I know we all overreact and (mostly) tongue-in-cheek call for Capers, Slocum, etc. to be fired, here and on the live blog. But our special teams have not only given us nothing, but have been a negative most of the past few years. I know Slocum and McCarthy are close but I sure hope Shawn "leaves to pursue other career opportunities" after this season. Imagine this team if special teams was even half as good as the 1996 team.

Defense had a good game, they only allowed 12 points, some of which came on very short fields after turnovers. Offense and special teams fell apart today. People have bad days, teams have bad days- it happens. I don't expect the offense to look anywhere close to that bad again the rest of the season.

Sigh special teams =10 points

This loss is squarely on the shoulders of AR and the Wide outs. Just an all around terrible performance; the likes of which I can't remember out of this team.

The running game looked pretty good. i would've liked to see more, but like MM I just knew our offense would get rolling eventually. Right?

The defense actually looked pretty good... going against a QB who missed many big plays. On that vital third down play we had an ILB on the outside WR. The WR went inside and was wide effing open. Orton didn't even see him.

If this is how we look against good defenses than our playoff seeding means nothing... less than nothing even.

On to Tampa, another place we play like crap, against an opponent with nothing to lose, and whom runs a two high safety defense.

good news - If we keep playing like this the last game against detroit will be meaningless.

Mack is pissed, but he needs to point the finger at himself. Why he gave up on running the ball is a question only he has the answer to. Too bad the Packers beat writers are to chicken shit to make him answer a question.

I am not calling for Slocum's firing because that is never going to happen, but serious question, what would it possibly take for the guy to get fired?

6 kick blocks, kick returns barely get to 20 (if we are lucky), other teams returning punts and KOs for TDs.

Remember, there have been very few injuries this season, what is the excuse for the terrible STs play?

Slocum should walk into MM office tomorrow and resign. The Packers could do no worse with just Zook coaching them. ST have been a issue for a while now. But 6 blocks? Common man!!!

Ugh. Really have to hand it to the O-line today that last play notwithstanding. I don't think the Bills had one sack all game. Hate to say it, but fault lies with AR and receivers. Just kept waiting for them to get in sync. Never did. Wouldn't doubt it if this cost Rodgers his MVP. Don't see us losing in TB or finale vs Detroit. Pick up the pieces and move on.

Well Vikings look tough

-The "spot of the fumble" wasn't in the end zone. if the ball rolled 20 yards forward, would we get it there? No.

-Schwartz always has his guys ready to come out and kick us in the shins and take shots. We should be ready for that.

-This was textbook Mike McCarthy, not having his team ready. Dude is an X's and O's genius, but doesn't know how to have his team mentally prepared to play football, ever.

-I don't mind losing games. I just can't stand doing so this way. We are clearly the better team, but we go out there and do not play to our potential.

-Wtf was Aaron's problem today?

-Still no accountability for Slocum. How many consecutive games are we going to have blocked kicks? Defense held this team to 12 points. ST cost us 10.

-Davante is a rookie. He doesn't have that "back shoulder" thing down. It's gonna take him a year to become a pro. I think they're forcing him in there before he's ready. Richard Rodgers too. Takes a year for a TE. Remember what Finley did as a rookie? Run his mouth and drop two deep passes.

-D was the strongest phase of our team today by far. But wow, those missed tackles were UNREAL.

I'm not even that pissed. If you play like that against a sound team, you will lose.

When Jordy drops a 94 yd walk-in, that couldn't have been handed to him any better, you know its not your day.

Tackling sucked. So many times we should've had stops in the backfield, guys just refuse to wrap up, just throw shoulders. Mike Daniels comes to mind.

Actually, if the Seahawks and Lions win today, then the Packers will be just 6th in the playoff standings. It's not over yet with a spot in the playoffs. 10-6 is not going to cut it. Hope they can get it together against Tampa. Today was a disgrace, as far as any WR not named Cobb is concerned. When the running game was humming, McC resorted to throwing the ball. Brutal.
If anybody would've told me that the D would only give up 12 points today and the Packers lost then I'd have thought that person needs to have the head examined. But overall an off-day of the QB and the perimeter players. OL and RBs played very well for the most part. Adams has hit the rookie wall, and Boykin is not an NFL WR.

- This game looked just like that lions game did.
- Defense gave up only 12.
- Offense was straight up awful.
- Right tackle replacement made crucial mistake at the worst possible moment.
- Other notes:
- Curse of the Neard?
- KEEP RUNNING!!!!!!
- Starks had a good game minus a crucial drop. Good homecoming if they would have fed him the rock a little more.
- Good job Tramon. Keep the naysayers at bay.
- Peppers......we need you for playoffs Dawg
- Clay...... Outside of that replay of him getting creamed....he looked awesome.
- I think our special team woes on block are because Sutton and lang aren't in there for kicks anymore with their injuries.
- Let's get all three phases working again.
- Home field that everyone was hoping for......yeah...that hurt. But let's just get on a roll heading into the tourney.....and play anyone anywhere to win this thing to make it maybe even more gratifying? Yeah....let's do that!!!!!
- As Aaron said: way rather have a loss now

Vikes 7-0

I always felt that it took good coverage AND a strong pass rush to beat us. Turns out our offense is neutered by good coverage only since the WRs lose their minds and AR forgets where he is.

Damn, I'm bitter right now.

Pass the eggnog. Despite this loss, returning to my regularly-scheduled holiday cheer.

all I can say is the Packers go on another 5 game winning streak next week.

"We weren't sharp." -Mike McCarthy

Well my friend, mild cheddar ain't gonna cut the cheese from here on out, fer cripes sake! Gotta be extra sharp Kaukauna and I ain't talkin' Mauna Loa Mikey.

Can someone please clarify something for me: I thought that if players on IR then they cannot be on sidelines or even be around the team. But I've seen BJ Raji now several times during the last weeks around McC on the sidelines. Or did I get that wrong and the rule is only if they are suspended, or if they were on short term IR then they can practice after 8 games, but if they are on long-term IR it doesn't matter since they won't be able to play in any way?

Special teams awful today, embarrassing. The drops killed us, as did poor tackling. ARod better stay away from Olivia every other day as well after that game.

A good, physical defense will always trump a good, high-powered offense. Every. Time.

This Reffing crew should be fired tomorrow.

Vikes 14-0

Vikes 14-0

I like to bet against road teams on a short week. This is why. Having said that, a really good team can overcome that handicap.

Good: running game
Bad: #12, receivers, special teams, Slocum. MM
Ugly: my daughter's ballet teacher who failed to schedule the recital from one to four-thirty.

The Bills totally out executed us. I can't even begin to understand what happened with AR and the receiving crew- no communication whatsoever. Sitton's phantom holding call didn't help either. We're lucky the Bills dropped so many ITs or it would've been a blow out by them!

Should've had 42 rushes instead of 42 pass attempts. Everyone who rushed the ball got 5 yards a carry today. Time to regroup for Tampa

I also put the responsibility of the fumble on AR. How do you not pay attention to a first round defensive draft pick being defended by a player who hasn't hardly played all season i.e. Williams vs. Tretter and why didn't Tretter get any help?

I cannot decide who I dislike more - Carroll or Jim Harbaugh. Those 2, the hoddie hoodlum, and Jim Schwartz have to be the 4 most miserable human beings among NFL coaches.

Ugly in so many ways, yet I feel strangely encouraged by the fact that our Oline seriously handled probably the best front 7 in the league in both run blocking and pass protection. Rodgers won't be off like that often; the receivers won't suck like that often; Jordy drops that pass one time out of 100; STs, though they aren't good, won't give up that TD often. It sucks to lose the inside track to the #1 seed, but I'm not that concerned about the team.

Let's hope it's not super windy in the playoffs though.

I agree. Surprisingly encouraged that we could handle SEA and DET front 4 in the playoffs based on today's performance. Like NE game in red zone, if offense precision is up to its normal standards then we win this game and blow out the Pats.

Do we blame Rodgers or the WRs???

Even though Boykin was interfered with on Rodgers' last INT - I think he's pretty much done. It's always something with him. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a just a taaaaaaad bit of Janis these last two games.

We need Mike Daniels to slap the sh*t out of Peppers and get his head right and then we need someone to slap the sh*t out of Mike Daniels. Just watch the game over and watch how little effort Peppers give. He was even pancaked by the Bills' WR Woods. WTF!? Peppers BETTER be holding back for HELLUVA playoff push! I seen a handful of run plays where Daniels could have made a diving tackle but he just kept on running trying to catch the RB. SMH. He even tried to shoulder tackle the RB when Micah Hyde had him wrapped up by an ankle -- that led to a whiffed tackle and a first down I believe.

So,the refs missed 2 OBVIOUS DPI's which should have led to first downs -- which could have led to and easy 3 or 7.

Special Teams...Special Teams...What's special about ours!? Our last score before the KO I said to myself,"watch Mason kick the ball out of bounds or make it a certain touchback!" and that's exactly what he did. WHYYYYYYY do we wait 'til crunch time to feel like our ST Unit can't get sh*t done and play it safe!? Quit giving teams these extra few yards because we're damn sure not getting any.

What other eff'ery went on today during the game?

This might not be so bad, but I think MM got a bit desperate and showed a bit too much of the Cobra formation. I don't think that was part of the gameplan until we something (anything) to spark the offense.

What about that Sam Barrington flag!?

What about that cheap shot on Bulaga!?

Oh yea! Umm,I'm going to need Dom to stop blitzing both MLBs AND the slot corner when teams have more than 3 WRs (plus a TE) on the field. I forgot the name of that Bills' TE but that clutch 3rd down conversion was an easy pitch and catch.

That Sam Shields right corner blitz against a 5-Wide formation was also ill advised. That led to a 40+ yard play I believe.

Wow Charles Johnson looks damn good for Vikes

Fucking Walsh to missed FGs

Its' the NFL. Upsets happen, especially on the road.

Especially considering it was the first time I have ever seen a Packers game live, that will be a tough one to swallow. Still, as Nagler said if they had to lose a game this was the one to do it.

The Bills are no joke, but it would be nice to see the Packers win on the road against a good defense. Just cements the fact that this team needs home field come January.

For all you anti-troll, bleeding-heart optimists:

This was good for the team - a real wake up call. So just R-E-L-A-X and the Packers will sneak into the playoffs and sneak away with another Lombardi trophy.

MVP seasonn resumes next week in Tampa - make book on it. Just an insignificant blip this week. It's a long season. Every team has an occasional let down. All their goals are still right in front of them.

Today the Packers scared the heck out of the competition (Detroit). They know that the Packers are setting a trap for them.

Defense was pretty good today. Would have been even better if Peppers wasn't out of gas, Hawk wasn't getting pushed around and Bills offense was even worse than terrible.

Hey Aaron - just tell the truth. There's nothing worse than trying to put a positive spin on horse shit.
Quarterback - terrible
Receivers - terrible
Special teams - horrendous
Defense - ok except tackling and playing against a poor offense
Peppers - out of gas
Hawk - targeted and pushed around
Coaching - see special teams, lets get away from the run

Looked like Pack was moving in the right direction - wrong!

Well, missed the game, glad I did. From what I've read they played like shit.

I'm as big a Packer fan as anyone, but we've got to be realistic. Our defense played well yesterday but hardly against a top offense. Also our offense has struggled badly against top defenses in three of the losses (SEA, DET, BUF). We needed that win yesterday in hopes of home field throughout. Going to be extremely tough if we have to go to SEA.

OK, I'll say it. The refs sucked. Our guys were getting mugged and the refs decided that this was the game that they were going to "Lett'em play." If they called this game like they called the pre-season it's VERY different.

I hate to be the fan that hates the zebras, but in this case I DO.

The reason we lost this game is because of dropped passes, very poor special teams, off game by Rodgers, and poor tacking , not the fault of the refs. BUF deserved to win, in fact they should have had another INT or two which would have increased their lead.

2 serious questions:

1 - Has Dajuan returned one past the 30 this year? If he has, I can't recall.

2 - Can we let DannyDS go back to calling himself Stroh? It's so obvious.

"I did like how McCarthy went to the Cobb-in-the-backfield package later in the game. Buffalo had no real answer for it."

I liked it, too. So MM ran it for 3 plays in one series and one play the next series, and then never ran it again IIRC.