Gut Reactions: Packers fall to 49ers in preseason opener

Few long-term conclusions to draw from an uneven affair from Matt LaFleur's crew. 

  • Loved seeing a penalty of the very first kickoff of the preseason. We're back!
  • I don't get some of the hate I'm seeing for Jordan Love. The interception intended for Amari Rodgers was tough, but outside of that I thought he played well. 
  • I've already ordered my Romeo Doubs jersey. 
  • Tough night for Tyler Davis. Gotta catch that ball that ended up as an interception. 
  • Joisah Deguara got beat early on by an ILB who ended up making a stop, but he did a great job later on kicking out his guy on a wide run to the left. 
  • Danny Davis has had a really solid camp and took that work into the game tonight. That offside call was wild though. Our guy was like three yards into the secondary at the snap. Never seen anything like it.
  • I don't want Jake Hanson anywhere near the starting offensive line. 
  • Really nice showing from Samori Toure tonight.
  • Amari Rodgers looked solid as both a kick and punt returner. And really nice job getting into the endzone at the start of the 4th quarter.
  • Good to see how active Shemar Jean Charles was tonight.
  • Chris Slayton may just be a camp body, but he showed up tonight. 
  • I just ordered another Romeo Doubs jersey. 
  • Jack "Trash Can Full of Dirt" Heflin made a few nice plays tonight, picking up where he left off last preseason.
  • Hope Mason Crosby is back soon. 
  • Can't wait for all the overreactions. 
  • Go Pack Go. 
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ghostdog1108's picture

August 12, 2022 at 10:47 pm

Right on the money Aaron!

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KenEllis's picture

August 12, 2022 at 10:57 pm

Have not paid much attention to the Pack this offseason as I don't believe that a team with the 31st ranked receiving corps (by PFF) iis all that serious about competing for a Super Bowl and also did not watch tonight's opening pre-season game.

Wondering how 2021 3rd round pick Amari Rodgers, 2020 3rd round pick Josiah Degaura, TE Tyler Davis, 4h round pick Romeo Doubs and any other WR or TE who might see the field in 2022 performed?

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PackerAaron's picture

August 12, 2022 at 11:09 pm

I don't believe a fan who didn't watch the first preseason game is all that serious about being a fan, so we're similar in the sense of not believing in things.

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Rarescope's picture

August 13, 2022 at 12:27 am

Lol burrrrrrn. Apparently in addition to not paying any attention to the off-season Ken also didn’t read the article. Shut up about PFF rankings and order your Romeo Doubs jersey Ken :P

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barutanseijin's picture

August 13, 2022 at 01:46 am

You people just L O V E telling others how to be a fan.

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Bure9620's picture

August 13, 2022 at 08:20 am

Mic Drop!!

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Bure9620's picture

August 13, 2022 at 08:20 am

Mic Drop!!

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Nate-1980's picture

August 13, 2022 at 12:57 pm

I didn’t watch the first preseason game either I guess I’m not a true fan either.. Ha what a bunch of horseshite..:)

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Oppy's picture

August 14, 2022 at 08:40 am

Thanks for confirming how big of a putz you looked like roasting Love’s performance off a box score without having watched him play.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 12, 2022 at 11:47 pm

Amari Rodgers show better burst and agility than he had last year. Had some nice returns and took a little sideline pass in for a TD. I haven't been his biggest fan, but I have to re-assess him at least.

Deguara has one miscue and one nice block, and caught a short pass. Eh, he needs the starters so he can do his thing. Tyler Davis could not handle a high bullet from Love, and it deflected off his hands for an INT. I didn't see any other TE do much.

Doubs got open deep twice. The first time, he and Love couldn't connect (could be Doubs got slowed down by some incidental contact with the DB), but the other went for a nice TD. He also had some other nice receptions. He caught 3 for 45 yards and was pulled. He also drew a holding call on the DB. He had either one or two drops, depending on one's point of view. Drops are something that has been an issue for him. The questionable one was a pass that Love threw inside when it should have gone outside. Doubs twisted to face Love to adjust to the pass, and the ball hit both his hands. The adjustment meant Doubs was facing the DB, who got his hands on the ball and took it away from Doubs. Ruled an INT. I don't count it as an INT in Love's ledger (I do knock him for suboptimal ball placement). Place outside, Doubs' body is between the DB and the ball, making it hard for the DB to contest it and allowing Doubs to use his natural forward impetus to pick up the extra yard he needed for a first down. Whatever else, Doubs can get open. He played some X. He looked like an NFL receiver. Got 7 targets. People were complaining Love was locked in on Doubs like AR was locked in on Davante Adams last year, at least in the thread I was on.

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Coldworld's picture

August 12, 2022 at 11:57 pm

Winfree had a nice if unspectacular half. But Rodgers couldn’t get open at all in the first half. The big play in the second was him being schemed open in space: what he was good at at Clemson. That’s what I thought we drafted him for. As yet, that’s all he seems able to do based in first viewing. As soon as Toure and Davis got on the field we saw more open receivers. A good night for them, as LaFleur noted.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 13, 2022 at 12:30 am

That seems like a fair evaluation. Etling's pass was tipped, making the ball wobbly in the air. Amari did a nice job catching it and turning it upfield to get past that first defender.

IDK. Is PR (and KR, but there aren't that many kickoff returns anymore) plus being a gadget guy and a WR who might need to be schemed open enough for a roster spot? His contract does not preclude a release or trade. Stay tuned.

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Coldworld's picture

August 13, 2022 at 09:25 am

If we didn’t have Cobb there would be a role for a Rodgers type. He’s good at what we saw last night, particularly slimmed down. However, I think the real question there is is he better than others in the slot.

I think last night suggested no, except in the type of play where you get him the ball in space. I think that’s going to be something that they want to do with Watson, not really that many to go around. I also think that Goodson looks more and more like a slot option guy than a true RB.

This isn’t about being unable to play at all, but whether he is the best available option now and likely to be in the near future. Perhaps his most salient play was the return. It looks like they may be considering not using Doubs as Doubs offensive role seems to be growing. If so, that may be Rodgers route in.

As a pure receiver, they got better with Toure and D Davis. Winfree outplayed him. Just gets the job done. Davis legitimately teased that there might have been 3 more able, more versatile slot WRS in addition to Doubs playing last night. It’s notable perhaps that LaFleur last night singled out Toure and Davis as players that stood out on O while being somewhat tepid on Rodgers.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 13, 2022 at 12:42 am

Oh, Bmore mentioned that he didn't see Winfree play in the second half. If accurate, and I also think he sat out the second half, that could mean GB is more interested in Winfree than generally thought. It also could be that he tweaked something, or GB just wanted to see Toure and Davis more, having had Winfree last year.

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Rarescope's picture

August 13, 2022 at 12:33 am

Those of us watching the game together were also concerned about Doubsvision. Dad and I thought Etling looked more consistent than Love but he wasn’t really passing as much either. Love does seem to be forcing it and there was one wobbler that he was lucky that there were no defenders in the area for. Gotta chuck those into the stands man. Was surprised love didn’t play the whole game too.

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dobber's picture

August 13, 2022 at 02:53 pm

"Was surprised love didn’t play the whole game too."

I was happy that they didn't throw Luck out there with the reserve OL. He played mostly with the current 1s, and exposing him in the first PS game behind scrub 2-3 OLs would have been unnecessarily risky, I think.

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Since'61's picture

August 13, 2022 at 07:27 pm

Dobber I think you mean Love not Luck. Thanks, Since '61

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stockholder's picture

August 13, 2022 at 07:34 pm

Love=. CBS knows why. Read their assessment. STRUGGLED!

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HarryHodag's picture

August 13, 2022 at 06:23 am

Hey Ken,
As Frasier Crane once said, "what is the color of the sky in your world?"

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mrtundra's picture

August 13, 2022 at 08:02 am

Who the hell follows anything PFF says, anyway? You must still be lamenting the fact that Davante wanted to be traded. These young guys played well in last night's game. They are your WRs with Lazard, Cobb and whomever else was bubble wrapped for this game.

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Packers1985's picture

August 12, 2022 at 10:57 pm

Spot on Aaron. Though it's early to judge but our back up secondary is not up to the mark and looking at how Tyler Davis played tonight really hope Big bob is back soon.

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mrtundra's picture

August 13, 2022 at 08:09 am

Tyler Davis is better than what he showed, last night. He was the guy who made the tackle on the guy who intercepted the pass meant for him. The pass that should have been caught, I might add. What pisses me off is that INT and the Doubs INT( where he appeared to be down by contact, from the angle I saw) both counted as Love INTs. The only "real" INT, I feel that was Love's fault, was the forced pass, to a well covered Amari Rodgers. Overall, I thought Love did well for himself, last night.

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dobber's picture

August 13, 2022 at 02:58 pm

Tyler Davis had a game to forget, IMO. It seemed he got pushed around when playing in-line, and then that INT was pretty bad. He ran a good route, then seemed to be surprised to get the ball.

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Coldworld's picture

August 14, 2022 at 08:20 am

A rather nice way to put it. It can happen (Davante against Chicago is one that comes to mind), but that was a bad showing to a point that I can’t explain.

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Difer's picture

August 12, 2022 at 11:01 pm

"The interception intended for Amari Rodgers was tough, but outside of that I thought he played well."
What about the 2 other interceptions? QBR of 66? Nah, you're right - good game.

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PackerAaron's picture

August 12, 2022 at 11:10 pm

You mean the ones that literally hit his intended receivers? Never mind. Quoting QBR tells me all I need to know. Try watching the actual game next time.

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Bure9620's picture

August 13, 2022 at 08:31 am

I actually thought the throw to Davis was one of Love's best throws. He got the ball out quickly with lots of velocity not allowing the SF defender to collapse on the route. Unfortunately Davis made an atrocious play on the ball and it was picked.

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Coldworld's picture

August 13, 2022 at 10:56 am

Perfect height to bring down, turn and run too.

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dobber's picture

August 13, 2022 at 02:50 pm

Agreed. He had great position on the play and almost looked surprised to get the ball.

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Eric Zenk's picture

August 12, 2022 at 11:20 pm

IIf that was Rodgers you’d be making excuses for him. Rodgers wasn’t any better than love in year 3 thus far.

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 13, 2022 at 12:30 am

Rodgers also didn't play as much as Love did in year two. Forgive me in having much more faith in Rodgers learning from his mistakes at this point.

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Coldworld's picture

August 13, 2022 at 09:40 am

Watching Rodgers back then, you would have been one of few. Actually, Love’s stats at this point are marginally better than Rodgers’ were after similar magnets action.

I’m not going to rehash in detail something gone over many times, but Rodgers was 15/31 for 111 yards and no touchdowns in his first five games. He had one interception and a quarterback rating of 43.9.

Love has gone 36 of 62 for 411 yards at the same point. He had two touchdowns, three interceptions, and a 68.7 quarterback rating.

At similar points both showed inaccuracy, decision making questions and some technical questions. Both had some really good moments and some utter head scratchers. Both looked better on the good moments in their second camp but not to have shed the bad. Rodgers had people writing him off for exactly the reasons you do, more in fact because his first year showing had been so bad. You can dislike the pick all you want but rewriting history is not the way to do it.

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HarryHodag's picture

August 13, 2022 at 06:24 am

Only a person with blinders on could lay the first two interceptions on Love.

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Coldworld's picture

August 13, 2022 at 09:42 am

Just watching the one to T. Davis. In front of the eyes catch. Not even high. Ugh. Davis really did not have a good night.

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PewAuKeeFan's picture

August 13, 2022 at 07:58 am

Difer... not very bright, are you?

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dobber's picture

August 13, 2022 at 03:01 pm

There's just a lot of people out there who are making judgements based on a box score, not on the game itself.

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PackyCheese500's picture

August 13, 2022 at 10:08 am

The first two were bounce-ceptions and not really Love’s fault. I thought he played decently.

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ImaPayne's picture

August 13, 2022 at 11:13 am

He did throw and errant ball that bounced off a helmit or something so the interception is on him, he wastn close to the target. He had a lot of those throws in the game.

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dobber's picture

August 13, 2022 at 03:47 pm

"he wastn close to the target."

You mean the pass that went through Davis' hands and hit him on the shoulder pad? This isn't America's Funniest Home Videos---they're not supposed to get hit in the groin.

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kozmo's picture

August 12, 2022 at 11:30 pm

I thought Love played well....Much better than he has in the past. Showed a strong arm and after the first drive was fairly accurate. This game for Love gave me some hope for him. BIG improvement over last year

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Rarescope's picture

August 13, 2022 at 12:38 am

I did see him put a lot of mustard on one of those brats! If he can just start to throw more of those he might start to look a little Favreish. Plenty of work to do still but saw a couple nice throws.

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 13, 2022 at 12:41 am

Still very inaccurate at times. Dude seems incapable of stacking success. Practice to practice, game to game, he's just an inconsistent player. I'm sure he'll play better next week because that's what he does but I'm tired of the excuses for him. To me it doesn't look like he spent a lot of time in the film room looking to correct his mistakes h made in the regular season last year. At best you could say he looked very average against an easy to decipher defense. No blitzes, 2 or 3 coverages tops. Not good.

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Coldworld's picture

August 13, 2022 at 09:51 am

So just like Rodgers in his second preseason. Get over it. The point is were the highs higher and the lows less frequent? As I argued back then with Rodgers, they were. They had moved further in right direction a year later but he still had lows. That’s what happens, improvement isn’t a straight line it’s a saw tooth.

Some positives for Love. He’s ahead of last year. Let’s see what things look like after a bigger sample in three weeks or so because I think the only thing that can be justifiably said is that last night was inconclusive.

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JohnnyLogan's picture

August 13, 2022 at 11:00 am

Wish people would stop defending Love by comparing him to Rodgers's 2nd year. There is no comparison. Rodgers threw and throws a much better ball. He was the most accurate passer coming out of college I've ever seen. He chopped up national champion USC throwing 22 straight completions. His draft day drop to the Packers is one of the great mysteries of all time, comparable to "Was there a real King Arthur?" Rodgers tool kit didn't just "develop" he arrived with a Hall of Fame arm and head. Love is not in that stratosphere.

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jont's picture

August 13, 2022 at 12:12 pm

👍

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fastmoving's picture

August 13, 2022 at 12:52 pm

OMG, 12 came here with bad mechanics and holding the ball to low. We dont have to talk about his head with all his chemtrail, Horse dewurmer, flatearth stuff.
He was a bad leader at the beginning and I remember Chistl did a piece like he pointed at the O line for his own mistakes.
Dont now if the arm making up for all that. But did he carried us thrue the playoffs a lot???

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Coldworld's picture

August 14, 2022 at 08:18 am

I can only assume some of these posters weren’t around or watching early Rodgers.

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dobber's picture

August 13, 2022 at 06:25 pm

I just wish people would quit comparing the two, in general.

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Coldworld's picture

August 14, 2022 at 08:43 am

Just because Rodgers transformed his technique and play radically over 3/4 seasons doesn’t mean Love can. However, it does very clearly show that a player nearly everyone thought was a total bust after one year can, gradually, become a star.

Given the range of certainties cited about Love and the assertion that he isn’t good now and obviously won’t be, it’s an obvious comparison in terms of the length of time, the technical changes (and interim regressions) and the up and down nature of the path from bad to intriguing to competence and later excellence.

Rodgers looked very similar in his second preseason. Bad and good and head scratching all intermingled, but he showed intermittent flashes of something beyond the normal. Love seems to me to be similar in both path, needs and current play. That’s why I continue to sit in the fence and defend that against the prematurely certain and those who I think want him to fail to suit their own narrative of the team or Rodgers. It’s a valid analogy for those who have seen both.

As a relatively early believer in Rodgers, I will say that I am not there with Love. For me that will take a few more dramatic wow moments than we have seen interspersed regularly in games or truly contested situations. Practice suggests that these might be close (he’s made some there this year), but as yet he’s not showing the highs of a similar level under real pressure (not just Defenders but circumstances too).

He’s progressed this year but he has yet to establish that there is lightning somewhere in that bottle. He needs to break out and assert through play that he can put it all together (likely interspersed with down periods initially).

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Nate-1980's picture

August 13, 2022 at 02:04 pm

Well said LL CHESTY , but don’t worry he could throw 5 picks and the excuses will still be there for love with this group..:)

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Coldworld's picture

August 14, 2022 at 08:50 am

Your earlier comment on this thread: “I didn’t watch the first preseason game” probably doesn’t help your credibility in making a comment like that.

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Festvangelist's picture

August 13, 2022 at 09:35 am

I just am not impressed with his accuracy, he should have that down by now. Athletically he has the tools but at best he is a back up QB that could keep a team viable until an injured starting QB gets back in the line up. Unless he steps up his accuracy I cannot believe he is the long term answer.

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HawkPacker's picture

August 13, 2022 at 10:46 am

"at best he is a back up QB"? Really? You can come to that conclusion already? You are quite the visionary. Maybe the packers can just release him. Would that work for you?

Actually, I was quite impressed with his performance. I thought he had a better handle on leading the team and I do like how he can zip his passes when needed. Last year, I did not see that at all. So, right there are two improvements from last year. I believe what he needs is to be able to play more to get better. I admit, at this time, I can't determine just how good he can/will be but we need to be patient.

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Coldworld's picture

August 12, 2022 at 11:32 pm

Etling deserves some praise too. He’s worth a PS berth.

Goodson is not really impressive as a running back but he could be as some kind of option type.

Do we start to wrap Doubs in cotton wool or get him more targets and experience?

I thought McDuffie probably earned a spot on the roster tonight. Ento might have got himself back in contention.

Not seeing much dispositive from the back up OLBS, but Garvin should be one.

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stockholder's picture

August 12, 2022 at 11:36 pm

Etling was the better QB. Guys got legs, and reads the defense. I hope we get to see more of him.

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Oppy's picture

August 13, 2022 at 12:16 am

Etling was the better qb? Lol

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HawkPacker's picture

August 13, 2022 at 10:47 am

Oppy, actually, I thought he did a pretty good job but I believe we need to get Love more game play this preseason.

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Oppy's picture

August 13, 2022 at 11:37 am

I thought he did well with the opportunities given him as well.

Now that THAT is out of the way, I just can't wait for the swell of people who will insist that Etling is clearly a better QB than Jordan Love, and he is clearly an NFL-caliber QB who would be playing if the Packers weren't artificially holding him back for political reasons- like they insisted with Kurt Benkert (still dangling in the void as a free agent as I type this) and Tim Boyle before him (who had very poor showings for DET when forced into action last season, and currently taking a backseat to David Blough, an undrafted QB in 2019 out of Purdue who never won a starting QB position for the boilermakers.)

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dobber's picture

August 13, 2022 at 03:07 pm

He threw 8 passes in a half of football, and was the beneficiary of a couple catch-and-runs that blew up his numbers. Maybe Tim Boyle is available.

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Oppy's picture

August 13, 2022 at 12:16 am

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Rarescope's picture

August 13, 2022 at 12:40 am

He did seem calmer and less hurried in scanning the defense. I wonder how much of that was play calling though - seemed like Love was getting more opportunities for explosive plays while Etling was given more of the war of attrition game plan.

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Bure9620's picture

August 13, 2022 at 08:26 am

Etling played agaisnt all 3rd teamers. Players whom will not be in the NFL.

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Oppy's picture

August 13, 2022 at 11:39 am

Nice to see someone gets it.

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stockholder's picture

August 13, 2022 at 07:28 pm

Etling has been around. He wouldn't be here if someone didn't want to give him a chance. He' might be ready to make the most of it.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 12, 2022 at 11:59 pm

Agree on Etling and McDuffie. Goodson didn't help himself enough. I know Kobe Jones made a play, but otherwise I didn't notice him. Slayton was surprisingly strong and active. Wilborn made one nice play, but had a penalty (IIRC). I didn't notice the OLBs. Heflin did his job and made some plays. I missed Gileai's sack. The OL's pass pro was not terrible. Right side had problems with the run. Hanson with two hands to the face penalties, one accepted, one declined. I don't think he is a starting guard based on this outing. He has time. I guess SF played some starters. Doesn't look like the line can pick up a yard when it is necessary.

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 13, 2022 at 12:47 am

I looked it up, Galeai's sack came in the 49ers 2nd drive, so against 1s or high 2s. I'm not sure about him as a DPR but I think he makes the team. Garvin played the run pretty well as last year went on IMO so maybe Barry can pick and choose when Gary and Preston get breathers.

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Swisch's picture

August 13, 2022 at 12:02 am

I thought Goodson was impressive at running back, showing the shiftiness that has been commented upon here at CHTV.
I hope he gets plenty more opportunities this preseason.

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Coldworld's picture

August 13, 2022 at 12:15 am

As a conventional rb I don’t see vision or power or an ability to use blockers. Get him the ball in space and yes. I think he’d be an ideal Ervin type.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 13, 2022 at 12:38 am

I think the FO likes Patrick Taylor, who just returned from an injury, so I am not concerned about Taylor's production tonight. I didn't mean to imply that I was counting Goodson out. Plenty of time for him to show it on the field. Goodson has some good selling points to tout. He can cut, he has some burst, he is fast enough, and he can catch. Show vision, pass pro and break a tackle now and again, and choices will be tough at cut downs.

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mrtundra's picture

August 13, 2022 at 08:15 am

I thought both Goodson and Baylor played well, for the Packers last night. Goodson is fast. If it were Goodson, instead of Baylor on that nice 68 yard gain, he may have scored. I'll take Goodson's and Baylor's efforts, though. Solid playing by two UDFAs.

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ImaPayne's picture

August 13, 2022 at 11:14 am

Lets start Etling for a half and see how he does in front of Love. Something needs to stir up Love he is taking things for granted and not earning his place.

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stockholder's picture

August 12, 2022 at 11:36 pm

No, just No! To the Love! He's not a NFL QB. Final Decision.
Amari Rodger's TD was nice. But I wouldn't throw to him, unless he's got 4 steps on the defender.
Gutey needs to find better. If HE can find Douglass, get busy. Especially on the right side.

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kozmo's picture

August 12, 2022 at 11:37 pm

Too early to make that evaluation...Again he played pretty well....receivers have to catch the ball....they didnt

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stockholder's picture

August 12, 2022 at 11:44 pm

I saw too many high throws. I get if it hits their hands, it must be caught. Cut the RBS.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 13, 2022 at 12:13 am

Love looked better. He did have some high throws, and some accuracy issues here and there. He had some real nice passes. Jury remains out, for me.

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 13, 2022 at 12:48 am

Jameis Winston

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Coldworld's picture

August 13, 2022 at 11:00 am

That red zone one that hit TE Davis should have been caught. Had it been the whole stat line shifts. That said, the best I can say is that his good was better than last year.

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HarryHodag's picture

August 13, 2022 at 06:26 am

Really? Love's not an NFL QB? Who is... Brett Hundley?

Trevor Lawrence, first pick in the draft, didn't look all that good last year. I guess he should be 'fired' too?

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dobber's picture

August 13, 2022 at 07:38 am

I suspect you wrote that first sentence about 5 pm yesterday afternoon.

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Bure9620's picture

August 13, 2022 at 08:27 am

His TD was to Romeo Doubs

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Bure9620's picture

August 13, 2022 at 08:27 am

His TD was to Romeo Doubs

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ImaPayne's picture

August 13, 2022 at 08:46 am

I agree, last night showed Love is not QB material and if they think he is the answer to Rodgers, fans will be in a long long losing period that blackens the pride of GB.

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stockholder's picture

August 13, 2022 at 11:24 am

Exactly.

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Oppy's picture

August 13, 2022 at 11:53 am

I believe Love is capable of winning a lot of games with this GBP team.

If anyone believes the Packers are likely to unearth "the next Aaron Rodgers" within the next 30 years, they're already marking themselves as an idiot. Just like anyone who complains a player isn't as good as Nick Collins, or Charles Woodson, or Reggie White.

The Packers don't need to find "the answer to Rodgers", they need to find the QB of the future who can work within the system with his team mates and win games. A generational talent is a luxury, not a requirement.

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TarynsEyes's picture

August 12, 2022 at 11:40 pm

I saw some of what many clamored about Doubs, but I see that he may have trying times against better defenders.

Loves' play was OK, but I wouldn't be hoping for Rodgers to retire just yet.

Amari Rodgers help his cause, now he needs to have consistency.

OL is what many thought they would be tonight.

Overall, some good things, more bad things, nothing decided, less Doubs made the 53, a step above by default.

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stockholder's picture

August 12, 2022 at 11:49 pm

Count the high throws. And the adjustments on them. Love was lucky he wasn't picked more.

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TarynsEyes's picture

August 13, 2022 at 12:02 am

I get it, but it's a waste of time to think Etling is taking the backup role from Love.

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stockholder's picture

August 13, 2022 at 12:08 am

Yep- I hear ya.

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Oppy's picture

August 13, 2022 at 12:19 pm

You are correct, and let me expand on WHY it's a waste of time.

Danny Etling is a 5th year player, drafted in the 7th round of the 2018 NFL Draft.

In the last 5 years, Etling has been on 8 different teams (including a CFL team) and has never made a team's active roster (Including the aforementioned BC Lions, where he was released after 3 weeks.)

He is a career practice squad arm. After his rookie season, he even attempted to make a transition to WR to increase his odds of sticking with an NFL team (although he reverted back to chasing his dream of QB).

I am not attempting to bash or slander the young man. Just to be continually asked to camps and play on Practice Squads means he's a good QB with value to an NFL team.

What I AM attempting to do, is point out that this ridiculous habit Packers fans have of trying to compare obvious practice squad / camp arm level talent to being equal to whoever the current Packers back up QB is, is both silly and a clear indicator that perhaps most fans aren't NFL talent evaluators for a good reason.

Danny Etling will likely not be in the NFL after 2022. Much Like kurt benkert before him. Even if Jordan Love does not stick as the Packers QB in 2023, he will likely be at least a back up QB on an NFL active roster somewhere for the next 3-5 years. There's a clear difference in talent level.

Packers fans need to stop this craziness. I thought Etling did a nice job with the opportunities presented him. He does not have starting QB talent. I do not believe Packers fans are seeing something that 7 different NFL teams' scouting departments (*Correction: 6 NFL teams, 1 CFL team) and coaching staffs failed to sniff out. Etling is a good QB who has camp arm level talent. His NFL career is likely over after this year. I wish him the best of luck as a future position coach or whatever direction his life takes him. He does not have the talent of Jordan Love.

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13TimeChamps's picture

August 13, 2022 at 03:53 pm

Thank you! No idea why this needs to be explained, but obviously it does.

Every preseason there is a Danny Etling creating excitement while playing against 3rd stringers, just like Benkert and Boyle in recent years. Boyle was being touted by some on here as the next big thing simply because GB decided to redshirt Love due to weird extenuating (Covid) circumstances his first year and elevate Boyle to primary backup. It had NOTHING to do with Boyle being considered more talented than Love. Boyle was absolutely horrible with Detroit last year.

But rest assured, next preseason there will be another camp arm playing against 3rd stringers putting up meaningless, pretty, empty stats to get fans all excited for no reason. Such is preseason football.

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Coldworld's picture

August 13, 2022 at 09:57 am

Like the one to Davis, in front of the eyes? You do know that’s an ideal place to catch and turn?

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mrtundra's picture

August 13, 2022 at 08:27 am

The back-up OL was what many thought they would be. Shuffling people all over the OL, all game long, makes it harder to evaluate who is playing well, and where. I thought Van Lanen played well, last night, for the limited time he was in. How many times was Love or Etling sacked? Hopefully Bakh and Elgton are back sooner, than later. Did Rhyan get injured? He appeared to get up slowly after a play, but the camera broke away from him, so I did not see if he made it off the field, on his own power, or not. Our rookie WRs all played well, last night. TDs by Doubs and Danny Davis. Toure made a couple of nice catches. Amari scored on a nice diving attempt at the pylon, in the 4th Quarter to tie the game, plus he had the best return of his career of 50 yards, to ignite the team.

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PatB's picture

August 13, 2022 at 08:50 am

I saw Rhyan back on the field later.

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Swisch's picture

August 12, 2022 at 11:58 pm

Just fun to watch football!
I'm not surprised at there being some mistakes out there in the first preseason game, and it is indeed difficult to make definitive evaluations based on this game; with that in mind, I like the looks of Love, Goodson, Doubs, Amari, Toure and Davis.
I'm looking forward to the continuation of their stories, and those of other Packers, in the next two preseason games.
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It seems one could say the same thing about both Love and Doubs: some promising moments to go along with some off plays.
Yet, I wonder if fans will pan Love and praise Doubs based on prior perceptions that are based on scant evidence.
My early impression is that both are going to be really good players in the NFL.

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HawkPacker's picture

August 13, 2022 at 10:56 am

"My early impression is that both are going to be really good players in the NFL." I think you are correct. I was really pleased with Amari as well after being so totally disappointed last year. I hope he keeps it up.

I mentioned in an earlier comment that I was pleased with Love but I believe he needs more game experience. If Rodgers is not going to play this preseason or very little, then I would like to see Love play about three quarters of a game instead of just a half. Let Etling play just one quarter. We have seen enough of Etling, and I thought he played well, but we need to get Love more game experience IMHO.

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wildbill's picture

August 13, 2022 at 12:48 am

I think the part I like best is I don’t think there were any bad injuries. I enjoy preseason games as I like watching the young guys fighting to follow their dream. The 49ers played a lot of veterans so I feel our guys held up well. Still have concerns about the O/L but excited that it’s Packer football time!

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croatpackfan's picture

August 13, 2022 at 04:21 am

After I watched game twice my feelings are divided. There was some good, very good and some bad. But that was expected.

Jordan Love looks very nervous to me. Maybe that is what should be expected as he knows what we all knows. He need to show substantial progress this season. But my opinion is that he looks more sattled down as game was running. He had same nice reads and throws, but also some suspectible decisions. I also believe he will need to work on long throws ball zip. And stop trying to threw the ball over high jumping high defender. He need to learn to use jump of defeder to pass him and get the easy yards with that. For those who are complaining on Jordan Love's high ball, sometimes those kind of throws is the only option you have to get the ball to your receiver. AR use those throws, too. You know. And WR must catch those balls (that type of throws are also in job description of ball catchers).

Romeo Doubs showed us that he is work in progress, but he belongs at this level. Winfree was OK, but he also made mistake that might lead to another INT, luckily for Packers he manage to catch ball deflected from his hands.

Toure & D. Davis announced their battle for place on 53. T. Davis has a lot of potential. Amari showed substantial progress, and RBs are far away from AJ & AJD.

OL can buy the most 2 sec only before pocket start to collaps and it frequently happens from the right side.

D was mess by my opinion, but it is also understandable. You have several starters' back ups, the rest of are just JAGS or ST teamers. I'm especially disappointed with run defense.

All together, with so many rookies and 1st year Packers players (all those with NFL experience who are playing 1st time for Packers), score is expected.

ST are slighty better compared with last season, but still liability. Maybe reduced roster and more time will show growth...

At this moment I doubt any of us can predict with 100% the complete 53 roster.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 13, 2022 at 07:03 am

I agree with most of this. I think you are a little harsh in general. Like one standard deviation more harsh than is warranted, but I could be wrong. I thought the defensive line looked tough. Heflin, Slaton, Slayton, even Ford despite his holding penalty, looked like guys who can play. GB gave up 3.6 yards per rush. Hasty and Mason were a lot quicker than expected. Scat back types running the ball, which led to a couple of 9 and 14 yard runs. Not as high on the LBs and DBs. Individually, Jean-Charles and McDuffie looked worth keeping. Kobe Jones looked like a guy to watch next week.

I thought Winfree made a great play. Passes that sail completely over the head of the WR often get picked. He leapt up just to knock it down, and was able to catch his deflection. A nice display of a WR playing defense when his QB throws a truly errant high pass.

STs: depends on how one looks at it. I don't expect Rich B to make long-time veteran O'Donnell significantly better, or for him to fix the many issues Brkic has, in just three weeks plus OTAs. I do expect better coverage on punts and kicks, and better results when GB returns kickoffs and punts. I think GB got better in those areas. SF averaged 17.8 yards per kickoff return (long was 28) and returned one punt for 7 yards. That's good, overall. GB was about the same but amari broke a kickoff return for 50 yards, and he had lots of space opened up for him.

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Coldworld's picture

August 13, 2022 at 11:29 am

Very much in agreement with you on Winfree. Just watched that again. Those are the plays that make QBs love you. Winfree just seemed to get to a place to make a play remarkably consistently as well.

Davis really surprised me last night. I want to see more, but that was an impressive showing. However, looking again, I’m just as surprised at how well Winfree did the little things consistently. Toure just seems able to get open and to have that athletic edge. More of him please.

Rodgers return looks like a bit of a gift on reviewing, albeit one well taken. I guess not only our STs aren’t finished articles yet. To be honest, other than a lousy FG attempt, I didn’t see too
Much to gripe about just based on this game and I didn’t notice Coco having obvious issues (unlike their LS).

They really need to play those back up D backs together as a unit. . Thought I saw a lot of coverage mistakes (exploited and not) and confusion. Fortunately that’s going to happen in the coming weeks. I think Ento strengthened his case. I didn’t see SJC tested in the ways I was hoping to see.

I think McDuffie is near a lock at this point. I’m still confused by how and where Barnes fits in their minds. Certainly looked like McDuffie was number 3 and the guy who best fits the way the top 2 will play.

I did not see how Slayton handled the run—that’s the weak part of his game oddly (echoes of Slaton, whom I thought looked good). I did not think Ford had as good a showing as I’d hoped, but I did see potential. These guys need more than one viewing.

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Oppy's picture

August 13, 2022 at 01:10 pm

I have not re-watched the WInfree tap up of the high pass, but during real-time viewing my first question was "Is there a defender deep?"

Upon initial viewing, my concern is there was not a safety over the top of Winfree. A WR needs to have that level of awareness - it comes with experience and can also be an innate skill. If Winfree was over the top of the defense, he should have let that ball sail. If there was a safety over the top, then I would agree that tipping it would be better than letting it sail.

So, the question for those that have the ability to re-watch the play: Was there a defender over the top? If not, the tip of that ball is a negative play for Winfree, not a positive, despite the outcome. It's a negative throw for Love either way.

Edit: let me clarify, I know Winfree had a defender on top of him, I mean another defender deeper down the field. If there wasn't a second defender deep, he should have let that ball sail.

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dobber's picture

August 13, 2022 at 03:17 pm

"Davis really surprised me last night. I want to see more, but that was an impressive showing. "

Jared Abbrederis 2.0.

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croatpackfan's picture

August 14, 2022 at 03:44 am

D. Davis, WR not T. Davis, TE

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Coldworld's picture

August 14, 2022 at 08:59 am

You may be right, which is why I want to see more. I was thinking more of Kumerow personally, but we won’t know till he plays and plays against better opponents. That said, he got open and made plays on very few targets. Enough to merit further watching (I’d largely dismissed him till then).

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croatpackfan's picture

August 14, 2022 at 04:12 am

TGR, I tend to be to harsh on first outing. And yes, result overall is very good. Only one TD difference. And achieve to score 3 TD.

If I'm to harsh in my assesment, that is because I believe in those players that they can play much better than they did vs 49ers.

Regarding DL I know that they did not play much together, and it is not about 3.6 yards per carry what worries me, it is short yardage on 3 and 1 theyn had most of the failures. When you know they will be running, you have to prepare yourself for it. And be better.

Regarding Winfree deflection, I might be wrong, but it looks to me that Jordan Love targeted him with high throw, because he was blanket by 49ers DB. And I suspect that, if he catch the ball, he might have open field in front of him. Anyhow I agree with assesment that in some occasions Jordan Love still tend to havr less precise throws or he still has tendencies for "hero balls" what is mistake. Take the 1 yard and live for another try.

My comment on ST was not against RB, but bad coverages from some plaxers playing in the game. Gaford is not KR or PR, for sure. Amari showed he starting to understand where to go and how. Still, long way to go.

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GregC's picture

August 13, 2022 at 05:27 am

Nice recap by Aaron. I agree with all of it except I'm not as concerned about Jake Hanson. Here are my own takes:

The starting OL was the big concern coming into the game, but I thought they played well. Pass protection was very good and run blocking was pretty good. I didn't see any catastrophic errors. The only big negative was that they were ineffective in short yardage situations.

Jordan Love made a lot of good plays, and I liked how he moved around in the pocket. There were issues with accuracy and decision-making at times, but he looked better than he did last year. The first interception was thrown too hard but still should've been caught by Tyler Davis, and it was bad luck for the ball to bounce straight up into the air. The second one was a good pass that should've been caught by Doubs but was wrestled away by the defender. Based on the couple of replays they showed on TV, I thought the officials were wrong to overturn the call on the field. The third interception was Love's fault--a throw over the middle to a receiver who was not open at all. The back shoulder throw to Danny Davis for the TD was Love's best play.

Good to see Amari Rodgers looking faster and more confident. The fact that he was playing in the fourth quarter means he is not a roster lock, but he passed the test in this game.

Romeo Doubs was impressive, although he had some missed opportunities. Samori Toure and Danny Davis also looked good. Winfree had a few catches too. There may be a case for keeping 7 WRs, although it is too early to tell.

The D-line (all backups) looked pretty good. The 49ers got two long TDs on blown coverages. I think the second one was Rico Gafford's fault, but I'm not sure who blew the first one. Both times, poor #6, Dallin Leavitt, was left all alone and the WRs ran right past him. Later he made a good play to force a fumble but got injured when he made the hit. It looked like an arm injury. Rough night for him.

Shemar Jean-Charles and Keisean Nixon both looked pretty good in coverage and with tackling.

I didn't see the top two backup safeties (Vernon Scott and Shawn Davis) do anything, but I don't think they had opportunities. Their lack of visibility may have been a positive.

The backup OLBs all looked decent, although none of them really stood out. Kingsley Enegbare looked fast coming around the edge on one play late in the game. We haven't been hearing much about him in practice.

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HarryHodag's picture

August 13, 2022 at 06:37 am

SF ran it's first string against one starter on the Packers defense.

Imagine a line with David B., E. Jenkins, Myers, Newman and Nijman protecting Love. Imagine Aaron Jones and A.J. Dillon behind him. Imagine Alan Lazard, Sammy Watkins, etc. catching passes. Imagine Mercedes Lewis at tight end. Imagine Stokes, Alexander, Amos, and Savage in the defensive secondary.

So what does this game tell you? We're a long way from seeing the real Green Bay Packers. It was fun to watch, especially Doubs and Toure, T.J. Slayton was an animal on the defensive line, notice Q. Walker making all the defensive calls? Nice to see some of the back ups play hard on the offensive line, but I agree with Aaron, Hanson needs work. The backups in the defensive secondary need lots of work.

Etling showed he can play.

It was a fun exhibition game, that's it.

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murf7777's picture

August 13, 2022 at 08:06 am

I believe their two best offensive weapons were sitting. Kittle and Deebo sat, I think their first string RB didn’t play either. I’m not familiar with all their players, but they didn’t play all starters by any means. As you know, these games are meaningless for who wins/loses, but certainly we did learn something’s about our fringe players.

Yes, like some TJ Slayton, I think he could be an x-factor this year. Since college he’s been known to be able to cause havoc upfield, now we need to see him become a force in the run game. Take that proverbial jump please!

Didn’t really see much from our two first rounders and don’t think they played all that much.

ST’s were noticeably better. Slimmed down Rodgers just might be the real deal for PR & KR.. Also, very impressive catch and run. HIs impressive inside out cut was the difference of ball placed on the 8 yd or a TD.

I also like BJ Baylor, he showed up on family night and again this game. Goodson didn’t impress me.

Heflin will be a tough cut. His effort is exceptional.

Love looked much more decisive and looked like he belonged. Still has a ways to go, but the tools are there to be successful. If Davis catches that pass that ended up INT Love might’ve scored another TD. That would’ve given him 3 TD’s with only 1 INT. We all would’ve taken that with a smile on our faces. I don’t count the INT that was reversed, Doubs caught it and was down.

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Coldworld's picture

August 13, 2022 at 11:03 am

Wyatt was out after his recent concussion and Quay played a couple of drives.

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TarynsEyes's picture

August 13, 2022 at 11:20 am

"Doubs caught it and was down."

No he didn't and No he wasn't. The replay was clear. It was close, but clearly correct to overturn the reception.

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murf7777's picture

August 13, 2022 at 01:32 pm

I must’ve missed that angle shot, but either way it wasn’t LOve’s fault.

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dobber's picture

August 13, 2022 at 03:33 pm

...and Danny Davis' TD was an underthrown ball that he made a nice adjustment to and turned into a TD. Against a better DB, it shouldn't have been a completion, but it was and counts as a TD on Love's stats. What comes around goes around.

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Coldworld's picture

August 14, 2022 at 09:11 am

Actually, I’m probably more in disagreement about that statement.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 13, 2022 at 11:31 am

The snap count article is out. I looked at SF -they didn't play starters much at all, unless one counts Trey Lance. I don't.

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mrtundra's picture

August 13, 2022 at 08:40 am

Larry McCarren alluded that Etling looks like a scrapper, a back yard QB looking to make a play. I have to agree with Larry. I though Etling played well, last night. I wish Danny Davis did not get the offsides call on him, when Etling went on the 4th and 1 and made it. I did not see Davis's penalty, on that play. That loft to Baylor, for 68 yards was a thing of beauty. Our UDFAs made cases for themselves, last night. The best thing was that there were no major injuries.

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Festvangelist's picture

August 13, 2022 at 09:43 am

I seriously doubt if David B. ever plays again. It is going on over 20 months since he had surgery for a non contact injury in practice occurred. Wish he fully recovers but I am not hopeful on his return to the Packer’s.

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Lphill's picture

August 13, 2022 at 07:01 am

Its only the first game some good some bad performances lets see if they build off this and make the proper adjustments next game, go Pack go!

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DavidRogers0000's picture

August 13, 2022 at 07:26 am

I think the part I like best

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Alsupra's picture

August 13, 2022 at 07:50 am

Great summary Nags! I thought Love looked like a #1 Draft choice. Without the missed passed that lead to INT wonder if he would have gotten another TD or 2! Can't wait for 12 to throw to 87!

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ImaPayne's picture

August 13, 2022 at 11:17 am

Were you drinking a lot? Love is awful. The Niners comaparable one draft pick threaded the needle and looked very sharp for a guy who hasnt play squat in two years. No comparison between the two.
Love is struggling mentally with the game still after three years.

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Oppy's picture

August 13, 2022 at 12:59 pm

1. you are basically a Vikings fan.

2. You have no idea what you're talking about.

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dobber's picture

August 13, 2022 at 06:31 pm

With this guy everyone is either really stupid or put on weight and is playing too heavy.

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Crankbait's picture

August 13, 2022 at 07:51 am

What I saw last night was San Francisco special teams kicking our special teams ass.
The rest of the game was fun to watch except for our secondary getting burned and our turnovers. I was really pleasantly surprised with our line play I thought both sides did a good job.

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Crystalblue1's picture

August 13, 2022 at 08:11 am

Kicked our asses?The niners averaged 17.3 yards out of four kick offs.That’s VERY GOOD FROM OUR UNIT AND WE HAD THE LONGEST RUN OF THE NIGHT.Aside from an absolute shank from a kicker who at this point is just a camp body.Everything else was MUCH BETTER Not sure what you watched to think their ST wooped ours.None of the numbers or eye test validate this response

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GregC's picture

August 13, 2022 at 10:11 am

Not sure what you were looking at. Our backup kicker badly missed a field goal, but that doesn't really count. The 49ers had a kickoff return out to about the 36, but the Packers had one to around midfield. The punting game was a wash. Special teams were basically even.

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Crystalblue1's picture

August 13, 2022 at 08:04 am

Oh fans of the GreenBay Packers really are something.First preseason of the game where Frisco played a lot of first and second stringers for a few drives against aside from our oline most will be cut,PS and some depth pieces on our 53.Them first two ints were based simply on the wideout not finishing their assignment.These preseason games have zero to do fwith our regular season.They play to evaluate a ‘few players’ for the 53.They sat 33 so that should tell u everything u needs to know.Some highs and lows just like with the other team.This next game we evaluate again.NO this isn’t OMG WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO.Vanilla offense,vanilla defense and again ZERO to do about the regular season.Make a list of players who sat and you shall calm your (for no reason)nerves.Every preseason game had literally the same crap plays and good plays.Your opinions are laughable well some of them anyways and I’d bet almost every ridiculous comment are from people who have never played a down of any type of ball or don’t know any of the nuances of actual organized football.But it’s ok every fan base has them but folks give it a rest ENJOY THE DAM GAME.U people are more upset then the actual players,you all need to ask yourself wtf am I losing sleep over this for.Anyways very excited for the coming season.Great no serious injuries.GOOACKGO

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 13, 2022 at 10:55 am

Shouldn't that be Goo Ack Goo? I think the only one here having a hemorrhage is you. Nobody is freaking out the season is lost like you want to seem to blame them of.

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egbertsouse's picture

August 13, 2022 at 08:06 am

Love has almost eliminated that baseball wind-up, Clements might be getting through that haze that seems to surround Love, he never looks like his head is in the game. Kind of like Jay Cutler, without the cigarette. He was still outplayed by Etling.

Pass rush looked good throughout the game.

Still can’t get 4th and a foot, even against scrubs.

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jont's picture

August 13, 2022 at 12:26 pm

"Kind of like Jay Cutler, without the cigarette."

Love wasn't great, but this is a little harsh. Very funny, but....

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Oppy's picture

August 13, 2022 at 01:06 pm

Stop with the Etling outplayed Love stuff.

This "haze" surrounding Jordan Love.. Did you watch the KC game last year? That's not haze, he was actually pretty sharp. Under extreme duress, he almost always knew where his safety outlets were, and when he didn't have the time or they weren't open, he almost always knew exactly where he could ditch the ball safely at the feet of "eligible receivers".

Yeah, that all shows up on the stat sheet as incomplete passes, but what it demonstrated was a young QB on a short week of work who actually understood nuance of his offense and despite running for his life kept his wits about him and made generally good decisions to protect the ball despite poor or no options to get the ball out.

He may not be "the answer" but he's demonstrated so much more than most fans give him credit for.

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Packers0808's picture

August 13, 2022 at 08:09 am

I liked Etling a lot. PS would be a good place for him if not on team if Love let go. Last night I believe for playing against mostly SF vets and packers all young not to concerned at all. The Packers held up relatively well. After watching J Hanson I would think if no one else shows up already on team the wires will be watched to bring in veteran like last couple years. Too bad Turner couldn't have been kept!

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dobber's picture

August 13, 2022 at 08:15 am

My $0.02 worth...

Love was better than he was v. Detroit (and he should be, of course). I thought he was throwing the ball with more confidence. Most people who are panning him are doing so based on the box score or QBR. I won't rehash the INTs except to say that only one was on him. In all, with the exception of the first drive, the offense moved when he was on the field. He checked down and took the passes given to him. I thought it was a positive in general, but he did play mostly with the #1 OL and with #4 and below pass-catchers. He was good with his legs...I was encouraged by that.

The OL was OK. I thought they gave Etling and Love enough time to do something, but they struggled to open much in the way of holes in the run game. Newman was OK on the right side. Hanson looked overmatched at times.

The run game was not good. There wasn't much commitment to try. 25 pass attempts in the first half? That said, Goodson had some good juice in his legs, and I hope he can learn to block...a PS guy. Baylor showed up, too. Hopefully next week, they commit to running the ball a little more and giving the OL a chance to grind on a front.

Doubs looked as advertised. He was clearly the focal point of the passing game and showed he will compete for the ball. That said, he left a couple catches on the field...hopefully it's just first-game jitters and it clears up. Encouraged by him...he'll be in the WR rotation when the season opens.

Danny Davis looked good. A couple nice catches, including the adjustment to come back for the catch on the TD at the end of the first half. Maybe he lands on the PS.

Not much to say about the defense. SJC was credible, which helps because he'll play this season. Agree that there was some flash from Heflin. All told, minus two bad coverage breakdowns, the defense wasn't awful...which says something about a unit where none of the top players were on the field. Leavitt was a train wreck (and then got hurt), but maybe that helps to indicate that the S position isn't easy to pick up in Barrry's system. They need help at S. I'll give a shoutout to Kobe Jones who seemed to be generating pressure.

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 13, 2022 at 10:58 am

Davis was the main cause of the 1st Int but Love did telegraph it. Watch the 2nd part of the 1st clip, you can see him turn his body towards Davis and then hesitate before throwing it.

https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2022/08/13/jordan-love-three-intercep...

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Coldworld's picture

August 14, 2022 at 09:21 am

Football is a game where such things happen. I think we can all recall Rodgers doing that at times. Look, you’ve raised some points about Love, but in descending into scrabbling to find every straw possible to use to indicate that he was the horrible, terrible, awful pick you have always espoused you are to the point of both undermining them and your usual standard of insight.

When I see you ridiculing a poster with a contrary view because he or she was triggered by your old friend Payne, then I know things are off the right tracks.

Love did some good things, some bad things and the jury is still out but please, take a deep breath on this one.

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PatrickGB's picture

August 13, 2022 at 08:18 am

I found the game entertaining. But there is a lot to work on from the scrubs. I was pleasantly surprised with the designed QB runs from the backups. However, I have been spoiled by Aaron’s accuracy and shut down cornerback play from the starters.

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SensualInfluence's picture

August 13, 2022 at 08:21 am

Jordan Love has yet to make a single WOW play in two years and change. There is absolutely nothing special about his game. That’s why do not see any love for Love. He’s JAG

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Packman60's picture

August 13, 2022 at 10:04 am

Did you even watch the game or are you just making those comments based upon the box score and some preconceived notion you developed when they traded up for Love 3 years ago?

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SensualInfluence's picture

August 13, 2022 at 02:30 pm

I watch. And what I see is a player that any team could land after the fourth round every year. There is nothing about Love’s game that is good, much less exceptional. He’s JAG

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ImaPayne's picture

August 13, 2022 at 11:19 am

I was thinking, if he tosses two or three picks next game, any trade value the Pack thought they might have is out the window. At that point you let him back up this contract year and then say adios sucker, we made a mistake. Something they hate to do because it reflects on Gutt and it should, he also sucks.

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SensualInfluence's picture

August 13, 2022 at 02:31 pm

This could be his last year in the league

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Oppy's picture

August 13, 2022 at 03:04 pm

Yeah.. no.

Love will be in the league for at least another 3-5 years regardless if the Packers resign him after 2022. He has far too much arm talent to think otherwise.

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dobber's picture

August 13, 2022 at 04:01 pm

Hell, even Brett Hundley is still in an NFL camp. Kizer was through the end of last season.

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Oppy's picture

August 13, 2022 at 04:48 pm

...and most of it has been on active 53 man rosters as a true #2 QB (Hundley).
Kizer was legitimately a dumpster fire, however.

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ImaPayne's picture

August 13, 2022 at 08:52 am

1. Back up defensvie backs should be playing div iii ball. they let guys run right by and couldnt cover a car with a tarp sitting in their garage.
2. Love telegraphs his throws. D backs know that and watch his eyes. whenever he senses pressure he makes the throw while in the huddle and doesnt read the d. 50 passer rating 3 interceptions against the second string.
3. Tackling was so so. Real lack of speed on defense and niners backs got 5 yards before being touched.
4. Dobs needs to get his mind in the game. He has hands problems and will not be Rodgers friend down the road. Too many dropsies
5. Goodson is a number 5 back.
6. Amari may make the team. I still think he isnt very bright.
Hopefully the coaches werent happy with what they saw.

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Packers0808's picture

August 13, 2022 at 09:10 am

Talking about being bright.....................................

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HawkPacker's picture

August 13, 2022 at 11:35 am

Well, I do agree on one thing about your post and that is your name. Why so negative?

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mbpacker's picture

August 13, 2022 at 09:12 am

No doub about it, the season has begun! GPG!

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Festvangelist's picture

August 13, 2022 at 09:49 am

I thought Doubs shows upside potential but he has a long way to go. I remember early in Davonte’s career he dropped passes too. But. Davonte worked and worked on his skills and became what h3 is today, amazing. Whether Doubs has the skills to develop into a true #1 receiver we will see. In the meantime we will have to hope he can become a solid contributor come regular season with steady improvement. Aaron Rodgers will let us know soon enough.

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GregC's picture

August 13, 2022 at 10:30 am

I'm not sure he has a long ways to go. He dropped a couple passes--pretty common for a rookie receiver in his first preseason game. I know he's had some drops in practice too, but it doesn't seem to be a huge issue, and he's bound to clean that up. The guy knows how to get open.

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HawkPacker's picture

August 13, 2022 at 11:37 am

He was a 4th round pick so I don't believe any of us thinks he should develop into a #1 receiver but looking at his play and the way he handles himself along the sidelines, I think the sky is the limit for him. I noticed him on the sidelines with some players and could tell his head is really in the game.

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THESZOTMAN1's picture

August 13, 2022 at 10:12 am

OK, Nags, I'll try not to overreact.
But when you start out with holding on the kickoff return, then go 3 and out, then give up a long-ish drive and 3 points, my night didn't start out too well.
So, I watched a replay this morning and have to say I felt a LITTLE better. Here are a few grades from an old teacher:
On offense, Jordan Love was....... well....... Jordan Love. 13 of 24 for 176 w/ 2 TDs is about average for him. So a C. Of the 3 ints, only 1 was really his fault. The designed runs worked well. Make it C plus.
After all the worries about WRs all year, Doubs and Baylor made plays. I think we'll be all right. A for those guys.
The OL was not bad, but I thought they'd be a little better. So I give them C minus. Pass pro was OK, but we have to be able to top Goodson's 36 yds on 12 carries.
I gotta keep remembering, what's important here is what goes on tape. This will be crucial in coaching guys up and (unfortunately) in cutting to 80 and then to 53.
So, bring on NOLA and ...
GPG
The Szotman

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PackyCheese500's picture

August 13, 2022 at 01:07 pm

Myers, Runyon, and Nijman were good. The Pack may want to consider signing a Dennis Kelly/Rick Wagner-esque veteran OT before week 1 like Eric Fisher or Daryl Williams.

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PackyCheese500's picture

August 13, 2022 at 01:07 pm

Myers, Runyon, and Nijman were good. The Pack may want to consider signing a Dennis Kelly/Rick Wagner-esque veteran OT before week 1 like Eric Fisher or Daryl Williams.

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PackyCheese500's picture

August 13, 2022 at 10:19 am

In my opinion, here are the main takeaways from the game:
-Love was inconsistent, but showed flashes of potential. 2 of his INTs weren’t his fault. He had some questionable decision making.
-Myers and Runyon looked great in both pass and run blocking and ready for week 1.
-The WRs looked good too. Doubs, Davis, Toure and Rodgers all played well, and the drops should be fixed with time.
-The battle for the 4th RB spot has not come close to being decided. In my opinion, Goodson played the best tonight.
-the DL, especially Chris Slayton and Jack Heflin, looked good (until the niners final drive)
-Backup OLBs flashed and showed potential, but more depth is needed, I think the Packers should sign Jason Pierre Paul or trade for Chase Winovich to provide good depth at olb.
-Secondary was inconsistent
-Rodgers looks MUCH better as a returner and player overall. STs are definitely better than they were a year ago.

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Coldworld's picture

August 13, 2022 at 11:32 am

Thumbs up for everything but the trade. It’s too early in my view. It may come to that but I think we need to see more.

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PackfanNY's picture

August 13, 2022 at 10:38 am

I loved having a game to watch last night. Sure some guys who actually played looked to have some “potential”. Of course, it is virtually impossible to evaluate guys when your team is “sitting” 33 players. The others who suited up saw limited action. The 49ers did the same. I am NOT criticizing the Packers or LaFleur as this is very smart to protect against injury. The “real” Green Bay Packers team was standing around on the sideline. So good or bad I’ll leave the evaluations up to the coaches and GM.

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ImaPayne's picture

August 13, 2022 at 11:24 am

When I hear the Love showed flashes, please people. This is freekin year 3. If he doesnt have confidence now and come and taking charge then he was way over rated which I've always felt.
The one pass deflection was a bad throw. That interception is on him.
The other was a terrible non read where he threw into deep coverage and got burned. I hear on this blog he's been doing that all camp.
The good news is that all we need him to do is back up. The pack can easlily draft a QB, use some picks and move up and let him go next year if they want so all isnt lost. He is not your future.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 13, 2022 at 11:26 am

I root for the laundry, and it was fun to see guys in Packer uniforms even if they won’t be Packers in a few weeks.

I saw holes for the RBs and protection for the QB, so the line got something done. I saw the defense give up a couple of bad plays but also make quite a few solid ones. I’m pretty happy with the first showing of the team.

Focus on the team, not the trees or branches.

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Ferrari-Driver's picture

August 13, 2022 at 11:59 am

Aaron, enjoyed the comments on the game. I thought you may have added one on the special teams teams play. I did pay special attention to the snaps on the field goal and extra points along with the punts and Coco and O'Donnell did a good job on the snaps and placements for kicks. I like what O'Donnell did with his punts; he seemed to get them off quickly enough and hit both of them decently. The coverage on kickoff and punts seemed decent, so all things considered, I thought the special teams looked good and certainly not like a unit that should cost us a game. Of course, we do need need our kicker back on the field during the regular season or before.

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Rick1's picture

August 13, 2022 at 12:55 pm

The rookies and other young guys played ok for the first time out. San Francisco is a physical team and should give the coaches a great starting point in who can contribute on Sundays.
I think love is going to be average at best his accuracy is concerning and has not made the strides to be great. Sometimes you are what you are and that is average.
The offense is going to be better than a lot of people think. They have balance and LaFluer is a great play designer.
This week’s practice is going to give the most honest take on the team.

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Nate-1980's picture

August 13, 2022 at 01:41 pm

I don’t always watch hof qbs, but when I do their stat line is 13-of-24, 176 yards, two TDs, three INTs, 66.0 passer rating..:)

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Oppy's picture

August 13, 2022 at 03:12 pm

how about 15-of-28, 133 yards, 0 TDs, two INTs, and a 36.8 passer rating?

That was Aaron Rodgers on September 12, 2021 in the season opener vs. the Saints..:)

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NitschkeFromTheGrave's picture

August 14, 2022 at 11:16 am

I, like many of you am on the Romeo train, Good (if not great) pick.

Love continues to be in the " meh " category IMO. He had an "OK" game, it wasn't anything game changing for his brand though, C or C+ and that is being generous with his game's passer rating at 66 (you got to love that number, on a jersey rather than a QB Rating.). What does a C or C+ get any QB in the NFL though? The best you can say is he didn't tarnish himself or lose any ground but he really did nothing to increase his worth either. We also need to remind ourselves many he played against will be cut and will not even make the league. If I were in the front office I'd be saying, "Just keep that incoming phone line open."

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splitpea1's picture

August 13, 2022 at 02:09 pm

Although Love did some good things in the air and on the ground, you'd like to see more consistency. He missed a couple of easy throws to Taylor, and threw a poor INT over the middle. But similar to the regular season finale vs. Detroit, his receivers cost him a couple of turnovers....getting a little worried about Tyler Davis' hands.

Game ball to Amari! He's still not a bolt of lightning, but did look a little bit faster. I think everyone wants to see him succeed in his second season.

Having a little trouble offensively on third-and-short on the ground; preseason is the time to get this ironed out. On defense, same with the reserve DBs.

What was up with those broadcasters? They kept calling penalties on the wrong players!

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GatorJason's picture

August 14, 2022 at 08:36 pm

A Drunken GM Assessment of Packers
QB: Put Rodgers in magic mushroom wrap now!
- Etling less talented than Love but plays better.
RB: 1 & 2 done. Put 3-6 in a hat & pick.
OL: Get on knees and pray for 69 & 74's return.
- Add the tall fat UDFA to 53. He is 4th best OT.
- Fatten up Tom’s skinny butt so he can anchor.
- Put S. Rhyan on IR for any reason and redshirt.
WR: Trade AR 8 now to get any trade value.
- Gary’s layout of 8 after return was reality check.
- Put Cobb on IR. He is in last year on his last leg.
- Put productive scrubs Toure and Davis in slot.
TE: T. Davis played his way off 53 in one game.
- Not much use for a TE who can’t block or catch.
- Instead use long hair 80 until long hair 85 returns
DL: Dilemma. 8 legit keepers for 5 spots. Hmm.
ILB: 1&2 locks + Barnes and McDuffie + a ST body.
OLB: 1&2 locks + Garvin and Hamilton + Enagbare.
CB: 1, 2 and 3 locks. Nixon is trustworthy then SJC.
S: Amos is SMASH #1 dog + Savage + V. Scott +
S. Davis in ANY order though I’m liking Scott’s play.
P: OD, old reliable & Bear’s best performer in 2021.
PK: Crosby even if his leg is broken in three places.
LS: Coco puff or player to be named later.

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Minniman's picture

August 13, 2022 at 05:54 pm

Lots of players on both sides of the ball will be unemployed, buried in depth charts or on Practice Squads in 3 weeks time - so it's difficult to evaluate any one players dominance in the game.

It was good to see Amari Rodgers and Romeo Dobbs make some good plays. I think that I'll be more looking forward to seeing how the receivers fare in the coming weeks.

Love got let down a bit by his protection and receivers, but at game-speed and on first watch, Lance looked like the better QB on the day. I'm interested to see the All-22 in a few days to see more of the details.

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dobber's picture

August 13, 2022 at 06:22 pm

A busted coverage and bad safety angle took Lance from 3-4 for 16 yards, to 4-5 for 92 and a TD. The play got made, don't get me wrong, but outside that play he wasn't dazzling.

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TommyG's picture

August 14, 2022 at 10:18 am

Dang it's fun to be watching football again. I missed you all.

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