Jordan Love Showing His First-Round Pedigree in Pre-season

Love has taken significant strides in his development this summer.

In Green Bay, WI, pre-season is Jordan Love season, with much of the focus and discussion centering on the development of the former first-round pick. While his stat line may not show it, Love has taken significant strides this August.

Love’s progress has been slow during his first two years in the NFL, but it’s important to remember he has only been afforded one traditional off-season and pre-season prior to this year, due to the pandemic interrupting his rookie season.

During Love’s first pre-season action a year ago, he was clearly thinking out on the field, and generally didn’t look comfortable. The first priority for him versus the 49ers was to show confidence and let it rip, then clean up any resulting mistakes in subsequent games.

In that game, Love was far from perfect, looking somewhat understandably rusty. He threw some passes he shouldn’t have and missed some layups, but he also moved the offense efficiently for the most part, made a few excellent throws and most importantly, trusted himself to let the ball go.

On Friday night at Lambeau Field, he took the next step. Love was more polished, made far fewer mistakes and delivered more ‘wow’ passes.

Two incompletions were among his most impressive throws: A nearly miraculous touchdown to Patrick Taylor after scrambling to buy time, and a perfect side-line toss which Samori Toure couldn’t haul in.

His detractors will say: “It’s the pre-season, he’s playing against backups”, but he’s also playing with backups. Love’s receivers have done him few favors, frequently dropping passes or even turning them into interceptions.

Love was a first-round pick for a reason, and this pre-season, the young quarterback has shown why: His tools. He can make every single throw; the ones Aaron Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes can make, and that’s a rare talent.

What Love really needs now is to play consistently in games that matter, make mistakes and learn on the job. Unfortunately for him, he isn’t going to get that chance in Green Bay this year.

But if Aaron Rodgers was to retire after 2022, which is still very much on the table, Love has displayed enough talent and progress to encourage the Packers to hand him the reins for a season while they properly evaluate whether or not he is ‘the guy’ and worthy of a contract extension.

Conversely, if Rodgers is still in Green Bay a year from now, and Love continues to play well during his limited opportunities in the pre-season, the Packers may be able to trade him and recoup some capital for their former first-rounder.

 

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

August 21, 2022 at 12:13 pm

Everyone has their own opinion but I fully expect Love to progress and improve for quite a few years now with him only be 23-years old. I mean five years from now at 28-years old there probably is still some development in reading defenses. What would be the benefit of trading Jordan Love let's say next year to recoup 'some' draft choices? Then the Packers will not have a back-up QB to Rodgers and we all know Rodgers is likely gone within 2-years. Why trade Love for less compensation than what we used to select him (1st & 4th rounder)? We will have invested 3 years into him to develop. Why then turn around and use another 1st round draft choice (quality talent may not be there that particular year and when drafting) and then have to go through the growing pains of developing? The team Gutey has put together is talented and will continue to be talented and competing for a SB when Rodgers hangs it up. We do not need to start over at QB with a talented team. Makes absolutely zero sense to get rid of Jordan Love next year if we keep seeing the development taking place we are seeing. 5th year option....do it! $20,000,000 do it! Read above!

Jordan Love appears to be the GBP's future at QB (only game experience during regular season will truly tell us), so by the time Rodgers is done Love will most likely only be 24 - 26 years old. Keep him and let's encourage and support him!

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13TimeChamps's picture

August 21, 2022 at 03:42 pm

Great post!

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Turophile's picture

August 21, 2022 at 05:46 pm

I don't know yet if Love will continue evolving to the point that he is an upper-level starting QB (ie somewhere in the top half).

I'm not ruling his success out, but he could still fall short of that level. I'm still on the fence, watching as so many others have already jumped off it, to one side or the other.

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GregC's picture

August 21, 2022 at 06:02 pm

"What would be the benefit of trading Jordan Love let's say next year to recoup 'some' draft choices?"

I think the author's assumption is that if Love is playing well but Aaron Rodgers stays, Love won't want to sign a contract extension to be Rodgers' backup. In that scenario, it would be better to trade him than let him play out his contract and go somewhere else, with the Packers getting only minimal compensation for losing him as a free agent.

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 21, 2022 at 06:24 pm

Exactly. There's no way the give him a $20 million option unless Rodgers retires after this season and there's nothing to say he won't want to go elsewhere if they don't. They would get some kind of a comp pick in 2025 for him but would it be a 3rd?

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stockholder's picture

August 21, 2022 at 07:09 pm

They still have to come up with near 4 mil. Next year. If you compare his stats, to other back-ups.
He isn't that good. He's improved. Because there is no other place to go but up. Gutey cleared out all the competition.

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Oppy's picture

August 21, 2022 at 11:18 pm

Yes, of course, the GM made it his goal to avoid having competition.

Tim Boyle, Kurt Benkert, and now Danny Etling: All supposedly greater talents that have been suppressed to save face from the supposed " Jordan Love mistake".

Sure, just like the Rodgers draft mistake, the Davante Adams draft mistake, and the Rashan Gary draft mistake.

You people are wack-a-doodle crazy.

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

August 22, 2022 at 01:58 pm

They wont have to. They can decline the 5th year option and give him a backloaded longterm extension. Or the Packers could trade Rodgers after this season and just give Love the 5th year option. Either way, theyre not getting rid of him. Especially not now that he appears to be turning the corner.

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BirdDogUni's picture

August 22, 2022 at 10:16 pm

IIRC, 3rd round Comp Pick is as high as they go...

Got your email, but that contact site didn't allow me to respond or see your email address. If you go to my Southern Hills Kennel web site, you can email me from there. (Just FYI...)

Let's see how the season goes before we decide on speculation of Rodgers and Love's futures. So many things could happen to decide both players fate.

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Coldworld's picture

August 21, 2022 at 07:03 pm

For those of us who have watched QBs develop for a long time, this is how it looks. In season or in preseason, it’s just a question of pressure and how condensed the process is.

You might be a bit more bullish than me, but I do like what I’m seeing as a sign we aren’t nearly at his peak. The problem is we can’t know if he will reach it until he’s close enough to already be a good starter and I think he’s got a little more climbing to get to the point where the team will see him as a viable long term starter.

This really does remind me a lot of Rodgers in his second camp (Sorry Dobber, but it does). I don’t see Live getting his option picked up just because of cap reality unless Rodgers retires (I. Which case they will start him and take his option). But, if Love looks as good as Rodgers did in camp next year I think he’s signed to a long term deal. As you say, you don’t let a 10 to 15 year starter prospect leave, not even for a 40 year old Rodgers. No team will do that.

If he’s less favorably viewed then next year is when he’s traded and we get another backup for Rodgers in the draft or FA, but likely a cheap one. Maybe Etling if he’s still around.

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stockholder's picture

August 21, 2022 at 07:14 pm

I'd trade him for a TE in a heart beat.

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croatpackfan's picture

August 22, 2022 at 02:40 am

That is why I thanks God you have no influence on Packers football operation. Despite you are, by your words, "owner", or better to say one of the lot of other "owners". But, you know, the fact you have stocks means nothing. All stockholders are not by any mean always clever people, stocks can be bought by really stupid people, you know.

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mbpacker's picture

August 21, 2022 at 12:38 pm

It can't be over emphasized how the Covid pandemic has set Love back. To be fair, he is a year behind in his development Also, didn't he get injured or sick and miss some time his second year? There is nothing like game experience which has been already noted. He is still a young buck but is showing some signs in the right direction. If I were Gute I would do everything to keep Tom Clements in the fold even when 12 does leave. He is the perfect teacher for Love. I know he came back at Aaron's request but I would keep him around. I have no idea if Love is the answer, but trading him for an uncertain player doesn't make sense. Rodgers could leave at any time and doubtful past 2 years. Besides, Love is an injury away from being the starter. That is how Rodgers got his chance when Farve when down in Georgia, opps no Dallas.

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PatrickGB's picture

August 21, 2022 at 12:47 pm

I agree that good coaching will help Jordan improve. I also believe that an incredible amount of pressure is on him to excel. If ,down the road, he can do well then we can start comparing him to other good quarterbacks. Right now it’s just a hope.

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mbpacker's picture

August 21, 2022 at 05:17 pm

Yes!

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 21, 2022 at 06:21 pm

It really set Burrow and Herbert back too.

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10ve 💚's picture

August 21, 2022 at 07:05 pm

(I'm assuming you meant it sarcastically - because the "experts" rate both Burrow and Herbert high - so I'll reply in that vein)

Both Burrow and Herbert have been the starters of their teams the last 2 years. Both struggled during their first year.

Herbert started off badly. Chargers lost 6 games by the halfway mark, though he improved down the line.

In his second year, Herbert played a bit better, but still only won 9 of 17 games. However, the "expert" still gush all over him!

Burrow played 10 games his first year, and won 2... yest TWO. In this second year, he won 10 of the 16 regular season games he played. However, he did go on to the SB, though he came up short.

Maybe if Jordan Love had played a similar number of games, he may have done as well or better (or maybe worse, who knows) than Burrow and Herbert.

At this point, Love has played only one full game. So we cannot really compare him with others taken in the same draft.

(LLCHESTY, if I mis-read you, sorry)

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AZ's picture

August 21, 2022 at 09:29 pm

Good take and response to the ridiculous take beforehand. Also, Burrow was #1 overall and Herbert was #6 vs Love being #26.

To get there from the original pick #30, the Pack would have given up 4-5 first rounders and more. The comparison of Burrow/Herbert coming out that high vs Love (who was projected by literally EVERY SINGLE EXPERT AS A 2 YEAR PROJECT) is laughable and foolish. These fakes are from people that don’t know football at all. If you think I’m wrong about the 2 year project grade then go back and actually read all of the so-called expert draft analysis on him.

But none of this is surprising. These are all of the same people that were angry when we drafted AJ Dillon but now own his jersey. I’ll see many of you in 4-5 years with a Love jersey on as well and you’ll all deny this. And if you think I’m wrong, remember what you said about Rodgers 5-6 years before you bought his jersey.

Packers fans are both my very favorite and least favorite in the NFL for these very reasons.

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 22, 2022 at 03:00 am

It's three years in, maybe he'll be good maybe he won't but it's past time to stop the excuses. Herbert had a 3 to 1 TD to Int ratio(31/10) a 98 passer rating and also 5 TDs. If QB Winz are your thing knock yourself out but most people think he had one of the best rookie QB seasons ever. The COVID offseason didn't hurt him much.

Before the draft Herbert and Love we're ranked a lot closer to where they were drafted. After the draft many people thought the Chargers reached. He was not expected to go in the top 10.

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Turophile's picture

August 22, 2022 at 05:49 pm

Seems you cannot differentiate between an excuse and a reason.

If there is one sin fans are guilty of, it's making their minds up before enough information is in.

Instead of jumping the gun with Love, just wait until this season is well underway. You'll have a better idea of how good Love is then, especially if he gets regular season action. He IS progressing, it's just a matter of seeing where his ceiling is - is he an average or better starter, or is he likely out of the NFL in another 2-3 years ?

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PatrickGB's picture

August 21, 2022 at 12:40 pm

“consistently” is the key word here. In the last few years, there are about 3-4 first round QB’s who have failed to live up to their draft status. And there are about the same number who have excelled. A few years from now we will see if Jordan Love falls into either category or in neither.

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splitpea1's picture

August 21, 2022 at 12:42 pm

Whoa, let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Although Love had a solid performance vs. NO, we'll need to see it in the next game; if we do, than he can probably counted on to become a capable backup. I don't think he should be mentioned in the same breath as Aaron Rodgers to Patrick Mahomes--at least not yet. He'll have to prove himself in games that count against first-string defenses.

I also don't think the Packers will be interested in trading him unless they are blown away with an offer; then they'll have to go through the whole draft/sign and develop process with another QB.

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PatrickGB's picture

August 21, 2022 at 12:49 pm

Split, I agree about that and if the team were to start all over again with a draft and develop quarterback then this fan will have to undergo therapy.

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mbpacker's picture

August 21, 2022 at 05:19 pm

Good points.

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dobber's picture

August 21, 2022 at 05:28 pm

I'll bet he doesn't play a half against the Chiefs. At this point, they have to be thinking about his regular season value. I think it's going to be mostly Etling's show this week.

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HawkPacker's picture

August 21, 2022 at 06:40 pm

I sure hope not. I would like to see Rodgers play a couple of series against the Chiefs based on the slow start of the season the last few years, especially last year. Then I would like to still see Love into the fourth quarter with Etling finishing up.

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splitpea1's picture

August 21, 2022 at 07:52 pm

Rodgers has said previously that he doesn't think it helps him to play for such a brief amount of time. So then the question becomes, how long do you want to see him out there for, especially if the coaching staff is still experimenting with the OL?

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Coldworld's picture

August 21, 2022 at 07:10 pm

I’m not sure. That’s common place, but part of me thinks that the first game was Etling’s test and that Love will play well into this one with more of the likely roster players. It depends on how much of the roster is decided. If they still want battles at multiple spots but only for the true back end and PS then that’s Etling.

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HarryHodag's picture

August 21, 2022 at 12:59 pm

Love is competing for the back up job at this stage and nothing more. With that said, he clearly shows he's fully capable of running the offense in the absence of Aaron Rodgers. The majority of folks think he has to be Aaron Rodgers right now but he really doesn't.

Trevor Lawrence(a top draft pick) showed he wasn't HOF material after being thrown into the fire last year by Jacksonville. He will be good, but he will learn under fire. The Packers approach is to develop the talent over time and we all see it's paying off.

This will be a year-to-year discussion until AR retires. If things stay as now after the 2023 season the team will have to make a decision on Love's contract. Rodgers could play the three years until his guaranteed contract which means Love would have to accept being a backup at least two more years. I think it's possible he will ride out the current contract and entertain offers from Green Bay and other clubs.

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LambeauPlain's picture

August 21, 2022 at 01:12 pm

There is good young talent developing alongside Love's growing NFL skills. JRJ, Meyers, Nijman, Tom, Lazard, Doubs, Watson, Rodgers, Deguara...just on Offense.

The Defense is just as young and talented.

The Packers short term future on the field looks quite good.

Just a note on Tom. I read several negative comments about his Friday play which did not match with my initial impressions. Then I read PFF had him as the highest rated Packer OL...and in two games he has given up no pressures or sacks.

So I watch the Saints game again. IMO, he played well...especially in the run game. It may look like he is getting rag dolled in pass plays due to initial separation. But he doesn't...after an initial punch he takes an aggressive kick step back into a second pass pro stance to engage the defender again...they don't get past him.

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NoNonsense's picture

August 21, 2022 at 01:48 pm

I believe Coldworld said Tom really gets pushed around a lot but I wasn't seeing that. I see a guy who gets his man blocked more often than not and while he may lack functional strength he makes up for it with quick feet and great technique. No pressures allowed and some terrific blocks in the wide zone scheme would seem to indicate he's playing pretty well for a 4th round rookie.

Having said that, we know Royce Newman was PFFs highest rated rookie OL last preseason and then we saw him struggle a good portion of the season as a starter so it's still too early to tell how good or bad he is until the real bullets start flying.

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Coldworld's picture

August 21, 2022 at 02:11 pm

I did and I stand by it. If he’s as good as PFF states, he will be the RT exclusively from now on, with Newman at G. The team will have no reason to doubt him or keep messing with the other players.

I doubt that transpires because I think they will see the wide open lanes to the QB he leaves. Vanilla Ds won’t exploit them. The Vikings will and over and over. That’s why PFF can be misleading.

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PackyCheese500's picture

August 21, 2022 at 03:14 pm

There are a couple of things to note:
I believe ColdWorld said that Tom often gets driven into the backfield. While this is true, he did not allow the QB to be pressured while doing so, and was using his exceptional technique and athleticism to maneuver the defender away from the QB. Of course, there is still room for improvement. Some time in the weight room would probably help him to put on more muscle mass. That being said, he has greatly exceeded expectations for a 4th round rookie. Would I prefer him as the starting RT in week 1? No, but EJ could also play some snaps depending on his recovery status, and I would greatly prefer him to Newman, who is a guard. While there is still room for improvement, Tom has a great foundation, and in a couple of years, has the potential become an exceptional, versatile player in a Jenkins-esque role on the Packers’ OL.

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Coldworld's picture

August 21, 2022 at 03:23 pm

If he can add some mass and power, I agree with the longer term outlook.

Since Bakh is now off the PUP, the chances are that Nijman will soon be the back up or reconverting to RT before long.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 21, 2022 at 02:27 pm

The negativity on Tom….once the cognoscenti have their narrative, its pretty resistant to facts, such as Tom grading out so well. That’s why a guy who has caught 6 passes against third and fourth string guys is being heralded despite having 4 drops and a turnover. It’s why our coverage units get smeared despite ranking in the top 10.

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Coldworld's picture

August 21, 2022 at 03:17 pm

So by that logic you are reconciled to Rodgers being waived unless he’s our returner, based purely on grades as a WR it would seem. Some progress, though your resistance to visible talent remains over Doubs.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 21, 2022 at 03:32 pm

I wouldn’t keep a returner, period. All I want is a catcher who doesn’t turn it over, period.

Rodgers isn’t going to be waived. He’s a Day Two guy on the second year of his contract and he’d have to be pretty bad to be cut at this point. The coaches, and his mentor (Cobb), all think he’s improved. You don’t agree.

Romeo Doubs has caught 6 passes in 12 targets, against second, third, and fourth string defenders. He’s had the ball bounce off of him at least four times, resulting in one turnover. If you want to crown him, crown him. He can get open, obviously, and his TD catch against NO was very good, but he’s a piece that’s more for the future than the present. There’s a reason that very few rookie receivers have big seasons, and there’s a reason he lasted until Day 3.

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 21, 2022 at 06:38 pm

Your stubbornness is hilarious. Rodgers has been very bad and isn't one of the top 6 WRs now, much less when Watson starts playing.

By your way of thinking Jamar Chase shouldn't have played much last year, he had a bunch of drops in the preseason last year. I guess MVS shouldn't have played either.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 21, 2022 at 09:53 pm

😎. I freely confess to stubbornly believing his coaches and teammates as opposed to your alledged acumen.

😎. The organization drafted him out of Clemson last year, whee he led ALL receivers in the conference. Since then, he hasn’t missed any significant time with injury and has not turned the ball over.

😎. Cutting a Day Two draft pick after one season where he only got 8 targets would be a rare occurrence. It’s not something the Packers would do lightly.

😎. Jamar Chase is a different situation, and you shouldn’t comment on my way of thinking since you don’t have a clue. MVS played his rookie year because the players ahead of him were injured and/ or ineffective. Isn’t that what I’ve been saying all along?

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Leatherhead's picture

August 21, 2022 at 10:10 pm

In two preseasons, he has played 5 games and has 13 receptions on 16 targets. In 16 games last season, he was targeted more 8 more times. In 24 targets, he’s never had a drop.

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Coldworld's picture

August 21, 2022 at 11:46 pm

He has had drops. He had one on Friday. Alternative reality.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 22, 2022 at 10:08 am

He has not been credited with a drop. I know the play you're referring to and I'm going to watch and see if I can understand why he wasn't charged with a drop on that.

Still, one drop in all that time versus multiple drops in far less targets?

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 22, 2022 at 03:06 am

🙄How is Jamar Chase a different situation? Are you getting hung up on what round people were drafted again? I guess Rhyan should be over Tom on the depth chart, he was day 2 draft pick.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 22, 2022 at 08:37 am

Jamar Chase was a premium player in the draft, who went to a bad team who specifically drafted him to be a starting WR. You don't see that difference? The Rhyan-Tom thing is another bad analogy, because neither of them was expected to start this year. Just like Doubs wasn't drafted to start. We have Lazard, Cobb, Amari and Winfree from last year. We acquired Watkins in FA. We traded up to get Watson. We didn't draft Doubs on the last day because we needed a starter. Please tell me you understand that.

By your thinking, we should keep Heflin and cut Wyatt, because he's looked better in practice.

And yes, draft position does matter. You have noticed that premium players seem to go earlier in the draft, haven't you? That a second round draft pick is more valuable than a third, or a 4th, or a 7th? It doesn't mean that 7th rounder is no good, it just means your odds are better earlier in the draft.

Look at a draft from 5 years ago. How many of the first 45 are still in the league? The next 45? The next? Do you understand that these professional personnel people, scouts, scrutinize these guys to the nth degree? Do you understand they're smarter and more knowledgeable than you or me?

Doubs was available in the 4th for a reason, and that reason was his questionable catching skills. At some point, no matter how awesome you look, you have to consistently catch the ball.

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NickPerry's picture

August 21, 2022 at 01:17 pm

"it’s important to remember he has only been afforded one traditional off-season and pre-season prior to this year, due to the pandemic interrupting his rookie season."

I don't think we can be reminded of this enough. Yes, Jordan love is IN his 3rd year in the NFL but to count 2020 as his first season with no OTA's, no preseason games, and a limited training camp is unfair. He was also injured in his first preseason game last year so that cost him as well valuable time ON the field.

Personally, I've been okay with what Love has shown this summer. I thought he was much better this week than last week against 49ers. His receivers haven't done him any favors with all the drops either. Hell, if those drops were catches you're looking at a COMPLETELY different stat line. A stat line even the haters would have to acknowledge.

The bottom line is 2020 really cost Love in his development. But he IS improving each week and getting better. I have no idea if he's the next Packers starting QB in a year or two. But I know he's looking better and better each week, Just like a young QB should be doing.

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stockholder's picture

August 21, 2022 at 01:56 pm

I hope they can trade him. Because I wouldn't pay him next year. I think it's great that he showed improvement.
BUT- The writing is on the Wall. And that writing will never go away now.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

August 21, 2022 at 02:09 pm

SH,
Wow..."I think it's great he showed improvement " is quite the change of heart. I think there will be more LOVE coming from you even if reluctantly because Love is going to continue to improve. Yes, he will have some ups and down for awhile but glad you can acknowledge he is improving.

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stockholder's picture

August 21, 2022 at 03:32 pm

The Packers already know what they have in Love. And how controversial he has been. It's too Late.
Rodgers got his extension. And Love didn't show he could be his replacement. Will he? NO!
So no matter how much he improves. The packers must move on from him. The best thing for Love: is to trade him. Get him out of GB. We're use to winning. Love is damaged goods. The constant trade rumors won't stop. Gutey will not risk his neck Again.

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13TimeChamps's picture

August 21, 2022 at 03:53 pm

"Love is damaged goods."

Huh? Please explain.

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stockholder's picture

August 21, 2022 at 04:21 pm

IMAGE. -

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Oppy's picture

August 21, 2022 at 11:28 pm

For the first time ever, I feel that in addition to "thumbs up" and "thumbs down" votes, I wish there was a "laughing at you" emoji.

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

August 22, 2022 at 02:03 pm

In two years or less, Stockholder will own every variation of Love's jersey and have a lifesize poster of him in his closet.

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cdoemel's picture

August 21, 2022 at 02:29 pm

What writing on the wall? That he’s a young QB in the NFL and is learning and improving? Like Rodgers and most other QB’s in the league do? Yeah! Exactly what everyone but the knee jerk haters expected!

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

August 21, 2022 at 02:38 pm

Cd,
As a new poster first want to say welcome and look forward to more of your comments. Secondly, glad we are in agreement! :)

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stockholder's picture

August 21, 2022 at 03:51 pm

Last Line: the Packers may be able to trade him and recoup some capital?? I didn't write it.
Gutey should be fired if he keeps Love. He can't over -pay him. The NFL is about winning.
Love is No Rodgers or Favre. They must find the next Bart Starr. A leader with No excuses.

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Coldworld's picture

August 21, 2022 at 07:28 pm

We haven't found another Bart in half a century. I’m not even sure they still make them. In fact I’m pretty sure Bart will always be paramount.

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Coldworld's picture

August 21, 2022 at 03:13 pm

Next year he’s cheap too.

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stockholder's picture

August 21, 2022 at 03:54 pm

Not when you think of the criticism.

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Coldworld's picture

August 21, 2022 at 04:00 pm

I don’t

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

August 22, 2022 at 02:05 pm

What criticism? The criticism from fans like you who blindly hate him for the horrendous crime of not being a wide receiver? Theyre not getting rid of Love and theyre not firing Gutekunst either.

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k.rock87_SoCalPackerBacker's picture

August 21, 2022 at 10:15 pm

I don't hate Jordan. I am sorry he is not consistent. I was at 4 training camp practices this year and the consistency of his throws were not good. If he over threw a receiver, the next time it was under thrown. His decision making was poor. He did not look poised and in control of his offense., he looked like he was trying way too hard. Often enough, he warranted shaking heads from coaches and Aaron after missed reads or throws.
I also attended 4 practices last year and his improvement was okay from last year. Granted, practice is practice, but me personally, can't see him becoming a franchise QB. I am certainly open to being proven wrong.
Having the best QB there is makes it hard to see any QB we may have in our future be anything other than average. I do hope Aaron stays long enough for the Pack to get a better QB than JL.
Go Pack Go!

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VacavilleBill's picture

August 21, 2022 at 02:30 pm

I think it’s still a bit early to say how good Love can be . All those who talk about wasted first rounders and bust are just looking for clicks.
I will say his demeanor with the press and on the field is impressive for a young man in his position.
With all of the drama around he’s done remarkably well.
On the field he looks like a NFL QB. I think it’s safe to say now that Love will have a long NFL career.
How good he can be? We’ll see but He seems to handle pressure very very well. His work ethic is unquestioned by anyone.
He doesn’t seem to stare down receivers and gets thru his progressions quickly.
We know he can run, seems to have pocket feel and can make great throws. He can miss some easy throws but so does AR.
These are just observations of an old Packer fan.
Right now I’ve seen enough to say Love might be wearing a G on his helmet for a long time.
Gute would be crazy to trade away a kid with so much already invested, and so much potential.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

August 21, 2022 at 02:39 pm

Lance,
As a new poster (your very first) want to say welcome. Look forward to more of your comments. Secondly, glad we are in agreement! :)

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PackyCheese500's picture

August 21, 2022 at 03:16 pm

I think Love has the potential to become the Packers next franchise QB. However, he is not worth 20k next year. The Packers should franchise tag him and sign him to a cheaper deal then that.

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13TimeChamps's picture

August 21, 2022 at 04:01 pm

I'm assuming you meant 20 mil, not 20k.

Regardless, he will still be on his rookie deal next year. It won't be until his 5th year...if they pick up the option...that he would bump up into that 20m range.

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Coldworld's picture

August 21, 2022 at 07:20 pm

Just to put this in perspective, the current lower tag cost for a QB is over 29 million this year and will be higher next. So they aren’t going to tag him. If they decide to keep him they will offer a longer term deal that punts cap forward, something one can’t do with the option or tag.

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Coldworld's picture

August 21, 2022 at 07:20 pm

Duplicate

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canadapacker's picture

August 21, 2022 at 03:26 pm

Now not to dump on Love - but maybe to dump on the headline :"First round Pedigree" - So what does Carolina have a couple of First Round Pedigree's ? Yes Lamar Jackson has a first round Pedigree - but was the 32 overall pick. Sounds like a GP team report. I liked what I saw from Love against San Fran and NO - but he still missed a lot of throws - but AR does miss some throws too. I was more impressed by his runs when under pressure. But he is only a back up and he is only playing against very few starters and he is only playing with our second string receivers. Even AR when he played his first year - was only 6-10 which doesnt tell the whole story - he threw for over 4000 yards. But it was his highest INT year - and maybe it was the result of trying too hard to replace #4 because there are always naysayers - Remember "After Brett Favre was traded to the New York Jets, new starting quarterback Aaron Rodgers became the target of heckling by several disgruntled fans at training camp for the next couple of days.""" - Love needs to improve in many ways - but so far - I will give him this - his demeanor seems to be bang on. I hope the Pack picks up his 5th year option - but to date nobody has indicated how much that is going to cost the team - unlike Trubisky - Love has only played 1 and a half regular season games - Looks like around 19 million ( Danial Jones - was that plus extra for playing lots).

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Coldworld's picture

August 21, 2022 at 07:23 pm

For a guy like Love, none of the play escalators are likely to apply, so it’s the average of the top 25 QBs. A lot lower than the lowest tag, but still a massive increase.

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canadapacker's picture

August 22, 2022 at 08:02 am

""For players selected between 11th and 32nd in the draft, the same calculation is used to compute their salaries. The difference lies in what is averaged; rather than the top ten, the 3rd-25th highest Prior Year Salaries for the player’s position will be used.""" Danial Jones was a 6th - so he had the higher value.

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Lphill's picture

August 21, 2022 at 04:32 pm

I just got the see the game ,Love looked good even with not having all the offensive weapons available, as long as he shows progress and improvement after each performance that’s a step in the right direction.

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dobber's picture

August 21, 2022 at 04:52 pm

I think this is the right way to approach his situation.

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stockholder's picture

August 21, 2022 at 07:31 pm

I have. From Pathetic to Back-up.

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Oppy's picture

August 21, 2022 at 11:32 pm

I would love to go back in time and see what your comments about Aaron Rodgers were when he was drafted through his first 3 years in the league.

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

August 22, 2022 at 02:08 pm

He wasnt even born yet. He thinks Rodgers came in looking like a hall of famer day 1.

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Oppy's picture

August 22, 2022 at 05:13 pm

Stockholder is in his late 50's, early 60's if I recall correctly.

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10ve 💚's picture

August 21, 2022 at 07:09 pm

I'm not one to trade Love away. Especially not for draft capital.

Instead, if Rodgers does indeed stay a couple more years, and trade we must, then trade for another veteran player who could make an immediate impact and help the team get over that final hump.

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PatrickGB's picture

August 21, 2022 at 07:41 pm

This year has plenty of things to worry over. I will worry about Jordan Loves’s contract next year.

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vin0770's picture

August 21, 2022 at 08:01 pm

I think he’s getting better between the ears and see’s things and makes a quicker decision what he wants to do with the ball. I just am underwhelmed by his natural accuracy I think he still misses throws that are more routine than any other description I can think of. If he gets in a real game because of an AR injury and misses those layup throws, drives stall out.

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vin0770's picture

August 22, 2022 at 12:11 pm

Not a huge Colin Cowherd fan but I think he’s entertaining. He officially called Love a bust, not accurate enough…hmmm 🤔

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Roadrunner23's picture

August 21, 2022 at 09:52 pm

I’m not sure what to think of Love, he seems to be improving daily, but like my golf game there are plenty of disappointing downturns.
I guess normal for a 23 year old QB behind a HOF QB. Let’s hope he’s the next great one 🤞

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Bearmeat's picture

August 22, 2022 at 12:42 pm

I think that JL is a future starting QB and if Aaron Rodgers is on the team next year, that will be a massive opportunity lost for the Packers. Hopefully, 12 doesn't retire and they can trade him. Along with trading 69. Cutting 2 and 18 and 89.

Yeah. I said it. Time to moooooove on.

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