Jordan Love - Scouting Report Sneak Peek
Psst.. here's a sneak peek at a Pro scouting report on Jordan Love.
By JerseyAl
What you see below is the summary page of an extensive scouting report on Jordan Love. The report was prepared by a Pro scouting service that is hired by NFL teams to provide additional input on draft prospects. (the scores are out of a possible 10 points)
While I highly recommend you go through it all, if you just don't have the tme, make sure you at least go to the very end and read the Player Comparison.
Enjoy!
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LOVE, Jordan |
Utah State |
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2016 |
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Body Structure |
Love has a tall, lean frame, but possesses the ability to add at least ten pounds of bulk without the additional bulk impacting his above average quickness. He has good bone structure, tight waist and abdomen, with long limbs, good upper body muscle development, with good thigh and calf muscle definition. He has a well-proportioned build, not really “jacked up,” where he is overly muscular, as his athletic frame perfectly suits his impressive agility and mobility. |
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General Report |
8.24 |
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Athletic Ability |
8.7 |
Love has the best athleticism of any 2020 draft eligible quarterback not named Tua, as he has outstanding foot quickness and agility, making him a dangerous threat to run and turn up field when the pocket is compromised. He displays excellent body control on the move, possessing the agility and balance to step into his throws. As a ball carrier, he has above average speed and acceleration for his position. Despite early season struggles in 2019, he has shown improvement throwing on the move. He has the balance and feet to slide away from pass rushers and good range of motion on the move. He can develop into a savvy decision maker rolling out of the pocket, as he displays above average kinesthetic awareness. |
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Football Sense |
8.0 |
Love has complete command of the huddle and total control on the field. He has shown much better improvising skills as a junior than during his senior year, but he appears to have confidence in his ability to create in an instant. He has solid field awareness and outstanding pocket presence, but must do a better job of protecting the ball, especially from backside pursuers. He has shown very good play retention ability and is a master at improvising on the run. With his natural football instincts and accuracy throwing on the move, he looks like a version of Aaron Rodgers for the way he handles check-downs and gets the ball out to his receivers without having them adjust too much for the ball. He has shown in the past that he can be a good decision maker capable of making the spectacular play. He plays with the swagger you look for in a quarterback, combining that with above average athleticism and quick feet to be a dangerous threat on the move or standing in the pocket. He sees coverage developing very quickly and makes good adjustments changing up the plays in game situations. He is good at making checks and makes a conscious effort to scan the field and use all the tools given him (very alert to secondary targets), especially when forced to improvise. He is a “student of the game” who puts in the extra hours after practice and in the film room, where he studies tapes religiously (has that bit of Rodgers' perfectionist to him, as he takes advantage of any avenue to improve his overall game). |
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Character |
8.0 |
Love is well-liked and respected by the staff and teammates. He comes from a very supportive family, is close to his older brother and has always had that “inner fire” to succeed in whatever he does. He has no known off-field issues and with the way he responds to the coaches and works with his teammates, he would make a nice coaching candidate when he hangs up his football helmet. |
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Competitiveness |
8.3 |
Love is a classic warrior. The only thing missing in the trenches is “war paint.” He plays with bumps and bruises that would sideline most quarterbacks and he instantly brings confidence to his teammates with the swagger he displays on the field. The thing you see on film is his extreme confidence in his athletic ability, as it allows him to be an aggressive playmaker with the confidence he displays to take chances and create something out of nothing. The thing that impresses talent evaluators is that he will seek out and play with reckless abandon (has that Brett Favre/Aaron Rodgers moxie to his play). He is patient working with younger teammates, but will also take them to task for mistakes. He does all the “little extras” that a pro quarterback needs to do in the training and film rooms. He is sometimes his harshest critic, a bit of a perfectionist, but who wouldn’t want a field general with his desire to win, at any cost? He has excellent huddle command and is both mentally and physically tough. |
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Work Habits |
8.2 |
Love has that businessman’s approach to his craft and puts forth the extra hours needed to hone his skills. He plays with tremendous pride and is known to “get hard on himself” after games for what he deems is a less than perfect performance, yet, he never lets bad plays affect the rest of his game, quickly shunning them to get back to the game plan at hand. Sometimes, it seems like Love lives in the football office. More often than not, his spare time will be spent in the film room or on the practice field. He is an example for the younger players to emulate. Anyone “talking bad” about him is probably an opposing defensive coordinator, as that coach knows he is in for a long afternoon facing a well-prepared Love coming out of the huddle. He commands respect in the locker room and huddle, yet prides himself on being “one of the guys.” |
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Athletic Report |
7.94 |
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Set Up |
7.9 |
Love is still not NFL-ready, but his set-up displays cat-like quickness. He has a nice array of fakes and moves to freeze a defense and shows above average body mechanics getting to his pass set point. He has the balance, foot speed and body control to drive back from center quickly. He is highly effective throwing on the move. The thing that gives Love an advantage vs. the blitz is his quick feet in his set-up. He has very good balance and body control getting to his drop point and is usually in position to make all his throws. He shows good pad level and feet to separate from under center, consistently delivering the back-foot press and pop-up. He has the ability to step up in the pocket and keeps defenses honest with his ability to tuck the ball and run with it, if he finds that space needed to get into the second level. |
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Reading Defenses |
8.0 |
Love is a classic touch passer who has very good vision and instincts, evident by the way he can instantly read and understand the defensive coverage. He is an instinctive player and good decision maker. While he is a quick decision maker, he is also the type that plays within the offense’s framework. He has that instinctive nature you look for in a successful quarterback – he knows when to throw and when to run. |
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Release |
7.1 |
Love has worked hard to erase a bit of a wind-up that he sometimes had in the past when trying to fire the ball from a low angle. Summer camps has seen him develop a highly effective and quick release (high), along with an ability to improvise on the run. He throws across the body effectively and even on the occasions where he will sidearm the ball, he puts good zip behind his tosses. When he throws from overhead and not shoot from the hip, he is very capable of getting the ball out with outstanding velocity and touch. He has shown marked improvement in making his delivery more compact and when that ball comes off his fingers, you can actually hear the “buzz” behind his throws before it explodes into his target’s chest. Even when he fires with a “big circle,” he gets the ball out quickly, thanks to his ability to anticipate his receivers on the route’s progression. More patient coaching will help him to prevent dropping the ball in his motion, but you can see he has the mechanics for a smooth and compact delivery. |
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Arm Strength |
8.5 |
Love has an NFL-caliber arm, as he generates exceptional velocity and zip on the ball. The team system is geared more for the intermediate passing game, but he has more than enough arm strength to fire long. His ball comes off his fingers with excellent velocity. He is still learning how to take “something off” his throws in order not to break his receivers’ fingers, especially when throwing into tight areas. He puts very good zip on his passes to get it to his targets from the opposite hash. While his coaches misuse his arm strength by relying more on the running game, he has shown flashes of brilliance getting the ball up the seam, especially noted on deep comebacks, streaks and when roping the posts. He has a lively arm for the short passing game, also, and good accuracy when airing it out. You can see that he has that outstanding arm strength to put zip behind his throws. |
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Accuracy |
7.3 |
After struggling early with poor receivers and a scheme that did not match his athleticism, Love was allowed more say in the play-calling the second half of 2019 and he showed the ability to change up speed on his short tosses to make the completion, thanks to solid consistency and timing. On the long throws, he flashes touch and accuracy, even though he was “stuck” in an offense that was more designed for the short-to-intermediate passing game. He is a highly effective short-to-medium range passer when given protection, as he can generate the touch and velocity, when needed. The coaches don’t let him uncork the long ball as much as a QB with his arm strength needs to do, but on those occasions, you can see that he can throw the deep ball with optimum air, velocity and timing. The thing you saw in his 2019 games the second half of the season was his ability to “smoke it” into the cornerback/safety voids. With his improved touch, he is perfectly capable of giving his receivers space and time to adjust. |
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Touch |
7.3 |
Love has that great field vision a pro quarterback needs when reading defenses and making adjustments. He uses all of his receivers with effectiveness and will locate and hit his targets with consistency. He has very good anticipation of the receiver’s route progression and shows good timing to get the ball to his targets as they become open. He has the timing to connect with the long ball and while he has to eliminate his big circle (just does that on occasion now), he has a good feel for timing routes. He shows that he can lay it over the top when going deep and down the seam and also along the boundaries. Even though he does not get a lot of “shots” downfield as his strong arm deserves, he has good deep ball placement when he does fire into this area. The thing you notice on 2018 game tapes was his success in leading his receivers to the ball, but in 2019, he had very poor quality targets to work with. He throws that deep ball with ease, even though it whistles and buzzes with tremendous velocity. Another thing noticed on tapes is that he throws the long ball with nice trajectory. |
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Poise |
8.0 |
Love has the swagger of “Johnny Depp in the Pirates of the Caribbean.” He is the total take-charge type on the field and the consummate playmaker and team leader, as the Aggies players seem to rally around their field general. He has that moxie to hold the ball and not get rattled in the face of a fierce pass rush, but if the defense gets too aggressive, he has that speed and running ability to tuck the ball and get good yardage on the ground.He shows very good focus on the scramble and knows he has the ability to make things happen with his arm or feet. He stays composed and feels pressure well, knowing when to step up in the pocket or slide laterally to avoid the rush. |
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Leadership |
8.3 |
Love has great presence in the huddle and everyone knows he is in charge. He is a good leader by example, but will not hesitate to get vocal if he feels a teammate is not playing up to his abilities. He is highly respected by the staff and a good presence in the locker room. Players look up to him and he has the maturity, tactfulness, competitiveness and confidence to be the type that will be a respected leader at a young age, once he enters the NFL. |
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Pocket Movement |
8.3 |
Love shows very good pocket awareness and when he sees an open rush lane, will not hesitate to hit the hole with quickness and power. He is a long strider that gobbles up real estate in a hurry and is perfectly capable of rolling out and throwing the ball deep from the opposite hash. He shows good balance and timing on his three-step drop and even on longer drops, he has the change of direction skills to stop on the dime, redirect and leave a would-be tackler grabbing at air. The thing you see consistently on those game films is his ability to step up or get out of the pocket to borrow time before completing the pass. He does a nice job of maintaining focus down field and the vision to locate his secondary targets. When given time to read coverage, he is very efficient at distributing the ball to lots of targets. I like the way that he goes through his progressions to locate those second and third options, rather than getting “tunnel vision” by locking on to his primary target for too long. |
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Scrambling Ability |
7.4 |
Love can move fast away from pressure while also showing the ability to throw on the run. Opposing defenses know that he is a dangerous runner and this forces them to “man up” on him rather than double-teaming another Utah State player. You can see that he can pull up and hit a big play, thanks to his cannon for an arm. You see on film that while he can avoid contact, he also has that underrated strength to square his shoulders and power through to fight for additional yardage. |
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Compares To |
Aaron Rodgers-Green Bay...Love is an athletic “stallion” in the mold of McNabb during Donovan’s prime. He needs to add some bulk to his frame to absorb punishment at the next level and undergo some mechanical refinement (wind-up and low release point), but I challenge anyone to find another quarterback eligible for the 2020 draft that has his arm strength, running ability and quickness. His arm rivals that of Rodgers' and his swagger is favorably compared to that of Matt Ryan’s. He’s just not utilized to his best assets by the Utah State coaches. |
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Comments (92)
jeremyjjbrown
April 26, 2020 at 07:22 pm
That's a highly positive writeup. I was expecting some complaints about poor accuracy at times, but this author seams to think his targets and coaches share quite a bit of responsibility there.
Minniman
April 27, 2020 at 06:22 am
Yes, it’s certainly complimentary - for comparison though ideally I’d like to see what that scout wrote about Brett Huntley and DeShone Kizer. We are entering “interesting” times!
Coldworld
April 27, 2020 at 07:48 am
Kizer in particular. If I recall there were questions about Kizer’s confidence and coachability that seem absent here. I think Kizer was commonly compared to Cam Newton.
murf7777
April 27, 2020 at 07:55 am
That would be interesting....here is part of Hundley Nfl.com report....
DRAFT PROJECTION Round 4 or 5
SOURCES TELL US "Someone will draft him, but I don't think he will ever be a starter. He can't read coverages and struggles to process. It is going to take a few years before he looks like a backup in my opinion. He has a long way to go." -- AFC area scout
NFL COMPARISON Jason Campbell
BOTTOM LINE Hundley flashes athleticism and talent, but his basic quarterbacking issues will take time to improve. In 2014, more than 54 percent of his pass attempts were from six yards and in, including 29 percent from behind the line of scrimmage, which is nothing like an NFL offense. Hundley is a "flash" prospect who shows the physical tools to be a starter, but his internal clock and issues with reads and progressions must be improved to give him a shot at becoming a decent NFL starter.
PeteK
April 27, 2020 at 09:40 am
He was athletic ,but Hundley's throws couldn't break a pane of glass.
Leatherhead
April 26, 2020 at 07:35 pm
Yeah, that’s a very positive assessment. I know some people think Gute is an incompetent moron, but I guarantee you that he and the scouting staff watched all the film of every snap he took in college.
He may not become a great QB, but drafting him was not a stupid move.
jannesbjornson
April 27, 2020 at 08:08 am
Best player on the board. Was Murray his guy or Aiyuk? Love fell and he jumped on him.
splitpea1
April 26, 2020 at 08:03 pm
That's a pretty impressive report, I'll have to admit, and it does make me feel a little better about the pick. Nothing else has. The biggest concerns I've heard are about the wind-up and the decision-making , but the latter has been attributed to him trying to do too much with a less than stellar supporting cast. As far as the comparison to AR, I'd have to see it before I'd believe it because we've seen AR do some pretty incredible things over the years.
I still wish we had waited another year to select a QB with a high pick, but since we did what we did, I hope it works out well for us. Still wondering why New England passed on him, though--not that we'll ever probably find out.
murf7777
April 26, 2020 at 08:20 pm
Split pea, I understand your thought on waiting,but I’d rather be too soon then miss the bus.when you have your opportunity you have to strike and take the chance because you may not get another.
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
April 28, 2020 at 07:13 am
Agreed Murph!
CheesyTex
April 26, 2020 at 09:43 pm
splitpea. "The biggest concerns I've heard are about the wind-up..."
As I recall, #12 had a similar issue as a result of Cal coach Jeff Tedford's coaching, but (obviously) had the talent and smarts to correct it. Hope lightning strikes again.
NickPerry
April 27, 2020 at 07:18 am
That's EXACTLY what and who I thought of as well coming out when I read this. Didn't Rodgers hold the ball up high, almost next to the earhole on his helmet?
jannesbjornson
April 27, 2020 at 08:10 am
Deja vu all over again and the same whining from the Fans about not getting Favre weapons.
PeteK
April 27, 2020 at 09:52 am
I like the pick, but I think the concerns are legitimate. Now my attention will zero in on Ervin in the hope that he is the quick twitch(4.4 in 40) slot receiver we need.
Dzehren
April 26, 2020 at 08:07 pm
Gotta like this...:
“Love is still learning how to take “something off” his throws in order not to break his receivers’ fingers, especially when throwing into tight areas. “
jeremyjjbrown
April 26, 2020 at 08:08 pm
I just watched Utah St and Love against Michigan St on Youtube. I suggest everyone go take a peak, it's edited and very fast. He makes some really nice throws in that game and keeps his team in the game pretty muxh single handedly.
murf7777
April 26, 2020 at 09:17 pm
JJ, check out his 2019 Fresno St. Game it’s more impressive. Some of his throws are crazy good, ala Mahomes, but I can also see how he needs to reel it in a bit as well as he makes some throws that shouldn’t be made.
Gman1976
April 26, 2020 at 08:08 pm
I still hate the pick, but if these things are true, I can understand it. I hope I and all the other teams and experts that passed on him are proved wrong. Hope to love the Love pick 2-5 years from now.
BELIEVER
April 26, 2020 at 09:28 pm
You will
murf7777
April 26, 2020 at 08:29 pm
Thank you for sharing this scouting report. I was surprised and almost fell off my chair with shock when this was announced, but the next morning after little sleep and watching his film I became very excited about the opportunity of drafting what I then believed we just drafted a QB with enormous upside. His tape sold me. Prior to the draft, I was hoping we would land Jalen hurts in the 3rd round, now I’m even more excited we drafted Jordan love after reading this write up.
Minniman
April 27, 2020 at 06:31 am
I’m not unhappy that Jalen Hurts was not selected - beaten for the starting role at Alabama by the Sophmore Tua, transferred to Oklahoma into a team that was just missing a QB. He reminded me of Kizer (and he was patchy at Notre dame when in college). Something missing.
PeteK
April 27, 2020 at 09:57 am
I agree, Hurts is more of a runner than a passer. Love isn't jittery in the pocket and shows patience.
ShooterMcGee
April 26, 2020 at 08:34 pm
I just wish that J. Love was the only questionable draft pick. Rounds 2 and 3 were such reaches at positions of little need that they overshadowed the Love pick. It seems to me Gutenkunst falls in love with certain players and was determined to pick them no matter what round. By contrast the Ravens patiently wait for good players to fall to them, and they choose them. J.Love better be the reincarnation of Rodgers because this draft class looks far worse than his 2018 draft. Soon he may be sitting at home filling out mocks like the rest of us knuckleheads.
splitpea1
April 26, 2020 at 09:04 pm
I feel the same way about the second and third rounds. They're both cogs in the MLF offense, but I thought these types of players could be acquired further down. We could have used these picks to upgrade WR and DL instead of relying on our current cast or hoping we can find a gem elsewhere.
Bure9620
April 26, 2020 at 09:24 pm
Round 3 but not AJ Dillon. He would have ben gone early 3rd
Thegreatreynoldo
April 27, 2020 at 03:17 am
Yes, my initial reaction was that 62 was too high for Dillon. Then I checked and saw that Elaire went 32, Swift 35, Taylor 41, Akers 52, Dobbins 55, and Gibson went 66. Vaughn, Moss and Darryington went 76, 86 and 93. That seemed a little high for several of them. I hoped Gibson would be there at 94.
There is no way to be certain when he would have been drafted had the Packers taken someone else at 62 (Prince Tego Wanogho went 210th after all). He might have gone in the seventies, I suppose, but IDK, and I don't think he'd would have been there at 94.
ShooterMcGee
April 27, 2020 at 07:08 am
You are probably right he wouldn't have been there at 94. Still it would have been nice to trade back 10-20 spots and gain an additional pick or two. For example the Ravens traded #60 and #129 to the Patriots for picks 71 and 98. Maybe the same player they liked at 60 was still there at 71, IDK. It just seems to me some GMs are playing chess while others are playing checkers. Gutenkunst played tiddly winks.
Coldworld
April 27, 2020 at 07:55 am
Boards reflect fit with perceived usage as well as general talent. It would seem that certain attributes are more valued this year than in the recent past. Green Bay, seeming to reshape it’s focus, perhaps more so.
If a team thinks a player brings what they need when others don’t, I have no issue with drafting to their value rating. Value is in part a risk of not getting. The question of whether the new wish list premise has merit is a different one.
jannesbjornson
April 27, 2020 at 08:22 am
They needed a TE after Graham was moved and a FB type to cover for Vitale, so Deguara fits that spot. They needed a slot WR, maybe Begelton fits that role?? The power running game was definitely in need of repair and Dillon has been on the radar since 2017. He got Football Players, not Projects. I wasn't sold on MIms, nor Shenault.
The Chargers made a bold move for Murray then After Lynch moved up for Aiyuk the writing was on the wall to select Love. Could history repeat with this guy? I thought he was the best QB in the game vs LSU, he just didn't have the manpower to match the Tigers.
murf7777
April 27, 2020 at 11:10 am
I suspect they tried to move back and agree that was my thought.
PeteK
April 27, 2020 at 03:58 pm
For what it's worth, he did show up on Kiper's top ten list towards the top of round two. I love Leatherhead's description, "meat hammer". I don't give the measurable in the combine much validity unless they are outstanding, but how can anyone ignore a six footer with a 41" vertical, 131" broad, and a 4.53 40.
BirdDogUni
April 27, 2020 at 10:28 pm
Hey Tgr - (You'll love Dillon!) Hop on the AJ Train! ;)
https://twitter.com/JimNagy_SB/status/1168520297269661696?fbclid=IwAR2uL...
This one play is why I love the Josiah Deguara pick in the 3rd! I want guys like this on my team...
Samson
April 26, 2020 at 10:05 pm
I just can't see how any team "patiently waits for good players to fall to them."
The draft is far from a science.. It's a crapshoot at the highest level.... Half of all 1st round draft picks fail their draft status.
Love, Dillon & the other guy will be household names soon enough.... It's called BPA.
murf7777
April 26, 2020 at 08:37 pm
Al, any chance you can get this report on the other three QB’s selected in the first round? I’m curios how they scored. I’ve heard Love compared mostly to Mahomes and now Rodgers, that’s impressive. I know high success may never materialize for Love but we can hope and dream a bit!
Bure9620
April 26, 2020 at 09:29 pm
It would be so hard to compare. Tua and Burrow had absolutely terrific supporting casts many of whom were drafted. I would like to see Love in the pocket for 8 seconds and throwing to wide open Ruggs or Jeudy, same with Burrows weapons and incredible protection.
Turophile
April 26, 2020 at 09:58 pm
Thanks for bringing this report here, Jersey Al.
My gold standard for QBs is whether they can do three things well.
1) Can you put the ball where it needs to go.
2) Can you read the field and understand whats happening, pre and post snap.
3) Can you buy time in the pocket to get the ball out
1) Love has all the arm strength you want and can throw a pretty deep ball. You have to question his accuracy given his college completion rate. Low-accuracy passers don't seem to become accurate once they get to the NFL. This doesn't guarantee failure on its own, but it is a worry.
2) Love is no Jake Fromm when it comes to reading the field. He isn't awful either. If he resorts to half-field reads like some QBs have done, he'll get found out. I think two years behind Rodgers will work wonders here, QBs just don't get that time, these days.
3) I'm ok with what Love is here. He can sense pressure, has the necessary escapability, the courage to keep looking downfield when pressured, and can toss it nicely on the run.
Conclusion. Love has a less than 50/50 chance of being the next effective QB1 for Green Bay............but that applies to almost any QB taken (even first rounders). It's a roll of the dice taking him, but the Packers need a succession plan in the next couple of years. Overall, I don't think he is a bad choice. Love has some nice intangibles that enhance his chance to make it.
Aaron Rodger's contract suggests to me he starts until the end of 2021 (ie two more years). That gives Love more time to sit and learn, than almost any other round one QB gets. That will be a huge help to his efforts to succeed, as will being behind a QB like Rodgers.
Given where the Packers usually draft, they are never going to have a shot at the closest thing to a sure thing QB (Burrow this year, Lawrence next year), so they must find someone later that they believe in and pull the trigger. I have no problem with Love as the Packers first pick, because although the success rate at QB is low, it is by some distance the most important position on the field.
murf7777
April 27, 2020 at 07:15 am
“You have to question his accuracy given his college completion rate. Low-accuracy passers don't seem to become accurate once they get to the NFL.” Sophomore year 65% and junior year with many seniors graduated and a new head and O coordinator coach he was 61%. Those are decent completion %. Go back and take a look at Brett Favre % and you will understand that your not a finished product right out of college.
Turophile
April 27, 2020 at 09:40 am
I remembered that his accuracy was spotty............and it can be when he is under pressure, but it was significantly better than I thought, after his freshman year (note to self: look it up before posting). You are right, and that's a good thing given what I said about low-accuracy passers in college.
After reading TDN's report on him, I don't like that his comparison is Kaepernick (don't want to see those half-field reads, as I said before), but he has time to get better at that.
Samson
April 26, 2020 at 09:47 pm
AR just may love showing this guy the ropes for the next two years.
BF to AR to JL... Sounds good to me... Now... how to do the divorce?
jannesbjornson
April 27, 2020 at 08:29 am
Rodgers will hang until age 40 minimum. He will have to determine if he wants to go the Brady route. Favre was pretty beat up by age 41. The risk with the concussions is real.
PeteK
April 27, 2020 at 10:15 am
and Rogers has an injury history that is of some concern.
murf7777
April 27, 2020 at 11:32 am
I believe that is a big issue and he provides us better insurance then Boyle.
MarkinMadison
April 26, 2020 at 10:41 pm
I think it is the ability to throw from multiple platforms that compares best to #12.
I get it. We'll see how it plays out.
Since'61
April 26, 2020 at 10:56 pm
Appreciate the write up Al. Sounds very much like a scouting report on AR from about 15 years ago. He will need 2020 to not only learn the offense but also to bulk up a little.
Beyond that coaching and practice should get him ready to take over for Rodgers by 2022 if not earlier. After that it is on the job training. No way to know how well he will play until he gets on the field. Stay well. Thanks, Since ‘61
Bradleejay
April 27, 2020 at 11:36 am
I liked the pick. It took guts to draft him. Love will have the opportunity to sit on the bench and learn by watching Rodgers.
If in 3 years he hits his potential then Aaron will have to move on. If he doesn't Gutey will have to move on.
flackcatcher
April 26, 2020 at 11:37 pm
Thanks for sharing Love's scouting report with us Al. Wow. I don't know what else to say. I reread it 6 times looks for any hint of grease or dirt on this guy. Evaluators as a rule like to get the bad news out first. There was nothing, Nothing wrong with him at all. The only flaw is in his football mechanics that he has already clean up. If Green Bay evaluation was anything like this area scout, one can see why Gute spent so much draft capital to move up.
HankScorpio
April 27, 2020 at 05:15 am
"one can see why Gute spent so much draft capital to move up."
I still don't get why Gute traded up. People are welcome to believe that he "had" to move up to secure Love, there will never be a shred of evidence to support that. Making it just as legitimate to believe he panicked and paid more than he had to pay. Since he's moved up in round one in 3 of 3 drafts, he has a history to support the notion that he does panic and over-pay. Rapoport has reported 1) He pre-arranged a trade with Seattle for 27 2) Seattle had no backup trade down offers 3) No "chatter" that Indy was looking to jump up to get Love. That report is support by the fact that Seattle did stand pat @ 27 and that Indy had plenty of ammo to get Love if they really wanted him.
Here is the list of WRs that went between the pick they gave up for Love and the pick they used on Kamal Martin: Antonio Gandy-Golden, Joe Reed, John Hightower, Isaiah Coulter, Darnell Mooney, Tyler Johnson, Quintez Cephus or Collin Johnson. Reed and Hightower were RAS qualifiers.
So it might look this:
30-Love
62- Dillon
94- Deguara
134-Reed (my pick from those names but put in your own)
And the draft would look a ton better than it actually did with his annual trade-up.
murf7777
April 27, 2020 at 07:26 am
There were reports that the Vikings were trying to trade up for Love and we beat them out. After our pick they proceeded to trade down which brings some validity to that report. There were other teams in the upper half of the 2nd round reported to move up as well. That said, some pundits had him as a top 10 pic and the next best QB prospect behind Burrow. The reality is none of those QB’s are guaranteed success it’s an educated guess. Good thing about Love is he has been healthy! Tua, not so much.
Coldworld
April 27, 2020 at 08:28 am
I heard Indy too.
I did not like picking a QB at all, any QB, in the first, even had we not traded up. That said, I’m not an amateur scout. I did not see a Rodgers potential or Favre’s before we acquired them.
What I do know is that nothing in football comes close in value to finding a generational starting QB. Because of that, if you do, you don’t hesitate or penny pinch if you really believe.
If our scouts shared this assessment, there is no way on earth you let him escape if you can. I assume that was the thought process based on the above and subsequent comments.
I can’t knock a team for dropping the script and grabbing a generational player in their eyes. In fact quite the opposite. They do not come around often and if they do, drop into range even less often.
If Love is really as depicted this choice should be lauded. Of course, many if not most such picks turn out to be not what they seem. It’s a high capital risk, but one any GM should take if they see what this scout did. I hope time proves him correct.
HankScorpio
April 27, 2020 at 12:34 pm
"I heard Indy too."
From who? Rapoport, who is pretty plugged, specifically said he had no reports about Indy wanting Love. This is standard BS used used to make fans feel good about a lack of patience to make a small move up. Indy had the draft capital with 34 and 44. Yet Love is not a Colt. Maybe it's just BS.
#23, #25 & #26 were all moved by "motivated sellers" that took less on the value chart then they gave up. If Indy, or anyone else, wanted Love, they didn't want him very badly.
jannesbjornson
April 28, 2020 at 10:19 pm
If they wanted Love, the queens would have stayed at #25. NOLA @ #24 I thought would be a trade partner for the Pack., but it didn't matter as the Chargers went to #23 to bag Murray. Beliichick will probably stick with Stidhem or pick up Dalton later.
HankScorpio
April 27, 2020 at 01:23 pm
If someone was looking to secure their QB of the future, there was plenty of opportunity to do so. But either nobody wanted him at all or they didn't want him enough to make a strong offer. That includes Gute, who didn't show a real conviction that he believed Love to be a "generational talent". If Gute truly believed that Love was a generational talent he would have jumped to 22/23, ahead of NE and NO, which were prime landing spots for a 'generational talent' at QB.
But he could not wait it out until 30 because...well, who the heck knows. All I really know is he's given up 4 picks in 3 drafts to move up in round 1. Picks that might be nice depth pieces now. Depth they could use.
Ultimately, no matter what "reports" surface, the cost of moving up will point me in the direction that Gute was bidding against himself.
HankScorpio
April 27, 2020 at 12:16 pm
"There were reports that the Vikings were trying to trade up for Love and we beat them out. "
Ah yes, the "reports". Who reported that one? Whoever did is a blithering idiot. The Viking had 25 and traded down.
Maybe you should be a little more skeptical of convenient information that justifies what seems like a pretty stupid move. Got any more "reports"?
Adrian
April 27, 2020 at 03:27 am
Hello,
do anybody know if I can watch the College Games from Love in full length?
Is it only ESPN, or are there other sites?
Would be a little expensive to get ESPN Account only for a dozen of games.
best regards from Berlin, Germany
flackcatcher
April 27, 2020 at 06:35 am
Pretty every Division 1-FCS conference has an online website with their teams seasons highlights. Just goggle his name and click on the links. Game highlights should still be there from last season. Hopes it helps...
HankScorpio
April 27, 2020 at 05:36 am
This is all just a little too perfect to believe is true. Never before has a team lined up 3 QBs in a row. It's true that something has never happened until it does happen. A glowing scouting report is a nice start but there is a long way between that and the transition turning to reality.
I said the same thing 15 years ago. I began to change my tune when Rodgers stepped into a huge game vs Dallas when Favre got hurt. And looked the part of a legit NFL QB. So I'll watch and wait, hoping for the best.
Coldworld
April 27, 2020 at 08:59 am
Just because three in a row would be unheard of doesn’t lessen the need to continue to shoot for it. The lack of QBs if Favre/Rodgers quality around the league during their careers shows how long a shot it is to find one. If any GM thinks they found one, then there is no other choice but to roll the dice because that’s the Holy Grail.
HankScorpio
April 27, 2020 at 03:00 pm
Agreed, even if I think it was premature to spend a 1st on Rodgers' replacement. Maybe if I factor in that Rodgers is not the iron man that Favre was, it lessens the doubts.
If I force myself to sit through one Brett Hundley game on gamepass, it ought to cure any lingering doubts. Would it be a fair test to at least pick a game they win? It's not like Hundley played good even in those games.
Lphill
April 27, 2020 at 06:02 am
I can’t wait to hear from all the Rodgers haters when we are watching him get another ring with another team that surrounds him with talent unlike the Packers, as Love is slinging interceptions all over the field, Love will hold a clipboard and be out of the NFL probably 3 years. . Mandarich and Love will be synonymous.
Coldworld
April 27, 2020 at 08:53 am
Lol, it’s one thing not to like a draft but to condemn Love as a washout based on nothing other than your own prejudice is quite another.
If you have nothing rooted in reason to say, probably better not to say anything: alternatively find some evidence to back up your assertions.
croatpackfan
April 27, 2020 at 07:28 am
I would share one opinion about this Packers Draft. With this man I do not always agree, but I really respect his opinion as time prove what he was claiming. his name is Vic Ketchman:
"You're not getting it. The Packers are moving on, and that speaks volumes about Gutekunst's opinion of the Packers roster. Do you think a wide receiver was going to change what happened in San Francisco twice last season? My inbox was shocked at my angry reaction to that eight-pass rout in the conference title game. I was shocked at how accepting Packers fans were of it. That was humiliating. That was a this-must-never-happen-again kind of game. The days of hard counts and soft defenses must end. A pounder, a center and two guards? What's that tell you? Vic to Packers fans: What you witnessed this past weekend was meaningful change."
NickPerry
April 27, 2020 at 07:45 am
No offense Croat but Ketcham is a boob. Maybe it's just me but when I read a piece on Packers.com, I don't want my writer referring to the Pittsburgh Steelers like Vic almost always seemed to do... At least the few times I read him.
Moving on? Then WHY sign Rodgers to a contract like he did in August of 2018? Rodgers still had 2 years left on his contract yet Gute gave him a 4 year extension and $134 million. That's not moving on, that making sure he never plays anywhere else and will be here for at least another 4 or 5 years.
Coldworld
April 27, 2020 at 08:47 am
I agree with Vic. I think it is clear that the Packers did too. I certainly did not see it coming but the team has decided to move on. Not necessarily from Rodgers (though I think it is likely they do not feel he can carry the team as he once did), but from a team that relies on high scoring, multiple rapid possessions to one that can control the game.
I would like to have seen more obvious measures to counter the run, but perhaps we have if they don’t see the DL as the cause. We are used to stopping the run threat by scoring so fast that it becomes irrelevant. Right or wrong, we look to be moving to wearing down and confusing opponents to keep their O off the field an our D fresh, which improved a lighter speed based D, while capitalizing on their D wearing down.
jannesbjornson
April 28, 2020 at 10:31 pm
Love is not going to be groomed to be a game manager.
fthisJack
April 27, 2020 at 10:17 am
I wouldn't call it moving on...I would call it surrendering! How you going to win when you have no run defense?
PeteK
April 27, 2020 at 10:32 am
We need a SNACK, it could allay our fears.
NickPerry
April 27, 2020 at 07:28 am
WOW... I must admit I feel better about the pick of Love the QB, I STILL don't understand WHY Gute takes a QB in round 1 when you couldn't stop the run and you still don't have a solid #2 WR.
I mean does Gute REALLY think Funchess is a solid #2? Is he that enamored with Lazard? Does he think ESB will come off the IR from last season and be a solid #2? I loved the EBS pick and I still do, and I think a lot of us forget he'll be healthy and in camp when and if it starts.
With 3 picks in the Top 100 the Packers got ONE and he probably won't play for 3 possibly 4 years. After the 2019 offseason and draft I had NO DOUBT we were in good hands with Gute for the future. After the 2020 draft doubt has creep in. BUT I'll give him the benefit of the doubt...For now.
Coldworld
April 27, 2020 at 08:57 am
I can only assume that the Packers viewed Love along similar lines to this scout. If they did, that’s a drop everything moment that may never come around again.
Hope they are right.
TheNumber1PackerFan
April 27, 2020 at 07:39 am
I will honestly say that CheeseHeadTV is officially my only source for Packers information. I am done with anyone else (Fox, ESPN, CBS, etc). I want to hear news from professionals, who are Packers fans who know FOOTBALL and who KNOW THE DAMN TEAM. I appreciate what you all do and how hard you work. Once my finances are a little more stable, I will become a Patreon ha ha. I enjoy everything that you all do. You ALL do a great job of carrying the freakin G! Through the good and bad...GPG!
P.S. this draft was not as bad as everyone made it out to be.
JerseyAl
April 27, 2020 at 07:56 am
Wow, thanks for the kind words.!
MilkCan44
April 27, 2020 at 08:04 am
This report looks like it was written by his agent - but hope he's right. If not, he'll be an unemployed scout.
PackfanNY
April 27, 2020 at 08:08 am
No, no. This can’t be true! Arm chair GMs and draft “experts” throughout the land have proclaimed with certainty that this Packer draft is a bust. Via group think and herd mentality the Packer Draft has universally been condemned as “D” or worse dooming the franchise for years to come. Pay no mind to actual paid scouts and of course our own GM. No chance this draft is any good at all.
Ferrari-Driver
April 27, 2020 at 11:53 am
Hey Al,
Thanks for the write up and good job as always; I feel a little better after reading your report. Could you explain the use of one term for me and the rest of the Packer fans here? When the word "above average" is used does that refer to all college quarterbacks, NFL starting quarterbacks, college drafted quarterbacks in 2020, or something else?
JerseyAl
April 27, 2020 at 09:33 am
I would expect it to refer to all college QB prospects as a group.
GatorJason
April 27, 2020 at 09:39 am
I haven't been this pumped after seeing the Jordan Love report since last year when I saw the Rashan Gary report. The reports sound so good (it's almost like they are trying to sell it to someone) but I have as much confidence in them as I do with getting medical advice from President Trump. The ingredients are definitely there but Jordan is years away from "potentially" being a franchise QB.
Personally, I see Tim Boyle to backing up Aaron this Fall or whenever they allow the NFL to play games again.
PS: Lot's of JL videos. I like this one above his "life" story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itdm0N2e3GM
Packman60
April 27, 2020 at 10:19 am
This was a great read. Loved that his comp was Aaron Rodgers. I read a quote by a scout this weekend that said Love would be the only QB whose windows in the NFL would be bigger than what he had in college. This quote helps make sense of the 17 interceptions he had this year. The Packers are obviously trying to do what no team has ever done before and that's have 3 franchise quarterbacks in succession. No other team has demonstrated the long term planning to the position " the most important position in sports" that the Packers have. Let's hope they nailed it once again.
PeteK
April 27, 2020 at 10:39 am
Coaching up an athlete with a great work ethic is also a key to draft success. LF has a history of working well with QBs especially since he was one himself. Yes, he loves to run the ball , but also worked well with a prolific passing attack led by Matty ICE.
mnbadger
April 27, 2020 at 11:13 am
Thanks Jersey Al, I'm finally excited about the pick. This was an extremely positive scouting report. To prevent us from betting our mortgages on 2024 super bowl championship, can you provide one of the more negative reports so we have some perspective? Love what you do, especially since being furloughed.
ricky
April 27, 2020 at 01:21 pm
This report seems to be coming at a particularly opportune time for the Packers front office. The fan base was shocked and (generally) appalled at this pick. In a receiver deep draft, they draft a guy who hopefully won't play any significant time for two or more years. So, here is a report from an unnamed source that compares said QB draft pick with Favre and Rodgers, and even throws in a comparison to Captain Jack Sparrow! Notice how his upside is strongly emphasized, and his few faults are minimized. as MilkCan44 wrote earlier, this sounds like something that was written by his agent. This seems more like a way to mollify and reassure the fan base by planting positive information on a prominent fan website, and not an objective analysis of the strengths and weaknesses of Love's game. This site had someone break down those strengths and weaknesses, using specific game footage to illustrate the author's points. I found that interesting and illuminating. No offense, Jersey Al, but this reeks of team PR.
JerseyAl
April 27, 2020 at 01:38 pm
It's pretty hysterical the scenarios some of you create when you read something that doesn't agree with your narrative. Right, as if the Green Bay Packers are feeding me information. Hilarious! Let me know what you think when I make the Dillon scouting report public tonight.
ricky
April 28, 2020 at 11:55 am
Well, someone gave you this scouting report. Do I think it was given to you by someone with an agenda? Absolutely. Do I think you were aware of this? No. You took it in good faith, and added it to the site. What specifically bothers me is the comparisons to Rodgers and Favre- that seems pretty specific to a Packers pick. Also, this just seems so overwhelmingly positive. The positives of Love's game are drooled over, while the areas where he needs to improve are effectively downplayed. Do I think the pick sucks? Ask me in three years, when (if all goes as hoped) it seems likely that Love will be the Packers starter. As with any player on the Packers, I only hope they reach their full potential and help the team achieve more greatness. I think it's hilarious that you can't accept the possibility that someone fed you info that would help mollify the fan base.
LambeauPlain
April 27, 2020 at 01:44 pm
So the analysis was not written by a Scouting Service after all, as Jersey Al stated but a planted story by a mendacious Packer Organization. Who knew! What will this Team do next?
That is some great investigative reporting there Rick!
Or maybe, just maybe Love has all the tools, mental acuity, and leadership traits to succeed at the NFL’s most difficult and important position.
JerseyAl
April 27, 2020 at 02:23 pm
Thumbs up for use of "mendacious."
LambeauPlain
April 27, 2020 at 01:28 pm
Had Love’s Sophomore and Junior season’s been reversed, he would have been a top 10 pick and even in the buzz for being the first QB drafted.
After his fantastic Sophomore season his HC left and so did the Offense coaching staff...and his TOP FIVE receiving targets. His replacements were Gary Andersen...who focuses in D...his OC was Sanford who was Kizer’s coach at Notre Dame. FYI Kizer, after a good sophomore year also regressed under new coach Sanford. And his receivers were mostly first year starters or backups....all learning Sanfords new offense. Love held it together and led the team. I was impressed with that.
If he comes in and acts like the padawan to the Jedi Master 12, this could be a good student/mentor partnership. Sounds like Aaron will see a lot of personal similarities in the young man.
What is done is done. Now is time to make this productive and fun!
jannesbjornson
April 28, 2020 at 10:26 pm
Yost is gone to T-tech and Anderson brings in his version of Tom Rossley, what do you expect? Love is a Bakersfield guy, Kern County tough, like Merle Haggard.
Slim11
April 27, 2020 at 03:00 pm
This is a good report. Makes me look forward to seeing Love during the preseason.
BUT...there’s always a but...I saw the phrase “pad level” in the report. Did McCarthy write this?
BradHTX
April 28, 2020 at 06:55 am
I noted that as well! Good catch.
Slim11
April 27, 2020 at 02:59 pm
Deleted...double post
Oppy
April 27, 2020 at 10:34 pm
We'll find out a lot about how talented Love is by watching if Aaron Rodgers takes more snaps during the Preseason this year.
Up to this point, Rodgers has been adamant and publicly vocal that if he takes a single snap during the preseason, that's a snap too many.
It will be interesting to see is Rodgers suddenly starts taking a few more preseason snaps in the next two or three years.
Fubared
April 27, 2020 at 10:55 pm
I know zilch about this guy other than he didn't impress me with the interview he gave, not a rocket scientist for sure. Second the film clip they showed he did thread the needle passing to a guy covered by four defenders, meaning at least two other guys had to be almost wide open? Now I read led league in interceptions. Geno Smith or Travaris J.???????????
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
April 28, 2020 at 07:54 am
Glad to see more and more are coming around on the Love selection. Great article Al!
With the draft I have learned not to fall in 'love' with any one player, otherwise you will get your heart broken. I fight this every year as there is always a favorite, and then there is the player you believe is going to be the Packers selection.
Going into the draft I wanted either an OT, Jefferson, Shenault, Murray, or Love at #30. Really wanted any of these players but truly didnt think Jefferson, Murray, or Love would make it to 30. When Jefferson and Murray were gone and it was announced the Packers had traded up I started yelling it was Love!
Super excited and Al's report only has me more jazzed about him. 'Love' the comparisons to Rodgers/Favre. I too believe Rodgers will be a great mentor. He knows what it is like to be in this situation, plus from a PR perspective he has to be the exemplary mentor after the Favre situation and comments. I like knowing Love will be monitoring Rodgers game and his risk vs reward approach. Hopefully Love learns to be nearly as protective of the football as Rodgers.
BTW, I am also a fan of AJ Dillon's selection. Very impressive!
DraftHobbyist
April 28, 2020 at 03:12 pm
I learned a lot from this. I love QB prospects where you can just see the natural arm talent because the ball comes off their hand so easily, and Love obviously had that. There are things like character, work habits, etc. that are tougher for us to know about. Love seems to have all of these intangibles. I was also pleased to read about the growth in 2019, despite the worse season. Love looks like a Franchise QB to me as long as he can continue to develop, because he needs some time becoming more consistent. That's what I saw on tape, and they do mention consistency with the throwing motion here, too. But reading this, Love has already been improving the things that he needs to improve, and that makes me extremely hopeful and optimistic that he will be the guy. From Favre to Rodgers to Love could be the greatest QB run ever by a mile. I hope people remember how upset they were about this pick in 5 years.