Green Bay Packers v. Cardinals: Behind the Numbers

Here is a look at the key stats and figures from the Green Bay Packers win out west over the Arizona Cardinals. 

Wow, what a win. For the most part, the Green Bay Packers controlled this game from start to finish but nearly came away with what would have been a devastating loss. However, a last-second Rasul Douglas interception secured the win. 
 
Now on this Victory Friday, let's go Behind the Numbers and take a look at the stats and figures that helped define this performance.

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The Green Bay Packers' path to victory over Arizona was always going to be on the backs -- or legs -- of Aaron Jones and AJ Dillon. As well as this Cardinals defense has performed this season, they've shown that they can be susceptible against the run. 
 
The Packer offense ran 72 total plays, and 34 of them ended as rushing attempts. For those without a calculator, that's a run/pass split of 47/53--about as close to 50/50 in this offense as you will see. Jones finished with 59 yards, and Dillon had 78.

37:55

Prior to the game, I discussed how Green Bay needed to control the clock and turn this into a low-scoring affair--a shootout was not going to be a recipe for success. Doing so would keep Kyler Murray and this explosive Arizona offense on the sidelines and limit their scoring opportunities, which is what exactly happened.
 
Green Bay held the ball for 37:35 while Arizona's offense was on the field for only 22:25--over 10 minutes less than their season average. The Cardinals also ran just 55 plays compared to the usual 66 that they have run this season.

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On the road and with a number of key players missing, winning the turnover battle is a necessity, and the Green Bay Packers dominated that category. Two interceptions and a fumble recovery would give the Packers two more possessions than what Arizona had, and these turnovers resulted in 10 additional points plus the game-winning play.

Veteran Additions

I'm breaking a rule here because this is not a number, but we have to appreciate a few of the veteran additions that Brian Gutekunst -- and Aaron Rodgers -- have made this year. Each of these four players made impact plays and were integral parts of Green Bay's success on Thursday. 
 
De'Vondre Campbell finished with seven tackles, a sack, and two tackles for loss while making plays in coverage. Rasul Douglas has provided stability at cornerback and came away with the game-clinching interception. Corey Bojorquez continues to flip the field, while Randall Cobb had two touchdown receptions. 

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This was especially true without Davante Adams and Allen Lazard, but even if those two had been available, moving the ball through the air against this defense wasn't going to be easy.
 
So instead of the long-developing plays or relying on the pass-catchers to win one-on-one matchups, Green Bay relied heavily on the quick passing game to generate easy completions by getting the ball out of Aaron Rodgers' hands, as well as yards after the catch, and on-time passes. 
 
Green Bay found some success -- especially on their final drive -- but Rodgers would throw for only 184 yards and average just 4.8 yards per pass attempt.

3/5 and 3/4

Let's talk about the red zone since it's been an issue on both sides of the ball this season. 
 
The offense finished 3/5, failing to find the end zone on two occasions when they were inside the Arizona five-yard line. In both instances, we saw Green Bay get pass-heavy and try to spread things out -- basically the opposite of what had been working -- and afterward, LaFleur mentioned that was because Arizona loaded up the box and line of scrimmage, daring Green Bay to pass the ball. 
 
On the defensive side of the ball, Arizona was 3/3 until that final drive that resulted in a Rasul Douglas interception. Prior to that, however, the Cardinals ran all over Green Bay inside the 20. Why the Packers were playing with such lightboxes in those situations, I do not know. 

Too Many

Too many injuries. At various points this season, the Green Bay Packers have been without David Bakhtiari, Elgton Jenkins, Josh Myers, Josiah Deguara, Za'Darius Smith, Preston Smith, Jaire Alexander, Krys Barnes, and Kevin King. Not to mention that Davante Adams, Allen Lazard, and Malik Taylor have all been on the reserve/COVID list as well. 
 
Well, the Packers sustained two more injuries on Thursday as both Kylin Hill and Robert Tonyan left with knee injuries. When asked about Tonyan, LaFleur said, "I'm sick for Bobby." That certainly doesn't sound good.

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This Packers defensive front did a terrific job of generating pressure as well as keeping Murray in the pocket. And oftentimes, they were able to get home with only four pass-rushers, which allowed them to have seven back in coverage against a talented group of Cardinal pass-catchers. 

4.4

As I wrote above, we all knew that Green Bay's path to victory was leaning on the run game, and the Arizona Cardinals certainly knew this as well. However, they still struggled to stop this Packer rushing attack behind an offensive line unit that controlled the trenches. 
 
Green Bay continually ran the ball up the middle, bullying their way to 4.4 yards per rush--which is above their season average. This was also a Cardinals team that entered the contest eighth in pressure rate, but they were only able to pressure Rodgers 10 times--although, in part, that can be attributed to the quick passing game.
 
But nonetheless, this was a very good performance from the Green Bay offensive line. 

33-7

Matt LaFleur is now 33-7 during the regular season as the Green Bay Packers head coach. This is the best coaching record through 40 games during the Super Bowl era. 

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Born and raised in Green Bay, WI and I still call it home. After my family, watching the Packers, sharing my opinions on the team through my writing and interacting with other fans is my greatest passion. You can find me on Twitter at @Paul_Bretl. 
 

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Leatherhead's picture

October 29, 2021 at 11:25 am

We throw for 184 yards, on the road, without our top 3 WRs, against a 7-0 team and win. Earlier this season, we completed 17 passes and won.

Question: Why do we need to spend premium resources on superduper WRs? Seriously. It seems to me that there are other ways to win football games, and other positions where we could use those resources.

Amari Rodgers retuned a punt and we took a penalty that backed us up. Then, he got injured returning a kick he didn’t have to.

Question: Why? How many long returns do we need to balance that out?
One More Time: Don’t return punts, or kicks you don’t have to. It hurts you more than the occasional return helps.

Here’s some more numbers, Ken.

24: When we score at least 24 points, we’re just about unbeatable. I think we’re something like 30-3. And when we hold our opponents under 24, we’re undefeated in 2 1/2 seasons. So that’s really our number.

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murf7777's picture

October 29, 2021 at 11:50 am

I agree LH. With a great QB, WR's are a dime a dozen, or should I say a luxury. SC Monies are best spent elsewhere. Tom Brady proved that with his titles, only one coming with a HOF type of a WR. They won with great D's and quick timing throws.

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JohnnyLogan's picture

October 29, 2021 at 12:06 pm

Tom Brady won last year with Evans, Godwin, Antonio Brown, and Gronk. And still has them. We had only Adams and Rodgers tried desperately at the end of the game last year to find him because no one else could get open.

We get too excited about regular season games. When the playoffs come against top defenses we'll need a #2 receiver. We don't have one at the moment.

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Packers1985's picture

October 29, 2021 at 02:00 pm

Exactly, The real game starts in the playoffs where you would definitely need a no.2 against the top defenses.

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croatpackfan's picture

October 30, 2021 at 03:22 am

Go, watch again last Packers series in NFCCG last year. If I remember correctly, on 2nd & goal there were Lazard and Tonyan deep in the end zone alone like ghosts. The nearest defenders were around goal line, 4 yards away from them.

So, do not lie and do not try to find excuse for Aaron Rodgers who was only looking to Davante and force the ball to him.

Aaron Rodgers is responsible for those 3 plays w/o results. Davante was covered with 3 defenders. So, there was 3 defenders to cover 5 other Packers.

Your try is pathetic.

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JohnnyLogan's picture

October 30, 2021 at 08:25 am

"So, do not lie and do not try to find excuse for Aaron Rodgers"... Opinions are not lies, Croat. Neither are they "pathetic."

MVS and Lazard are not #2 receivers in this league. If you think they are or you think we don't need a #2 receiver, you're not lying, it's your opinion. Using one sequence of downs in last year's game to make your argument doesn't convince me we don't need a legit #2 receiver. That's my opinion. I'd be lying if I said it wasn't.

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croatpackfan's picture

October 30, 2021 at 03:13 pm

Well, it is not opinion, when you can go and establish the facts purely by watching the reply. I'm taking your statement that neither Lazard nor MVS are #2 receivers. Some might not agree with you and, for example, I have different opinion. Last season, for example, Packers were scoring almost by will (except in several games), and Davante Adams got for himself amazing stats as WR. This season it is not that easy, when you are missing MVS. DA is just doubled or tripled. If MVS is so bad, why he has that influence on the scoring possibilities for Packers? Also, what many fans here calls MVS drops were at least at 30% throws which were overthrown or underthrown by Aaron Rodgers (I say even more). But that is my opinion, not stated as fact.

I gave the fact and someone who is trying to be objective can easily confirm me wrong or right. I will compare statement from former US president that if you drink disinfectant you can cure yourself from Corona. He said that as fact, not as opinion. When you are giving opinions you very often says: I think .... (something). When you gives a statements than you say this is like that.

To confirm what I wrote here I'm copying one of your sentence: "If you THINK they are or you THINK we don't need a #2 receiver, you're not lying, it's your opinion."

Contrary to that you wrote: "We had only Adams and Rodgers tried desperately at the end of the game last year to find him because no one else could get open." what is FALSE STATEMENT, therefore lie.

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CoachDino's picture

October 31, 2021 at 02:00 am

i complety agree with tb having plenty of weapons in most years....gronk could be a top 5 all time best, moss probably is, hernandez, walker. also agree playoffs is when you most need a wr2, that said mvs was like awr1 against tb. so that wasnt the issue, question was that a fluke? im more concerned about ar getting back to form.

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ApplesAndTons's picture

October 31, 2021 at 07:38 pm

just imagine if aaron had TBs roster. at that point, even my grandmother, or you, could come out of retirement and coach them

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ApplesAndTons's picture

October 31, 2021 at 07:36 pm

WRs are a dime a dozen but only for the elite. Look at Allen Robinson, OBJ, Devonta Smith....

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 29, 2021 at 12:21 pm

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LOL. No downvote from me. It is a legitimate issue and GB is 7-0 without Adams. Of course, GB scored 10 points off great field position and 14 on their own drives. I seem to remember in a previous game GB getting the ball back with 37 seconds and no timeouts, so the great superduper players, AR to Davante, gained the necessary yardage in two passes and just got the FG off. Had that been the case in this game, we'd play for the tie.

It is fortunate that AZ is known for having a poor run defense. It is fair to note that losing the team's top three WRs unexpectedly won't happen often. Nothing wrong with having this debate.

In a capped league, there is always the concern about putting too much money in one or a few players, if only due to injury concerns. The thing is that mediocre QBs still cost a lot, and even just starting quality WRs still cost $16M AAV.

As far as I can see, the secret is to get great play from guys playing for little money. This year, that's Campbell, Douglas, plus Gary and to a lesser extent Stokes, Savage and Sullivan (rookie deals). That's the old moneyball concept, I suppose.

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Coldworld's picture

October 29, 2021 at 01:04 pm

It’s not just being without the top 3 receivers, it’s the near total lack of experience, snaps with Rodgers and practice time those incoming had prior to last night. Each has more of those after last night.

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PatrickGB's picture

October 29, 2021 at 02:32 pm

Very good point. And one could see that their inexperience showed.

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Caden819's picture

October 29, 2021 at 02:33 pm

Did you see the drops by Amari and Winfree last night? Would you seriously roll into the playoffs with the WRs we had last night? Why spend more resources on a Defense that has allowed 18.4 points per game since week 1 when that offense struggled to move the ball inside the red zone multiple times last night? If not for Aaron Jones we would've gotten blown out

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jannes bjornson's picture

October 29, 2021 at 04:38 pm

Need to hunt for a TE.

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dobber's picture

October 29, 2021 at 04:39 pm

Make sure you use large calibers...those beasts are a load to bring down.

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CoachDino's picture

October 31, 2021 at 02:07 am

agreed, get a good one with acouple years left on his contract. big bob will not be ready or imo the answer. could be a help to love

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Coldworld's picture

October 30, 2021 at 08:41 am

A lot of drops come from not being in the right position. Not anticipating the timing and the inability to just play instinctively. These guys are not necessarily leaden handed. You can’t separate the two as you are here.

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barutanseijin's picture

October 29, 2021 at 02:48 pm

Wasn’t that Hill who got hurt when he foolishly ran a kick out of the end zone & right at a Cardinal.

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Coldworld's picture

October 29, 2021 at 02:49 pm

Are you confusing Amari Rodgers and Kylin Hill?

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Leatherhead's picture

October 29, 2021 at 06:15 pm

Yeah. I meant Hill. Bourbon.

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

October 29, 2021 at 04:58 pm

Different defenses call for different attacks. You can't win on the ground against everybody. Case in point: last week's game against WFT was won through the air with a miserable ground game. But if you want to compete for a trophy, you need top level performers both in the ground and passing game. Good players get you good records. Great players show up in the playoffs against the top defenses.

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Stroh's picture

October 30, 2021 at 12:44 am

Teams with franchise QBs should never spend 1st rd picks on WR. The QB will make quality WR, great. See Jennings, Jones, Jordy, Cobb, Adams.

Only teams with average or worse QBs should use 1st rd picks on WR. They have to help elevate the QB play.

This has been the case in GB going on 30 yrs. Even if not stated publicly, it should be obvious the Packers have the formula intact!

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greengold's picture

October 29, 2021 at 11:35 am

Love it, Paul, and thank you for sharing all of this.

That TOP, to me, was humungous. Watching Kyler Murray sitting on the sidelines dying to get back in the game was exactly what I was hoping to see.

On the Red Zone, at some point Matt LaFleur & Aaron Rodgers have to have a come to Jesus moment and give the ball to AJ Dillon all 3 downs inside the 10. Why did Gutekunst draft such a powerful RB so high in the first place? USE HIM!!!

No matter the numbers, this was an EPIC win for the Green Bay Packers. WOW!

GPG

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Ya_tittle's picture

October 29, 2021 at 11:45 am

SO AGREE ON DILLON! I know he's had ball security issues, but CMON MAN!

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Leatherhead's picture

October 29, 2021 at 12:10 pm

It’s mid-season, as in “mid-season form”. And I think we’re going to have to improve in the red zone on both sides of the ball.

Conventional Wisdom is that you put the ball in the hands of you best players, and that would be Rodgers and Jones. Both of these guys have repeatedly shown that they can get it into the end zone, and Dillon hasn’t. Me, I’d line up Dillon in the I with some defensive tackle as a lead blocker, but that’s only because I’m not smart enough to be tricky.

This puts our defense in the top ten in most significant metrics, so I’d like to thank the people who don’t know what a decent defense looks like for shutting up.

I’d also like to take a moment to thank all the JAGs for continuing to play better than they are. ESB, Patrick, Lowry, Sullivan, etc. are all guys who’ve been identified by savvy armchair GMs as not being good enough, so I appreciate that they help us win anyway.🙄😏

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PatrickGB's picture

October 29, 2021 at 02:34 pm

I might have been one of them. So, Your welcome. :-)

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jannes bjornson's picture

October 29, 2021 at 04:42 pm

Why not aFullback in the lead draw? AZ has Simmons, Buddah Baker and company that crash hard to their gaps. I was hoping for some counter action.

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Leatherhead's picture

October 29, 2021 at 06:22 pm

Because I’m not smart enough to be tricky.

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Razer's picture

October 29, 2021 at 12:36 pm

...On the Red Zone, at some point Matt LaFleur & Aaron Rodgers have to have a come to Jesus moment and give the ball to AJ Dillon all 3 downs inside the 10...

Amen! The fact that 2 out of the 3 plays (for the 1st and goal from the 3 - post punt recovery) didn't have a RB in the backfield tells me that LaFleur maybe a bigger part of the problem. The Packers are not a pound it type of team. We don't value it enough to practice and play that way which is unfortunate when the real season and playoffs come around.

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Aplinal's picture

October 30, 2021 at 02:37 pm

As far as I know the game plan is drawn up by MLF, AR12, Nate and Luke. The Red Zone is more specifically over to AR12 and Nate. Sure Matt approves it all at the end, but I think we heard in the Presser that he wasn't happy with the plan in the RZ. I think we'll see some changes going forward.

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Caden819's picture

October 29, 2021 at 02:39 pm

I still cant wrap my head around the fact that we had the ball inside the 5 on atleast 8 downs and didn't give Dillon the ball a single time when the guy averaged 4.9 yards per carry

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greengold's picture

October 30, 2021 at 07:24 am

I agree, Caden. That’s just stupid football. I don’t give one fuck that AZ had 10 men in the box. AJ Dillon is special. Gotta pound that rock in there, and, he was making EVERY conversion we needed to that point when given the chance.

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CoachDino's picture

October 31, 2021 at 02:20 am

ar controls that situation. first in the game plane but most importantly in the huddle and presnap. he wants his stats. take away his 5 yd and under tds, completions and yds is he still even ranked 14? its all on him

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ApplesAndTons's picture

October 31, 2021 at 07:11 pm

i'm sure he'll be fine, coach lol

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Doug_In_Sandpoint's picture

October 29, 2021 at 11:47 am

402: the number of consecutive wins Bill Belichick would need to equal MLF’s win percentage.

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murf7777's picture

October 29, 2021 at 11:52 am

I was a fan of signing Cobb and still am. The importance of having a WR with a connection to a great QB cannot be overstated. Low SC $'s spent for the production.

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

October 29, 2021 at 05:00 pm

Yeah, not a ton of complaints right now about Rodgers playing "GM" in wanting Cobby back. He's starting to look really smart.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 29, 2021 at 11:57 am

AZ played 6.63 DL+LBs against GB. So they had a front 7. GB played 5.77 DL+LBs, so GB had a front 6. That includes just 1.89 true defensive linemen on the field per play.

And Why? Can you say DeAndre Hopkins, AJ Green, Christian Kirk, Rondale Moore and Zach Ertz?

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Leatherhead's picture

October 29, 2021 at 12:12 pm

That’s a lot of superduper WRs for 21 points…….🙄

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 29, 2021 at 12:52 pm

LOL. Touché 😁

Acquit me - I was in the watch party and demanded more runs by GB. Of course, with zip for WRs, I didn't see a lot of options. This armchair GM (not a pejorative term IMO) still thinks ESB is a nice 5th WR, and that we have a lot of 5th WR on the roster and PS. So Mr.-I-Don't-Play-STs finally played STs (4% and 13% STs in '18 and '20, out in 2019). He really doesn't sound like your kind of guy, nor mine. I always thought he had talent but didn't see evidence of him being a football player. Lowry isn't based on talent but on productivity and cap considerations. He is playing better - GMs miss and so do armchair GMs.

Loved it every time Kliff Kingsbury dialed up another pass for Kyler Murray despite his RBs gaining 25 yards on 4 carries. And then he called just 6 runs by non-QBs in the first half. I think Kingsbury might be a play-caller who can't help himself: he only wants to win one way. Me, if we can run it, that's good, too !

Always fun butting heads with you (couldn't find that emoji)!

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Leatherhead's picture

October 29, 2021 at 02:57 pm

Oh, I like to give you something to chew on every now and then…….

Ever since SF pounded us to death with 10 completions from Jimmy Garrapolo, I’ve been looking at offense differently. I think that some long held assumptions should be examined more closely.

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Coldworld's picture

October 29, 2021 at 01:07 pm

Hopkins is super. Ertz is not bad, Green is Green and the rest are just Ok. It’s not that special. Some of the light line may be due to losing Keke and wanting OLBs to contain as well as rush.

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greengold's picture

October 29, 2021 at 12:31 pm

Great stuff, TGR. It's a testament to the amount of pressure they were able to apply without a lot of blitzing, and they pretty much held in contain well. Also a testament to the young secondary we trotted out there.

Not mentioned much, but, Adrian Amos did a pretty nice job in run support, and De'Vondre Campbell was a beast again in the middle with 7 Tackles, 2 TFL and a sack... Barnes played fairly well. Lowry. Keke. Clark. Holding Edmunds & Conner to just 52 yds rushing for the game, and AZ for 74 yds total was huge!

SUUUUL & Stokes did a nice job overall v. a talented WR group. Loved the Henry Black INT forced by pressure from Rashan Gary. WOW! Rashan was in Murray's face a lot. Great to see him affecting plays like that.

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splitpea1's picture

October 29, 2021 at 12:30 pm

Overall it was a great team win, kind of unbelievable when you think about the contributions from the newer additions, rookies, and practice squad call-ups. Winfree and ESB had big catches. A couple of minor quibbles about strategy in specific situations, though:

On the Cardinals final drive, I thought the Packers should have brought more pressure with Murray backed up in his end zone. He had too much time, and so did the receiver to find the middle of the field. Take a chance and be more aggressive; you can't let Murray eat the clock and kill our chances of getting the ball back. Luckily things worked out for us in the end.

Goal line/gold zone offense: Maybe take more looks at some of the things the Chiefs do; the shovel pass to Lazard in our recent game vs. the Bears is a good example.

The special teams weren't perfect, nor will they ever be. The penalty committed by Taylor was unnecessary, and it seems like Hill needs to be reined in a little bit. Stuff like this happens will all teams, though. I think Drayton is doing the best he can, but he'll have to keep coaching his players with regards to avoiding mental mistakes.

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mnbadger's picture

October 29, 2021 at 12:31 pm

thankfully, one of those super duper wide receivers was more interested in blocking than catching passes! GPG!

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dobber's picture

October 29, 2021 at 12:44 pm

2--busted ACLs last night. Packers reporting both Tonyan and Hill are done for the year.

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Coldworld's picture

October 29, 2021 at 01:19 pm

I feared as much. I wonder if Funchess is healthy. I suppose it’s the Tyler Davis show at the moment.

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Leatherhead's picture

October 29, 2021 at 03:00 pm

Hill is out for the season because he returned a kick that he didn’t need to.

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jannes bjornson's picture

October 29, 2021 at 04:48 pm

Also the fact he took a helmet to the kneecap may have defined causality a bit more succintly.

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Leatherhead's picture

October 29, 2021 at 06:28 pm

Yeah, that’s one of the risks; that’s why you don’t do that. The meager extra yardage you might get isn’t worth losing a guy for the year.

Let it go into the end zone. Start on the 25.

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croatpackfan's picture

October 30, 2021 at 03:44 am

Are you sure that was Hill decision. Maybe he told to do that to spare another minute of the clock. There is not much difference between start from 20 or 25.

Hill also stumbled a little and he spent few steps to regain control, when he was hit.

I will recheck, but torn ACL are very often non-contact injury (remember Jordy, Tonyan?). Hill might stumbled at the moment ACL weas torned and was carried several steps ahead by inertion. To support this claim, he grabed the knee opposite the one he was hit in... Hill was hit in his right knee, but he grabed left knee.

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Coldworld's picture

October 30, 2021 at 08:48 am

I can not come up with a justification for an instruction to bring it out of the end zone in those circumstances. Even were such an option authorized, the opposing coverage should have quashed the idea. So is Drayton to blame? I remain dubious of his abilities, but it is too big a stretch to try to pin that on him in my book.

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Packers0808's picture

October 29, 2021 at 12:58 pm

Tonyan donef or year, Packers go and trade for replacement tight end, you think? There are 2-3 that would be acquisitions that aren't making a ton of money! Could trade a draft pick maybe?

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dobber's picture

October 29, 2021 at 02:43 pm

My understanding is that ATL is shopping Hayden Hurst. Cleveland is looking at moving Njoku. There are other guys out there, but these come to mind right off.

In edit...
https://www.nj.com/giants/2021/10/nfl-rumors-key-packers-injury-opens-do...

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Packers0808's picture

October 29, 2021 at 03:11 pm

Yup saw those among others!

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 29, 2021 at 03:37 pm

Njoku has a $6M base salary. So, $3M of our cap space if not redone?
Hurst = $1.98M. So, just $1M or so.
Engram = $6M (he and Njoku on 5th yr options). So, $3M?

All are one year rentals.

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Leatherhead's picture

October 29, 2021 at 06:40 pm

Steal Hockenson from Detroit.

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Cubbygold's picture

October 29, 2021 at 01:26 pm

Was this the biggest 'upset' in the Rodgers era? (defined as points underdog)

I've been trying to find this online, it seems like the biggest 'underdog' win was going to the Jets in 2010 as 6 point dogs?

Feels like if this was true, it would have been reported. Am I missing a game?

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HarryHodag's picture

October 29, 2021 at 02:18 pm

To me this shows spending tens of millions of dollars on Adams would not be a smart thing to do. Having a GOOD wide receiver corps is essential which the Packers now have. Adams can be a game changer but the cost next year wouldn't pay off long term, especially if Rodgers leaves.

You have lightning in a bottle when you have a great receiving corps. In the dimming days of Bart Starr's coaching tenure he signed John Jefferson to pair up with James Lofton. They were dynamic when Lynn Dickey was on. But the Packers defense then was so pathetic 30 points rarely would win a game. The most unbelievable play I saw at Lambeau was a 50 yard throw from Dickey to Lofton. At 50 yards the pass dropped in Lofton's hands over his shoulder. It was unstoppable. But the Packers lost the game.

Another receiver might be needed for next season if Adams leaves, but the priority should be elsewhere, like another potential All-Pro d-lineman.

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Cubbygold's picture

October 29, 2021 at 02:33 pm

I know most fans would hate this opinion, but I agree. In a world where money is endless, of course you'd bring him back. But under the salary cap system, as long as Rodgers isn't taking a Brady discount, sacrifices have to be made.

I think GB can get away with less talented receivers knowing that Rodgers and MLF can design plays that scheme players open, and operate knowing they have one of the best offensive lines and 1-2 RB duos in the league.

I'm more worried about Jaire, OLB and DL than WR. Use the money in those spots first.

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

October 29, 2021 at 05:05 pm

One game that they squeaked by without Adams, against a team that can struggle to defend the run?

Doesn't anybody remember 2015 when injuries hit the WR room? The offense really sputtered. They need talent. Adams is a top talent. Losing him would be a huge chunk of the offense. How are you planning to replace that? There's no jar on the shelf ready to take out and play. No one can emerged that can move the chains, come down with the contested catches, juke the defender at the line . . .

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croatpackfan's picture

October 30, 2021 at 03:53 am

Why then Davante dissapeared in last year NFCCG? The best receiver Packers had in that game was MVS. Elite players are elite always, not sometimes. Davante is HOF receiver by numbers, talent and abilities. But he can not beat alone any team. So an can not Aaron Rodgers.

Against top tier defenses, both of them can only lose the game.

And there is so many WR in every draft, that supply is endless. Some pan put, dome drop out. Draft is Crystal ball business.

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Guam's picture

October 30, 2021 at 08:01 am

The Packers are 7-0 in games Adams didn't play. Remind me again why we need to pay him $25 million a year?

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Stroh's picture

October 30, 2021 at 12:57 am

If Rodgers is gone after this season, it might be necessary to improve the WR Corp significantly. We have no idea about Love and even if he's going to be good a talented WR will make him better. Look at the weapons Rodgers had in his first few seasons as a starter.

If somehow Rodgers returns its much less necessary to sign Adams or draft WR really high. He makes good into quality and quality into great. Love can't do that. Yet...

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Packers0808's picture

October 29, 2021 at 05:30 pm

DeFense=DeVondre Campbell, playing like a mad man!

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ImaPayne's picture

October 29, 2021 at 10:10 pm

the pass defensive scheme is dom capers bend dont break and i never liked it. Murry who had an avg night moved the ball from the one to the 35 in four pass plays. Why do I think the coaches think thats okay. those passes arent scoring points.
Ya you bent to the we can tie this sucker point but they wanted a win and screwed up. They lost, we didnt win.

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barutanseijin's picture

October 30, 2021 at 07:30 am

Apply pressure and the other guys make mistakes. They miss catches, throw INTs, miss assignments and then they lose.

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Coldworld's picture

October 30, 2021 at 08:53 am

Somebody, I think Dobber, pointed out the reason that explains the change in defensive alignment to me. Against Murray, the plan was to dare the Cards to run as long as it was not Murray. Contain him, disrupt the pocket, force him to throw and let a mediocre run game be their focus or force Murray to improvise. It worked pretty well. It may have continued to do so if the refs had checked the increasingly blatant holding in the second half.

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mbpacker's picture

October 30, 2021 at 03:45 pm

Statistics don't always tell the full picture but it sure does in this game. Thanks!

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