Gut Reactions: Packers beat Bears

Aaron's gut reactions from the Packers win over the Bears 

  • Maybe winning ugly IS their identity
  • It's like MVS is allergic to the ball
  • Why you would ever throw a WR screen toward Jaire's side is beyond me. Guy is absolutely tenacious when it comes to breaking those up.
  • Does this team practice any kind of hurry up offense? 
  • The Packers offensive line couldn't block the Bears in pass pro in Week 1 and today they pretty much stoned them.
  • Thank the pressure from Za'Darius on that Lowry interception
  • Magical things happen when Aaron Jones has the ball in his hands. 
  • What in the hell was Rodgers doing diving head first on 3rd and long? 
  • Rodgers zeroing in on his best buddy Graham to the detriment to other possible options drives me to drink
  • When Savage starts holding on to those interceptions... 
  • It is beyond time for Kumerow to get more snaps
  • Nice to see Gary get another sack. He had a good game overall. 
  • I think I aged 15 years during the 4th quarter 
  • Go Pack Go 
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dobber's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:18 pm

I'll take it.

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Tarynfor12's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:20 pm

The win ' ugly ' contest will come to end in ugly fashion.

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:40 pm

You can't enjoy beating the Bears in our 200th game and during the 100th season? In a year I never thought we'd do better than about 8-8, this is a great day.

Whatever happens in the next few weeks, this has been a great bounce-back season after 2017 and 2018. No need to predict the next loss today.

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Tarynfor12's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:55 pm

I'm enjoying very much but that doesn't keep from from evaluating the game, no or more than the writer of this article.

Is Nagler not mentioning bad with good while enjoying the game?

Get off the high horse syndrome you suffer from and enjoy the games how however you wish.

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PeteK's picture

December 15, 2019 at 05:40 pm

Nagler mixes in some comedy and ends with Go Pack Go. You instead are waiting for the end. Taryn Mush, get in the bathroom( recognize the movie). LOL

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Adorabelle's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:44 pm

No one thinks this team is a finished product. I am not sure why people treat this rebuilding team like its a win or its a failure team.

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packerbackerjim's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:46 pm

More like a win AND a failure! For right or wrong.

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NJMagic's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:52 pm

Why do you continue to post your negativity? I find it hard to imagine anyone appreciates empty negative posts with zero insightful critiques.

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packerbackerjim's picture

December 15, 2019 at 05:12 pm

I think you’ve misread my post, if your comment was directed to me.

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PeteK's picture

December 15, 2019 at 05:42 pm

Are you talking to me!

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NJMagic's picture

December 15, 2019 at 06:59 pm

Not @ you Jim!!

At Taryn.

All doom, gloom, half empty with nothing substantive.

I imagine if we win the SB this year, she'll tell us that it's only one SB and the team has a lot of flaws that is all Management's fault and that we are wasting the golden years of her fandom

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lucky953's picture

December 15, 2019 at 11:28 pm

Why do you care?

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Jonathan Spader's picture

December 15, 2019 at 11:03 pm

Aaron Rodgers really hurt the Packer offense trying to do too much and failing. 3 times he took a sack and pushed us out of field goal range. What's going on with offensive halftime adjustments? Every single week we we sputter offensively in the 2nd half.

Edit: Really didn't think I'd have to spell out by 2nd half I'm obviously referring to after the 1st 2 drives in the 3rd quarter. You know EVERY OTHER drive after that... I just want to see the Packers run out the clock... literally.

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dobber's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:23 pm

Didn't they come out and score TDs on their first two drives in the second half?

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:53 pm

Yes. 14 big fat points. GB's offense has been good in spurts all year.

AR had negative passing yards (IIRC - I am pretty sure) starting at 6:49 in the 3rd quarter.

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ottscay's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:27 pm

Did you watch the 3rd quarter?

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Jonathan Spader's picture

December 15, 2019 at 11:04 pm

Did you watch the 2nd half of the third and the entire 4th?

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Lare's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:36 pm

The Packers gained 139 yards and scored 14 points over just 10 plays to start the second half.

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Gort's picture

December 15, 2019 at 05:41 pm

Yes, then did very little for the rest of the game. It allowed the Bears to stay in the game, as has been their MO for much of the season.

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Rak47's picture

December 16, 2019 at 01:12 am

Then followed that up with 9 yards on the next 18 plays with 5 three and outs. If the second half consisted of just 8 minutes the Packers offense would've won for best second half performance of the year.

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jannes bjornson's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:54 pm

When your pass pro is Jones getting driven back into Rodgers' lap or Lindsley bullrushed into your escape lane with all your WRs covered in the most absurd route selections on a 3rd and 4, 3rd and five, etc. You tend to get sacked.

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Irish_Cheesehead's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:22 pm

Last hair on my head turned gray today. We need to draft offense for once next spring.

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badaxed's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:35 pm

We need to draft a quarterback for the future as Rodgers has clearly shown he has lost it. time to replace the prima donna.

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GVPacker's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:45 pm

The Packers need WR's that can catch the ball when it's thrown to them, And a play making Tight End would be an immense help! Kudos to Jake Kumerow for that catch and run, Praise The Lord!

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PeteK's picture

December 15, 2019 at 05:49 pm

Praise the lord and pass the ammunition,, I mean the ball to Jones, LOL

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Archie's picture

December 16, 2019 at 06:31 am

That is exactly what I have been thinking for most of the season. If we had another legit WR (or two) and a TE, contributing to the offense throughout the game, this offense wouldn't be as inconsistent as it is. Rodgers, Adams and Jones are not the problem. Neither is the OL.

I thought all three units started the game extra sharp, except for MVS who may have written his obit in GB with that horrific inability to catch a perfectly thrown ball. Yes, we should have scored more first half points. The 2nd half started out well too. Then we went into a 20+ min offensive funk to finish the game. I'd like to hear MLF address what he thinks caused that. W/o Lowry's amazing INT, who knows if we even hang on to win that game.

The stat that amazes me most is our North Div record this year compared to last: undefeated this year and winless last year. Tells you everything you need to know about McCarthy having to go.

I'm hearing Dalvin Cook may not play Monday night. Will be a tough road game nonetheless. Time for pass rush and pass defense to step up.

Good news is we have 2 chances to win division. And we are still quite healthy.

Hoping for the BYE!

ARCHIE

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jlc1's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:28 pm

Defiinitely. Why Rodgers keeps throwing the ball onto the hands of his wide receivers is way beyond me. Definitely need a QB that puts the ball behind them or over them or somewhere other than their hands.

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Oppy's picture

December 15, 2019 at 11:15 pm

Over the course of this season, Rodgers has put far too many balls behind or short of his receivers in the dirt. Hitting a WR in stride has not been par for the course in 2019.

I won't go so far as to say Rodgers' talent has diminished to the point where he needs to be replaced, but on a game-to-game basis, he's clearly not the elite passer he has been in the past.

To me, the talent is still there, but the resistance to play within a system is what has me ready to draft the QB of the future- Ideally, I'd like to see Rodgers replaced within the next 2-3 seasons.

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NickPerry's picture

December 16, 2019 at 03:55 am

As usual an excellent observation IMO Oppy. I too think the talent is there but he still tries to do it his way too many times during a game.

BUT...This team desperately NEEDS some WR talent on this team. MVS may mot even be on this team next season with the way he's played this season. They need AT LEAST 2 in the upcoming draft PLUS a FA addition.

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Oppy's picture

December 16, 2019 at 06:49 pm

losing ESB prior to the season was a huge hit.
I still feel he is going to be a player.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:54 pm

No need to give us any updates on any other areas of your body.

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Lphill's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:23 pm

Typical Packers Bears , wasted some good field position , Gary had a nice burst in the sack , gotta cover the middle better.

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jannes bjornson's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:59 pm

Tramon lost more than a step now with the missed play on the ball for a pick six and two near misses. Alexander again dropping, mis-playing a ball that could have been the late TD to Riley?? What the hell is being done to clean up the BBs technique??. A Miller killing them all day with Amos and Martinez letting him roam free. Burks, clearly a bust.

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flackcatcher's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:19 pm

On that field. Seriously.. Both teams DB did well to keep their balance. Williams was position on the play, but for his footwork. He had to fight to keep in position to even have a chance for a knock down. He did tackle to limit to a short gain after the catch. There is something wrong with turf... Williams has lost nothing.

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Gman1976's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:24 pm

Love beating the Bears, but hate how the offense just disappears for long stretches and hate the prevent defense rushing just 3 guys.

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egbertsouse's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:26 pm

Rodgers outplayed by Trubisky and they still win the game. Who'd a thunk it?

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CAG123's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:39 pm

Rodgers took care of the ball Mitch didn't Rodgers made enough big plays early Mitch didn't don't get lost in passing yardage. Rodgers played better but that's not saying much.

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HankScorpio's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:27 pm

QB rating said Rodgers was better, 78 to 65. OTOH, QB rating doesn't account for bad sacks taken and Rodgers had at least 2 of them.

They both stunk. I can't decide which one stunk less.

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Kyle Graham's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:54 pm

Trubisky threw 2 picks. He didn’t out play Rodgers.

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mbpacker's picture

December 15, 2019 at 07:06 pm

Yeah, but Mitch had a passer rating in the 60's and missed easy throws.

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ottscay's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:26 pm

It's Gary's second sack of the season. This one was a genuinely nice move though.

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Gort's picture

December 15, 2019 at 08:33 pm

14 games into a 16 game season and our 12th overall draft pick and supposed pass rush specialist finally got his 2nd sack. Your comment about it being a nice move is correct and would be worthy of an up vote had it occurred before week 5. No offense intended to you ottscay, but Gary's play has been a major disappointment.

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Oppy's picture

December 15, 2019 at 11:24 pm

Gary's play has been pretty good if you actually watch him play as opposed to read the stat sheet after the game.

He's clearly young and still developing, but the biggest thing limiting Gary in 2019 is the fact that to put him in the game you're taking out Preston or Z'darius Smith.. I don't know about you, but I'm not taking either one of them out any more than necessary with the way they've played this year.

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Archie's picture

December 16, 2019 at 06:37 am

Why not play Gary at ILB where we have nothing?

Clay Matthews would should have been re-signed to play ILB.

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jannes bjornson's picture

December 16, 2019 at 10:55 am

Exactly where he is Not playing for the Rams. He is an Edge rusher who still gets beat in space by RBs and TEs.

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Oppy's picture

December 16, 2019 at 06:53 pm

Matthews wasn't a very good ILB.

OLB's in 3-4 style roles (edge rushers) are a completely different body type AND skill set than an ILB. They really aren't interchangeable.

It's nice the CMIII found a revitalized role, but his time in GB was up and he needed to go.

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Gort's picture

December 16, 2019 at 07:02 pm

Oppy, I understand, but he only played 18 out of 84 possible defensive snaps vs. the Bears. If he were actually playing at a level commensurate with his draft position then the real experts that have far better video than we have on TV surely would find a way to get him into the rotation at more than 20% of the time. Fresh legs are important for pass rushers. A few have suggested that he might play ILB and that sounds like a good idea to me. Said the same thing about CMIII, but he clearly didn't want that.

Edit - just saw some follow up on CMIII comments. I thought he played ILB quite well - IMHO it is his best position.

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Oppy's picture

December 17, 2019 at 05:53 pm

CMIII was all the rage at MLB amongst fans, but that's only because he was better than what was available. He really wasn't that good.

Get over the line of thinking how much someone "should" play based on draft slotting. The second a player is signed, it simply doesn't make a difference. The realities of the draft are that even 1st round- even top 10- picks are still a crap shoot. The only thing that matters is that you hopefully end up with players that help your team win. Doesn't really matter when, were, or how they are acquired. Today, more than ever, the draft position is almost irrelevant, now that rookie contracts have been largely limited.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

December 16, 2019 at 11:18 am

I replayed it numerous times. Great 2nd effort! He is showing talent. The key to his success will be does he have a non-stop motor like Zadarious?

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Kaatz99's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:26 pm

I will take bend don't break but wish we would bend less...especially on that last drive.

Rodgers is still throwing great but that head first dive and sack in FG range are stupid.

Line did a nice job protecting...not run blocking

I hope the drop-itis is cured for next week. Sheesh.

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jannes bjornson's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:05 pm

They have no time outs left. What pass patterns do you think the Bears will run?? The zone cover that left Robinson roam to the sideline should have been an easy pick for King if he was playing with his mind in the the Game. Sloppy play won't do next week or in any playoff game.

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Grandfathered's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:21 pm

I think replay will show a WR running free on a post that AR did not see. Love the win, GO PACK! 11-3!

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Leo Van Groll's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:42 pm

Want to cure the drop-itis? Get MVS & Geronimo off the field.

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Oppy's picture

December 15, 2019 at 11:27 pm

You're getting a lot of thumbs up, but Geronimo has been catching the ball better as of late, and today, it was Davante Adams who dropped either 2 or 3 balls. Just sayin'.

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marpag1's picture

December 16, 2019 at 01:13 am

Fair enough, I guess, but he's on pace for 286 yards receiving all year. And he's played about 61% of the offensive snaps this year, the highest on the team. That's beyond atrocious. What practice squad player couldn't do as well as that?

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Oppy's picture

December 16, 2019 at 01:05 am

I was very supportive of GMO at the outset of this season after what was a remarkably strong showing in 2018 before injury, but I agree, he has performed poorly (TO atrociously) in 2019 thus far. He HAS played much better the last few weeks, but i agree, kumerow should be getting more opportunities at this point.

just pointing out that when someone complains of drops in today's game, calling out MVS abd GMO while failing to mention Adams is an oversight.

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Cubbygold's picture

December 15, 2019 at 08:38 pm

The offense not going 3 and out repeatedly in the 3rd and 4th quarters would have been nice. The defense pretty much played the whole 4th quarter

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Lare's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:27 pm

It wasn't pretty (none of them are) but it was an important win.

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Tundraboy's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:27 pm

Ugly win but I'll take it. I understand it's the bears, but this was a frustrating disgusting game at times. MVS Allison and Adams. Time for Jones as first option. And more Kumerow and Lazard. Too many points left on field.
There was a pass play near mid game where Adams made absolutely no attempt to go up field and sought out the sideline!

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Grandfathered's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:37 pm

I saw Adams go out of bounds too soon also. I wish some receivers would run into or over somebody.

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GVPacker's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:06 pm

Yea I saw Adams bail out early too, that was a Girly Man Play!

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Tundraboy's picture

December 15, 2019 at 09:24 pm

Right?! I couldn't believe it.

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cheesehead1's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:00 pm

I thought the same thing. Take a hit Devante and get more yards, that was pathetic. Way too many drops, MVS, Adams x2 or3 , Allison. Give Kumerow a chance, he makes plays when given a chance and please sit Graham.

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Oppy's picture

December 15, 2019 at 11:30 pm

Considering Davante had an unusually hard time catching the ball today, might it be possible that he was having grip issues of some sort (either wonky equipment, a hand injury of some sort, or possibly just an extra slick ball) and he was making a decision to get out of bounds before taking contact for fear of coughing up the ball?

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jannes bjornson's picture

December 16, 2019 at 10:59 am

Wind chill wasn't tropical, I hear.

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Qoojo's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:31 pm

- Tramon trying to commit suicide. Make the fair catch when you have tro run that far up field.
- Rodgers has to know not to take a sack there and put them out of FG range.
- Rodgers had a couple questionable decisions like running and diving forward when it was still forever for first down.
- Defense held up. Good job.
- Adams drops.
- MVS alligator arms
- It's like the offense gave up at end of half. They decided that they were close enough, and to waste the rest of the time.

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packerbackerjim's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:28 pm

I was hoping for a little creativity out of LaFleur and didn’t see it. The drops didn’t help, the bad decisions didn’t help, but the conservative runs were predictable and ineffective. The TEs were invisible again, mostly. There some great plays by Kumerow and Lowry that will live in infamy, as far as Chicago is concerned. Live to fight another day.

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paxbak's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:56 pm

Nothing creative out there - guys on routes with no purpose other than to beat them one on one - no scheme - nothing smart - Expected more out of Laflaer - Maybe it is all on Rodgers and he has regressed into a game manager who cant convert on 3rd and short

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Oppy's picture

December 15, 2019 at 11:33 pm

If Rodgers was more of a game manager, we'd be doing better.

It's the free lancing that gets this offense into trouble. When Rodgers "manages the game" (AKA: runs the scheme) the offense chugs along like a well oiled machine more often than not.

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Doug_In_Sandpoint's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:32 pm

Winning ugly. Beating the Bears. 11-3. Got some cardio without going to the gym. My day’s going pretty OK.

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DangerMouseUK's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:34 pm

Alan Lazard had some big blocks in the run game.

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jannes bjornson's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:09 pm

He needs to see the ball on 2nd and 3rd with short yardage. Move the damn chains.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:34 pm

They won which is great but Rodgers made a lot of bad decisions today. Diving head first way short of the first down. Taking sacks to push out of field goal range. I'm worried about him. He's lost accuracy for sure and now he's making rookie errors multiple times a game.

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badaxed's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:39 pm

Rodgers play sucks. He is overhyped, overpaid, and over the hill.

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edp1959's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:39 pm

Rodgers says he is worried about you too.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:44 pm

Well good thing I don't have a 60 mil dead cap liability.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 15, 2019 at 05:17 pm

Yes, but after taking life insurance into consideration, are you worth more dead than alive?

I thought I caught my children looking at me sideways the other day. I will breathe easier when my old term policy expires in a year, and definitely I will not be letting them know about the expiration date.

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Tundraboy's picture

December 15, 2019 at 06:13 pm

May be time for a new girlfriend or none.

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CAG123's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:35 pm

Its almost like MLF says "alright guys that's 21 points lets pack it up"! then a player asks "Coach don't you want to put them away"?! then MLF contemplates for 1.5 seconds "Hmmm naaaa" I'll take the win and a sweep over the Bears any day but damn you have them down 21-3 and you can't get nothing else for the rest of the third and all of the fourth? Also where was the TO when Chicago started their no huddle and hit three big plays? Just going to let them stroll down the field their?
11-3 sure feels good though go pack

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HankScorpio's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:44 pm

One more win against a Lion team that just got taken apart by Tampa Bay means another game in Lambeau.

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GVPacker's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:37 pm

When is the last time you saw a DB try to knock Down a Hail Mary Pass instead of trying to get a Pick? This is todays NFL where Padding your stats is more important than getting a Win! Nice going MVS "Look Mom No Hands"!

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CAG123's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:50 pm

Huh? Alexander extended as far as he could and the ball still slipped through his fingers there was a bears player right at the goal line of he had knocked it down it probably would have gone right to him like in the Jaguars game some years ago.

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Barazinho's picture

December 16, 2019 at 01:58 pm

Alexander looked like he was covering Ridley, and was in perfect position. When he saw the ball coming, he did the big 3-step jump to try to high-point and intercept the ball. If he would have simply stayed in front of Ridely, he could have just knocked the ball down, or be the guy behind the defender with the best position - he ran him over with his jump. It struck me as a hot dog play - going for the big int, and just like with other balls he should intercept, it slipped off the top of his hands. Not good.

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Lare's picture

December 16, 2019 at 04:00 pm

If Alexander & Savage could catch the football they'd be WR's instead of DB's.

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ShooterMcGee's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:39 pm

Rodgers made some terrible decisions which is so unexpected from any veteran quarterback. What was he thinking when in field goal range? Surely he will say the Win is whats important, but he has got to play better for our Superbowl aspirations.

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flackcatcher's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:28 pm

Unless the Packers were inside the Bears 20, they were not going to try for a field goal. Both HC made that decision. The field and temp made that an easy call for both teams. I don't know what happened, but that turf was dead. Trying to plant for anything else other than a short shot would be difficult...

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HankScorpio's picture

December 15, 2019 at 05:17 pm

ML doesn't consult or inform me about gameday management but I'm guessing that is closer to the 30, not the 20 as the red line for a FG attempt. They were at the 27. I think they would have kicked it without the sack.

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Jared's picture

December 15, 2019 at 08:03 pm

That’s fine but they are out of timeouts, you run on 3rd down, then run the play clock down to 1 second, call time out and run it again on 4th down to take time off the clock. You don’t take a sack and give them 5-7 extra yards.

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jlc1's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:33 pm

It looked to me like the receivers got stuffed at the LOS and by the time they got moving the Bears were already in his lap. No chance at all to avoid a sack there. That one was on the receivers or at least the play call which maybe should have been a super fast slant.

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jannes bjornson's picture

December 15, 2019 at 07:34 pm

Thanks for watching the Game.

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mbpacker's picture

December 15, 2019 at 07:09 pm

Because AR is always trying to make the big, splash play!

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croatpackfan's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:40 pm

I'm amazed you all called McCarthy play calling predictable. How do you call MLF play calling than?

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Chevy572rat's picture

December 15, 2019 at 06:44 pm

I like how MLF starts out his play calling, but it's like he doesn't know what to call or get a rythm for the rest of the game. Need to get a KEEP THE PEDAL DOWN mentality and put teams AWAY. Way too many drops, OL not getting the run game going, Jones not doing his job in pass protection, and AR with a few head scratching mistakes. We need to start playing a complete game on both sides of the ball by the players AND the coaches. Far from playing the way you want your team to look going into the playoffs. Hate to say it, but the Vikes look like a much better team than us right now, hope the Pack show me wrong next week. A Pack win next week at the Vikes could be that "turn the corner" victory needed to get this team rolling into the playoffs. Will be a tough game. GO PACK !!!!!!!

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jannes bjornson's picture

December 15, 2019 at 07:41 pm

O line is not good at run blocking with the exception of Jenkins and Turner. There will be more new blood coming to this unit in 2020. They do not have enough depth to keep the all out attack mode on green. LaFleur is trying to preserve his running game for the queens and Lions. They do not utilize Vitale much, hopefully he gets some bash time in next week's game at the shipwreck. They have to grind on the purple defense to maintain ball control. The DBs have to make plays against Diggs and Thielen. Who will cover Rudolph?

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Tundraboy's picture

December 15, 2019 at 09:27 pm

I thought we moved on from Mike? Nothing gained by bringing him up anymore.

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croatpackfan's picture

December 16, 2019 at 03:48 am

I thought I moved on. But MLF play calling reminds me how "good" was Mike McCarthy last season with Packers...

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edp1959's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:43 pm

11 - 3, just win.....

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Bizarro's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:43 pm

So, aside from Davante joining the drops team that is this receiving corps (hello, Captain Geronimo), and guys continuing to be on a different page as ARod when he scrambles (hello Mr. Tonyan)...the team continues to win despite its glaring shortcomings. So, there’s that.

There is plenty of questioning to be made concerning the offensive identity of this team - pretty much each and every week. Then there are the drops and the inability to get open. The forward slide by ARod, the continued inability to get rid of the ball before the inevitable pressure by such a vaunted qb, and the clear playing not to lose playcalling I witnessed in the 4th quarter. There is all of this AND...

IF you are simply going to run the ball twice on your second series when attempting (and failing) to eat clock midway through the 4th quarter and then predictably putting yourself in a losing passing situation...AND the momentum is clearly in the Bears favor...WHY not simply waste more clock and run the ball on 3rd down? AND, if you aren’t clear what you are actually doing - which is clear to me often with LaFleur, and you aren’t going to run the ball AND you fail in your passing choice (which they did) WHY ON GOD’S GREEN EARTH are you opting to punt the ball, WITH A RUNNING CLOCK, with 20 seconds on your playclock?!? The review showed the clock stopped at 28 seconds of that minute mark. The ball was placed. The punt team lined up. The playclock was set to 25 seconds. The moment the referee made their signal, the playclock and the gamceclock began running down. The Packers CHOSE to snap that ball with 20 seconds on their playclock. There was and is no excuse.

EVERY facet of that madness to end the game: OCCURRED WITH 20 SECONDS LEFT.

Clock Management football. THIS sequence described really put me over the edge today. I accept their shortcomings talent-wise on the offensive side wr positions. I accept the first year coach learning his way. I accept the first year identity crisis on the offensive side. I find it extremely hard to accept that series and that punting sequence.

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flackcatcher's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:33 pm

(sigh.....) Special teams. What can I say....

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Norm's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:42 pm

Thought I was the only one who noticed that clock management screw up on the second to last punt. One of many mental mistakes by the team today, most of which are called out above. Rodgers head first slide and near turnover, Defense’s lateral sequence on the int at the end of the first half that ended near their own ten yard line, Rodgers sack that took them out of FG range, and why wasn’t Williams in to protect on that play instead of Jones if I recall correctly?

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paxbak's picture

December 15, 2019 at 05:05 pm

I didn't see that otherwise I would have made a mental point as well - this drives me crazy that these coaches who get paid millions can't manage the clock in a 2+2=4 fashion.

Madden XBOX has fixed time outs at the end of the half and the game - Coaches used to let the clock run out and not use the timeouts to full advantage. Doesn't happen anymore thanks to video games - used to drive me screaming nuts. See Ray Rhodes versus Carolina in about 2000 - 2001 - let them run clock to 3 seconds at the packer 5 to kick the winning field goal with three time outs in pocket and Brett Favre on the bench.

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Swisch's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:45 pm

* Trubisky was as good, or better, than Rodgers.
* How does a hall-of-fame quarterback take two sacks to move us out of field goal range?
* Aaron Jones made a really good effort on those two pass blocks; Rodgers has to peel off to the side.
* Where, Coach LaFleur, are the screens and jet sweeps and quarterback rollouts? There seems to be little creativity in the short game on offense to move the chains and milk the clock late in the game. Are there no ways to scheme guys open for short passes?
* If it was a bad call on the punt not caught by Williams, why didn't the Bears challenge?
* MVS is going to be fine. It would have been good to throw another deep ball to him sometime in this game.
* More Lazard, Tonyan and Vitale, please, plus Jones out of the backfield.
* With first downs at a precious premium, Rodgers could have run for one in the first half on third and short. Then, after stupidly throwing an incompletion instead, he has the nerve to correct Tonyan on the field. How about a teammate correcting Rodgers by pointing at the first down marker?
* 11-3 never felt so conflicted.

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HankScorpio's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:53 pm

"Trubisky was as good, or better, than Rodgers."

I'm not sure whether I agree or not. Either way, being the taller midget doesn't mean he should be playing Center in the NBA. I hope the Bears look at his recent play and make the same mistake Jax did with Blake Bortles.

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Doug Niemczynski's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:44 pm

Again Rodger's would NOT, NOT NOT made the 1st down the Bear defender was running horizontally in front of him closing the gap to the sidelines. Defenders are FAST!!

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HankScorpio's picture

December 15, 2019 at 05:25 pm

No doubt Rodgers left much to be desired today. Sure his numbers were hurt by some key drops. But that's not the end of the story by any stretch. He threw poorly and made poor decisions.

They had 4 drives that started on their own 41 or better, including one at the Chicago 33. They got zero points off those drives.

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Tundraboy's picture

December 15, 2019 at 06:31 pm

It's football. And in a game like that against the bears, that's where Legends are made,and leaders lead. imo

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:05 pm

I am with Hank. I complained in a game thread about the bone-headed sacks and Intentional grounding calls and no targets for Aaron Jones. But Trubisky missed a ton of passes.

Chicago outplayed GB. The difference was 3 Turnovers for Chicago, none for GB.

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Gort's picture

December 15, 2019 at 06:21 pm

Didn't Rodgers give it away once and the Williams muffed punt should have been another. Pack got lucky on that one - I think the refs got it wrong.
(Cue the down votes, but I call 'em as I see 'em).

EDIT - forgot that the Rodgers fumble was reversed on review. Refs got that one right, but it was close.

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edp1959's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:10 pm

Saying #10 out played #12 is the lamest BS I have heard. I have to laugh every time I hear that ignorant comment from anyone. Did they both play against the same defense? Rodgers played against the #4 defense today, who did Trubisky play against? Rodgers would tear up GB defense even with their pitiful receiving Corp.

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jannes bjornson's picture

December 15, 2019 at 07:48 pm

That's about right.

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Swisch's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:49 pm

The two sacks taken by Rodgers to lose field goal attempts were soft turnovers that really hurt.
Overall, its seems Trubisky was more lively and involved and invigorating.
One of Trubisky's turnovers was an interception at the end of the first half and thus meaningless; another interception was a fluky great play by a defensive lineman.
Trubisky threw some wobblers, but then he would resiliently step up with some strikes.
When it was all said and done, he led the Bears to a great comeback that fell just short.
I'm glad Rodgers is careful with the ball, but his failures on third down do result in giving the ball back to the other team -- which are soft turnovers.
Without significant improvement with our short game on offense, the Packers will end with a thud against the Vikings, and then a dud in the playoffs.
With Rodgers literally hazardous to our health as fans, I hope he takes pity on us and works to remedy the situation.
I'm tough on him, but as a fan rooting for him!

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HankScorpio's picture

December 15, 2019 at 06:08 pm

"One of Trubisky's turnovers was an interception at the end of the first half and thus meaningless; another interception was a fluky great play by a defensive lineman"

As long as we're on the topic of how righteous Trubisky's turnover number was, let's talk about the 2-3 near misses. I know one was dropped by Savage near the goal line. I don't remember who dropped the others or the context, just that Trubisky was not as discriminating as you'd like in selecting the correct jersey to hit with his passes.

If anything 2 picks undersells how careless Trubisky was with the football. I hope to see him line up under center for the Bears for a few more years.

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Tundraboy's picture

December 15, 2019 at 06:28 pm

" With first downs at a precious premium, Rodgers could have run for one in the first half on third and short. Then, after stupidly throwing an incompletion instead, he has the nerve to correct Tonyan on the field. How about a teammate correcting Rodgers by pointing at the first down marker?"

I think I nearly had an aneurysm on that play.

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jannes bjornson's picture

December 15, 2019 at 07:51 pm

Tonyan is clueless about TE play in the hook zones. Give Sternberger more looks.

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Oppy's picture

December 15, 2019 at 11:48 pm

Re: Where are the short passes?

Maybe LeFleur watched the game tape so far in 2019 and realized that Aaron Rodgers is the worst screen / short yardage QB in the league.

No kidding. Not bashing (really), it's just a fact. Rodgers has never.. and I mean never.. shown any touch on the short pass game. Exception: throwing the dart almost laterally to the WR on the edge immediately on the snap of the ball if he sees the DB giving more than a 5 yard cushion. He nails that pass all day. Otherwise- screens, very shallow drags, short curls and outs? He either throws an uncatchable frozen rope at point blank range, or he throws it short into the dirt at the target's feet. I can only theorize that it is Rodgers' fear of a defender getting an easy pick 6 as to why he throws the extremely short stuff as he does- he is limiting the odds of a defender breaking up the pass by making it all but uncatchable.. even by the intended target.

I would love to see them run more screens and short routes, too. But I could understand why a coach might not even try to call those plays anymore, too.

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PackCop's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:45 pm

Watching Haha Clinton-Dix absolutely whiff on Kumerow brought me tremendous joy. It's good seeing him do that for a different team, it's great seeing him do that for the Bears.

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packerbackerjim's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:07 pm

It’s a guilty pleasure, that schadenfreude.

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Lare's picture

December 16, 2019 at 04:21 pm

Actually, although we all criticized the Packers for missed tackles earlier in the season, the Bears missed more tackles in this game than I've ever seen in my life.

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bjkdad44's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:53 pm

The #Packers' four fourth-quarter drives:

3 plays, 5 yards
3 plays, -3 yards
3 plays, -5 yards
3 plays, -1 yard

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dobber's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:56 pm

Let's not lose track of the fact that they were playing against a pretty good defense.

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Gort's picture

December 15, 2019 at 08:43 pm

That's true, but a good offense should surely get at least 1 first down in 4 possessions in the 4th quarter to put the game away. Failure to do so could get you beat, or maybe result in OT if not for a fortuitous bounce on a last second play.

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Oppy's picture

December 15, 2019 at 11:50 pm

Who said it's a good offense though?

We're a streaky offense at best.

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TheKanataThrilla's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:03 pm

There's prevent Defense, but I swear this team plays prevent offense at times.

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jannes bjornson's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:20 pm

Defeatist play-calling. Way too conservative. Let the Bears sit in max coverage. Get the ball to Adams or Jones Outside the hash. MVS should be moved out.

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Bure9620's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:54 pm

The Bears actually sold out to stop the run in the 4Q, which is strange. It gave single coverage in many places Rodgers missed. He missed Lazard WIDE open twice! One play to Graham and a wide open Lazard. MLF needs to sit ARod down and say "dude, I am scheming guys open, can you go through your progression atleast??"

And then the 4th Q plan was to run it into a wall on 1st and 2nd downs and then let Rodgers hold it for 6 seconds and get sacked on 3rd.?? Geez

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Swisch's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:21 pm

I didn't realize there were open receivers in the fourth quarter, and guessed that Rodgers didn't have good options. I was wondering if the schemes were bad for the routes.
Maybe CHTV will break down these plays for us to see any missed opportunities during those ugly drives late in the game.

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Bizarro's picture

December 15, 2019 at 03:56 pm

Also: that INT by Lowry. WOW. That was extremely impressive for a ‘big’ guy!

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PatrickGB's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:34 pm

Rodgers said Lowery was working on the juggs machine during the week.

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Yukon_1449's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:01 pm

Was that Preston Smith who tore Turbo's hand warmer off his waist and then just stared at him as he ran away during that last play in the 4th? I have not seen the replay yet but whoever that was about made me throw my TV out the window.

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HankScorpio's picture

December 15, 2019 at 06:12 pm

I thought it was strange how they defended that last play. It was like they were expecting a heave into the end zone as the only way they could be tied up. When that didn't happen, they didn't look all that concerned with actually making the tackle to end the game.

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4zone's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:03 pm

This is, hands down, the worst 11-3 team in NFL history. At best, we are the 5th best team in the NFC. Forget about the AFC, we won't get anywhere near them until next season.

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4zone's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:32 pm

If the Playoffs were to start today, We would have a week off and likely play either Seattle, Minnesota, or New Orleans. Any of those teams would take us the way we are playing. And having a week off has proven to do nothing for us except put us in a stupor in prepping for our next opponent.

I'm hope for better, but have no evidence it can happen. This has oddly been a most painful season to follow. Who knows, maybe someone wakes up on the other side of the bed this week and figures out how to fix it all. Unlikely though.

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Swisch's picture

December 15, 2019 at 05:49 pm

As you said, 4zone, let's keep hoping for better, even though it doesn't look good on the field as far as progress for the offense.
I think it's up to Aaron at QB. Although not as good as in the past, he seems able. The major question seems to be, as far as adapting, whether he is willing.
I still think Rodgers can lead us like he did in 2010 to a late surge.

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Oppy's picture

December 15, 2019 at 11:58 pm

As pedestrian as our offense has been all season, I still feel as though the Packers could line up and beat any of those teams on a given Sunday.

The Smiths' and the DBs give the defense a chance to steal multiple turn overs on a given day; and the fact that the offense is a mess and we're still winning games gives me hope that if Rodgers pulls his head out of his ass and plays to the scheme for a full 4 quarters we might actually see an in-rhythm offense that methodically churns out yardage, moves the sticks, eats clock and posts 7 points on repeated, sustained drives.

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HankScorpio's picture

December 16, 2019 at 04:55 am

Every team has flaws. We watch the Packers and see them week to week. It's a good thing that most people can recognize those flaws instead of being in denial about them. But we should not be in denial about the fact that other teams have them as well.

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Kyle Graham's picture

December 15, 2019 at 05:01 pm

Why even watch the pack every week? If it’s this miserable for ya go watch someone else. The pack is 11-3 and tops in the north. Life is good baby!

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keeley2's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:04 pm

4-0 in the division pretty much assures us we'll win any tiebreakers vs Minnesota (unless we lose the last two). Getting the 2nd seed is really a must (the 5th/6th seeds are scary).

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splitpea1's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:04 pm

The defense showed up to play right out the gate--I knew they would. The tackling was pretty solid, although Trubisky managed to escape a couple of times. Nice job by Lowry hanging on to that interception.

The big hole in this offense is the inability to complete a third-and-five/six yard pass; you wouldn't think it would be that difficult, but apparently it is. Being able to move the chains and chew up clock would have saved us from that adventuresome ending--the Bears had way too many chances to possibly tie the game with a TD and two-point conversion.

Special teams: Love our new returner! Poor final punt by Scott, though--should've been able to get that ball to the 10-yard line.

It may not have been the prettiest win in some people's minds, but we beat a quality opponent, and besides, I enjoy these kind of games.

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Rebecca's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:10 pm

11-3. Fun to watch A Jones play. Lazard played well. I don’t have much faith in MVS anymore. He can’t find the ball in the air and unreliable catching it. Good thing he’s fast. No matter how hard they try they won’t get a fraction of their money’s worth from J Graham. Bahktiari and Bulaga played very well. No use complaining about Rodgers and LaFleur. This is a very good team inspite of the lack of receiving talent.

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4zone's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:10 pm

Jimmy has been a colossal waste of money.

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Leo Van Groll's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:57 pm

They have receiving talent, but for some reason MVS & Geronimo keep getting playing time which Kumerow & Lazard should be getting.

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nostradanus's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:08 pm

YES - sweeping the Bears in year 100!! Woohoo!!
11&3 woohoo!! GO PACK!!

It’s a great day man!

Those calories you had with all them brats & beers don’t even count today!!

That is all.........

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Gort's picture

December 15, 2019 at 09:05 pm

MVS didn't even stretch his arms and try to catch the ball.
Lowry as better hands, but he's probably not fast enough to be converted to Wide Receiver.
Overall tackling looked better, looked like less missed tackles.
Great win.

Edit - watching Pittsburgh vs. Buffalo on SNF and Pittsburgh rookie WR Diontae Johnson just made a great catch by reaching for the ball. MVS had his opportunity, time to try someone else.

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4zone's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:09 pm

When you look at Brett, he could never learn to not throw the ball into impossible coverage, his fatal flaw. For Aaron, he can't break away from his 'trust' issue to throw to the open players. Its his Achilles heel.

And after further review, Aaron is not nearly the QB he was 3 years ago. We need to get moving on his replacement before Green Bay turns into the NY Giants west. Its sad to say, but I just don't think AR has what its gonna take to make this offense work. He is too stuck in his ways, just like Brett was. Sad.

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edp1959's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:15 pm

#12 has this team at 11 - 3 and #2 seed and all I hear is bitch, bitch, bitch.....

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HankScorpio's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:42 pm

The Packers are 11-3. It's selling the other 52 guys short to to say that Rodgers has them there. They have won as a team to get those 11 wins. To the extent that one side of the ball has picked up a losing effort by the other, I'd give the defense the edge in those games.

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Oppy's picture

December 16, 2019 at 12:01 am

Aaron Jones and the Defense are far more responsible for the team being at 11-3 than Rodgers so far in 2019

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sam1's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:15 pm

Time to give Ryan Grant a chance at WR and find somebody else inactive once! And n BJ Goodson and lucky Martinez not hurt seriously It seems to be LaFleur is head coach in name only and Rodgers is running the shit show on offense. Yup I know lots of thumbs down! But something just isn't right in that on field organization!

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PeteK's picture

December 15, 2019 at 06:03 pm

You too get in the bathroom, Mush.

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bjkdad44's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:21 pm

Packers five possessions after going up 21-3: 18 plays, 9 yards, 5 punts.

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pacman's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:26 pm

Seeing Trubitsky hit those quick tight throws to the middle while Rodgers takes sacks to put us out of field goal range is just too much. There's an ugly win and there is a bad win. Packers aren't winning ugly. They are winning badly. Except for the crossing pass to DA when the defender slipped, AR looked pretty mediocre today. Pass to Kumerow was good. But the TD to Adams was underthrown and the other one that hit the defenders helmet was underthrown. Sorry, AR has played badly enough this year to no longer deserve to be called elite at all. And holding on to the ball certainly doesn't help his reputation. I am no longer confident that he can play at a high level and move this team forward. It's on him now to show that he can.

AJ might be able to slash threw holes but he isn't moving many out of his way. I think he should be used as a receiver out of the backfield against these tough front defenses and let Williams do the plowing. You got to give AJ credit for taking on those linebackers an getting run over.

Yes, it is better that losing. But how good can you feel about this team (mostly the offense) when they play this way?

Not looking forward to Cousins, Diggs and Thielin next week.

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JohnnyLogan's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:27 pm

Rodgers has the talent still but he also has the yips for some reason. He doesn't go through progressions, doesn't see wide open receivers, makes awful decisions at times, He also doesn't have decent receivers, especially in the slot, or TE's. All that combined makes for a lousy offense. When Adams was out he had no receivers at all so the game went through Jones and was a completely different offense. Rodgers was relegated to game manager. Why they stopped doing that is the mystery, and the answer may be Rodger's ego. He doesn't want to game manage.

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Oppy's picture

December 16, 2019 at 12:03 am

ding ding ding ding ding

We have a winner

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Imafan's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:38 pm

I love Aaron Rodgers, but today he nearly cost his team a win! Not once but twice he lost yardage on third down to give away an attempt at putting game out of reach. He is one of the smartest players out there, his awareness today was suspect! Very uncharacteristic! Go Pack!

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Houndog's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:50 pm

I can't imagine what Rodgers is griping about, "we need to be more consistent"?
The Packers are very consistent, and unfortunately, they're also very predictable, MLF's got nothing on McCarthy!

When they get a lead: They consistently and immediately revert to the McCarthy "Run-Two-Three-Kick" offense.

And, with that lead: They consistently and immediately revert to the Dom Capers/Mike Petine "Let's-Give-the-Other-Team-A-Shot-At-This-Game" defense by playing 8-10 yds deep.

Anybody thinking it's ugly now, this ain't ugly, just wait for the play-offs against the good teams, now that'll be ugly!

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Adorabelle's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:40 pm

11 - 3

And yet enough drops and missed opportunities on offense and giving up big yards to a bad qb on defense to keep everyone bitching for another week.

Ready... go

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GeorgiaCheesehead's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:46 pm

Yes 11-3 is nice. Great improvement from last year. But - absolutely zero creativity on offense. Thoroughly disappointed in MLF play calling/scheming with that said. MVS, GMO & JG need to be gone after this year. TW made rookie mistakes... Gone after this year. Yes we will make playoffs but we will not make a deep run. Main needs Next year are , a legitimate #2 WR to go with DA, Lazard, ESB and Kumerow. Need a legitimate TE, ILB that can cover. OL did a nice job Ervin is a breath of fresh air!

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Houndog's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:48 pm

Yeah,
MLF was supposed to be some up-n-comer offensive genius, but so far it looks like his only bit of genius was in finding where McCarthy hid his playbook.

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Doug Niemczynski's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:50 pm

I agree. And, Packers need to get better and quick.

I want to be just happy with their regular seadon record, but playoffs are a NEW season!!! We are pretty much injury free and that should NEVER be taken lightly.

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Oppy's picture

December 16, 2019 at 12:08 am

Don't need to be creative. Need to execute the scheme.

Remember when Adams was out? That looked real nice, right?

That stretch was what this offense is supposed to look like.

Rodgers gets his security blanket back, he puts the blinders on, and starts getting Adams tunnel vision. Starts checking out of run plays. Starts ignoring what the defense is giving him; wants to get Davante his targets, wants that big chunk play.

Adams is a great weapon. But this offense is designed to chip away with multiple tools underneath and across the middle, and selectively take your shots off the play action.

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paxbak's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:52 pm

I count 5 out of 15 3rd down conversions - other than the 3rd and 20 caused by Phantom hold, we were consistently 3rd and 5 or less - This is awful!! Look at all of the down and distances below with the result - Rodgers 16 of 33 on the day - no plays to scheme a 1st down - no passes in windows over the middle like Trabisky was able to do all day - This was a terrible performance - with those down and distance, we should have been 10 of 15 at least. See below if you want to puke!!

3rd and 6 - 7 yards to Adams
3rd and 5 - Incomplete to Allison
3rd and 8 - 4 yards to lazard
3rd and 1 - 1st down run Williams
3rd and 4 - Incomplete deep middle Tonyan - Rodgers could have run for it
3rd and 6 - Incomplete deep middle Graham
3rd and 3 - 10 yards Lazard
3rd and 4 - Intentional grounding penalty
3rd and 4 - Rodgers to Kumerow for 49
3rd and 3 - J Williams 3 yards
3rd and 7 - Incomplete short right Lazard
3rd and 5 - Incomplete short right ??
3rd and 20 - Rodgers dives head 1st for the sticks - came up 13 yards short
3rd and 4 - Rodgers sacked
3rd and 5 - Rodgers to the left for -1

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HankScorpio's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:54 pm

Rodgers used to own 3rd down. They've stunk on 3rd down all year.

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Since'61's picture

December 15, 2019 at 05:05 pm

And yet we won the game 21-13 and are 11-3. Those are the stats that matter. Who cares about the 3rd downs. The game is over. Take the win and move on. If you expect a TD on every drive and you whine over a victory you must spend a lot of your time whining. It's much more enjoyable appreciating the win than criticizing it. Thanks, Since '61

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sam1's picture

December 15, 2019 at 05:25 pm

Been a Packer Backer since 1958 and this was the definition of a complete shit show! Worst team possible with a winning record!

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jannes bjornson's picture

December 16, 2019 at 11:21 am

Worse than a 16-1 team getting ass-kicked @ Home by the Giants, post-superbowl season??

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Gort's picture

December 15, 2019 at 05:56 pm

Not expecting a TD on every drive, but we should expect just 1 first down to put the game away. Yes I am very happy with the win, but I used a few choice words along the way.

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Tundraboy's picture

December 15, 2019 at 10:10 pm

Yup.

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HankScorpio's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:52 pm

Maybe I missed someone else mentioning it, but that win finishes off the most lopsided decade in Packers-Bears history. And officially eliminated the Bears from playoff contention for the year.

For good measure, the Cowboys might be making the playoffs official for the Packers by beating the Rams. Lotta ballgame left there but the Cowboys have a huge lead....after electing to kick instead of deferring after winning the coin flip.

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paxbak's picture

December 15, 2019 at 05:18 pm

Bears Packers aside - it's about being a contender and we are not - top 8 maybe - wish this team played better

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HankScorpio's picture

December 15, 2019 at 07:36 pm

I used to think like that. I don't anymore. The playoffs will play out as they play out whether the Packers won today by a score of 21-13 or 38-3. So why should I rob myself of enjoying days like today because it wasn't artistic enough to convince me or others it had a larger meaning it really doesn't?

And I don't ever put Packers-Bears aside.

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LeotisHarris's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:53 pm

I had a bad feeling going into this game, so I'm glad to come away with the win. Kenny Clark is a beast. Amazed at the way we came out in the second half and scored. Watching the rest of the game created an environment where my behavior frightened our dogs. I feel exhilarated and ashamed.

Might as well go on over to Minnesota and win ugly again. Go Pack!

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NJMagic's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:57 pm

Did anybody else highly enjoy watching haha go flying by kumerow???

I chuckled out loud reading last week about how both players are having equivalent seasons...

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Since'61's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:58 pm

Good solid win today against a Bears team that was playing for their season. Packers took over the game in the 3rd quarter. MVS needs to sit in place of Lazard after not catching Rodgers perfect pass on the first play of the game. Our defense played another strong game until the Bears 4th quarter TD drive. Prior to that they stuffed the Bears run game and turned Twobitsky into a poor man's version of Cutler.
we're 11-3 with 2 games to go. We should finish 12-4 at least. Hopefully we make it to the playoffs healthy. Win ugly baby, it counts as much as any other win. On to the Viqueens and Go Pack Go! Thanks, Since '61

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NJMagic's picture

December 15, 2019 at 07:04 pm

GMo definitely needs to sit ... It's not a Davante situation where there was some great skills to work with to accommodate year 2 drops. He's literally JAG.

Would throw Kumerow out there instead- just for speed on the go.

Did you see Lazard's block on the line??? Man is he fun to watch.

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Leo Van Groll's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:59 pm

What the hell is it that MVS & Geronimo keep getting playing time ???

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wildbill's picture

December 15, 2019 at 04:59 pm

At this point I would take Janis over MVS, at least Janis was a great gunner on punts. Allison has regressed badly and any positive play from Graham is a big surprise. I get the frustration with Rodgers play but the drops today were very bad and may have a lot to do with Rodgers lack of confidence in his receivers not named Adams, although he dropped at least two today

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Kyle Graham's picture

December 15, 2019 at 05:07 pm

Good lord, looking through these comments you would think our packers lost. Having seasons like this one don’t happen all the time and we shouldn’t take it for granted. 11-3 and first place in the north is right where we wanna be at this point in the season. Quit whining and enjoy it. Wins are hard to come by. Go pack go!

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NWPackersfan's picture

December 15, 2019 at 05:11 pm

So anyone got the stats on when AR has a serious girlfriend vs being single. It seems to me he had a similar slump when he was with Olivia?

Just a thought because he looks AWEFUL!!!

Yes he is in a new system and has new receivers that have dropped several passes but he just doesn't look like he cares much lately.

IMO for whatever that's worth....

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crefan's picture

December 15, 2019 at 05:26 pm

A win is a win.
They had my stomach in knots the whole game.
It's going to take the whole night to unknot.
So much for dinner.
Thanks Packers.

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Lphill's picture

December 15, 2019 at 05:27 pm

So what Vegas cares about is the Pack was favored by 4 .5 and they won by 8 , so they covered and more.

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cpabandit's picture

December 15, 2019 at 05:34 pm

All I want for Christmas is.....
1. DBacks that can intercept a pass.
2. Rodgers to have the ball snapped with more than 0:00 showing on the clock
3. Rodgers to throw away a football and at least make to the line of scrimmage
4. Rodgers to just throw it way especially when you are in field goal range
5. Receivers without hands of stone
6. Defense to not leave receivers and certainly not tight ends wide open.
7. Rodgers to learn how to slide feet first
8. The Packers staff to manage the clock better before the half.
9. The Packers defense to stop making the opposing QB look like a future HOFer.
10. Get rid of King.
11. Have King take Graham with him.
12. Get tickets to watch the Packers in the Super Bowl LIV!

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mbpacker's picture

December 15, 2019 at 05:35 pm

Seemed like we let the air out of the ball and played the clock after we got the big lead. Why stop dancing with who brought you? Seemed like we lost the mo, the Bears got it, and we had to hang on to win. Why not stay aggressive offensively? It almost cost us today and will in the playoffs. When you have a team down you have to finish them off, we have trouble doing that. But, we won so go Paack!

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MWendlandt's picture

December 15, 2019 at 05:36 pm

JFC, anyone reading the comments here would think the team lost and was 3-11. There are no style points on the scoreboard. And the only numbers that matter in the end are the ones under each team's name on that board. And 11 times in 14 games, the Packers have had the greater of the two numbers.

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stockholder's picture

December 15, 2019 at 05:37 pm

I had No doubt they would win. The doubt was the play of the Wrs. It won't do any good to change them now. Were going to live and die with them. Why blame Rodgers for how these guys are?. MVS couldn't track that ball in the air! Allison's injury has wrecked his confidence. Kumerow can't run a route right, and nearly stepped out. Lazard had No separation. Adams got double teamed. Not one knows how to beat the press.! While we may want Rodger's to throw better. The Truth is they can't beat the blitz. Rodger's loses faith in his ability and his protection. And when that happens, it opens Pandora's box. The packers need to start over. Nobody is a bust as long as their on the team. The answer is DON"T LET RODGERS DOWN! His confidence is only going to be as good as the WRS. It's up to them now. Because none of them are worth a Damn unless they want the ball.

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showmefan's picture

December 15, 2019 at 05:49 pm

It is time that all Packers fans realize that Rodgers is done being elite. Great run while it lasted but it is over. Too bad we have the albatross of a contract to be able to do any thing about it.

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edp1959's picture

December 15, 2019 at 06:24 pm

Speak for yourself and the other haters Skippy. I have plenty of confidence in #12.

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showmefan's picture

December 16, 2019 at 06:17 am

are you blind?

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Grandkraken's picture

December 15, 2019 at 05:55 pm

I am all about them playing only as hard as they have to for a win... but I also aged a number of years in the 4th and I can't really afford it. LOL

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PackfanNY's picture

December 15, 2019 at 06:02 pm

So let me get this straight. The Packers beat the Bears their arch rival 21-13. That officially ELIMINATED the Bears TODAY . The Packers are in position to WIN the North by beating the Vikings OR Lions. They are 11 (!!) and 3. Oh did I mention that given that the Rams are being crushed in Dallas the Packers will lock up a playoff spot TODAY for the first time in 3 years. All with a first year Head Coach. Yet some here are unhappy. SMH

How about a little perspective.

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Gort's picture

December 15, 2019 at 08:57 pm

I have perspective and reality too.
I am happy, but worried about getting embarrassed again, ala the Chargers and 49ers.

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porupack's picture

December 15, 2019 at 06:15 pm

To the above posters who complain about us whiners. Yeah, we're whiners alright. We actually spend 3 hours of our sunday intending to watch and enjoy good football. Instead we get big chunks of bad football, interspersed with some good. Yeah, we got another win. Chigo is no slouch team, and GB played some parts of that game really well; cutting down on penalties and the Oline neutralized the pass rush wonders; Khalil, etc.
But to watch good football, I have to switch over to other games.

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jannes bjornson's picture

December 15, 2019 at 08:10 pm

Like Rivers giving away the game to the purple along with 3-4 fumbles by the Bolt's RBs ???

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Gort's picture

December 16, 2019 at 12:32 pm

Welcome to our side of the fence.

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fthisJack's picture

December 15, 2019 at 06:17 pm

This is another one of those games where it should have been over in the 3rd quarter. lots of dropped passes killed drives and the CB/S dropped about 4 interceptions. They squandered great field position. D and O lines played well. we get ZERO from this TE group! Rodgers' play has deteriorated.

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