Let's Talk Football: Picking up pieces after a disastrous loss

Aaron and Andy discuss the loss of Tucker Kraft, take aim at the growing kicker controversy with Brandon McManus, Matt LaFleur’s red-zone decision making, and the defense’s struggles to get off the field against the Panthers.

 

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Grand Mooster J's picture

November 03, 2025 at 04:36 pm

Special Teams, clock management and overall discipline are recurring problems for the Packers. There's no absolving Monsieur LaFleur in that. However, Mr Rich Bisaccia ST maven and assistant head coach, is also responsible.

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Idaho Cheese's picture

November 03, 2025 at 04:50 pm

100% agree with your comment. No accountability and no responsibility= same problems recurring game after game, year after year. There will never be a solution when you cannot identify the problem.

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NJmike15's picture

November 03, 2025 at 05:14 pm

Totally agree. It is always someone else's fault. I don't care for Kansas City, but at least they have a head coach who said that the loss to Buffalo was on him. Should have kept Andy Reid years ago when he was the GB quarter backs coach. I hope the new GB president gets rid of LaFleur or at least makes him give up play calling. And don't even get me started as to what a dumpster fire Bisaccia and his kickers are.

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Idaho Cheese's picture

November 03, 2025 at 04:37 pm

I wonder what MLF's PFF grade would be week to week? Should we create this metric? It certainly seems from his presser that he doesn't feel any responsibility for the losses, chalking up instead to players not making the "fundamental" plays; what isn't said, or understood, is that this is what coaching is for. We are losing games because of presnap penalties, poor tackling, and "Special Teams", ec? How many years do these chronic problems continue to cost us game before the management and coaches make an effort to change this? Acting as if you are not part of the problem ensures the solution will never be realized.

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Snap the ball's picture

November 03, 2025 at 04:51 pm

Next man up Luke was drafted for a reason time to find out what he’s all about.

Reed and Wicks should be back soon and will help

More opportunities for receivers

Someone should be able to catch the ball and run.

Pre snap penalties at home unbelievable.

Lost 2 games never should have and barely beat cardinals and bengals

Haven’t play good ball since 1st game

Commanders game the guy missed two fields. Which helped to win.

Put the 5 best line on the field at this point I don’t care how much money they are making …the best ones

Why don’t we bring in extra linemen. We did it back in Ahman days

Others teams do it.

Give love some time

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Packerpasty's picture

November 03, 2025 at 05:12 pm

more opportunities for WRs only if Love learns to go through his progressions...often guys are wide open while he only looks for one guy, usually Dobbs or Kraft and he's done for the year...Love is too skittish ....

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Aldo's picture

November 03, 2025 at 05:20 pm

Couldn't agree more. A person gets the feeling he doesn't see the entire fileld way too often. Still not a huge fan of Love....obviously.

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LambeauPlain's picture

November 03, 2025 at 06:35 pm

How often does the OL give him time to see much of anything in less than 3 seconds?

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Since'75's picture

November 04, 2025 at 06:42 am

Before this season, i thought the O-line looked pretty damn good.

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Packerpasty's picture

November 04, 2025 at 10:29 am

I did too they should be better...obviously not a great O line coach on the Packers..

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retirerodgets's picture

November 03, 2025 at 05:35 pm

What they need is a complement to Jacobs,who has speed.

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TKWorldWide's picture

November 03, 2025 at 08:18 pm

Lloyd?

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Joster11's picture

November 04, 2025 at 01:54 pm

Is he still on the team?

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NFLfan's picture

November 03, 2025 at 06:04 pm

The O-Line cannot run block therefore there is no run game.
Jordan L is under pressure too much to read the field. I remember Bahktiari giving Rodgers all day to go through his progressions.

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Snap the ball's picture

November 03, 2025 at 06:13 pm

Bring in extra linemen then

Bring in extra running back

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Snap the ball's picture

November 03, 2025 at 06:16 pm

Love is good just needs to see the field more .

I don’t want him to be a Carson Wentz. One look and throw .

Play action. Roll out a bit more.

Some routes inside to outside

Some drag routes

Get to the red zone and score Don’t dilly talley around

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Starrbrite's picture

November 03, 2025 at 10:01 pm

Some rollouts would be helpful.

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buddrow53's picture

November 03, 2025 at 07:22 pm

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=warren+sharp+on+pack+a+day+...

Andy Herman with Warren Sharp on Pack a Day.

Warren discussing play calls, going on 4th down,field goal or td.

Warren is legit. No dog in the fight .

enjoy a must watch, thank me later.

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Snap the ball's picture

November 03, 2025 at 07:36 pm

Musgrave will get it done

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TKWorldWide's picture

November 03, 2025 at 07:58 pm

I really would have preferred the Packers to defeat the Panthers, and soundly, at that.
Now I’m disappointed.

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TKWorldWide's picture

November 03, 2025 at 08:19 pm

I like winning because it’s like better than losing.

So, no Bull Durham fans out there?

Now I’m disappointed for a second time.

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Major Snafu's picture

November 03, 2025 at 08:21 pm

1. First pack fans the Panthers are a decent team with a very good d. They aren't patsies and easy wins
2. Love is trying to imitate Rodgers, get a go to receiver Aka Dobbs and pass to him when pass rush is coming. The problem other receivers are working hard and being ignored.
Love just wants to unload the ball and not make plays.
3. Defence for the fifth or 9th year, can't get three and outs to save their ass.
4. This is not playoff bound team.

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TKWorldWide's picture

November 04, 2025 at 07:10 am

So if GB is not a playoff bound team, and they are not very good, why do so many fans get so upset after a loss?

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Packerpasty's picture

November 04, 2025 at 10:40 am

maybe its because we are tired of losing to lesser teams every year especially at Lambeau...and how about last seasons wonderful record against the division opponents??

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TKWorldWide's picture

November 04, 2025 at 03:46 pm

But what constitutes a “lesser” team?

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Leatherhead's picture

November 04, 2025 at 05:28 pm

I'm going to chalk it up to Math Deniers. They truly expect the Packers should never lose, and that every loss has apocalyptic overtones.

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Leatherhead's picture

November 04, 2025 at 11:01 am

"Musgrave, you're up. Do it just like you've been practicing for 2 1/2 years."

We need more from everybody else. We're making too many mistakes and it cost us last week.

Other than that, I think it won't change much. We had some long drives last week that didn't get into the endzone and if that gets fixed, I think we're still in business. I think we'll miss Kraft's blocking in the run game, but we can adjust for that.

In the passing game, we just lost our top receiver. Somebody is going to have to step it up.

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