Despite Losses, Packers Roster Stronger Than Before

There's a lot of talk about Davante Adams leaving the Packers. There isn't enough talk about how all the additions to this team more than make up for it. This year's Packer roster is better than last year.

The Packers have come so close to a title in each of the last three years.

A bizarre mix of bad matchups, bad decisions, and bad plays have kept them just short each time.

Heading into 2022, the Packers seem to have the talent to challenge for a title once again. In fact, they have a more talented roster than last year. 

There's a lot of focus on wide receiver, where the Packers lost Davante Adams and MVS.

Those losses sting, for sure, but let's set aside receiver for now and look at the other positions on the roster.

In the backfield, the Packers have Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Jones, and AJ Dillon. There are 31 teams in the NFL that would trade their backfield for this in 2022. It is unparalleled and every bit as talented as last year..

On offensive line, the Packers dealt with the losses of David Bakhtiari and Elgton Jenkins - two All Pro level talents - last year. This year, neither is healthy, but both are alleged to return at some point, which would give the team a huge boost over last year. As it stands, internal growth from young guys like Yosh Nijman, Royce Newman, Josh Myers, Jake Hanson, and Jon Runyan, coupled with three promising rookie additions, should be enough to at least mostly offset the loss of Lucas Patrick (who was a backup) and Billy Turner (who was good but not elite).

Tight end is pretty much the same group as last year. The only difference is that they expect to have Robert Tonyan for the second half of the season instead of the first and Josiah Deguara has a year of experience.

So, on offense, without taking receiver into account, things look pretty much the same, with the potential to improve noticeably when their two best linemen get healthy.

On defense, safety and edge rusher are pretty much the same as last year. Yes, the Packers lost Za'Darius Smith, but he only played part of one game and finished the regular season with just one more tackle than me. Given Rashan Gary's continued growth, a case could be made that edge is even better off than it was last year.

At middle linebacker, the Packers made a huge splash by selecting Quay Walker in the 1st round, Walker's speed and athleticism have been on display early in camp. Putting him next to De'Vondre Campbell, should strengthen the middle of the defense  - the Packers have never had inside linebackers like this.

In front of them, the Packers have made more investment in their defensive line than they have in a long time. We know Kenny Clark is a stud, but lining him up between to Dean Lowry and Ty Lancaster did very little to help him be his most dominant self as he faced constant double teams. After drafting disruptive, energetic Devonte Wyatt in the 1st round, the Packers signed former 2nd round pick Jarran Reed. Both additions have turned some heads in camp with their play. Plus, TJ Slaton has shown signs of growth.

It's no longer Kenny Clark and a couple bags of wood chips, it's a group of legitimate players that can rotate in and out while flexing sub packages for any situation. All of them will make each other better and I think we'll see the best defensive line performance since (at least) 2010.

Then there's the position that might be generating the most excitement: cornerback.

Last year, the Packers started with Jaire and Stokes and ended with Stokes and Douglas. Both tandems were very effective. This year, they have all three of them - and Douglas will get a full training camp to learn the defense while Stokes grows and learns from his rookie season. This is legitimately the best group of three corners in the NFL and is unquestionably better than last year.

And on special teams?

The temptation is to say "it can't possibly be worse," but I've been a Packer fan long enough to know better.

With a new coach and some new players, along with a renewed emphasis (again), I expect the unit to be better. The early issues in camp can be wrinkled out, but we don't yet know if they will or to what degree. What we do know is that Rich Bisaccia looks the part and the Packers have cut some of the worst special teams culprits from last years biggest meltdown. That should be enough for at least marginal improvement.

Now, let's revisit wide receiver.

Davante Adams was the best receiver in the game and MVS was a talented, if inconsistent, deep threat. Both are gone.

Have the been adequately replaced?

Well, you can't really replace Davante Adams - there is no one the Packers could draft or plug in there to replace him on a one-for-one basis.

Adding Sammy Watkins (a former top-5 talent), Christian Watson (one of the most athletic receivers to ever come out of college), and Romeo Doubs (who has been the darling of training camp) to go with Allen Lazard and Randall Cobb should make the group at least serviceable when you take into account the reigning back-to-back MVP will be throwing to them..

Still, it is a drop in talent, with a lot of unknowns.

It will have a negative impact on the offense and the team, but that's the nature of football. Every year, some guys leave and other join.

The real question is the net result.

The offense, outside of wide receiver, may be a bit better when they're healthy. Maybe it won't be enough to make up for the talent losses at receiver, but it's also helpful to remember that they'll be running a different offense. They won't be running a Davante Adams offense with a lesser receiver playing the part of Davante Adams. They will run an offense that caters to the players that are here. There may be a little improvement in other position groups on offense and coaching should help offset some of the losses they experienced, as will some of the new receivers.

Even if the offense takes a step back, the Packers should have an improved special teams unit and a much better defense. 

On the whole, this roster looks better than the one they put on the field last year, even without their former star receiver. 

 

 

 

Bruce Irons has played, coached, and studied football for decades. Best-selling author of books such as A Fan's Guide To Understanding The NFL Draft, A Fan's Guide To Understanding The NFL Salary Cap, and A Fan's Guide To NFL Free Agency Hits And Misses, Bruce contributes to CheeseHeadTV and PackersForTheWin.com.

Follow Bruce Irons on Twitter at @BruceIronsNFL.

 

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Handsback's picture

August 14, 2022 at 07:21 am

Very good commentary Bruce. It's the offense that should be run verses what has been run. The defense could be special ...we will see.

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PackyCheese500's picture

August 14, 2022 at 07:43 am

I wholeheartedly agree with what you’re saying. While this is definitely not the best group of WRs that Rodgers has played with, this is definitely the best overall team that Rodgers has been on since the 2010 season. It was a strong defense that led the Pack to a Lombardi trophy 11 years ago. I think that, with the downgrades at WR, the Pack may not be as effective in the regular season as they have been the past 3 years, but I think that a more well-rounded roster will lead to more success in the postseason. Hopefully this is the year. GPG!

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Ferrari-Driver's picture

August 14, 2022 at 08:30 am

One thing that is tough to take is having an opponent run the ball down your throat down after down. We had that happen in the Super Bowl loss to the Denver Bronco's years back. San Francisco is a team that loves to do the same. With the defensive line and two talented inside linebackers the Packers have this season, it will be no easy chore to run the ball up the gut or take it outside with the speed of the two inside backers. Make opponents throw the ball and we have the talent in the backfield to make them pay. I'm really looking forward to watching the Packers play defense this season.

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murf7777's picture

August 14, 2022 at 09:59 am

I just watched the last 5 minutes of the Denver SB, T. Davis was a one man wrecking crew. Being he had a 1st half concussion in today’s game he wouldn’t have been allowed back into that game and the Packers would’ve won IMO. Amazing what he accomplished in that game. I think the Packers were over confident with better talent. I think the spread on that game was around -13 Packers. The will and desire of that Denver team over came the more talented Packers.

I agree this Packers team should be far better and more physical against the run. One thing I noticed about Quay, he has long arms and big, strong hands. In college, when he got a hand on a player they went down. He wrapped them up, not just shoulder tackles.

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Ferrari-Driver's picture

August 14, 2022 at 11:26 am

I felt a major factor in the loss to Denver in that Super Bowl game was that Gabe Wilkens who was the right defensive end for the Packers banged up his knee after the first series in the game. Davis just killed us with his runs over Wilkens replacements. I remember a number of discussions that Wilkens should have played, but of course...who knows the real story and the extent of the injury. Too bad Sean Jones retired, he was a solid player and that defensive line of Reggie White, Santana Dotson, the Old Grave Digger - Gilbert Brown, and Sean Jones from the Super Bowl win the year before was undoubtedly among the best the NFL has ever seen on a football field.

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wildbill's picture

August 14, 2022 at 12:00 pm

Robinson said later that our HC refused to alter his game plan at halftime. Ego can be a real killer some times.

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NickPerry's picture

August 14, 2022 at 08:35 am

IMO the BIGGEST question I have is WHEN David Bakhtiari and Elton Jenkins will be back. Yes, the Packers have some fine depth, possibly really GOOD depth, but having DB and Jenkins back just makes this offense SO much better IMO. Jenkins is a road grader and an excellent pass protector. Bakhtiari is the BEST blindside protector in the business and even coming back from injury, I think he'll still be top 5. Get those two back and this offense can be more than good enough.

The WR position will be written about all season. Yes, Davante Adams is gone and it DOES matter. But Gute has done a decent job getting more than just bodies in the WR room with a limited cap. Like anyone who's a Packers fan, I'm stoked about Doubs. But I'm also stocked about Lazard, Watkins (yes Watkins) Cobb, and hopefully at some point Watson and Amari Rodgers. Watching that TD by Rodgers Friday night is EXACTLY how Amari Rodgers can be effective in this offense.

Do I really need to pump up Jones and Dillon? #1 RB tandem in the NFL!

This D-Line is legit. Having a rotation of Lowry, Clark, Wyatt, Reed, and Slayton in front of Campbell and Walker is really exciting. Walker is so fast and long and paired with Campbell who could be even better this year with a running mate and THAT D-Line AND Gary & Smith in front of him, gives the Packers a front 7 better than any they've had even before 2010.

I know, I know, this is my typical homer rant but I actually believe it's true. This Defense can carry the Offense until they get a few things worked out.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

August 14, 2022 at 08:57 am

Nick,
What you say is simply the truth and I'm in agreement.

Will add Tonyans return is huge!

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NickPerry's picture

August 14, 2022 at 11:11 am

Thanks Knock... I keep forgetting about Bi Bob...That will be huge.

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murf7777's picture

August 14, 2022 at 09:40 am

NP, you took the words right out of my mouth. It’s all about the OL. The WR’s and offense will be fine if, Bak, Jenkins and Tonyan come back at full strength. If they don’t come back there will be some growing pains since I don’t have faith the current line will provide the time for Rodgers to find open receivers. Dink and dunk will only work so long and is suspect in the playoffs if you struggle to go deep consistently.

I also believe this defense can carry the offense for the beginning of the year while the injured players get to full strength. On paper, proven by pro-bowl players at all three levels, is the best D since 2010. Throw in two 1st rounders and Reed this D has the wherewithal to be very, very scary to opposing offenses. My theory has always been D wins championships and I hope GB Defense proves it this year.

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NickPerry's picture

August 14, 2022 at 11:15 am

Hi Murf...I think Reed could very well turn into another Rasul Douglas or Campbell signing in terms of effectiveness. Throw him out there with any combination of the other Packers D-Line and he'll rock. THIS D-Line could be the key to the WHOLE Defense.

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wildbill's picture

August 14, 2022 at 12:01 pm

Starting in 1961, the Packers have never won a championship without a top five defense. Nuff said…

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PatrickGB's picture

August 14, 2022 at 08:49 am

Definitely a drop off in talent on offense. The defense has probably improved. The “wefense” is unknown because of Crosby’s knee. I see a drop off in total wins this year. Yet my hope is that the team gets stronger as the season goes on and we make the playoffs.

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Bure9620's picture

August 14, 2022 at 08:51 am

I would qualify this. The starters are on par with any team in the league. We however do not have the depth we have had. The secondary may well be the best in the league but very little safety depth and there are many unknowns after the 3 starting corners. OLB depth is a huge question. We are deep on the D line. Very little behind Cambpell and Walker.

O line depth will be tested immediately against some good fronts.

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Rossonero's picture

August 14, 2022 at 09:08 am

Most teams can't even boast the 3 corners that we have....and that depth was full on display last year when Jaire got hurt.

Yes, OLB depth is a concern, but like the article noted, Z'Darius Smith basically missed the whole season and we were fine. The assumption is Gary and Preston Smith stay healthy. I'm not saying there is zero risk, but I don't think it's quite as dire as we might think.

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Bure9620's picture

August 14, 2022 at 10:08 am

This is true, but I am not measuring this Packers team against average teams but against other Super Bowl contenders. Injuries will happen, some teams will be decimated more than others. I just think the drop off from our front line players is more precipitous than before. Rico Gafford looks lost in preseason, do we trust him if Jaire or Stokes goes down? I could see Gute claiming guys other practice squads if a rash of injuries hit, similar to the signing of Rasul Douglas.

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Bure9620's picture

August 14, 2022 at 10:08 am

This is true, but I am not measuring this Packers team against average teams but against other Super Bowl contenders. Injuries will happen, some teams will be decimated more than others. I just think the drop off from our front line players is more precipitous than before. Rico Gafford looks lost in preseason, do we trust him if Jaire or Stokes goes down? I could see Gute claiming guys other practice squads if a rash of injuries hit, similar to the signing of Rasul Douglas.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 14, 2022 at 08:58 am

It’s one of the strongest squads we’ve had since the merger. If the offensive line can get it done, this team will do very well.

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Rossonero's picture

August 14, 2022 at 09:12 am

If anyone wants historical examples of a HOF QB winning Super Bowls with good defense, special teams, despite a mediocre WR room, look no further than these examples of the Patriots doing it with Brady.

If Bisaccia can fix special teams, and Rodgers can spread the ball around like Brady did, this squad is absolutely capable of winning a Super Bowl. I also like the concept of unpredictability of the offense. With Adams being gone, opposing defenses haven't seen how we'll operate without him yet.

2019 SB winning team:
13 Phillip Dorsett
11 Julian Edelman
15 N'Keal Harry
16 Jakobi Meyers
14 Mohamed Sanu PR
18 Matthew Slater

2017 SB winning team:
80 Danny Amendola PR
85 Kenny Britt
14 Brandin Cooks
13 Phillip Dorsett
15 Chris Hogan
17 Bernard Reedy
18 Matthew Slater

2015 SB winning team:
80 Danny Amendola PR
11 Julian Edelman
14 Chris Harper
19 Brandon LaFell
82 Keshawn Martin KR
18 Matthew Slater

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murf7777's picture

August 14, 2022 at 09:47 am

That’s some scary WR rooms….LOL. I’ve stated this all along, it’s more about the OL and defense to win a championship with a HOF QB. WR’s rarely, if ever win championships. The best thing that happened was Adams being traded so we had cap room to sign Douglas and Campbell and adding a 1st and 2nd round draft pick this year. In addition, we have cap room to add to this roster as needed now and during the season.

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 14, 2022 at 09:59 am

Now do the TEs. You might notice a difference.

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murf7777's picture

August 14, 2022 at 10:07 am

LL….that’s very true, BUT and it’s a big but, if you go back to their SB wins you will notice mostly, if not all, NE had a top 5 defense. Brady had the luxury of a genius coach (great game manager and motivator) and great defenses. He didn’t need great WR’s and I’ll attest I don’t think Rodgers does either. Not taking anything away from Brady as he’s proven to be the best at winning the big ones and being a great leader.

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Bure9620's picture

August 14, 2022 at 10:10 am

You left Gronk off these lists...but yeah this is true.

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Bure9620's picture

August 14, 2022 at 10:10 am

You left Gronk off these lists...but yeah this is true.

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wildbill's picture

August 14, 2022 at 12:18 pm

The big difference is that Brady is a master of taking what the defense is giving, whereas Rodgers is prone to play a lot of “hero ball” and doesn’t seem to have the same patience. If Rodgers would channel his “ innerBrady” then things will be fine.

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Coldworld's picture

August 14, 2022 at 09:51 am

For this team to win it needs STs to be adequate and a sound or better D. I think both of those are realistic expectations. The real question is offense.

I think we had an excellent draft, but the reality is that our pass catching corps are old and often injured or inexperienced. It’s not just the receivers, there’s a lot of young players on O generally.

To succeed with this group we need to go back to letting the scheme help. We need more 2020 than 2021, and we need to use our running backs more centrally in terms of times and snaps and more intelligently to set up opportunities. I don’t think we’ve always been clever in how we use Dillon and Jones tactically. We need to be.

We need the illusion of complexity and to use more up tempo periods interspersed with formation changes to keep Ds guessing and allow younger players to do what they are ready to do to maximum advantage. If we don’t keep defenses stretched and guessing, I think we will have trouble.

The elephant in the room is whether Rodgers agrees. He is not the Rodgers of a decade ago. He doesn’t like to go hurry up, he doesn’t like to change personnel and he prefers to wait read and change. I don’t think that will work well with this group. Time will tell, but I think that is the biggest question mark.

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murf7777's picture

August 14, 2022 at 10:11 am

Good thoughts on Rodgers CW. I like the idea of hurry up in addition to his “wait, read and change” system. I just don’t understand why he doesn’t try that more often. If you watched NE’s offense they did just what you are saying and it was successful more than not.

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Bure9620's picture

August 14, 2022 at 10:12 am

I expect Watkins and Cobb to be IR'd at some point by mid season. Doubs and Watson will get pressed into duty.

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Bure9620's picture

August 14, 2022 at 10:12 am

I expect Watkins and Cobb to be IR'd at some point by mid season. Doubs and Watson will get pressed into duty.

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 14, 2022 at 10:16 am

According to Rodgers it's the offense that limits the ability to go up tempo because of all the motion. He brought up Manning as an example as a QB that could control the tempo because their sets were static with no motion.

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Coldworld's picture

August 14, 2022 at 11:53 am

He’s also said that he feels his ability to read defenses is more valuable and that takes time with a settled group to react and change calls.

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Since'61's picture

August 14, 2022 at 10:08 am

The biggest issue/question mark for this season is the Packers OL. If they are not effective the run game will suffer. Plus the new receiving corps may require the OL to provide Rodgers with extra time, even a fraction(s) of a second to find an open receiver. If they can’t provide that extra time Rodgers will pay the price.

The rest of the roster may be improved over 2021 but our offense and our team will go as far as our OL takes them.

Even an excellent defense cannot carry a team that cannot move the ball effectively as we observed in the playoff loss to SF last season. The Packers lost the game without allowing an offensive TD. Like it or not, until and unless, Bak and Jenkins return, the Packers roster is not completely improved and the OL is the most critical position group on the team. Thanks, Since ‘61

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murf7777's picture

August 14, 2022 at 10:14 am

Since 61, yes it’s the OL and you can say the same thing about the 4th quarter or most of the 2nd half of the Tampa loss the year before. Rodgers was being tossed around like a rag doll in that 2nd half. I really think we win both games with Bak.

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Since'61's picture

August 14, 2022 at 11:18 am

murf7777, I agree. With Bak Rodgers is better protected and our our run game is also more effective.
Thanks, Since '61

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Bure9620's picture

August 14, 2022 at 10:44 am

Totally agree since '61. If the OL can hold up in protection and create some running lanes, this offense is going score a good amount of points. It sounds like Jenkins is rehabing well and close to return which is huge. I do not expect to see Bahk.

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Bure9620's picture

August 14, 2022 at 10:45 am

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Since'61's picture

August 14, 2022 at 11:21 am

Bure9620, I hope you're right about Jenkins. His return will be huge. As for Bak, I'm hoping for the best but I'm also prepared for the possibility that he may not play again. Thanks, Since '61

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jannes bjornson's picture

August 14, 2022 at 12:42 pm

If their OTs will need chips by TEs again, the offense will be in trouble. We will have to see how Bhaktiari fares at the end of camp. If he's still on the shelf, Gutedkunst will need to bag a veteran for the outside flank.

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Bure9620's picture

August 14, 2022 at 03:22 pm

Baktiari is likely shelved.........indefinitely

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PewAuKeeFan's picture

August 14, 2022 at 10:22 am

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PewAuKeeFan's picture

August 14, 2022 at 10:23 am

Great article Bruce.

I tend to think that Aaron Rodgers will have more yards than last year. Why? Because the sum of the parts will be more than the whole... in this case Adams is the whole, and his receptions will be spread out with more receivers having substantial yards. Adams is not really a high yards per reception receiver, so probability of more yards goes up.

Where the Packers would take a hit is that we may need more receivers to compensate for the loss of Adams. That means the number of spots available for other positions goes down correspondingly.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 14, 2022 at 10:28 am

It’s preseason.

For this team to win…the Key to the season….is to not beat ourselves with turnovers, and to not have bad play in the secondary that leaves guys wide open. Fortunately, we have a QB who is the best ever at protecting the rock, and one of the best secondaries in the league. None of those people played very much.

We gave up one sack, so we protected our QB. We had holes in the run game. We had the kind of mistakes you have in preseason.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

August 14, 2022 at 10:34 am

Bruce,
Very well written article that I enjoyed. In agreement with pretty much all you share. I do feel you missed out on one critical aspect and that is the backup QB situation which is in much better hands this year as Jordan Love is a completely different player. This weekend he showed me he is well on his way to being a very good QB. I recognize there are many on here who if a QB isn't named ARod will find fault no matter what. I will share I understand somewhat as he has set a very high bar. I too struggled with Rodgers taking over from Favre as I watched all the QB failures for 20-years in GB prior to Favre.

With what Jordan demonstrated Friday (yes, there were some up and downs as to be expected) I very much liked what I saw. With him being only 23-years of age this young man will continue to improve exponentially for the next 10 years, and I can easily see him playing until he is 35-40 years old. Love needs more development but that is only going to come from game experience in order to fully develop. The rest of this pre-season is going to be critical for him to continue to evolve and show improvement now that he has this first pre-season game out of the way. I did not really understand why Love did not play the 3rd Qtr for additional experience and hope that he plays the first 3 Qtrs of each the next two pre-season games to help prepare him in the event the Packers need him during the season.

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HawkPacker's picture

August 14, 2022 at 12:14 pm

'I did not really understand why Love did not play the 3rd Qtr for additional experience and hope that he plays the first 3 Qtrs of each the next two pre-season games to help prepare him in the event the Packers need him during the season.'

I posted this as well to an article written yesterday Knock. I could not agree more.

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jannes bjornson's picture

August 14, 2022 at 12:54 pm

Why would playing against scrubs in the 3rd Qtr. help his game? He needs the reps vs the opponents better players in the first half of these practice games to get a better feel for their speed and athleticism.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

August 14, 2022 at 02:47 pm

Hawk,
Great minds think alike. 👍

Seems odd as Love will be the backup QB, plus the more they see in Love the easier decision they are going to have in determining what to do with him after season is over.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 14, 2022 at 04:27 pm

I’m pretty sure that decision has already been made.

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 14, 2022 at 03:45 pm

I doubt they'll risk him playing with 3rd string O linemen.

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Duneslick's picture

August 14, 2022 at 10:39 am

Sammy Watkins was NEVER a top 5 talent in the NFL. He was taken 5th in the nfl draft which does not mean much.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

August 14, 2022 at 10:47 am

I'd say the players I'm most fascinated in watching this year are going to be:
1. R. Gary by far! Like I used to enjoy watching Matthew's.
2. Romeo Doubs and watching take over the #2 spot before season ends
3. Quay Walker
4. R. Douglas in his new spot
5. A slimmed down Clark with all the firepower around him
6. D. Wyatt! Guy just going to be fun to watch.
7. Toure - he seems to have what it takes
8. Amari - no doubt about it...he will impress
9. Tonyan and the impact he will have on the offense
10. Jordan Love - believe he will get some game time experience this year.
11. David Bachtiari return from injury
12. Jenkins return from injury

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PhantomII's picture

August 14, 2022 at 11:38 am

It's up to ML to adjust the Offense w/o DA. I see AJones used in the pass game more frequently because he "IS"
a weapon running or catching the ball. I see Watson when healthy enough taking over MVS mission as well as Some backfield gadgetry...end arounds, etc. The Defense: I would really like a Vet Safety to pair up with our Starters there for depth. OLB: I think one of the guys on the roster steps up to good rotational player. I hope the other two stay healthy though. Our CB's are healthy again and I hear some chatter about Jean Charles taking a step from the depth standpoint. Really like our ILB's and Barnes is there for rotation purposes. The "D"Line is most exciting with all the depth coming into play including a salty Vet. AR knows going in he has to spread the ball around and I believe taking DA away overall has made the Defense much better and added much more Speed in the WR department.....Something that has been needed for a while. MVS is gone and I believe Watson will make us forget about him in short order, although I liked the kid and his cool dog video clips. Getting our 2 outstanding OL players back will be icing on the cake as well as Tonyan back with needing to show out and get paid. Overall we will be a tough out this season and I expect our Defense to dominate quite a few teams. Some of our rookie WR's will also have some highlight reel work also. GPG

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splitpea1's picture

August 14, 2022 at 11:45 am

The defensive roster is obviously stronger (especially on the front end), but any prolonged injury to an edge or secondary starter....the "next man up" will have a lot to prove.

Too may unknowns with the receiving corps and offensive line to say the same with the offense. No doubt about the running game, though. I hope Lucas Patrick won't be missed, but it was reassuring to have him around. And although the Packers will be better off in the long run with a more even ball distribution, the loss of Adams can't be glossed over in the short term; he has won games for us single-handedly (SF in the last regular season for instance), and he draws attention away from multiple defenders. Hopefully the true MLF offense will get into form quickly and mitigate this loss.

You were right with the temptation: The special teams couldn't get any worse, and although we say it every year, this time there really is nowhere to go but up. I'm confident we'll at least have the correct number and proper alignment of blockers on the LOS--all season long!

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wildbill's picture

August 14, 2022 at 12:25 pm

I know you have to take into account the opposing teams but I’m pretty sure we won every game Adams missed the last couple years. Just saying I think we should be fine. Just finding who Rodgers can count on in the red zone and 3/4 down is the issue

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jhtobias's picture

August 14, 2022 at 01:03 pm

While their are some very valuable points in this comment section : 1. If and when Bak and Jenkins come back , still don't think Hanson should be starting but it is what it is right now. Tonyan is a big key.

The one big problem I have had with Writers and Packer fans is the complaint about depth i.e. secondary include safeties . My question is how many if any teams have strong secondary depth outside the starting 2 in the NFL ? You are lucky to have a stud all pro Corner and a competent 2nd corner in this league but the packers have an all pro Jaire a competent 2nd in Stokes and maybe better , and a competent 3rd that can be a second in Douglass he also might be better than this. Crying about a 4th and 5th cornerback is just plain silly . You have one who should be an all pro safety in Amos who is overlooked for some reason. Savage is at least good enough to be a competent 2nd safety. Crying about a 3rd and 4th safety is silly. If 4th nd 5th stringers have to play game over anyway for any nfl team.

I will say TE is a big concern but will see.

Injuries on the O-line are part of the game, but the work they have done with 2ndd and third stringer sis quite amazing.

People don't give Gutey and his staff nearly enough credit

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stockholder's picture

August 14, 2022 at 01:11 pm

I'm going to point out one thing. The STs have to improve. They're still missing that Steve Tasker . Bill Bates or Larry Izzo…. And No one has shown up in the return stats, since 2010. We lost MVS, St. Brown, and Adams. Thats depth that knew the system. And Nobody has done anything yet! Things may look great on paper. But with the injuries. It's FLASH PAPER. And when did any ROOKIE stand out on Defense, without a Learning curve? My torpedo is still aimed at Love. He's continued to struggle. And this roster would have been better sooner. If Gutey didn't draft him! The No- Brainer was the DL. Not QB. Rodgers needed WRs. Even with Adams. ( The draft grades reflected that! ) This roster is better because of the veterans. Everybody's Happy! Because they no longer feel that every draft is life, or death.

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jannes bjornson's picture

August 14, 2022 at 04:28 pm

For whom the Bell Tolls, circa 2019. Sternberger over McLaurin is still making my teeth grind. Keke vs Van Ginkle another tour de force whiff from your own backyard and Dexter W. over Scotty Miller for the trifecta. Naturally, no fourth rd pick. The Love selection was their version of the Jimmy G Show. The entire second round was Gold.

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Vforrest's picture

August 14, 2022 at 02:18 pm

Agree with your one games assessment so far…The Pack is going to try to get guys on the PS that get poached that they’re really going to be bummed about. But you keep culling the heard with talent…that’s a what the best teams have to wrestle with…nice problem 😎

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zerotolerance's picture

August 14, 2022 at 02:30 pm

Excellent summary. Many thanks.

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