, but I do have a couple of concerns.

I think the OL is a lot more important than you do. Our hoped for starting Oline is Bakhtiari, who hasn't played in over a year, Runyan, Myers, who missed most of last season, Newman, and Nijman, who hasn't played any RT for us. That's what we're HOPING for. And if they get injured.....which they always do......we're going to have guys starting for us that aren't particularly gifted. I don't want our playoff hopes to involve a Day 3 rookie trying to block Aaron Donald.

The second thing is Jordan Davis. Yeah, he's a big, mobile guy. Do you think he's a three down guy? Isn't he kind of just a more athletic Ted Slaton? I mean, we play two DL on over half the plays, and three on first downs and short yardage. You want Kenny Clark on the field as much as you can, you've already got Slaton to be the first down nosehog, we've got Lowry and Reed for the other snaps......

Myself, I trade #28 and get some road graders instead. Whoever our QB is, whoever our skill position guys are, they're going to be better if we can get people blocked. If people are blocked, the offense is going to roll and the defense will be good enough. I mean, basically our entire defense from last year returns.

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BirdDogUni's picture

April 11, 2022 at 06:56 pm

PFN - This was kind of a weird draft.

22. Devonte Wyatt DT Georgia
28. Christian Watson WR North Dakota State
53. Trey McBride TE Colorado State
59. Alec Pierce WR Cincinnati
92. Isaiah Thomas EDGE Oklahoma
132. Amare Barno EDGE Virginia Tech
140. Velus Jones Jr. WR Tennessee
171. Austin Allen TE Nebraska
228. Eyioma Uwazurike DT Iowa State
249. Ryan Van Demark OT Connecticut
258. Jeremiah Moon LB Florida

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LLCHESTY's picture

April 11, 2022 at 07:15 pm

If they don't pick an Edge early I'd be really surprised if they don't end up with Paschal, Thomas or Gunter in the 4th round. They all have the athleticism the Packers seem to want there.

BTW Cam Thomas had 6.78 3-cone last week at 265 lbs. 👀 He's definitely in the Packers wheelhouse now in the 2nd round.

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glblank24's picture

April 11, 2022 at 07:18 pm

Someone here gets the Athletic. I'm thinking first round for Watson might be a reach. Kupp was a late riser but was still available in the third. Grab a different wideout at 28 and take Watson at 53.

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BirdDogUni's picture

April 11, 2022 at 07:56 pm

He won't make it past KC if we don't take him at 28. At least in my opinion. No way he makes it to 53. (At least I don't believe he will.)

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Coldworld's picture

April 11, 2022 at 08:08 pm

I’m fine if he doesn’t. He’s a project, a really enticing one, but not what we need to help this year and maybe not next.

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BirdDogUni's picture

April 11, 2022 at 08:33 pm

I totally disagree Cw. I don't think he's a project at all. I believe he will go in the first round, or before 45 at the very least. Hell, I've seen him gone to New England at 21 in several mock drafts. I'm not too worried about it either way, but NFL.com has Watson rated the #6 WR. He's listed at 6' 5" 208 lbs and ran a 4.36 40. (I thought he was 6' 4" but, unless it's a typo, he measured in at 6' 5" at the combine.

Watson will have to learn the NFL game, like any rookie, but project is not how I would describe him. Bigger and faster than MVS with much better body control and awareness. He's a natural with the ball in his hands, which MVS never was.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/christian-watson/32005741-5431-6591-b680-d...

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LLCHESTY's picture

April 11, 2022 at 08:59 pm

Has the same problem with the dropsies though. Reid will give him the same kind of stare Rodgers would!

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Coldworld's picture

April 11, 2022 at 11:58 pm

I was pushing his athleticism after the combine, but his hands are suspect and he needs a lot of work on technique and route tree development. Tremendous athlete but not an NFL ready receiver in my opinion. This year, that makes him a hard pass for me on day one and possibly until day 3.

I don’t like it, as I may of mentioned once or twice, but now we are here we need to give Rodgers as much as we can this year

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greengold's picture

April 12, 2022 at 07:01 am

Christian Watson’s competition faced on his way to a whopping 43 receptions for a little over 800 yds… (FFS I can’t believe I have to say this):

Albany W 28-6
Valparaiso W 64-0
Towson W 35-7
North Dakota W 16-10
Northern Iowa W 34-20
Illinois State W 20-0
Missouri State W 27-20
Indiana State W 44-2
SDSU L 19-27
Youngstown State W 49-17
South Dakota W 52-24
Southern Illinois W 38-7
East Tennessee W 27-3
James Madison W 20-14
Montana State W 38-10

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Coldworld's picture

April 12, 2022 at 12:46 pm

Velus might not be as big, but he might offer more in the short term because while he’s similarly raw as a WR, if with better hands, but is a proven returner now.

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LLCHESTY's picture

April 11, 2022 at 11:21 pm

I think he could come in and play the MVS role right away. I don't really like him in the 1st round but I don't see him making it past 40.

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Coldworld's picture

April 12, 2022 at 12:00 am

He may well be the recipient of the biggest combine boost this year. That’s a good reason to pause and think again generally.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

April 12, 2022 at 01:03 am

I was surprised that no one mocked Pickens to GB at 53 (IIRC, the one "vote" for Pickens at 53 was somebody who wrote a reply indicating they would have taken Pickens earlier). Everybody waited until 59, whereas Watson got a lot of love at 53. I am less surprised that Watson only got mocked a couple of times at 59: apparently, all the simulators had him mostly gone/off the board by 58.

I would not be surprised if he is one of the players who is selected in that set of 24 players I mentioned: picks 29 to 52.

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stockholder's picture

April 12, 2022 at 01:18 pm

Pickens is near the first rd.Now. Boom or Bust. Not the best 3 cone. Age is the hook.

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LLCHESTY's picture

April 11, 2022 at 07:10 pm

A no trades draft(that was kind of painful). I've seen an awful lot of writers saying scouts are telling them Cine really sticks out when they watch Georgia film. Everybody points out his wow plays vs the run but he has over 1000 snaps playing deep safety since 2019(most of it single high) and was a tone setter for a great defense. Georgia could have three LBs taken before day 2 ends and he had the most tackles on the team last year. The WRs I took all fit the Packers profile, missed on the 1st round ones. I think it's more likely Pierce is there at 53 than Pickens.
22.
Lewis Cine
S Georgia

28.
Travis Jones
DT Connecticut

53.
George Pickens
WR Georgia

59.
Jalen Tolbert
WR South Alabama

92.
Jelani Woods
TE Virginia

132.
Josh Paschal
EDGE Kentucky

140.
Zach Tom
OT Wake Forest

171.
Isaiah Weston
WR Northern Iowa

228.
Kana'i Mauga
LB USC

249.
Eric Johnson
DT Missouri State

258.
Ryan Van Demark
OT Connecticut

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BirdDogUni's picture

April 11, 2022 at 07:13 pm

I just got him with our 2nd pick in the 2nd round... ; )

Just goes to show you how different rankings are across platforms.

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LLCHESTY's picture

April 11, 2022 at 08:12 pm

I'd be shocked of he doesn't go first round. Georgia probably had the most athletic defense ever on a college team and he just plays with another gear compared to his teammates. Played big in their biggest games. Hill is super athletic too but Cine would bring a nasty attitude the Packers are missing.

https://twitter.com/Jordan_Reid/status/1512794253231022083?t=XJEplTPXcnc...

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BirdDogUni's picture

April 11, 2022 at 08:41 pm

Well, we're shocked every year by several guys who don't go in the 1st round and some that do. I'm sure it will be the same this year. Different teams, with different schemes, and different needs all vying for players who are ranked differently on every one of the 32 boards. There's always going to be surprises.

Don't get me wrong. I too love Cine, and hope he falls to us. Hell, maybe he's one of the guys that Gutey has already fallen in love with? Who knows?

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Coldworld's picture

April 11, 2022 at 08:09 pm

It’s not my “wish draft” with no WR in the first, but I would actually be very happy with that list of picks.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

April 12, 2022 at 01:14 am

That's a nice haul. Not precisely the positions I'd prefer, but GB could do a lot worse.

I am not really familiar with Mauga and Eric Johnson. I see Johnson is listed as DT #22 in the CHTV guide but there is no description.

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BirdDogUni's picture

April 11, 2022 at 07:11 pm

First-Pick - Close enough to perfect for me...

Round 1 Pick 22: Garrett Wilson, WR, Ohio State
Round 1 Pick 28: Devin Lloyd, ILB/OLB, Utah
Round 2 Pick 22: Devonte Wyatt, DT, Georgia
Round 2 Pick 28: Lewis Cine, FS/SS, Georgia
Round 3 Pick 28: Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State
Round 4 Pick 28: Isaiah Thomas, DE/OLB, Oklahoma (A+)
Round 4 Pick 35 (COMP): Leo Chenal, ILB/OLB, Wisconsin (A+)
Round 5 Pick 28: Danny Gray, WR, SMU (A)
Round 7 Pick 7: James Mitchell, TE, Virginia Tech (A+)
Round 7 Pick 28: Caleb Jones, OT, Indiana (A+)
Round 7 Pick 37 (COMP): Kalon Barnes, CB, Baylor (A+)

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Coldworld's picture

April 11, 2022 at 08:14 pm

If Wilson falls to 22, it is surely a no brain selection for us. I just can’t see him getting within 5 of us though. I’d take Watson in the third like a shot, but again I don’t see him being available. Gray is a great pick at the end of round 5. Chenal I do not get in the 4th, unless you see him as a viable edge rusher as some contend?

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BirdDogUni's picture

April 11, 2022 at 08:51 pm

Chenal can come off the Edge, but Campbell can't play forever, we need STs, and injuries happen. Couldn't pass him up. I think we would be lucky to get Watson at 53. I do know I expect him to go much higher than 53, but when you do a Mock, you can only draft the players available.

I don't see any scenario where Wilson falls to 22 either, but if he did, I don't think Gutey would say, "I can't take you Wilson, because there's no way you should be available." ; P

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BirdDogUni's picture

April 11, 2022 at 10:17 pm

22: R1 P22 WR Jameson Williams - Alabama
28: R1 P28 WR Christian Watson - North Dakota St
53: R2 P21 S Lewis Cine - Georgia
59: R2 P27 DL Travis Jones - Connecticut
92: R3 P28 EDGE Boye Mafe - Minnesota
132: R4 P27 EDGE Isaiah Thomas - Oklahoma
140: R4 P35 WR Danny Gray - SMU
171: R5 P28 TE Cole Turner - Nevada
228: R7 P7 TE Austin Allen - Nebraska
249: R7 P28 OT Ryan Van Demark - Connecticut
258: R7 P37 OT Bamidele Olaseni - Utah

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BirdDogUni's picture

April 11, 2022 at 10:45 pm

First-Pick
Round 1 Pick 28: Devin Lloyd, ILB/OLB, Utah
Round 2 Pick 1 (JAX): Andrew Booth Jr., CB, Clemson
Round 2 Pick 22: Devonte Wyatt, DT, Georgia
Round 2 Pick 27 (T.B.): Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State
Round 2 Pick 28: Sam Williams, DE/OLB, Ole Miss
Round 3 Pick 1 (JAX): George Pickens, WR, Georgia
Round 3 Pick 28: Alex Wright, DE/OLB, UAB
Round 4 Pick 28: Bryan Cook, FS/SS, Cincinnati
Round 4 Pick 35 (COMP): James Cook, RB, Georgia
Round 5 Pick 28: Neil Farrell Jr., DT, LSU
Round 7 Pick 7: James Mitchell, TE, Virginia Tech
Round 7 Pick 28: Ryan Van Demark, OT, Connecticut
Round 7 Pick 37 (COMP): Tyquan Thornton, WR, Baylor

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stockholder's picture

April 12, 2022 at 11:13 am

#22. Boye Mafe. ED. Minn.
#28. Christian Watson. WR. ND St.
#53. DeMarvin Leal. DT. Texas A& M
#59. Alex Pierce. WR Cinn.
#92. Sam Williams. Ed. Ole Mis
#132. Joshua Williams CB. Fayetteville State
#140. Velus Jones. Wr/PR Tenn.
#171. Tycen Anderson. S. Toledo
#228. Matt Araiza. P SD. State
#249. Tyler Goodson. RB Iowa
#258. Marquese. Bell. S. FL A&M

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BirdDogUni's picture

April 12, 2022 at 09:41 am

Hard to have two picks at 28, but you almost look sober for this draft. ; )

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stockholder's picture

April 12, 2022 at 11:12 am

I'm going to change it again. Because I still think Williams is the best WR in this class. ACL tears aren't anything. I think he's worth the gamble.

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LLCHESTY's picture

April 11, 2022 at 11:54 pm

PFF with no trades. Not my day to get WRs in the 1st round. Watson was kind of funny, PFF has him 74th on their board but for some reason his ADP is 53. 🤔 Packers picks and PFF's board didn't line up for DL at all. Kept missing LBs too. These mocks without trades really makes me hope Gutey trades down for an extra pick or two.

22. Jermaine Johnson ED
28. Lewis Cine S
53. Christian Watson WR
59. Jalen Tolbert WR
92 Jeremy Ruckert TE
132. Zach Tom OT
140. Velus Jones WR
171. John Ridgeway DT
228. Jeremiah Gemmel LB
248. Lucas Krull TE
259. Joshua Ezeudu G/OT

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LLCHESTY's picture

April 12, 2022 at 12:14 am

I might've missed someone but by my count the Packers lost 13 guys that got snaps last year and gained two. So I guess they could do a one pick for every player lost but it doesn't add competition to other spots or make up for the inevitable busts. I'd like to see 12 or 13 picks, even if their 5th or 6th rounders. There's a few players I like in that 171-228 range and COVID has added some depth to this draft. Plus right now they only have 5 picks for next year, most likely get a 5th for MVS.

WR- Adams, MVS, ESB
OL- Turner, Patrick, Braden
DL- Keke, Lancaster +Reed
ED- Za'darius
LB- Burks
DB- Sullivan, King, Black +The Raiders STer, don't remember his name.

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LLCHESTY's picture

April 12, 2022 at 01:36 am

PFN. Here's a one for one draft. I picked one player for every player lost this year minus the two spots that have already been filled.

22.
Treylon Burks
WR Arkansas

28.
Lewis Cine
S Georgia

53.
Travis Jones
DT Connecticut

59.
Cameron Thomas
EDGE San Diego State

92.
Jalen Tolbert
WR South Alabama

132.
Kellen Diesch
OT Arizona State

140.
Velus Jones Jr.
WR Tennessee

171.
Joshua Williams
CB Fayetteville State

228.
Dawson Deaton
OC Texas Tech

249.
Chance Campbell
LB Mississippi

258.
Blaise Andries
OG Minnesota

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stockholder's picture

April 12, 2022 at 04:59 pm

your best one!

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PackEyedOptimist's picture

April 12, 2022 at 07:42 am

This is why I'm amazed to see people write "I want to use picks to move up, because no way eleven rookies make the team." Seriously?!
1. Davante, 2. Z, 3. Patrick, 4. MVS, 5. EQSB, 6. Turner, 7. Kelley, 8. Lancaster, 9. Keke, 10. Burks, 11. Sullivan, not to mention 12. Bojorquez.
Yes, we've signed Reed (Keke) and O'Donnell (Bojorquez), but that's still TEN HOLES and we aren't even counting the many bottom-of-the-roster guys who can be upgraded.
Heck, if we draft WELL we could probably add fifteen to twenty rookies this year!

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

April 12, 2022 at 01:52 am

That's a fine haul for day one and two. Not as pleased with day three aside from Velus, who I just think would be fun to watch regardless of whether he becomes someone who plays 800 snaps per year.

Is Tom a center-only? And is Ridgeway and run-stuffer only? Ridgeway does not bother me in that sense: GB needs run stuffers, particularly if they can eat double teams.

Tom is different. If taken that high, what does that say about how the Packers feel about Myers? Of course, if he can play guard or backup OT, that's different.

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LLCHESTY's picture

April 12, 2022 at 03:00 am

Zach Tom played two years at center and then two years at LT so I think he could play anywhere but probably LT in the pros as he's "only" 6'-4". His measurables align really well with what the Packers look for, he had a 4.47 shuttle and 7.32 3-cone. Fennell said he's really boring and that's awesome.

I was higher on Ridgeway a couple months ago. I think Thomas Booker and Eyioma Uwazurike are both more athletic guys that can play 3-4 DE. Ridgeway is strong and was a state champion wrestler in high school so he knows leverage but he's mainly a bull rusher. He does well with double teams but slightly better than Lowry is probably his ceiling.

I watched a couple of Arkansas games and parts of a couple more because they play an interesting 3-3-5 defense with guys moving all over the place presnap. It worked pretty well against just about everybody but Georgia, they even played Alabama close. That might be why I like Burks too, Arkansas' QB is nothing to write home about. I read last week that some teams are worried about Burks keeping his weight under control. I thought perfect, why not bring him to the land of beer, brats and cheese? A WR with a gut would be, IDK...something?

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greengold's picture

April 12, 2022 at 07:19 am

If we don’t get better than, “slightly better than Lowry,” we’re in trouble. Yes, we need WR. We ALSO need RUN STOP: > 60% success for our opponents on 3rd & short …

DT is not a deep position in this draft. Neither is LB.

Get one WR (maybe 2) in top 5, maybe an OT, and you can guess the rest… Remember the 3 deepest talent position groups (OT, EDGE, WR). I’ll share this as an example:

22 DT Devonte Wyatt
28 S Lewis Cine
53 WR Alec Pierce
59 EDGE Cam Thomas
93 LB Channing Tindall
132 WR Jalen Tolbert
140 WR David Bell
171 RB Rachaad White
228 OT Kellen Diesch
249 OT Dare Rosenthal
258 WR Deven Thompkins

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PackEyedOptimist's picture

April 12, 2022 at 08:05 am

I think everybody better get ready for BG to take players that don't match the many draftnik boards/magazines. Since this draft has widely varying opinions, I think it will be one where many GMs will be afraid to lose their crushes. BG has already done that in the past, moving up for players who might easily have dropped to him, picking DeGuara where he did, etc.
I don't have a big problem with that--if he really feels confident in a player, I think it's okay.
That's what makes or breaks a drafting GM.

Myself, I would probably NEVER trade up (except to get a new starting QB). I'd much rather take more swings.

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stockholder's picture

April 12, 2022 at 11:18 am

Everyone keeps on pointing to age and Covid now. I just don't see how they can just throw the test results down the drain for youth. TT wouldn't draft players coming out early. Later yes . . Clark was one of his first.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

April 13, 2022 at 03:52 am

Looking at the Packers draft history, the GM usually takes one player (sometimes two) that I particularly liked. 2011, 2012, and 2015, none of my favorites were selected.

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BirdDogUni's picture

April 12, 2022 at 11:27 am

I think Gutey would actually like this draft...

22: R1 P22 EDGE Jermaine Johnson - Florida State
28: R1 P28 DL Devonte Wyatt - Georgia
53: R2 P21 WR Christian Watson - North Dakota State
59: R2 P27 WR George Pickens - Georgia
92: R3 P28 S JT Woods - Baylor
132: R4 P27 WR Velus Jones - Tennessee
140: R4 P35 LB Troy Andersen - Montana State
171: R5 P28 TE Jake Ferguson - Wisconsin
228: R7 P7 OT Cordell Volson - North Dakota State
249: R7 P28 S Sterling Weatherford - Miami (Ohio)
258: R7 P37 WR Reggie Roberson Jr. - SMU

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

April 13, 2022 at 03:53 am

I listed Weatherford as a safety/LB/special teamer and no one commented.

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BirdDogUni's picture

April 13, 2022 at 02:30 pm

Weatherford is 6' 4"... I've always wanted a guy like that on the backend... ; )

As you know my Dad was our HS Coach, and I thought he was crazy when he took my WR and played him at Free Safety. He had 12 INTs in 8 games. He was 6' 4" 190 LBS (back in 1979-80). He also had 12 TD catches in those 8 games. ; )

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BirdDogUni's picture

April 12, 2022 at 11:53 am

It would be awesome if enough QBs go in the 1st round that JJ & DW fall into Gutey's lap...

22: R1 P22 EDGE Jermaine Johnson - Florida State
28: R1 P28 DL Devonte Wyatt - Georgia
53: R2 P21 WR Alec Pierce - Cincinnati
59: R2 P27 WR George Pickens - Georgia
92: R3 P28 TE Jelani Woods - Virginia
132: R4 P27 LB Channing Tindall - Georgia
140: R4 P35 RB Pierre Strong - SDSU
171: R5 P28 S J.T. Woods - Baylor
228: R7 P7 WR Danny Gray - SMU
249: R7 P28 TE Andrew Ogletree - Youngstown State
258: R7 P37 OT Ryan Van Demark - UConn

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stockholder's picture

April 12, 2022 at 01:23 pm

Mafe will be a better player than Johnson. Mafe just ran a great 3 cone. His measurements are close to Crosby. And Gutey doesn't have to trade up for him.

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LLCHESTY's picture

April 12, 2022 at 03:24 pm

7.24 is hardly a great 3-cone for a pass rusher. Cam Thomas just ran a 6.87 at 265 lbs.

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stockholder's picture

April 12, 2022 at 06:22 pm

Draft them both.

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BirdDogUni's picture

April 12, 2022 at 12:02 pm

First Pick -

Round 1 Pick 22: Jordan Davis, DT, Georgia
Round 1 Pick 28: Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama
Round 2 Pick 22: Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State
Round 2 Pick 28: Logan Hall, DE/OLB, Houston
Round 3 Pick 28: George Pickens, WR, Georgia
Round 4 Pick 28: Leo Chenal, ILB/OLB, Wisconsin
Round 4 Pick 35 (COMP): Bryan Cook, FS/SS, Cincinnati
Round 5 Pick 28: Nick Zakelj, OT, Fordham
Round 7 Pick 7: Pierre Strong Jr., RB, South Dakota State
Round 7 Pick 28: Jeffrey Gunter, DE/OLB, Coastal Carolina
Round 7 Pick 37 (COMP): Kalon Barnes, CB, Baylor

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BirdDogUni's picture

April 12, 2022 at 12:30 pm

On NFL Network they announced that the Carolina Panthers are bringing in all the top QBs in for visits. The Panthers have the 6th overall pick.

Malik Willis
Kenny Pickett
Matt Corral
Desmond Ridder

I'm sorry, but I watched all these guys at the combine and it reminded me of the year Christian Ponder came out.

IDK if Carolina Panthers have even considered trading for Love, but I think Love is better than any of the guys listed above, in fact I don't think it is even close.

I'm not suggesting the Panthers should trade the 6th overall pick for Love, but I do think if they did, Love would be better than any of the other QBs they could draft this year, period.

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 12, 2022 at 05:06 pm

Le Mock: PFN

#17 Olave WR ( #22 & 59 to Charger) Best route runner of the group. 4.38.
#28 Brisker S Star guy, Three safety looks.Playmaker 4.45.
#53 Pierce WR Comes down with the catch, reads the zones. 4.41
#62 Lucas OT Put him @ the RT spot, can go on both sides. 4.92. ( #132, 2023 2nd to KC)
#92 A.Taylor CB The #four guy @ Dime and can play perimeter. 4.36
#140 Gunter Edge Can hold point and attack QBs. 4.47
#171 Bellinger TE Big frame and big mitts at 10-1/8. 4.62
#183 Haskins RB Power back for tundra time. 27 reps 4.8
#258 T. Carpenter LB Move to LB 6-3 and 233# 4.47

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BirdDogUni's picture

April 12, 2022 at 05:52 pm

I like it, except for the move up. No way I trade up for Olave, but that is just me.

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 12, 2022 at 07:12 pm

The other two are off the board by #12 and he's right behind them. Need to move Up to bag him. Not interested in projects, need playmakers that can Score.

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BirdDogUni's picture

April 12, 2022 at 07:58 pm

Will be fun to find out.

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 12, 2022 at 08:59 pm

There will be quite a few deals between the one and 20 picks. PFN trades come to me on #28. Ideal for more O line help, but Cole van Lanen may be the guard.

#22 Olave WR
#46 Winfrey DE/DT #28 to Buff for the #46 and 57
#53 Lucas OT Put him at the RT spot and walk away.
#57 Skyy WR/KR
#59 Sanders Edge
#92 Taylor CB
#132 Kolar TE
#140 McFadden LB
#171 Krull TE
#198 Goedeke OG #228 and 2023 5th to JAguars
#249 Blount S
#258 Chance Campbell LB.

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LambeauPlain's picture

April 12, 2022 at 12:53 pm

There are 4 Safeties in the draft that are very versatile, performance off the charts and team leaders.

Listed according to Draft Buzz rating:

1. Brisker, PSU. Can play FS or SS. 6'1" 203 and a 4.49 forty. While Hamilton, Notre Dame is rated as a top 5 overall pick at S, many say Brisker will likely end up being the best NFL Safety in this draft. Fire-breathing tackler who rarely misses on pass D. Plays like a coach on the field and will likely go in round 1. Had a QB rating of 51, 60, 47 freshman through junior seasons. Makes QBs crazy. Would he be worth it at #28, even #22? Perhaps. Brisker would play a lot as the 3rd S Barry often has on the field and back up both Savage and Amos. 2 position for one pick.

2. Dax Hill, Michigan. Can play both S and CB. Speed demon and athletic freak. Good size and knows how to use it. CB frame but tackles like a S and treats every ball thrown his way like it is his to catch. His combine results probably pushed him up into the 1st round. With Hill you get a S or a CB. Another 2 for one pick.

3. Jalen Pitre, Baylor. Another 6 ft, 200 lbs 4.4 forty prospect. Played all over the field for Dave Aranda, the Defensive genius. But he was so darn athletic, Aranda had him play "star" in his 3-4 D. Offers a high level of versatility for Barry - on any play, in addition to S, he can be used as a linebacker, a pass rusher, a slot safety, or a corner. 5 positions for the price of one. Very intelligent and a team leader. Likely will last to #53, even #59.

4. Lewis Cine, Georgia. Yep, the leader on the best D in college football. 6'1", 200 lbs, 4.37 forty. Great in deep coverage but can also play SS, in the box, and as a hybrid. He has the frame to add good weight and even play ILB long term...so good in the box and tracks the ball and tackles better than anyone on that Dog D. 4 positions for 1 pick. Will also last into the 2nd rd.

My choice would be Pitre in the 2nd and get the WR and OT in the first. Plus he played for Aranda in the star, spelling Alexander when follows his guy to the boundary.

While Brisker is the stud, any of the other 3 would contribute for the Packers all season long. Any of the 4 would make Barry beam! Any could be the next St. Nick Collins.

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stockholder's picture

April 12, 2022 at 01:06 pm

Wouldn't take any. We need a edge player before safety.

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Leatherhead's picture

April 12, 2022 at 03:16 pm

I think it was Coldworld who said something to the effect of "it makes no sense to bring Rodgers back this year if he doesn't have anybody to throw to."

I can't shoot a hole in that. So to me, that means THE PLAN has to be to substantially enhance/revamp our passing game. Not only did we lose Adams, for which we were well-compensated, we lost MVS, we lost Equanimeous. That's like 3 of our top 6 right there, and they're going to have to be replaced. We all know that.

Additionally, the TE unit isn't that blessed in the receiving department. I like TEs who get guys blocked and I think LaFleur does too. In fact, I think the secret to LaFleur's offense is that including Lewis and Lazard, we can put seven pretty good blockers out there, and we do. I think that'll be a big(ger) consideration than their receiving skills, although you'd hope those would develop. Currently, Lewis is our starter, then Deguara, then guys like Daffney. Tonyan is hurt for a while.

We ALSO have lost Patrick and Turner, two starters from last year on the offensive line. Jenkins is hurt. Bakhtiari has been off for a long time. Myers missed most of last season. Newsome and Nijman took a lot of snaps for us and played well. But when these guys get hurt, we're going to be starting somebody else, and I'd prefer that to be a Day 2 rookie OL.

So thats 3 picks, plus another pick or two at TE, and then a lineman or two. That's pretty much our first four rounds.

And that's why I'm not really looking very hard at defensive guys anymore. It makes no sense to bring Rodgers back and not do what you can to put an offense around him, and as you can see, we could easily put 8 new offensive players....rookies.....on the Gameday roster.

Also, I do find it curious that our season ended in a game where our defense didn't give up a TD, and we're bringing everybody back, but somehow we think augmenting the defense should take some kind of priority. I love good defense, and I hated it when various entities slammed the Packers D, because for the last three years....it's been better than average, and it wasn't the reason our season ended.

I like these guys like Jermaine Johnson, and Pitre, etc., but I think "All-in" should include putting the best group of blockers and skill position guys around Rodgers that we can. And that's going to require we pass on some pretty good defenders.

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stockholder's picture

April 12, 2022 at 08:47 pm

Kiper says Wilson is Adams. If he is let's get him first. According to the PFF Simulator. #22 & # 59 gets the #13 pick and Wilson

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 13, 2022 at 12:27 pm

He will not last that long. He may go @ #8 or to the Jets at #10. The Jets were looking for the Metcalf trade, but no dice from Schneider. Get in and out of breaks fast. There is no longer the bump and run much less press cover. The guys with fast feet emulate Jerry Rice and Adams. They go to their football skills camps. Another guy that works like Adams is Doubs from Nevada.

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BirdDogUni's picture

April 12, 2022 at 06:04 pm

Traded down from 22 to 24 and added a 3rd and 4th round picks. Dallas took the Center out of Iowa with the 22nd pick and I still got Jameson Williams at 24.

Round 1 Pick 24 (DAL): Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama
Round 1 Pick 28: Devin Lloyd, ILB/OLB, Utah
Round 2 Pick 22: Devonte Wyatt, DT, Georgia
Round 2 Pick 28: Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State
Round 3 Pick 24 (DAL): Amare Barno, DE/OLB, Virginia Tech
Round 3 Pick 28: Jalen Pitre, FS/SS, Baylor
Round 4 Pick 24 (DAL): Khalil Shakir, WR, Boise State
Round 4 Pick 28: Zion Nelson, OT, Miami
Round 4 Pick 35 (COMP): Leo Chenal, ILB/OLB, Wisconsin
Round 5 Pick 28: Nick Zakelj, OT, Fordham
Round 7 Pick 7: Pierre Strong Jr., RB, South Dakota State
Round 7 Pick 28: Grant Calcaterra, TE, SMU
Round 7 Pick 37 (COMP): Tyquan Thornton, WR, Baylor

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BirdDogUni's picture

April 12, 2022 at 06:56 pm

PFN - Don't know how Travon Walker fell to 22, but I won't complain.

22. Travon Walker EDGE Georgia 6' 5" 272# RAS: 9.99
28. Chris Olave WR Ohio State 6' 0" 187# RAS: 8.67 (4.39 40 time)
53. Devonte Wyatt DT Georgia 6' 3" 304# RAS: 9.58
59. Alec Pierce WR Cincinnati 6' 3" 213# RAS: 9.82 (4.41 40 time)
92. Jelani Woods TE Virginia 6' 7" 257# RAS: 10 (4.61 40 time) NFL.com has him at 275 LBS, but I think it's probably 257#. ; )
132. Zach Tom OT Wake Forest 6' 4" 304# RAS: 9.59
140. Pierre Strong Jr. RB South Dakota State 5' 11" 202# RAS: 9.34 (4.37 40 time) He can fly. Aaron Jones ran a 4.56 40.
171. Danny Gray WR SMU 6' 0" 186# RAS: 6.77 (4.33 40 time)
228. Velus Jones Jr. WR Tennessee 6' 0" 200# RAS: 7.14 (4.31 40 time)
249. Esezi Otomewo EDGE Minnesota 6' 5" 282# RAS: Not Available
258. Tariq Carpenter S Georgia Tech 6' 2" 230# RAS: 8.91

If you didn't notice, SPEED was the focus of this draft. MaLF says we need more SPEED. I just gave it to him. ; P

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stockholder's picture

April 12, 2022 at 08:26 pm

I really think we're getting the business now. The Draft business. Gutey likes young players. More than 5 year contracts. Age shouldn't have anything to do with this. Watson's Combine numbers are exceptional. He was voted " best WR" at the senior Bowl.(. We need some one to replace MVS.) And Watson has No glaring Question marks. Yet, I'm drawn to the King vs Watt scenario. If we don't stretch the field, we're not helping anyone on this team. The defense hasn't lost anyone. And Gutey has replaced Ke Ke. Yet somebody thinks we need to draft a DL. A guy at safety. A ILB. And truthfully another edge. Why do we need a OL.? We know Bahk and Jenkins will return. Patrick was a cut. St Brown was a cut. And Turner became a part timer.( A cut/ cost move. ) So why can't we just replace Adams and MVS first? We're falling in Love with what we don't need. The need is WR. And I suggest faster LBs can replace anyone. Arn't they the heart of the defense? If you don't like Chenal your a fool. And if you can't find a LB in this draft your an idiot. So lets not be stupid and fall for a simulator draft. Fix what we need first.

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gsd3's picture

April 13, 2022 at 04:38 am

From PFN

22) Burks WR
28) Mafe Edge
53) Jones DT
59) Tolbert WR
92) Jones CB/PR/KR
132) Tom OL
140) Woods TE
171) Anderson S
228) Horvath RB
249) Weston WR
258) Thomas S

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BirdDogUni's picture

April 13, 2022 at 08:45 am

PFN -

22. Devin Lloyd LB Utah
28. Lewis Cine S Georgia
53. Boye Mafe EDGE Minnesota
59. Alec Pierce WR Cincinnati
92. Jelani Woods TE Virginia
132. Dameon Pierce RB Florida
140. Zach Tom OT Wake Forest
171. Eyioma Uwazurike DT Iowa State
228. Thomas Booker DT Stanford
249. Nick Zakelj OG Fordham
258. Velus Jones Jr. WR Tennessee

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BirdDogUni's picture

April 13, 2022 at 08:52 am

22: R1 P22 DL DeVonte Wyatt - Georgia
28: R1 P28 WR Christian Watson - NDSU
53: R2 P21 WR Jahan Dotson - Penn State
59: R2 P27 WR Alec Pierce - Cincinnati
92: R3 P28 RB Pierre Strong Jr. - South Dakota State
132: R4 P27 TE Cole Turner - Nevada
140: R4 P35 OT Zach Tom - Wake Forest
171: R5 P28 S Sterling Weatherford - Miami (OH)
228: R7 P7 WR Danny Gray - SMU
249: R7 P28 LB Aaron Hansford - Texas A&M
258: R7 P37 S JT Woods - Baylor

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BirdDogUni's picture

April 13, 2022 at 09:06 am

22: R1 P22 DL Jordan Davis - Georgia
28: R1 P28 EDGE Jermaine Johnson II - FSU
53: R2 P21 LB Brandon Smith - Penn St.
59: R2 P27 WR Christian Watson - N. Dakota St.
92: R3 P28 WR Danny Gray - SMU
132: R4 P27 RB Breece Hall - Iowa St.
140: R4 P35 WR Velus Jones Jr. - Tennessee
171: R5 P28 OT Thayer Munford - Ohio St.
228: R7 P7 S Nick Grant - Virginia
249: R7 P28 OT Braxton Jones - Southern Utah
258: R7 P37 DL Neil Farrell Jr. - LSU

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BirdDogUni's picture

April 13, 2022 at 09:40 am

22. Derek Stingley Jr. CB LSU
28. Devonte Wyatt DT Georgia
53. Boye Mafe EDGE Minnesota
59. Alec Pierce WR Cincinnati
92. Brandon Smith LB Penn State
132. JT Woods S Baylor
140. Tyquan Thornton WR Baylor
171. Max Mitchell OT Louisiana
228. Velus Jones Jr. WR Tennessee
249. Reggie Roberson WR SMU
258. Tariq Carpenter S Georgia Tech

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stockholder's picture

April 13, 2022 at 11:53 am

PFN With trade
.#22. Trade
#23. Treylon Burks. WR Arkansas. Trade
#28. Christian Watson. WR. N.D. State
#53. Travis Jones. DT. Conn
#59. Trey McBride. TE. Col. St.
#92. James Cook RB Georgia
#113. Khalil Shakir. WR Boise. Trade
#132. Darrian Beavers. LB. Cinn
#140. Tom Zach. OT WF
#171. Matt Araiza. P. SD
228. Mike Rose. LB. IOWA St.
#249. Velus Jones Jr. WR Tenn.
#258 Trade

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 13, 2022 at 12:49 pm

Though the order may be slightly different than some have it, there are few surprises. Teams I spoke with have the receivers ranked Garrett Wilson, Drake London, Chris Olave, Jameson Williams, Jahan Dotson, and Treylon Burks. Williams is slightly downgraded because of the late knee injury. Burks is getting late-first-round grades.

While he’s been mocked in the top 32 by some, no team I’ve spoken with has given Christian Watson of North Dakota State a first-round grade. Most believe he belongs in the middle of Round 2. Some teams have Skyy Moore of Western Michigan graded higher than Watson.

Who holds the top spot at the tight end position?

Trey McBride and Greg Dulcich are neck and neck on my board for the top spot at tight end. But it’s not so much with teams who have a big spread between their No. 1, McBride, and Dulcich, who ranks as the third tight end on a few boards.

The player between the two is Jelani Woods of Virginia, who has had a hell of a lead-up to the draft. Teams do admit that Woods is a projection based on his athletic testing numbers. Comparatively, McBride and Dulcich are sure things.----Tony Pauline.

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stockholder's picture

April 13, 2022 at 01:10 pm

Most mocks of late, say he's gone before 20. Its pre draft hype. If Reagor is such a bust. I wouldn't want anyone under 6'2 now. I believe Burks will go to the Patriots. And McShay has Watson to the chiefs. The drop is because he's going to be 25. We need 5 years from any WR. The Money for a WR is ridicules. So I'd take him. He won't bust and his speed will be gone in 5 years anyway. I'm a Big McBride Fan. He can catch. If they miss him, I wouldn't draft any TE. The RB pick has the best hands in the draft. He's played WR.

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 13, 2022 at 01:49 pm

I agree with two from the first if possible. Hedge.

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 13, 2022 at 02:01 pm

#22 Olave WR
#37 Ebiketie Edge ( fromTexans 28 and 171 for 37 and 108)
#53 Pierce WR
#55 McBride TE
#92 Petit-Frere OT
#108 Taylor CB
#132 Walker OT
#153 Sanborn LB ( from Seattle for 249 and a 4th comp pick in '23)
#175 Krull TE
#258 Andries OG

Reload line depth. Took Edge over DT early. Pierce is the Jordy guy, a gunner and still bagged McBride who will probably go higher. Taylor is the Dime guy and the other gunner. They have Slaton for the inside. I would prefer to go DE/ five tech guy like winfrey but he was off the board at #27.

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BirdDogUni's picture

April 13, 2022 at 02:52 pm

I hope Devonte Wyatt wasn't available when you drafted Olave? ; )

I'm hoping Olave and London go before 22 so I don't have to hear how Gutey should've taken them...

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greengold's picture

April 13, 2022 at 03:08 pm

Have you compared Devonte Wyatt’s stats with any of the others? Hmmm. I was all in…??? Not anymore.

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 13, 2022 at 05:26 pm

DTs do not score TDs. They brought in Reed. Wyatt may be the #28? Last time I looked, the wide receiver room had Lazard in one chair and Cobb in the other.
Taylor is a good sp. teamer and can run a slant. Winfrey has some skills,but....they need three more who can play.

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BirdDogUni's picture

April 13, 2022 at 08:01 pm

Nothing personal. I do like Olave. I think he might have the highest floor of any of the WRs. I don't think he has the highest ceiling, but I think he might be a great #2 WR. He may even qualify as a #1. IDK. If Gutey drafts him at 22, it would surprise me. It wouldn't surprise me if Gutey drafted Treylon Burks at #22, because I think they'd use him in the Deebo Samuel role in the Shanahan/McVay/MaLF offense...

Guess only time will tell. I sorta hope Olave goes to the Saints or someone before Gutey has a chance to take him.

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stockholder's picture

April 13, 2022 at 07:17 pm

Pierce is from Chicago. And he grew up a Packer fan. Roto-world has a terrific interview with him.

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BirdDogUni's picture

April 13, 2022 at 08:55 pm

That was a great interview, despite Chris Simms... ; )

1. Great Kid

2. I think his original 4.33 time at the combine was accurate. (They said the official time was 4.41, but I watched him run and when the electronic clock said 4.33 I wasn't surprised.)

3. He's a Packer Fan which means Gutey has to draft him. ; )

4. His mom and dad both attended Northwestern, so you know Mark Murphy is creaming his jeans about now.

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BirdDogUni's picture

April 13, 2022 at 06:00 pm

22. Devin Lloyd LB Utah
28. Chris Olave WR Ohio State
53. Boye Mafe EDGE Minnesota
59. Alec Pierce WR Cincinnati
92. Justyn Ross WR Clemson
132. Austin Allen TE Nebraska
140. Zach Tom OT Wake Forest
171. Pierre Strong Jr. RB South Dakota State
228. Bo Melton WR Rutgers
249. Thomas Booker DT Stanford
258. Jeremiah Moon LB Florida

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PackEyedOptimist's picture

April 13, 2022 at 07:07 pm

Yeesh. I like Lloyd, Tom, and Melton. The rest...shivers... :-D
Olave too light?
Mafe too light?
Pierce too stiff?
Ross too slow?

Maybe they will all be great... and honestly, at 53, 59 they aren't terrible (but I'd pick Melton before I'd pick Ross)

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stockholder's picture

April 13, 2022 at 07:12 pm

It won't matter who they draft. They'll be great if they get the right press.

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PackEyedOptimist's picture

April 13, 2022 at 08:38 pm

Thought I'd join in with one with two trades:
28 Daxton Hill S
33 Bernard Raimann LOT
53 Leo Chenal LB/ED
59 Alec Pierce WR
70 Khalil Shakir WR
83 Jelani Woods TE
171 Chigoziem Okonkwo TE
180 Andrew Stueber ROT
228 Matt Araiza P
237 Dontario Drummond WR
249 Cole Kelley QB
258 Nick Ford C
Pierce, Shakir, and Drummond all have real potential at WR
Woods and Okonkwo put two great athletes in the TE mix
Raimann, Stueber, and Ford really finish off the OL room
Hill and Chenal don't provide many bodies to the defense, but maybe a lot of impact anyway.
Araiza and Kelley because why not add competition?

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