Gut Reactions: LaFleur, Rodgers and Packers no-show against the Saints

Aaron gives his gut reactions to the Packers embarassing loss to the Saints. 

  • That looked a lot like a team that spent the summer reading their press clippings. 
  • The Packers were held hostage all offseason by the quarterback on display today? Really?
  • I can't believe how unprepared this team looked. 
  • Joe Barry has lots of energy you guys. 
  • That redzone pick from Aaron Rodgers was absymal rookie shit. 
  • Where was all the motion? The jet sweep action? That offensive gameplan was garbage. 
  • I know it felt like this game was over before this moment, but this game was over when Za'Darius got that garbage roughing call. 
  • I'm so fucking mad. 
  • This defense played soft and passive and got their ass handed to them.
  • Amari Rodgers doing Tyler Ervin things? Hello?
  • I'm glad Rodgers demanded they trade for Randall Cobb so he could be a complete afterthought. 
  • Burn the tape. 
  • See you next week. 
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Norm's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:17 pm

Last Dance, but too bad the girl is butt ugly.

Oh, and Fire Barry!

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:30 pm

I got absolutely shit on for saying the Packers should look at Kris Richard.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:43 pm

Just to let you know - he was my first choice. Actually I had Barry rated as last.

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UGDR's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:57 pm

Barry has ridden the coat tails of nepotism to failure at every stop at DC. This was a Panic hire after Leonard turned down the job. Entire organization has been reactive and not proactive for years.

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RedMN's picture

September 12, 2021 at 11:57 pm

Yeah I mean what the fuck where they thinking? Seems like when their top candidate(jim Leonard) turned them down they threw the remaining candidates names in a hat and did a blind draw because I have a hard time believing he was #2 on the list. His resume was sketchy at best.I know its still early but I didnt like what I saw today. A turnover machine like Winston with those 2nd rate receivers. I'm pressing those guys and making him beat my guys with tight throws. Put a spy on Kamara. King is not an every down cb.

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bullsa21's picture

September 13, 2021 at 04:09 pm

Where were the defensive guys flying to the ball? looked like Pettine was still coaching! Argggh

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GBPDAN1's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:38 pm

Maybe we should play our princesses during the preseason to get them ready

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UGDR's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:58 pm

Spot on

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fordguy's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:36 pm

Spot on what? The fact that the o-line couldn't run or pass block? Or that the Saints d-backs were running better routes than our receivers? And no I'm not giving Rodgers a pass cause he played shit but he wasn't the only one.

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bjkdad44's picture

September 12, 2021 at 08:10 pm

Preseason? We don’t play anybody in preseason anymore...

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Lare's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:18 pm

Terrible defense. We need a new DC.

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Barnacle's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:32 pm

Maybe we can trade our “diva” QB for a good water boy. Gutey missed a golden opportunity to get some value out of an overrated whiner.

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Lphill's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:57 pm

What position was Rodgers playing on defense?

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Thegravedigger's picture

September 12, 2021 at 10:20 pm

we scored 3 points dude.

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Coldworld's picture

September 13, 2021 at 07:48 am

What was he playing on Offense? Making Jordan Love look good?
No matter how bad others were or what the game plan was, Rodgers was equally so.

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bjkdad44's picture

September 12, 2021 at 08:10 pm

Bingo!

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Archie's picture

September 13, 2021 at 06:35 am

Exactly: QB12's trade value just went way down.

I agree with every word that Nags wrote.

DC looking like a dud.

Why was the run not a major part of our game plan?

Week #2 at home vs DET - a replay of this BS and it's over for the Packers in 2021 and it's over for QB12 in GB. Maybe Rodgers has "Zenned" himself into slo-mo.

Aaron Jones comment was interesting - from the inside it felt great right up until real bullets began to fly.

So the NFL North went 0-4!

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baldski's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:04 pm

It is not the DC. It is the lack of talent in the front line, Kenny and who else?

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Alberta_Packer's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:22 pm

With you. When you have Lowry and Lancaster starting on the D-line - it's going to be a long day for our DBs and even LBs.

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Bear's picture

September 12, 2021 at 11:28 pm

Hard to forget Barry was the Lions Defensive Coordinator when they went 0-16 and finished last in Defense.

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jannes bjornson's picture

September 13, 2021 at 09:06 pm

We knew the score when they kept Lowry, Lancaster, KIng and Sullivan. The forecast calls for Pain. Playesr, not Plays.

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theora's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:17 pm

How can a team and coaching staff who has been in the last 2 championship games and who is picked by a lot of people to go to the super bowl allow such a butt kicking. Nobody came to play this is the most unmotivated game i can remember in 30 years

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Swisch's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:28 pm

It's a fine edge between winning and losing.
It seems the Packers have become complacent and distracted and dull.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:48 pm

Perhaps a little Love would help?

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Duffman_44's picture

September 12, 2021 at 08:11 pm

That is punny

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PewAuKeeFan's picture

September 13, 2021 at 09:05 am

Swisch, it was NOT a fine edge between winning and losing yesterday. It was a chasm, a gorge that made the Grand Canyon look tiny.

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Coldworld's picture

September 13, 2021 at 07:52 am

LaFleur has been at his worst after by weeks. He’s shown a capability to be out thought by good coaches and issues motivating. That showed up yesterday. If Barry is really that devoid of ideas, not only will this season be long and painful, but we will really need to look hard at LaFleur’s ability to judge coaching hires.

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Bwana's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:48 pm

Loved watching most of the Defense in the game standing around pre-snap looking either bored or confused (take your pick) with hands on their hips. Real bunch of tigers there…. Not.

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bjkdad44's picture

September 12, 2021 at 08:12 pm

Like a college game I saw yesterday... players looking at their plays on their arms as the ball is snapped... lol

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SteelyPhil's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:19 pm

One of the worst games I watched the first half + one drive of

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Tundraboy's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:55 pm

One of the worst games period and I followed online. Thank god I didn’t watch it. Rodgers 0 TD, 2 Int,, Winston 5 TD 0 Int. !!! Really?? Dillon 20 yards rushing ??

Did the Packers ever have the ball?

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Tundraboy's picture

September 12, 2021 at 10:43 pm

Oh and,

QBR. Rodgers 36, Winston 130

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bjkdad44's picture

September 12, 2021 at 08:14 pm

I stopped at half... sorry to say... and don’t call me a non-fan... been a packer fan since ‘60

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Grandfathered's picture

September 13, 2021 at 10:23 pm

That's funny dad. Those of us alive watching the Pack in the 70's and 80's recognized early where that game was headed. It's a Packer thing when they screw up that badly.

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Swisch's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:20 pm

A soft and cautious and perhaps leisurely preseason did not result in the Packers having a strong and sharp and scintillating start to the regular season.

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Philarod's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:46 pm

Props for 6 adjectives in one sentence!!

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HawkPacker's picture

September 13, 2021 at 11:54 am

What do you expect when Rodger's takes zero snaps in the preseason. This happens yearly and he does start slow. Everyone, including myself, was so anxious to see Love and how well he can or can't play.

I think we need to make sure our starters are ready for the first game of the season and that means they need to play some in the preseason!

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LeotisHarris's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:21 pm

de·ba·cle
noun
a sudden and ignominious failure; a fiasco.

Special teams looked okay, so, you know, there's that.

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TarynsEyes's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:23 pm

When the Packers' SPTs are the highlight reel, there's a problem.

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LeotisHarris's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:24 pm

So, you're saying it's too soon to have the guys fitted for their Super Bowl rings?

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TarynsEyes's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:28 pm

Yes, but new O-rings for the toilets might need a sizing.

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bjkdad44's picture

September 12, 2021 at 08:15 pm

Bingo

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Wilment's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:41 pm

Spot on.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:45 pm

Bojorquez looks like a keeper.

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dobber's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:07 pm

He was the player of the game

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Wenis's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:21 pm

This was embarrassing to the sport of football. Team and coaching staff didn't even show up and it will continue next week and you can BOOK IT !

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Oppy's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:36 pm

Oh, I don't think that's gonna happen next week.

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BAMABADGER's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:52 pm

We'll see.

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bjkdad44's picture

September 12, 2021 at 08:16 pm

Methinks you might be right

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Packerfansupreme's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:21 pm

That was pathetic

I feel bad for deguara. Looks like the next Tyler eifert. Hope he gets back soon though
At least love got some reps

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Alberta_Packer's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:50 pm

We learned in high school not to lead block with your head. Deguara's injury was the result of wrong technique, Somewhat surprising, because he seems like an intelligent player.

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TarynsEyes's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:21 pm

It looked like Rodgers had the entire team doing Zen meditation and forgot that they actually needed to play the game with aggression.

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PearlyBakerBest's picture

September 12, 2021 at 08:13 pm

Can’t wait to see how you’re going to hold them accountable.

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bjkdad44's picture

September 12, 2021 at 08:17 pm

Again... Bingo!

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pacman's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:22 pm

I was waiting for the 'burn the tape' comment. How many times do we have to hear that? The entire team should have to watch this entire tape before every game. This team has done this too many times for it to be an accident.

Gee, maybe there is a point of playing some starters in preseason.

But wasn't Gute smart to pick up that punter!

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Packerfansupreme's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:32 pm

You're right definitely an improvement at the punter position

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dobber's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:10 pm

Absolutely. Don't burn this tape. Take stills and make posters and put them up in the locker rooms.

This was a team that looked cold and flat.

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HawkPacker's picture

September 13, 2021 at 11:58 am

Make them run wind sprints all week long like we used to in High School after playing poorly!

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Harold Drake's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:23 pm

Even the Italian army fought harder in WWII than the Packers played against New Orleans.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:26 pm

Now that was pretty funny Harold!

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Alberta_Packer's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:55 pm

Just for my clarification HD - was it the pre - Oct. 1943 army? Or the post Oct. army - when they switched sides?

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ck's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:24 pm

I’d hate to play for the Lions next week. #positivevibesonly

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HawkPacker's picture

September 13, 2021 at 11:59 am

That depends! We need to hear that popping sound first. You know, when you get your head out of your a$$.

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packer132's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:31 pm

Packers were not prepared and got pushed around on both sides of the line. Rodgers had little time though he sure did not look like he did last year. Play calling was poor, and have to give the Saints credit. They were motivated and flew around the ball all day. Winston looked like a decent QB, though had so much time in the pocket. The whole team lost this game.

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Oppy's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:38 pm

Lots of people saying Rodgers had no time in the pocket.

I don't think that was the case. Rodgers didn't have EXTRA time in the pocket.. but he's got to get the ball out at the top of his drop.

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dobber's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:12 pm

I agree. He had time to get the ball out on schedule.

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gvtspook's picture

September 12, 2021 at 09:41 pm

Exactly. He has always been best when he has thrown the ball in rhythm. Unfortunately he often hold out for something better instead of taking easy 4 yard pass which would keep the drive moving forward.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:59 pm

Just a minor disagreement - I'm excusing the special teams because how often does that happen with them?

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Swisch's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:44 pm

It's possible Rodgers panicked and was trying too much for long passes.
He may have done the same thing last year in the regular season loss to the Bucs.
I could be wrong, but it's something to look into.
With plenty of time in a game for a comeback, is Rodgers too rash in trying to make up the deficit too fast?
Also, how well does Rodgers keep his composure in the pocket against a fierce pass rush, and how good is he at finding open receivers?
I want to be truly fair to Rodgers, but this is a question important for the good of the whole team.
Does Rodgers at times get intimidated or impatient in hectic situations of adversity, or is it a matter of him not getting enough support from his teammates?

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Alberta_Packer's picture

September 12, 2021 at 08:45 pm

This is his form when the the game becomes too pressurized for him. He reverts to sandlot football - holding on the ball too long and targeting only certain players. He needs to be sent to remedial QB class - taught by Professor T. Brady - perfecter of the 1-2-3 drop, throw system.

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Swisch's picture

September 12, 2021 at 09:29 pm

If you're right, AP, then Rodgers has a lot to work on right now rather than getting involved in personnel and coaching.
Even when someone is great at something, he can get better -- and it's in the pressurized games that we need Rodgers to really excel.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

September 12, 2021 at 10:23 pm

I highly doubt that at his age and stage that he would be interested in a "style" makeover. If you recall, his resistance to the MLF system in Year 1. That's why I'm more excited with Love - because I believe that he's much more tractable (and suitable) to the offensive system than A.R. It's not so much that A.R. can't do it - it's just that he doesn't want to do it (which shouldn't be that surprising).

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PewAuKeeFan's picture

September 13, 2021 at 09:21 am

Spot on!

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PearlyBakerBest's picture

September 12, 2021 at 10:17 pm

Maybe it’s because he fucked off all off season.

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DougXX57's picture

September 12, 2021 at 08:06 pm

they looked soft and played soft.. we don't need no preseason games!! we're pros!!

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HankScorpio's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:24 pm

I was over it before halftime. After all the BS this of this offseason, I'm not terribly shocked by this result. I'll be curious whether this is just a stinker flat performance or a sign that this team just doesn't have what the last two versions had. We'll find out, I reckon.

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Swisch's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:48 pm

It may be a matter of choice for the Packers to make as of Monday.
Even if the Packers continue to get off to a slow start due to the way things were handled in the offseason and preseason, it's a long regular season in which there is time to turn things around.
There has to be a real dedication and determination, though.

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Nate-1980's picture

September 13, 2021 at 06:26 am

Good comment, but I know of one thing this team has that last two did.. Kevin queen, great pick up Gute..:)

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TheKanataThrilla's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:24 pm

Our punter was our MVP today.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:25 pm

Bad loss but one game!

The key will be how they play next week. If they come out smoking and dominate we will unlikely give too much thought to today's debacle. If they struggle, and/or lose there will be serious concern.

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Rebecca's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:35 pm

So there’s no use in discussing this outrageous drubbing by the post Brees Saints? Move on. The body is stinking and the flies are on it.

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PewAuKeeFan's picture

September 13, 2021 at 09:25 am

The Saints may be much better post Brees.

Brees was waaaay over-da-hill.

Winston is a former Number 1 pick for a reason. Maybe he needed the right coaching to iron out his defects and take advantage of his strengths.

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packerbackerjim's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:04 pm

Sean Payton had 6 months to game plan for this game. MLF also had the same amount of time. The Saints were physically superior today.

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Swisch's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:52 pm

. . . and just as distressing, the Saints were mentally superior today.
Alarming, yes, but I agree with Knock that it's not time to panic.

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davidhoff@mchsi.com's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:26 pm

If blame needs to be placed it should be at the feet of the person who held off the key players through training came and preseason. Hint.
it was'nt the DC.

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Rebecca's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:37 pm

Yeah! Who’s to blame here? Light the torches! LOL

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bjkdad44's picture

September 12, 2021 at 08:22 pm

Agree 100%

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Denver's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:26 pm

More like Sadie Hawkins Dance....

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CAG123's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:27 pm

I mean wtf was that?

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veteranviewer's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:27 pm

Listening to Barry talk during his press conferences in the preseason I thought he was incapable of being coherent and now I know why.

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Todd's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:27 pm

Had a feeling they might lose against the Saints. Wasn't expecting that crap show though. Pfffftttt....

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stockholder's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:28 pm

You start two Rookies. You got what you deserved! You want Rodgers gone. That will do it. Notice nobody helped him up? Forget the MVP talk- until you move people Back. What DL? Oh well, l I tried to tell you why, and you didn't listen. So lets talk something positive. Nice kick by Crosby.

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Blade's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:28 pm

The only thing missing was Mike McCarthy on the sideline in his last year.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:06 pm

Yes! Any time that A.R. has been pressurized - he reverts to McCarthy mode - taking the play clock to 0 - holding onto the ball too long - fixating on certain players - playing sandlot football etc.

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barutanseijin's picture

September 12, 2021 at 08:06 pm

McCarthy’s team played decently against Tampa, which is more than you can say for Lafleur’s crew.

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bjkdad44's picture

September 12, 2021 at 08:23 pm

Bingo

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ImaPayne's picture

September 12, 2021 at 09:14 pm

qbs look for him. he is there go to guy when you need to move the ball. thank brady for exposing him.

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PewAuKeeFan's picture

September 13, 2021 at 09:39 am

"Notice nobody helped him up".

I did not notice, but if that in fact happened, then that speaks volumes. The normal reason why nobody helps the QB up is because he's been a jerk. Not saying that's the case here... but then... very telling!

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SanLobo's picture

September 13, 2021 at 04:18 pm

I was at the game, other players helped him up.

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Chad NOTcHad's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:28 pm

Show me on the Game Tape where Kevin King hurt you!!!

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:46 pm

Um, when he loafed and gave up a deep TD?

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:56 pm

Twice.

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PewAuKeeFan's picture

September 13, 2021 at 09:41 am

How is that bad? Isn't that what King does? Can you blame him for doing what he does best?! ~~~

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ImaPayne's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:23 pm

the whole eam sucked but so did king. watch the fn film moron

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Irish_Cheesehead's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:30 pm

Bojorquez > Scott

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egbertsouse's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:31 pm

The last dance! Super Bowl season! Hahahahahahshaha! As Vic Ketchman would say, “They ate the pizza.” They believed the homer media’s press clipping and waited for the Saints to roll over for them. Gotta win them on the field boys, not in the press room.

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dobber's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:13 pm

I think this is about right.

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mdhvac's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:35 pm

Total disgrace. Smart decision not playing starters in preseason. All out of shape and not ready to play. Waste of money signing Jones and letting Lindsey walk. RB;s a dime a dozen and all pro linemen hard to find. Joe Barry is a joke and Kevin King wouldn't start at the University of Alabama.

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Packers1985's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:20 pm

This is what i spoke about Jones last year too.. All his worst performed games are against stout dlines.....starting two newbies on Oline against the top 5 defense is one of the poor choices...But no one likes to hear the truth

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DougXX57's picture

September 12, 2021 at 08:09 pm

I didn't think they should have signed Jones and as far as king? should we start calling him TOAST (where is estus hood when you need him) Hood was called toast BTW

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Doug_In_Sandpoint's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:35 pm

Worst game I’ve seen in over a decade. No energy, no creativity. Totally unprepared and outplayed. Jenkins was MVP on the strength of his two tackles during interception returns.

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dobber's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:15 pm

You're forgetting Tampa in the regular season last year...San Diego and San Fran (twice) the year before...

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Packers1985's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:22 pm

Now we can officially say we suck playing in both calif and florida...

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PatrickGB's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:34 pm

No, this looked worse.

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murf7777's picture

September 12, 2021 at 08:03 pm

They were actually in the San Fran playoff game for awhile, but your right on about the Chargers and the 49’s regular season game. How soon people forget.

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Lphill's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:36 pm

Lefluer can't get this team up for a road game . Heflin was the star of pre season on defense , inactive .

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UGDR's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:50 pm

Meanwhile Lowry looked like garbage.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

September 12, 2021 at 09:16 pm

I believe that's just regular season form for him.

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rstain99's picture

September 12, 2021 at 08:05 pm

the front seven other than Clark is junk King is a stiff cut him right away sorry should have looked at TB film again before they signed him back. Taking preseason off big mistake too busy reading their press clippings. New DC same terrible defense, long season ahead tough schedule. Ouch!

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bjkdad44's picture

September 12, 2021 at 08:27 pm

An someone explain why??

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gkarl's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:40 pm

I got nothing. Just like the Pack today.

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Nate-1980's picture

September 13, 2021 at 06:37 am

Hahaha that was a good one ha

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Since'61's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:41 pm

We’re off to a flying stop!
I don’t think that I have seen the Packers look this bad since the 70s. Pathetic, embarrassing, disgraceful performance.

The team was totally unprepared to play on both sides of the ball.

On the positive side, we don’t have to deal with the pressure of remaining undefeated as the season goes on.

Burn the tape. Start over next week. Thanks, Since ‘61

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Lphill's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:02 pm

No they need to watch this game tape everyday for the season.

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WinUSA's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:04 pm

“We’re off to a flying stop!” Lol… Now THAT’s a classic!!!!!

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DougXX57's picture

September 12, 2021 at 08:11 pm

I remember the lynn Dickey days... 8-8 and nothing great!!! at least if they don't pick it up they can't go 8-8 since we had to add another game to make the league great again!

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bjkdad44's picture

September 12, 2021 at 08:28 pm

9-8

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Slim11's picture

September 12, 2021 at 08:15 pm

I told my wife I didn't remember a game this bad going back to 1970 when the Lions beat Green Bay 40-0 in that seaon opener. Bart Starr was the starter in that one.

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Since'61's picture

September 12, 2021 at 10:42 pm

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bjkdad44's picture

September 12, 2021 at 08:28 pm

I usually agree with you... but on this one... they need to see the tape in their sleep!

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jhtobias's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:42 pm

Been telling people all summer you can make Rodgers play green bay or nowhere but the man's heart is no longer playing in Green Bay .. You can't force someone to lead your team that doesn't want to be their.. Your management choose this path live with it .. Lower your expectations maybe 8 wins is a victory play the kid this is not even close to a championship team ..

Trade Davante he is not coming back , not sure what Rodgers cap situation is but damn the man does not want to be here ..

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Cwilly's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:55 pm

Yeah he doesn’t want to be here when he still played made bad decisions this game but tried. The deep ball was awful but we have no oline. Defense is awful same story for a decade and that’s it. If love is the answer trade Rodgers so he gets a ring and rebuild our defense cuz that’s been a problem that isn’t getting better. This team won’t beat Tampa or the niners so might as well maximize the rebuild before it’s too late. But even with love this isn’t getting better till the d and oline are fixed and Kevin king is complete garbage and can’t believe he makes 5 mill to be so awful.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:14 pm

Well I'm not sure that he's totally checked out of GB this season. But he was certainly MIA in Jacksonville.

4 points
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splitpea1's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:42 pm

Hats off to Sean Payton and DC Allen for having their teams as well-prepared and ready to execute as possible--after all they've been through lately. As for MLF, this isn't the first time the team hasn't seemed ready to play.

I give credit to others here who correctly pointed out that the OL may have some problems to start; I thought we'd be okay.

26-6, 28-8: Doesn't mean squat anymore, it's a new season.

Deguara: Can't seem to make it through a game, unfortunately.

Gute was/is delusional if he actually thinks, as he stated a few months ago, that we have the makings of a "dominant defense." The DL can't be pushed backwards or aside; NO sacks and ONE pass defended (by Stokes) ??? Holy crap!... Kevin King--I know it's early, but I'm thinking why even bother? Keep him on the sidelines.

ZDS non-sack: So is the NFL really worth watching, anyway? Nothing remotely illegal....It's called FOOTBALL, not PUSSBALL.

No need to wallow in the mire any further; they should be able to handle the Lions, shouldn't they?

15 points
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pacman's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:50 pm

If we can't handle them, the season and this team is toast.

Detroit put up 33 points on SF. Hmmm.

5 points
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dobber's picture

September 12, 2021 at 08:45 pm

San Francisco stopped playing.

1 points
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dobber's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:18 pm

"ZDS non-sack: So is the NFL really worth watching, anyway? Nothing remotely illegal."

It LOOKED too violent...he popped Winston a good--and legal--one. I don't know if the pick would've held up to review, but there was still time to do something at that point if it did.

4 points
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Rossonero's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:42 pm

I'm trying to remember the last time the Packers opened a season looking THAT FUCKING BAD. Are they done reading the press clippings? Are they done listening to the pundits? Time to put their heads down, turn off the TVs, get off their phones and GET TO WORK.

I was expecting some rust given the lack of pre-season game action but that was JV shit - by the players, by the coaching staff, everyone. Give the game ball to our punter, because that's about the only bright spot for today.

It's easy when things are going well. Now like LaFleur said, we'll find out what this team is really made of. It's time to put up, or shut up. And it starts Monday morning - EARLY.

9 points
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Irish_Cheesehead's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:08 pm

The worst opening loss since a 40-0 defeat against the Detroit Lions to open the 1970 season. Just sad.

4 points
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Rossonero's picture

September 12, 2021 at 09:06 pm

My God. I wasn't alive yet then, so that explains why I don't remember it. Nevertheless, we got our asses whipped and more than a slice of humble pie today. I know we lost by 20 to Seattle in the 2014 season -- and started 1-2 -- and we saw how that team responded. I can only hope that the team responds similarly...this period without Bakhtiari is going to be critical.

2 points
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DougXX57's picture

September 12, 2021 at 08:14 pm

Crosby kicked well!!! other than that.. it is time to put up OR shut up! I agree!!! Adams wants 30 million a year? for what? Rogers wants more money and control of decisions? for what? stop listening to the BS and work to make this a great team because today you looked like an 8th grade team playing a senior team.. IT WAS WORSE THAN BAD

4 points
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zerotolerance's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:42 pm

Nothing but a bunch of kittens.

6 points
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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:44 pm

The Saints offensive line simply beat the Packers front 6 consistently and thoroughly. The Packers secondary wasn't the problem.

The Saints defensive line whipped the Packers offensive line. Jenkins wasn't as good as Bakh, Patrick wasn't as good as LG Jenkins, Myers wasn't as good as Linsley, Newman (crap, didn't really notice him which ruins my narrative) and Turner not as good as Wagner.

Saints doubled Adams most of the day, and often shaded help towards MVS. Nothing doing vertically even if AR had time. Short stuff handled by the Saints excellent ILBs, Demario Davis and kwon Alexander.

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stockholder's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:21 pm

Jenkins did better when Lewis came in. But why not put Newman outside? Where The TE can help him and keep the Vets at Guard? Until Myers get better. There rushing Newman and he's No Jenkins. I say put him at RT.

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Swisch's picture

September 12, 2021 at 08:07 pm

It did seem as though the receivers couldn't get open against the Saints, and I'm wondering what happened.
Was there something intermediate between the short passes and long passes that could have been open with different play calling?
Could there have been more motion before the plays, more misdirection during the plays?
Did Rodgers start throwing the ball too deep too often too early, or was he frustrated by a lack of open receivers open on the shorter routes?
What adjustments could have been made at halftime?
I'm stumped as to how thoroughly our offense was stuffed.
I'm hoping for some good commentary this week from good fans such as you, TGR, to help detect what went wrong, and how it can get better.

2 points
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NickPerry's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:01 pm

That was just aweful...

I'm not sure HOW Royce Newman was named the starter but I saw several plays where his man went right through him.

So much for thinking those rookies on the O-Line would do just fine run blocking. Jesus, they couldn't block a bit today...PERIOD.

That was Jamis Winston throwing 5 TD's right? UGH!!!!

There wasn't one positive from that game, not one. I feel sorry for all those Packers fans who paid big money for a chance to see their team play and watched that...SHIT!

Good news... I don't see how it's possible to go anywhere but up.

Oh, hey Matt...PLEASE dust off a few new tricks you worked on all winter perhaps next Monday against Detroit because I saw NOTHING remotely creative or new today.

OMG...Could Barry POSSIBLY be worse than Mike Pettine or Dom Capers... Stay tuned Packers fans.

Lets bounce back Monday Night against the Lowly Lions who by the way showed more heart than that mega payroll team called the Packers.

14 points
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stockholder's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:09 pm

Newman never was ready. He is not a Guard. Patrick was going to get cut. Turner was to far out. Myers never got dirty. The Lions will expose this OL too. Until Jenkins and Turner, end back up at guard. The MLF offense will fail. Because they lost Linsley. And Myers needs help.

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NickPerry's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:25 pm

What about Dennis Kelly at RT? That may help a bit but I can't believe they were THAT bad.

0 points
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stockholder's picture

September 12, 2021 at 08:28 pm

Turner must move again. so maybe.

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CHEESEHEADDALLAS's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:46 pm

The first thing that needs to happen Monday is fire everyone in the front office and get a new dc now

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Oppy's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:49 pm

What did the front office do?
The DC was MLF's hire.

1 points
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Cwilly's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:05 pm

They fielded the worst d in the league besides Alexander and Clark what does Green Bay have. That’s what I’d like to know at this point. Trading Rodgers makes sense now cuz the d isn’t getting and won’t get better. Love being a dilfer would work if they stacked the d and Rodgers playing on a team better then this would get him another ring. All around good for all involved but this team isn’t play off or super bowl material they lack linebackers and a d line. And the oline is awful now with an all star center and bakhtairi not playing. Jenkins is the only bright spot and why pay jones if you can’t block. The reality is we had an easy schedule the last two years and it’s not gonna be that way this year so either rebuild your d and oline or lose. Rodgers isn’t the problem but if all want to say he is fix your d with a trade and start love. Their are enough teams like the bucs where a qb gets them a ring so get what you need to be competitive before it’s too late.

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Oppy's picture

September 12, 2021 at 10:37 pm

DL isn't horrible, but they need better at DE. Clark is a beast. KeKe started coming on last season a bit. Not sure about Slaton, hopeful, but DL takes a while to come into their own. I like Heflin as a project.
Strong at OLB.
Jaire is great and hopefully Stokes comes into his own down the road, hard to tell who King is- is he the worst starting DB in the league like he looked in 2020, or is he the highest rated RZ defender in the league like he was in 2019? Either way, he's not being used correctly- he's a press man corner. They have to let him jam guys at the LOS.
Safety is a strong starting tandem with Amos and Savage.
ILB is clearly the achilles heel. It's just non-existent.

Rodgers is the most talented QB in the league, but he does create problems when he tries to be the hero and thinks he's better than the system. I agree, when Rodgers gets traded, hopefully you can build the D. This offense has the personnel and scheme to compete and win while a young QB develops within it.

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HarryHodag's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:59 pm

Please, no one is getting fired tonight. But at the end of the year if this keeps up Gute should do what Ron Wolf did after one year of Ray Rhodes: fire them all and start over.

6 points
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CHEESEHEADDALLAS's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:46 pm

The first thing that needs to happen Monday is fire everyone in the front office and get a new dc now

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Packerjeff's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:46 pm

Locker room is poison
Thank you AR/Adam’s

6 points
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Oppy's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:49 pm

I hope that's not the case.

2 points
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NickPerry's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:03 pm

Man me too Oppy, me too.

0 points
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Buckywunder's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:10 pm

Yep.

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KurtMc's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:46 pm

QB1 shows no emotion, leadership. Body language says it all. On the Saints side Winston was talking to staff, looking at plays - Aaron, nothing. Like to hear some comments from changing the play & throwing the 2nd INT.

King - what a complete waste.

Entire D looked lost & confused.

Thought Joe Buck made a good point - those game changing penalties should be reviewed. That was a B.S. call for a sound football play.

Hope the Bears bomb tonight. - Go Pack

4 points
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HarryHodag's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:58 pm

If the Bears lose tonight all four North teams lost today.

2 points
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mbpacker's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:40 pm

Though to hope the Bears loose to make us feel better so all the division teams lost. Of course, I hope they do.

1 points
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Oppy's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:47 pm

1) That was an utter embarrassment that resulted from a lack of minicamp/OTAs and preseason playtime from the offense, and a defense that has a new coach and somewhat of a new system, but had no real improvement in personnel - that also didn't play starters too much during the preseason.

2) Lack of commitment to the run game didn't make things any easier.

3) I fully expect this to be an anomaly on the offensive side of the ball. Rodgers needs to get his shit together and get the ball out on time. We've seen this before in this offense. It needs to be executed in rhythm. That did not happen with exception to the last drive of the first half, in which it appeared Rodgers was running his own plays from the LOS, but at least he was getting rid of the ball in time. Offensive Line play was not nearly as bad as the knee jerk commentary is making it out to be.

4) The defense? We'll see. They started the game looking good defending the run, but quickly fell apart. Same old bugaboo for this defense- great coverage early leads to a confused and disjointed attempt to re-focus on a QB who breaks out of the pocket an runs the ball. Everything fell apart after that.

5) This isn't an indicator of the season to be, so long as Rodgers reacts proactively as opposed to defensively to this shit show of an opener. Go pack.

6 points
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Cwilly's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:13 pm

Once again you blame Rodgers for the game and I get it he was awful but doesn’t change how bad the d and oline are as well. Either the packers trade him to make a real defense or just another wasted season. Love with a d could be that but this team won’t stand a chance at Tampa and San Fran if they field the same piss poor oline and defense. Rodgers will get better but you can’t change the flaws this team has and it’s obvious now. Saints brought 4 all night and still got pressure. And the Green Bay defense still gives up fourth down as always. They also made Winston look like a hall of famer without running the ball and Michael Thomas. Your points are correct but the front office needs to do something now before they have no options left and no future of fielding a collective team.
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2 points
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Oppy's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:21 pm

You seem to miss something here- I blame Rodgers for what he's responsible for, and that's on the offensive side of the ball.

The Defense was atrocious. So was the Offense.

On offense, the OL wasn't as bad as many are claiming IMO. Rodgers needs to get the ball out of his hands on time. That's his job. After 2.5-3 seconds, it's not a failure of the OL if the pocket starts to collapse. Passing plays are supposed to be complete by that point.

Staying balanced on offense, also part of Rodgers' job, since most plays are RPOs or have built in checks to run.

Rodgers WILL be traded after this year, it is impossible to sustain his salary and field a winning team, especially after the cap reduction.

3 points
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Cwilly's picture

September 12, 2021 at 08:38 pm

He’s not under contract after this year pretty much and can control what happens. He will be traded but would be wise to do it sooner with his value then wait. If love is the future then now would be better then latter to fix the d and all the holes on this team. It’s week one but this is talent and the packers lack it. And he was awful today but the line was just as bad doesn’t mean him doing what he did justifies it but he’s not the entire problem right now. As for the defense it’s the same story every year a couple star players on D and the rest are garbage. And maybe the 3-4 is the problem with the talent on the d but it’s getting old watching the same crappy d every year play. It’s one game but I don’t see the d getting better. And new coordinator bragged about is worse than Capers which I never thought could happen. Your points to an extent are correct but I still think this is beyond Rodgers. He was awful but he doesn’t play defense either or block. Packers had an easy schedule 2 years straight and when they play a good d they always get blown out. This team has a lot of holes and maybe when Rodgers is gone i they can fix them with his cap space back and value in trade. I just think this isn’t anomaly and could be a long season.

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Wilment's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:49 pm

WOW. Theres a smell emanating from Jacksonville that smells like the New Jersey turnpike in august. Somewhere between rotting eggs, a dead body, and burnt dog hair. Rodgers looked like a guy that hasn't touched a ball in a year, wide outs couldn't get separation if they'd been carrying crow bars, o line looked slow with the exception of Jenkins(you want to throw somebody money next year, hes the guy), running backs were just that, running into the backs of the o line. Defense played soft, Kevin king hasn't gotten better giving his 10 yard cushions, the only good thing that happened was nullified by a poor penalty call. Coaches outreached, team out played. This sucked. Been a fan since sixty four, but the way we played today wasnt as good as the teams of the 70s and 80s. Nuff said. GOPACKGO!

9 points
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Thegravedigger's picture

September 12, 2021 at 08:01 pm

id say kevin king getting burnt by deonte harris was a good thing that happened. it looked exactly like the scotty miller td before the half. its a good thing because it could be the last of kevin king as a starter.

2 points
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Oppy's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:51 pm

I was surprised there wasn't any outrage from the Packers fan contingency that full-out blasted Hundley for being so brash as to dare chew gum on the sideline while the Packers were losing, when Rodgers was shown on Natl broadcast smiling and joking with Davante on the sidelines as Love was strapping up to take the field early in the 4th Q.

6 points
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EddieLeeIvory's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:51 pm

The only thing that REALLY matters in week ONE are injuries. See New England 2008, Tom Brady.

But hotdam, sure looks like Kaaron Rodgers was trying to kill his trade value....

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HarryHodag's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:07 pm

I smoked a cigar with Eddie Lee Ivory one night outside the Carlton West in Green Bay. Nice guy.

4 points
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HarryHodag's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:02 pm

No reason to panic at this point, but this game was eerily reminiscent of the 1980's Packers. The team then often looked lost and was beaten in every aspect of the game.
Matt LaFleur has much for which he needs to be held accountable. The first decision is to not play the starters at all in pre-season. This was their pre-season game and they looked like it. I've been carping on this for a month and Troy Aikman basically made the same point. Four starters on the offensive line are either in positions they haven't played in awhile while others are rookies. All the more reason to have them play in the pre-season.
When the pass game wasn't going, MLF, like Mike McCarthy, simply stopped running the football. They just paid Jones a lot of money to run the ball and he was on the sidelines most of the day. That's on MLF.

I have had misgivings about the Joe Barry hire. This defense looked bewildered all day. That is on Barry. He came to Green Bay with a lousy history, but apparently perfomance means little, all you have to be is a friend of Matt's. Again, one game, but this defense looked too much like the lousy Packer defenses in the 80's.

I haven't seen play calling this bad in three decades. And what is it with going on fourth down in your own territory? High school teams know better than that. That's on MLF. I'm also wondering if Rodgers was changing the plays at the line. Something really stunk.

The Saints were ready on both sides of the ball and I'm impressed with their coaching and strength along both offensive and defensive lines.

One more point: there are folks who think that you need #1 picks to be great receivers. The Saints played with UFA's at the receiver position today. Didn't stop them an ounce.

Again, I'm not making conclusions on things until we see a couple more games.

I'm glad I didn't buy tickets or plane fare for the Super Bowl

10 points
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dobber's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:31 pm

"One more point: there are folks who think that you need #1 picks to be great receivers. The Saints played with UFA's at the receiver position today. Didn't stop them an ounce."

They had the game salted away before they really used them, too. The Saints only had two plays from scrimmage of more than 15 yards the entire game...one of the two went for 17. The Saints won by grinding out drives with their OL and by forcing stops with their defense. TWO 15-play drives in one half? OMG!!!

There were 6 total possessions in the first half. Just 6. Saints had 3 possessions in the first half and scored 17 points. The Packers had 3 and scored...3.

4 points
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Swisch's picture

September 12, 2021 at 08:23 pm

Is Rodgers willing to play more like Winston if it helps the Packers to win?
I think Winston had less than 100 yards passing through three quarters; and even after his long touchdown throw, less than 150 for the game.
I really don't know the answer about Rodgers.
My concern, however, is whether or not Rodgers is willing to take the short and unspectacular plays if that's the best way to win?

1 points
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Oppy's picture

September 12, 2021 at 10:45 pm

You know the answer to this if you've watched Rodgers play QB for the last 6 years.

1 points
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Tundraboy's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:33 pm

80s Packers had more heart than the team that played today.

3 points
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Buckywunder's picture

September 12, 2021 at 06:56 pm

HUGE mistake not to trade 12 during the off-season.

Know it’s easy to say this is an overreaction for one game but I felt this every day after June 1…

6 points
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Shinesman's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:07 pm

how is he supposed to throw the ball with zero time and weak WRs who cant get any separation?

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Oppy's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:24 pm

Rodgers had lots of time and failed to deliver the ball on numerous downs.

I refuse to go down the "WRs weren't open" path again during another season. Every other QB in the league throws to WRs who have similar coverage on them. On Rodgers' big drive to end the first half, he was throwing the ball to WRs just as covered as they were during the rest of the game. The difference? He was throwing to them on time, as they entered their breaks, without hesitation.

4 points
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Cwilly's picture

September 12, 2021 at 08:03 pm

Cuz he’s the problem didn’t you know even though the d is awful and the oline. Packer land think love is the next Rodgers so we can’t say it’s the awful d or the offensive line that can’t block. We paid jones and what’s point with that line they block nothing. If Rodgers is the problem trade him remake your holes and start love but we don’t see that from the front office which speaks volumes of what Love must be at qb. Makes no sense to any logical fan. If he’s the next qb what are they waiting for switch and get something out of it.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

September 14, 2021 at 09:25 am

That is the whole point you are missing Shinesman! An NFL team cannot have so much cap money tied up into one player. If you do the surrounding cast is weak. The Packers need to trade Rodgers and Adam's for better linemen, and IL. They do and the Packers will be a stronger team.

I hope people are starting to notice Love and his play. I think he has the talent and composure to be a very good QB. Just surround him with very good OL, and a running game.

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ImaPayne's picture

September 12, 2021 at 09:22 pm

i honestly think no one wanted him. too old too costly. cant tell me gb didn't have feelers out. this love fest is bs they want him gone, money is the issue?

1 points
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CoachDino's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:02 pm

best thing i saw today was this comment board....i dont want to hear about the line, the core issues on o, ar needs to play better mentaly and phyiscaly, play calling....once againabandoned the run, whats with the spread offense? someone had alot of faith in this ol to keep doing it. we keep calling for run stuffers yet our edge refuses to contain when bounced outside . ar looks old, give credit to no coaching staff......winston made plays with his arm but his decision making and legs were daggers...

3 points
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Thegravedigger's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:58 pm

no edge contain you are absolutely right. z and prestons first season they were very good at holding the edge. now, all of that discipline is lost because they are desperate to just make a play. just like clay and nick perry before them.

1 points
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NitschkeFromTheGrave's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:03 pm

I warned and warned and warned about the Defense, now I only can wish that I was wrong.

And.....

That Sucking Sound ??????

That's Aaron Rogers Head Deflating...

7 points
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Rebecca's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:34 pm

LOL!

1 points
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rstain99's picture

September 13, 2021 at 12:11 pm

Kenny Clark and Jaire Alexander then the rest of the defense basically sucks, kept hearing MLF wanted the defense to fly to the ball on defense how did that work out. Lancaster and the other stiff tackle name escapes me just are not NFL players. Gary soon he is going to dominate been hearing that for 3 years not a great pick. Tell mister King I hope he saved some of that contract as his time is nearing an end the light has not gone on totally lost. New DC looked overmatched 8-9 if this continues AR going to get his wish never had sack of Favre (tons of interceptions) but never die mentality. Long season coming all you brat pounders makes for long winter as well.

0 points
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mjbrogno's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:05 pm

Aaron: I could not have said it any clearer. Yes, it’s only one game, but something tells me that this is the start of an awful season. I’m a firm believer in karma and with all the BS during the off-season it just feels like we’re in for a horrible year. The defense had no gap control. Starting the two rookies on the OL will definitely cause problems all year. The first pick by Mr. Diva was because of the whiff block by Newsome on Jordan. There is nothing positive about this game, just another clunker from a coaching staff that is not capable of being prepared to play on the road, I,e., both 49er games in 2019 and charger game in 2019, not good.

7 points
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Thegravedigger's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:57 pm

i think this team needs a leader. they dont have a reggie white or a charles woodson. they have guys who are more passive and less vocal. im not sure this team holds each other accountable the way a true championship team should. im only an outside guy looking in, but does a true leader stand out to you? laflueur is a great mind i believe, and i think he is also a great manager of people and egos. but he is not the kind of coach who is going to give a great half time speech and hold these guys accountable. with that being said, they are grown men, and they should be holding each other accountable. but since it looks like from the outside they are not, then lafluer or somebody else has to do it, or at least inspire one of the players to be better at it. because these guys today looked like a bunch of jags working on the railroad. no emotion, just punching a clock.

2 points
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Doug_In_Sandpoint's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:07 pm

For a few hours the Bears will be in first place in the North. Hope they enjoy their 15 minutes of fame.

2 points
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Badacidtrip's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:10 pm

What a shocking and hugely disappointing performance in pretty much every aspect of the game. Like you Nagler, I have no interest in seeing the tape again, but I certainly hope the Packers coaches and players study and analyze it carefully.

2 points
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saltandpeppers's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:13 pm

"Where was all the motion? The jet sweep action?" But Aaron, then our QB couldn't take the play-clock down to zero in order to make a useless audible. Seriously, anytime the game plan looks stale, blame Rodgers, not the HC/OC. Rodgers wants max control, which means minimum play design. Same was true under McCarthy as well.

4 points
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PatrickGB's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:32 pm

He is trying to figure our what the defense is. He always puts a lot of stock in that. He gets messed up when it is disguised.

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crayzpackfan's picture

September 13, 2021 at 04:32 pm

Rodgers has never met a play clock that he couldn’t run down to zero

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Shinesman's picture

September 12, 2021 at 07:17 pm

First, stop blaming Rodgers. He had zero protection. He had receivers who couldnt get any separation. Hell, Adams even quit early on a couple routes.

Second, this is what happens when you dont play your starters in preseason, period. End of discussion.

Third, the Saints were missing so many player from last year and they looked like Superbowl contenders against our un prepaired team.

Fourth, this team was, yet again, completely mentally unprepaired.

Fifth, people mocked the thought of getting real talent at WR. Guess it wasn't so stupid was it.

Sixth, everyone on God's green earth has been saying we need a real DL aside from Clark, and real MLBs. I guess the FO still wont see a reason to invest.

Seventh, what an aweful gameplan. Almost zero running or PA passing. Just terrible.

Eighth, Joe Barry. Wow. This defense somehow looks worst its ever been in the last 10 years.

Ninth, for anyone who has the gall to make comments to people like... "iF yOu tHiNk YoU CoULd Do BeTTEr AS GM, wHy dOnT You ApPLy?....." Well, the packers clearly just hire old buddies. Thats how most of the office and coaches are still employed. Also, I think most fans have proven they could make better positions.

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Cwilly's picture

September 12, 2021 at 08:17 pm

Best comment of the day and all the hype about the how deep at receiver we are and how the d coordinator will light a fire proves nothing has changed after this game. Plus how outstanding our rookies are on the oline have been in the preseason really showed it was preseason. Great post said everything I saw from this game and more.

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Packers1985's picture

September 12, 2021 at 09:29 pm

Our Oline is a mess ....We are playing two guards as tackles and two newbies on the line..The patch work only works when there are experienced guys in oline around where we have only 2 . Agreed Arod played poorly too but half of the blame goes to Oline and rest half between lafluer and Rodgers

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