Could the Packers Keep More Than Six Wide Receivers?

Juwann Winfree and Samori Toure are making a case for a place on the 53-man roster.

The Green Bay Packers wide receiver room is an interesting paradox. Although there are concerns over the lack of a true WR1, what the wideout group does have is depth, and this could make for some difficult decisions come roster cut down time.

It is customary for most teams to keep at least five or six receivers, but the Packers already have six wideouts who seem like absolute locks to make the roster.

Barring injury, Allen Lazard, Sammy Watkins, Randall Cobb, Christian Watson, Amari Rodgers and Romeo Doubs are practically certain to be on Green Bay’s initial 53, but outside of that, there are even more receivers pushing for a spot.

Juwann Winfree has shown consistent improvement since arriving in Green Bay back in 2020, and has enjoyed a solid training camp so far.

He did play 143 snaps for the Packers last season, and Winfree’s steady veteran presence could earn him a place on the roster. He feels like a player Aaron Rodgers could stump for in the same way he did for Jake Kumerow.

Rookie Samori Toure has also flashed during camp, and broke out with an impressive Family Night performance which included a long touchdown.

Toure is a talented player with few true weaknesses in his game, and in another year, he could have been drafted much higher than the seventh round. The former Nebraska receiver is staking a claim for more than just a place on the practice squad.

So, could the Packers keep more than six wide receivers? There is an example in the not-too-distant past which suggests they could.

While Green Bay rostered just six receivers last season, as well as in 2019, and only five in 2020, they did retain eight wideouts back in 2018.

The eight receivers that year were Davante Adams, Randall Cobb, Geronimo Allison, J’Mon Moore, Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Equanimeous St. Brown, Jake Kumerow and Trevor Davis.

2018 was also the last time before this year in which Green Bay selected multiple wide receivers in the same draft, in Moore, Valdes-Scantling and St. Brown, which likely influenced Brian Gutekunst’s decision to keep more of them.

Based on that precedent, it would not be a surprise to see seven, or maybe even eight receivers on the initial 53 this year, and Winfree and Toure in particular would be well worthy of a roster spot.

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Mark Oldacres is a sports writer from Birmingham, England and a Green Bay Packers fan. You can follow him on twitter at @Marko7LW

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Bure9620's picture

August 07, 2022 at 12:17 pm

I don't understand the need to carry 7 WRs. This would nearly assuredly mean one is inactive on game day. The base perssonel is 12 perssonel, that is 2 WRs. I would argue even 6 WRs is a lot in this offense with the TEs playing a heavy role and also Aaron Jones will be split out a lot. You would essentially have 7 1/2 receivers. You can easily stash 2 on the PS and if one is claimed, so be it.

Maybe Rodgers or Toure sneak on the initial 53 if Watson starts the season on PUP.

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 07, 2022 at 01:22 pm

They actually played in 11 formation 61% or the time and 12 29% of the time. But the only played with 4 WRs for 47 snaps and 5 WRs for 3 snaps. McCarthy played with 4 or 5 WRs even less than that in 2018 but did play in 11 formation 77% of the time.

There is no reason to keep 7 WRs on the roster when you're not using them that often. I guess the caveat would be if you had a couple STs demons but that doesn't seem to be the case this year. I'd rather have that roster spot go to a defensive player that might actually see the field depending on the opponent your playing.

https://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/nfl-stats/personnel-groupings/offe...

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Bure9620's picture

August 07, 2022 at 01:29 pm

Right, and again, Aaron Jones is half reciever imo, wll be more this year.

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 07, 2022 at 02:22 pm

He was only out of the backfield on 13% of his plays last year. I think that goes up but not drastically, maybe to 20%.

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dobber's picture

August 07, 2022 at 01:41 pm

DATA! WOOT!

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 07, 2022 at 02:00 pm

I was actually really surprised when I went back to 2018 that MM didn't play more 4 WR sets. I'd like to hear his explanation for getting so vanilla. In 2011 it was a different formation on almost every play and it worked beautifully. Did he just get lazy or was there a real reason?

The other thing I was thinking about the other day was the year he said they had beefed up the statistics and analysis group and he had done a deep dive into what was working and what wasn't in the NFL. Then the season started and he called games exactly the same!

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Coldworld's picture

August 07, 2022 at 02:36 pm

2018 was a bit of a disaster on the WR front with injuries and performance. MM really didn’t have many options past 3. Not really a good year as a benchmark comparative or predictor.

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GregC's picture

August 07, 2022 at 01:30 pm

I guess the reason to carry seven would be to prevent any of them from being snatched off the practice squad by another team. Although WR #7 would be unlikely to suit up on game day, he would provide long-term protection if a rash of injuries strike the other WRs.

I think keeping seven is an idea worth considering if they have that many WRs who are deserving of a roster spot. You can always rotate players in other positions on and off the practice squad as needed.

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 07, 2022 at 03:23 pm

Isn't that like saying WRs are more valuable than other positions? Why would that be the case when there's so many of them?

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GregC's picture

August 08, 2022 at 06:54 am

Keeping more WRs would only make sense if there are enough talented WRs to make it worthwhile. That's the scenario that is considered in this article. But of course we won't really know until the end of training camp. If there are other position groups with more than their share of good players, then Gute might overload the roster at those positions. Ted Thompson often did this, and Gute did it with the WRs in 2018. (The spellcheck feature keeps changing Gute to Cute.)

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mnbadger's picture

August 07, 2022 at 05:10 pm

Trade one for TE or DE or S depth when injuries strike other teams IMO. All in, add depth. GPG!

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 07, 2022 at 08:05 pm

There is no legitimate reason to assume that Amari Rodgers is a lock, other than comments made by Gute. He does look quicker than last year, and he seems to have some burst this year. But he didn't look quicker than other receivers, nor was his burst something that set him apart. And he is legitimately tiny.

As a receiver, Amari isn't a lock. He has been the punt returner, but he just wasn't particularly good at it last year. He looks more sure-handed, or more natural anyway, this year.

This is draft status/GM ego rearing its ugly head. He probably is in the mix for WR 6 or 7 on his own merits. Putting him on the PS (he is not necessarily going to clear waivers or be inclined to sign with GB if he does clear waivers) is almost cap neutral in 2022, though there would be a $460K dead money hit in 2023.

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Bure9620's picture

August 07, 2022 at 08:23 pm

TGR, just the fact you feel the need to mention Amari Rodgers potential dead money hit in 2023 during the 2022 training camp speaks volumes.......He does nothing special

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Leatherhead's picture

August 07, 2022 at 11:11 pm

Disagree, TGR. We’re not going to cut a Day 2 pick after one year. It almost never happens and Rodgers hasn’t nearly been bad enough to warrant being the exception. I expect he will join Doubs, Watson, and Toure on the team next year.

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 08, 2022 at 12:27 am

You said they shouldn't keep 7 so who are they cutting from Watkins, Lazard and Cobb?

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Leatherhead's picture

August 08, 2022 at 04:39 am

I’m not assuming any of those three will still be here in 2023. Rodgers, Doubs, Watson, and Toure will all be on their rookie deals.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 08, 2022 at 02:43 am

Watson, Watkins, Lazard, Cobb, Doubs = 5.

If GB keeps 6, then Amari, Toure, Winfree, and Malik Taylor are fighting for one spot (with Hyman, Osirus Mitchell, and Danny Davis as PS candidates).

I fear that you are right, so to a certain degree, we don't disagree as to what will happen. I am discussing this in terms of what should happen.

There is a lotta time left, to paraphrase our founder. I will write this: I would suggest to Mr. Amari Rodgers that he should refrain from muffing 2 or 3 punts during the preseason games.

Let us revisit this subject August 30th, or a little sooner should circumstances warrant.

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splitpea1's picture

August 07, 2022 at 12:18 pm

The extra one would have to be a true special teams stud.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 07, 2022 at 12:24 pm

Yes, because more WRs are always the answer. That never changes. And we should add OBJ, too.🤪🤪

We play two, or three. The fourth guy is in the rotation. The fifth guy does special teams. The sixth guy is inactive on gameday. The seventh, and eighth are practice squad guys.

We throw about 35 passes a game. About half of those go to the RB and TE. Of the remaining 18 passes, about half will be directed at our main dog, which appears at this time to be Lazard. The remaining WR targets will be split up mostly by #2 and #3, with #4 maybe getting a target or two. The cream will rise to the top.

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PhantomII's picture

August 07, 2022 at 02:55 pm

Not IF: But when ML completely shuts down the run game in the playoffs like he has 3 years in a row...You better have enough WR's with speed and elusiveness to get open. Basically you have to have the horses to run to win or pass it to win because really good defenses take something away or your HC abandons it when a RB gets hurt...Like it or not this is ML playoff SOP and you have to be able to do both and AR is gonna have to spread it around more.

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Guam's picture

August 07, 2022 at 06:47 pm

The Packers will keep six WRs and no more. WRs are no more important to the team than any other position so why would they keep a disproportionate number? Do you cut an O-lineman or a TE to keep an additional WR? This is a zero sum game and to suggest keeping 8 is just nuts because of what it does to other positions.

I think Rodgers, Toure and Winfree are competing for one spot unless Watson goes on PUP starting the season. The only way that changes is injury (Cobb? Watkins?).

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Leatherhead's picture

August 08, 2022 at 10:18 am

Totally agree with the first paragraph, Guam, but I think the “competition “ heavily favors a second year Day 2 pick over a guy like Winfree. When we drafted Toure, I thought right away he’d be our practice squad guy and replace Winfree. Still do.

I think the distaste for Amari Rodgers is out of place, frankly. Whether it was returning punts or kicks, he did not have a single turnover and did not break himself.. He was not responsible for blocked punts or missed FGs.

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Coldworld's picture

August 08, 2022 at 07:00 pm

Toure May displace Winfree. But Winfree May displace Rodgers. When is a vet not a vet? When he hasn’t done anything substantive. You hang on to demonstrated potential in the hope it can be realized, but you hang in to the best combination of visible potential and demonstrated present value.

Your argument would have had players like Lazard and Tonyan canned because they weren’t draft picks. We’d be starting Sternberger. Lazard and Tonyan were Winfree types who just kept getting it done. Perhaps Winfree is too, he certainly has In Practice: more so than Rodgers. He did more last year too.

This isn’t a talent free roster, particularly in terms of potential. If Rodgers can’t out play at least one rookie or a UDFA, and there even is a serious conversation about that and what he brings to the offense in year 2, then there is a real problem.

This year there are other alternatives. The best ones will stick if there is a big differential. Under your argument, Rodgers would be ahead of Doubs. He’s not. He’s not in the same thought. When it’s closer, it’s how do they help the team? Toure and Winfree (even Taylor) all offer more variety, all play the slot.

If Doubs can’t return punts—from what I hear, that competition is essentially over as much as possible before games have been played—then maybe he gets the nod. He could also win the kick return competition, but doesn’t seem the favorite. Injuries can happen to change that, but today, his third round status is meaningless. There are other credible alternatives that seem to offer more versatility, athletic potential and have delivered more often and more effectively.

Rodgers can change that. He can go out and show real speed and elusiveness and make some wow plays that exceed those if his rivals and then show more consistency. The same is true in returns . If he does, everything changes, but thus far he hasn’t this year, slim and trim though he is. He has looked slower and less agile than Winfree, maybe even Taylor this time last year, and nothing close to what Doubs and even Toure have flashed.

You increasingly sound like a guy with his thumb in an overflowing dyke. Probably one three back from your first line of defense. You started with Rodgers over Doubs and have gradually retreated to it now being Rodgers after Doubs and Toure. Even that is dubious.

Without a radical emergence by Rodgers he does not deserve a place as of today. Not on O, not on STs and were Gute to stick with him, we’d likely be the worse for it if Winfree was needed in season from roster or PS. Minor it maybe, since neither may make the team. Toure is a whole lot more significant potentially and Doubs far more so again.

Rodgers has a chance over 3 games and a scrimmage to show his pick was a good one and that he is the player we thought he would be. Toure has the same challenge. Winfree and Taylor will be trying to show they are better than both as a WR and in terms of general value. Each one can advance their case or destroy it. Let’s see what happens but, so far, the only one Rodgers has seemed better than is himself last year when his pick did get him a bye. Like Moore, when others consistently outperform you, that’s a one year ride.

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ImaPayne's picture

August 07, 2022 at 12:36 pm

Right now they all look good. Lets talk end of the pre season and dropsies and see how many receivers they keep. The ability to know the play book, make cuts. run the right plays, block some also count and I cant beleive we have a host of guys who can all do this.

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 07, 2022 at 01:04 pm

I have a feeling you're right but I haven't looked at a Vikings roster lately.

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13TimeChamps's picture

August 07, 2022 at 12:41 pm

Someone at CHTV needs to suggest to Mr. Oldacres to use a larger font size in his articles.
Kind of difficult for us old timers to read.

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Ferrari-Driver's picture

August 07, 2022 at 01:37 pm

The font is a little small for us old timers. I bumped the zoom level from 100 to 125 to make it a lot easier to read. Generally the zoom is located in the upper right hand corner.

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PatrickGB's picture

August 07, 2022 at 12:41 pm

Ah, no.

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Coldworld's picture

August 07, 2022 at 01:15 pm

Yes it’s possible, but only if we have key ST performers. If Doubs returns punts and, say, Toure or Watson kicks then maybe. If Gafford returns kicks or Doubs does both then probably not unless, if they want 6 and Watson isn’t ready to contribute, they aren’t going to waive him. He could be the 7th. Alternatively, if one lock is out for a week or two injured, there could be 7 to start out.

Right now, I disagree based on camp snaps and performance with your assumed locks. The locks are Watson, Watkins, Cobb, Doubs and Lazard. There are no others. The most likely 6th is Toure. If one goes down it might be Rodgers if it’s Cobb, but it’s more likely Winfree who can play all positions.

There are 5 truly slot capable guys if you count Winfree and Toure. Add Jones and it’s 6 catchers. Just because Gute made encouraging comments about Rodgers we seem to be ignoring what’s happening on the field in terms of plays made, potential shown, consistency and snap counts. If that were the right interpretation we’d have had J’Mon Moore till this year.

Rodgers either comes out if his shell with a bang on O or wins a starting return job. At this point the only way that seems likely on punts is that Doubs is barred by the team or gets hurt. Since he looks like WR 4, I’d be surprised if he’s barred. Maybe kicks, but he’s not been the preferred guy there so far and we haven't seen Watson yet either.

My guess at this point is 6: Lazard, Cobb, Watkins, Doubs, Toure and Watson. That is 4/5 slot capable players and 4 perimeter guys and includes the likely punt and possibly kick returners (Gafford appears the leader there so far). Both Doubs and Toure are capable of slotting in for anyone and of playing in the slot, on the perimeter or going deep. If one gets hurt, Winfree makes it and again can play all WR roles.

Rodgers at this point goes to the PS if they see enough physical upside if not he follows the much more physically gifted Moore out of town as a guy who just couldn’t deliver ( in his case, just isn’t as good an athlete or as versatile as others: Moore just couldn’t catch in games despite highlight plays inconsistently in practice).

If that’s unfair to Rodgers, he’s got three games and a scrimmage to show that he’s the athlete and playmaker we hoped for and a better current and future option than Toure and Winfree. Right now there’s precious little evidence of such athletic potential or consistent play making and snap numbers and who they are taken with support that even before Family Night. Maybe he will shine in games, but last year suggests he was better in practice.

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Bure9620's picture

August 07, 2022 at 01:27 pm

We actually only have 4 locks currently. Watkins, Lazard, Cobb and Doubs. Watson is on PUP and until further notice, I am assuming he is there to begin the season, until activated. If so, he is obviously a lock.

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Coldworld's picture

August 07, 2022 at 01:24 pm

I think it’s reasonably safe to say Doubs is a lock on potential alone given what he’s shown to date. They aren’t getting him through waivers!;

Watson is supposedly going to be ready. If he is they will want him to get any practice time he can and they aren’t going to waive him. If he’s on the Pup still, then they have to take him off when he passes a physical. They would then have to waive or add him to the roster shortly after.

There is zero chance he is waived, but given the lack of practice time (as opposed to game prep) in season he’d likely be inactive or have a very limited role. In that scenario they keep 6 and add him with either injury making a space or waiving one, most likely Winfree. Until then Toure is likely to have been the second deep threat guy with Winfree the game day reserve.

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Coldworld's picture

August 07, 2022 at 05:53 pm

I gather Watson was working with the rehab group for the first time today.

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 07, 2022 at 02:37 pm

There's a chance they'll have to cut somebody to get Watson to IR for 4 weeks if he still hasn't played. Not ideal but if he still isn't back no sense in rushing him. I think it was "just" a scope which is usually 4-6 weeks(they told me 6-8 weeks but I'm over 50) so I'm thinking he could be back anytime. If he's not and they think he'll miss the first two or 3 weeks might as well IR him for a month.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 07, 2022 at 02:59 pm

We are not going to cut Amari Rodgers after a year. That isn’t how this organization operates.

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 07, 2022 at 03:32 pm

You don't think Toure is ahead of him as of right now? Somebody has to be cut and they won't cut somebody better just because Rodgers was a 3rd round pick. I hope they won't anyway.

He's been better this year than last year but Doubs and Toure have been better than that. And Winfree is in the discussion.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 07, 2022 at 05:12 pm

Well, in a couple of weeks, we’ll know.

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Coldworld's picture

August 07, 2022 at 06:13 pm

A great deal of water will pass under the bridge before then: 3 games and a scrimmage in which all these non locks are going to play a lot and have plenty of chance to change their perception either way, if they can stay healthy. At this point we can only go off what we have seen to date.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 07, 2022 at 08:12 pm

I fear you're correct.

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GatorJason's picture

August 07, 2022 at 01:35 pm

Once Amari Rodgers gets shipped to Jacksonville for a conditional 5th, the Packers will keep Toure as their 6th WR. Danny Davis and Ishmael Hyman will go to practice squad. Winfree will be cut. He has a reputation for turning the ball over. That's not a red flag. That's a nuclear flair in the NFL. Surprised he is still on the squad.

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Coldworld's picture

August 07, 2022 at 06:19 pm

Winfree has had some issues, if not so far this year, but I think that’s a little overstated. In any case, that’s the point of preseason. Fumbles and the yips catching are among the major negative factors in assessment along with more positive ones.

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Slim11's picture

August 07, 2022 at 08:26 pm

Rodgers traded? That’s a possibility considering Gutekunst got draft choices for the likes of Trevor Davis and Ty Montgomery.

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dobber's picture

August 07, 2022 at 01:45 pm

Don't we ask this question EVERY year?

It seems that the Packers are deep at WR every camp and we end up doing thought experiment backflips trying to rationalize keeping extra WR motivated by the worry that the Packers can't sneak guys through to the PS or will lose a worldbeater at cutdowns. Last I checked, that has yet to happen.

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Coldworld's picture

August 07, 2022 at 02:01 pm

We haven’t had a true highlight reel rookie WR for a long time. It’s a very long time indeed since we’ve had one with such potential on the bubble. Doubs isn’t clearing waivers, I very much doubt Toure will unless we disappear him. Rodgers probably does now and Winfree too.

It’s all about perceived upside/ current utility and there are some pretty thin WR corps out there. I think Winfree plausibly makes the Bears depth better for one (they may disagree or see better options).

Would seeing Rodgers on their roster really perturb you though? That’s a pretty good litmus test.

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Bure9620's picture

August 07, 2022 at 02:03 pm

No way Doubs would clear waivers. I think Toure very likely would or will. Toure is a PS candidate for sure. According to several of the national taking heads, we have one of the weakest WR corps in the league.....

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Coldworld's picture

August 07, 2022 at 02:21 pm

Film is watched by FOs and Toure’s performance will have been noted. Teams will watch him and others who spark.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 07, 2022 at 02:52 pm

According to the posters here, we had one of the weakest WR units n the league in 2020, when we led the league in scoring and TD passes.

Toure will clear wavers, and Doubs won’t have to.

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Coldworld's picture

August 07, 2022 at 03:52 pm

Last year is pretty much irrelevant in terms of the receiving yards since the two of the three top receivers aren’t Packers: Adams and MVS are gone. Of the remnants, Lazard had 500 yards and Cobb 375. Jones had 400.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 07, 2022 at 05:18 pm

It’s the same coach, same offense, same thrower. Many of the same people. I wouldn’t consider that “irrelevant “.

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Coldworld's picture

August 07, 2022 at 06:23 pm

Of the catchers, the biggest contributor is gone, one returning player is being asked to take on a much bigger role and another managed 12 games and 375 yards. The second biggest remaining contributor is a running back who had 400 passing yards.

This year the top 3 include 4 include a new veteran expected to start and a rookie. The others are a player in a new role and a limited snap vet. Whoever ends up backing them up it is safe to say they did not contribute significantly last season.

It’s widely expected that this O will have to function rather differently this year. There is no obvious central focus like Adams. The slack will likely have to be absorbed from different positions and players and not all in the air probably.

I’d say that was meaningfully different to a point where we did it last year is if little relevance.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 07, 2022 at 06:40 pm

I think you overstate Adams’s importance. Did our passing attack collapse without Sharpe? Without Walker? Jennings? Jordy?

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Coldworld's picture

August 07, 2022 at 07:22 pm

Adams importance to the passing attack and the offense last year? I don’t think I do. As Rodgers and LaFleur have both said, 80% of the offense went through him by design.

The others you mention we’re not playing last year and part of very different offenses and rosters.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 07, 2022 at 08:23 pm

My issue is that both receivers who commanded double teams are gone. That is going to make the underneath stuff harder to scheme open.

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 07, 2022 at 10:37 pm

Who is the bleeping bleep that downvoted that? 🙄

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Coldworld's picture

August 07, 2022 at 10:59 pm

That’s why we need plates like Doubs, Watson, Toure who can perhaps force Ds s to stretch vertically at first and maybe start to attract double teams. At least in paper there are more legitimate deep threats this year. We also need to use more deception to shake players free.

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Coldworld's picture

August 07, 2022 at 11:02 pm

Duplicate

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Bure9620's picture

August 07, 2022 at 05:55 pm

All true, but imo, this is just lack of opportunity. Allen Lazard is a very good football player. He is a terrific blocker and the Packers wanted to utilize him as such. This just meant less targets. When targeted, Lazard was a heck of an efficient receiver. I think the Packers are going tp have one of the best rushing attacks in the league. Not only do they have Jones and Dillion, but their top 2 WRs are two of the best blocking WRs in the game. This is also one of the reasons for the Packers interest in Watkins.

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Bure9620's picture

August 07, 2022 at 05:56 pm

All true, but imo, this is just lack of opportunity. Allen Lazard is a very good football player. He is a terrific blocker and the Packers wanted to utilize him as such. This just meant less targets. When targeted, Lazard was a heck of an efficient receiver. I think the Packers are going to have one of the best rushing attacks in the league. Not only do they have Jones and Dillion, but their top 2 WRs are two of the best blocking WRs in the game. This is also one of the reasons for the Packers interest in Watkins.

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Coldworld's picture

August 07, 2022 at 06:25 pm

Lazard may well step up, my point was that he will have to do more and more varied things, not that he can’t or the O can’t, but both will be very different. Neither the O as a whole nor Lazard will be just replicating what they did last year.

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Bure9620's picture

August 07, 2022 at 02:02 pm

No way Doubs would clear waivers. I think Toure very likely would, he is a PS candidate for sure. According to several of the natiobal taking heads, we have one of the weakest WR corps in the league.....

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mnbadger's picture

August 07, 2022 at 07:20 pm

Which likely means that our WR's GPG! rock!

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GregC's picture

August 07, 2022 at 02:19 pm

Point taken, but this year really may be an exception due to taking three WRs in the draft. Two of those are locks and the other is looking like a strong contender for a roster spot. Plus there's a third round pick from last year and Aaron Rodgers' special friend Randall Cobb (who's still a decent player). In 2018, Gute kept eight, and one of them (Trevor Davis) was a special teams guy. There does not appear to be a standout specialist in this bunch, so keeping eight again would be a big stretch, but seven is not.

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Bure9620's picture

August 07, 2022 at 02:21 pm

They have never kept 8 receivers

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Coldworld's picture

August 07, 2022 at 02:39 pm

I think you will find that they kept 7 with Kumerow on IR: Davante Adams,
Randall Cobb,
Geronimo Allison,
J’Mon Moore,
Marquez Valdes-Scantling,
Equanimeous St. Brown,
Trevor Davis

With injuries and performance issues, that might have been the worst year in decades for both depth and quality of WR play aside from Adams and MVS.

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 07, 2022 at 03:08 pm

I think it's probably like that on every NFL roster. Every year Packers fans worry about WRs making it to the PS. Who have they cut that ever made a difference on another roster. Charles Johnson for a hot second?

I think it's a product of the proliferation of 3 and 4 WR sets in college but there hasn't been a down year for WRs in the draft for quite awhile. The Packers will likely be looking for one or two more next year.

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dobber's picture

August 07, 2022 at 04:15 pm

Yes, yes, and yes.

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jhtobias's picture

August 07, 2022 at 02:33 pm

I have no idea if they keep 6 or 7 but posters on this site thinking Amari Cooper will last on the practice squad are so far off base. I'm not saying he is good enough and that's not the point . Truth is he was a third round pic last yr in fact I think they moved up to get him , but I'm sure other teams had him third round also .

They might cut Amari your right, but only if they feel they made a mistake with him because some team will pick him up he will not make it to the practice squad.

Winfree makes no sense to me he seems to piss Rodgers off all the time not saying he is talented but I bet Rodgers likes toure or others over Winfree .

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 07, 2022 at 03:15 pm

Rodgers just praised him at the start of camp last week?

"I wouldn’t be surprised if 88 is over there saying ‘I’m a pretty damn good football player, don’t forget about me’…I think he definitely is going to put himself into a position to have an impact,” Rodgers said. “I’m really proud of Juwann. He’s always been a professional for us.”

I wish they had Amari Cooper instead of Amari Rodgers!

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Coldworld's picture

August 07, 2022 at 07:26 pm

Lol, Is the down vote reflecting disagreement with Rodgers’ opinion or signifying lack of belief that he uttered it?

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 07, 2022 at 09:22 pm

Or maybe somebody prefers Rodgers over Cooper?

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Coldworld's picture

August 07, 2022 at 11:03 pm

Let’s keep within the bounds of reason!

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

August 07, 2022 at 02:41 pm

I dont know how many WR's that will be kept, so won't guess. My response likely won't be popular (and not likely what the Packers will do) but from what I saw Friday night guys like Doubs, Toure, and Rodgers are the future. They are young and talented & will continue to develop, plus will be playing special team's.

Cobb & Watkins are injury prone and certainly gone from roster in 2023, plus they do not play Special Teams. Throw in Lazard playing on his last year of contract.

Doubs is guaranteed a spot and will likely become WR #2 some time during the season. It's up to guys like Toure, Davis, Amari & even Winfree to show their value by cut down day and if they do it is actually guys like Cobb and Watkins who should be on the chopping block. Why keep dead weight if the aforementioned young WR's step up and show their value with promising long-term upside? It's a young man's game!

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 07, 2022 at 03:27 pm

Whoa, Doubs WR2?? Leatherhead is going to be all over you! I caught a ton of grief just for saying he could be WR3. You know he's only a day 3 pick and Rodgers was a 3rd rounder with a year of experience right? 😉

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

August 07, 2022 at 04:26 pm

LOL!

I have deep respect for Leatherhead!

LLC....personally I think Doubs talent simply passes the eye ball test even from watching him from the stands on Friday night. He isn't just another player out there on the field, but one you quickly notice from his movements, speed, hands, and cuts, etc. He is smooth and seems to glide!

Doubs will be #2 for these reasons:

a. Pure talent & production
b. Rodgers is talking him up
c. Combination of Cobb & Watkins being injured & not being able to produce when needed

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Bure9620's picture

August 07, 2022 at 05:59 pm

Doubs is currently boundary WR #3. Now in this offense, that still likeltly means less than 50% of offensive snaps.

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Coldworld's picture

August 07, 2022 at 06:29 pm

Doubs plays all Positions and did on Friday. The other who did that was Lazard. He won’t just be seen on the boundary.

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dobber's picture

August 08, 2022 at 06:56 am

Has a lot to do with if and when Tonyan is ready to play.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 08, 2022 at 12:01 pm

Agree, Bure. With Watson out, it’s Lazard-Watkins - Doubs in the WR rotation, with Cobb and Rodgers occupying the slot.

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Bure9620's picture

August 07, 2022 at 05:59 pm

Doubs is currently boundary WR #3. Now in this offense, that still likely means less than 50% of offensive snaps.

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 07, 2022 at 06:22 pm

They played 3 WRs on 61% of the snaps last year and Doubs and Lazard can both play in the slot. I think he's #3 unless Watson comes back soon and really looks impressive. I think Watson is probably more in a rotation with Watkins at X but we won't know until he plays. Hopefully he at least plays in one preseason game. It sounds like he's hanging around Aaron in practice and asking a lot of questions which is a good sign.

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 07, 2022 at 06:09 pm

Just from watching clips on him and hearing about his work ethic I thought Doubs had a chance to eventually become a solid #2 but I didn't think it would be this year. It's early days yet but he's had the most big plays so far in camp and certainly looks the part. A lot depends on when Watson gets back and if Watkins can stay healthy. They need some deep threats and it looks like Doubs can be one of them.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 08, 2022 at 11:53 am

Hold on there a second ,LL..

The WORST thing I’ve ever said about Doubs is that he wasn’t going to get a lot of opportunities unless the veterans ahead of him, or Watson, got hurt or performed poorly. I stand by that. I think he’ll be active in the opener and will see some offensive snaps. He certainly could , during the season, be our #3 option ar WR. I just think a lot of things have to happen for that to occur.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 07, 2022 at 08:53 pm

Agreed in principle. The Packers do have to keep an eye out for 2023. Watkins, Cobb, and Lazard are likely gone, all three or at least some of them.

Watkins is the only proven "X" receiver on the team. Lazard can play X but it isn't his best position and the team shouldn't want him nailed into the X position. Doubs looks like he can play X, but he's a rookie. Ditto for Watson. We know Cobb and Amari can't play X. Toure looks awfully thin to play X at this point in time against real NFL press coverage. The notion that Watkins might be a surprise cut (his contract makes that possible) occurred to me only to be dismissed. I suppose there is time for guys to show this ability. Can Winfree play X? IDK. I would not say he is proven, at any rate.

Cobb is AR's friend. He can still play and took a pay cut to stay. His contract does mean he can be cut to save $2.65M on the 2022 cap. [Ignore OTC: this is another case of OTC putting in weird numbers to see if people are copying them. It is wrong and deliverately wrong.] I suspect Cobb is going nowhere. I think Cobb's speed and quickness are mostly but not completely gone and he is getting by more on savvy and his connection with AR.

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 07, 2022 at 09:37 pm

You hit on my biggest concern for the WRs right now. I think Watson makes sense for the backup X receiver because he's big, strong and fast. If he catches a couple deep balls early in the season teams will shy away from pressing him. But neither he or Doubs have seen NFL press before so until they do you won't know how they handle it. It would be nice to leave Doubs at Z and slot until next year when he has an offseason to work on defeating press. Maybe that's what their doing, I've seen no mention of him going against Alexander in practice. Would it be worth lining Doubs up at X and letting Alexander get a little feisty with him?

I've seen clips of Watkins handling press to the point of the CB coming after him after the play was over so I'm not worried about him at X as long as he's healthy. Not sure how fast he is anymore though. I think we could see some combinations with Watkins, Watson and Doubs too, assuming they're healthy at the same time. 🤞

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mrtundra's picture

August 07, 2022 at 04:59 pm

UDFA WR Danny Davis has had a decent camp and should not be neglected when talk of making this team comes up. I've heard more about Davis than I have about Toure, until Family Night, where Toure shined. Davis will probably be a ST guy, but could ascend, if something happens to one of the other WRs. GO PACK, GO!!!

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Coldworld's picture

August 07, 2022 at 05:19 pm

Davis has surprised, but you are hearing about him more as he’s a UW guy and thus of interest for media here. Actually Hyam, formerly of the USFL has arguably been more impressive and as surprising, including an impressive catch on Family night I think.

Both have earned comments about maybe being PS candidates. I don’t think I’ve heard, or that their places on the depth chart support, a belief that they are roster candidates. Hyam seems to be little ahead of Davis based on snaps and who they are from. I am looking forward to seeing them In The second half of games.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 07, 2022 at 09:00 pm

Agreed. Davis has been brought up as a PS candidate only, not a guy who might make the roster this year. Andy Herman loves him. Hyman really surprised, so over the course of practice he has earned consideration as a candidate for the PS. Too many guys under consideration for the 53 for Hyman to make that jump this year.

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Smitty_18's picture

August 07, 2022 at 05:22 pm

I feel pretty confident that they’ll keep 7 - Lazard, Cobb, Watkins, Watson, and Doubs are locks, Rodgers feels pretty safe, and Toure has had a lot of buzz.

I think they compensate by only rostering three TEs on the initial 53 (with Tonyan starting on the PUP), though. 10 pass catchers plus 3 RBs with plus receiving ability (I’m assuming Goodson beats out Taylor/Baylor) feels about right.

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Coldworld's picture

August 07, 2022 at 06:31 pm

Goodson has been horribly bad in pass pro. That could yet preclude him making the roster.

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dobber's picture

August 08, 2022 at 07:04 am

With as many 2-TE sets as they play, I don't think they skimp at the TE position to start the season. PUP means Tonyan's untouchable for quite a while, and they'd likely need to bring in another TE after cuts.

Could happen, though: they might cut that 4th TE to keep another player who might not make it through waiver claims so they can IR someone after cutdowns and bring back that 4th TE. Teams do that kind of gymnastics at cutdowns all the time.

As you indicate, though, it has a lot to do with when Tonyan practices. But however they handle it, I don't see them with only 3 active TEs in week one.

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marpag1's picture

August 07, 2022 at 05:49 pm

Every year... this whole argument comes back again, and it never seems to get any smarter. Some people seem to have this very strange idea that if you have a WR room that is largely populated with pedestrian talent, or at best totally unproven talent, and very few if any true standouts, then it means you need to keep MORE of them. Uh... no. It means you should keep less of them. Cuz... you know... they're not standouts.

You KEEP players because they are obviously good, or because they show tremendous potential. You don't keep more because all of them are pretty ho-hum.

This article actually speaks about Juwann Winfree's "steady veteran presence." It really says that. THE DUDE HAS 8 CATCHES FOR 58 YARDS IN HIS ENTIRE 3 YEAR CAREER. His longest catch ever went for 12 yards. The article calls this "consistent improvement." Why... was he giving up negative yards in the beginning?

We've had writers on the site writing about how bright Danny Davis' future is. Why, I don't know.

Why is Amari Rodgers considered a lock? Do we think he's gonna stick just because he was a 3rd rounder? How'd that work out for Jace Sternberger? The Packers moved on from Sternberger after two years, but his first year he was hurt and played only 6 games. Has Amari shown anything better than Sternberger after his first full year?

Do we really think that 2018 is justification for keeping extra WRs? In hindsight, keeping those guys in 2018 was a HUGE MISTAKE. J’Mon Moore was a complete disaster. He had 2 receptions for 15 yards in his career, he never played a single down in an NFL game outside of Green Bay, and he is now in the USFL. Jake Kumerow and Trevor Davis were, and still are, the lowest of low-level roster players and the very definition of JAGs. Marquez Valdes-Scantling isn't starter level, but he's decent depth. Equanimeous St. Brown certainly ain't a head-turner. Geronimo was on DETROIT'S PRACTICE SQUAD last year and did not register an NFL catch. And we are using this crew as an argument for keeping extra players????

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jannes bjornson's picture

August 07, 2022 at 09:01 pm

You are contradicting the Packer Way of saving face stashing draft day mistakes, and burning a roster spot for a stiff. They should keep six wides, including the three rookies. Still have the PTSD when they passed over McLaurin for Sternberger. They still need a Fullback if they want to win the big game. Dafney should hit the boneyard.

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Coldworld's picture

August 08, 2022 at 08:15 am

Dafney has had a good camp actually. Prior to last year, he might have been our best ST player too. I do not rule him out for that reason.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 07, 2022 at 09:14 pm

Keeping 7 WRs is usually a sign of weakness. It means the team doesn't have 4, or better yet 5, guys they know are NFL caliber. Here, it is complicated by the notion that GB will most likely lose all 3 of their top proven WRs.

If so, GB will have to go out and sign another stop gap WR like Watkins, and probably draft another WR on day one or two in 2023. Lotta time left, but Toure probably can slide onto the PS absent great showings in the preseason games. Winfree as well. Hyman and Davis for sure. Teams can elevate a PS player three times. I don't think keeping 7 is the way to go.

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HarryHodag's picture

August 07, 2022 at 05:50 pm

Amari Rodgers is not a lock to make the team. I'm also wondering if Watson might end up on the 6-week PUP. If that's the case then Rodgers might stick for awhile. Doubs and Toure have too much potential to go to another team, like Dallas, who is really hurting for receivers.

You have to anticipate injuries and carrying 7 receivers at the expense of the safety position, for example, is foolish.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 07, 2022 at 06:43 pm

Harry….in the last 20 years, how many times have we cut a Day 2 pick after one season?

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Coldworld's picture

August 07, 2022 at 07:43 pm

Off the top of my head,
Khyri Thornton comes to mind.
Quinten Rollins was a second rounder, not sure, but I think he lasted 2 years.
Josh Jones was a second. He might have made 2 as well.
Vince Beigel and Carl Bradford were 4ths.
Oren Burks should have been—can I make that argument for Jason Spriggs too?
Sternberger made a couple of years.
Alex Green and Jerel Worthy didn’t last long.

Just from memory since maybe 2012, a lot of 2nd to 4th round early goodbyes and a couple we maybe should have.

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jannes bjornson's picture

August 07, 2022 at 09:06 pm

You had to mention the little shop of horrors......

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 07, 2022 at 09:54 pm

TBF Leatherhead did say in the last 20 years. Otherwise Coldworld could've stopped at Thornton in 2015.

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Coldworld's picture

August 07, 2022 at 11:12 pm

I got back about 10 years decided that was enough bad memories.

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 08, 2022 at 12:46 am

At least there's no Isaiah Wilson on the list. They've had some very bad 1st round picks but not one where pure idiocy got you cut after a year.

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Coldworld's picture

August 08, 2022 at 07:05 pm

Now you have reminded me of watching Ahmed Carroll in boxing gloves. Not exactly as bad or really equivalent, but still grating.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 08, 2022 at 10:34 am

Yes, Thornton. That’s ONE . ONE Day 2 pick we cut after 1 year. You think Amari Rodgers is that bad of a pick. and that the people who scouted and coached this guy just screwed the pooch? I don’t. Stack that against all the really good WRs this organization has taken on Day 2 over20 years and tell me that’s a good bet.

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Coldworld's picture

August 08, 2022 at 07:20 pm

At the moment I think it’s quite possible we screwed the pooch. There are many reasons WRS fail, but a lack of proven athleticism after a year is a rare one for a 3rd or 4th rounder. Yes, he could have been a mistake, just as J’Mon Moore, a 4th and then Gute’s highest WR pick, was.

At this point, in his second year, he’s not obviously better as an athlete, catcher or route runner than a 3rd year UDFA and not as versatile. This roster is much better than some of those I named were on and the competition much harder.

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dobber's picture

August 08, 2022 at 07:12 am

Corey Rodgers and David Clowney as WRs.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 08, 2022 at 10:35 am

Corey was a 4th rounder. I don’t think Clowney was a Day 2 guy.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 08, 2022 at 10:48 am

So the top of your ahead, aside from Thornton, agrees with me

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Coldworld's picture

August 08, 2022 at 07:21 pm

I’m sure someone does. I just don’t know who.

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 07, 2022 at 09:48 pm

Why do you care where a guy was drafted? After the 2nd round the cost to cut them is negligible, forgetting where they were picked is the best thing a GM could do. It's a little strange that you're dead set against keeping 7 WRs but dead set on keeping Rodgers.

If Toure is the better player I certainly hope they keep him over Rodgers. He's more versatile already.

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Coldworld's picture

August 07, 2022 at 11:29 pm

If Rodgers shows up and out plays Toure/Winfree/whomever, that’s great. We will have just got better. That’s what matters.

However, at this point he’s been outplayed by both consistently. That can happen, but the kicker is I cannot see;
1) any comparable versatility, and
2) I also don’t see comparable athleticism, and
3) I don’t see splash plays of the same magnitude or consistency.

Taken together, those are pretty irrefutable indications of less current value and less future upside. Now, I stress that’s based upon what has been shown to date. Rodgers could change all that through breakout play, but at this point his better has been not quite as spectacular or consistent as a UDFA holdover and 2 rookies.

Good GMs (and Gute is) don’t hang on to less potential and less consistent performance if they have other better options. Gute has such options based upon play to date. If they continue to look materially better then they will stay. If they implode, that may change things, as may injury. We can only go on evidence to date.

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HarryHodag's picture

August 08, 2022 at 10:04 am

Don't be "Kiperized". Rodgers hasn't shown squat and is just one of players trying to win a roster spot. If he doesn't show up he shouldn't stick around. The draft position is just speculation on possible performance, not a guarantee.

To your point: the past doesn't always reflect the future. Just because he was drafted in the third round doesn't mean he should stick if he can't produce. That is the kind of thinking that produces bad teams. The Packers have held onto some bust high draft picks just to save face. That's no way to operate.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 07, 2022 at 09:17 pm

Keeping 7 WRs is a sign of weakness. Keeping these 5 safeties when I have trouble identifying the #3 and #4 safeties doesn't seem like a great idea. Actually, Leavitt is the #3 safety even though he can't play defensive snaps.

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Bure9620's picture

August 07, 2022 at 10:41 pm

Agreed. Particularly with tnis offensive scheme. You are telling the rest of the league, "we really don't what we have at WR, but are just gonna keep guys in case"

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Bure9620's picture

August 07, 2022 at 10:41 pm

Agreed. Particularly with tnis offensive scheme. You are telling the rest of the league, "we really don't what we have at WR, but are just gonna keep guys in case"

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Bure9620's picture

August 07, 2022 at 10:41 pm

Agreed. Particularly with tnis offensive scheme. You are telling the rest of the league, "we really don't what we have at WR, but are just gonna keep guys in case"

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Coldworld's picture

August 07, 2022 at 11:50 pm

I would say Scott looks like the 3rd safety at this point.

I’m reading several contributors talking about illogicality in the keeping of 7 receivers or similarly apparently oversized positional groups. I have to say that I do not quite follow.

As I see it the team this year will have a number of key STs and they that may include a returner, gunners, kick/punt rushers etc. it is possible that a number of these may play on O or D regularly, for example Doubs. But most look like depth. Gafford/ Leavitt:Nixon/Dafney at their nominal positions.

If players don’t play much then what their nominal position is shouldn’t matter. That could be WR, though I think it’s likely some mix with ILB/DB. We could just pull out 3 or 4 and just call them “ST” and then other groups would be notionally proportioned. I do not mind 7 WRs or 5 ILB or 5 D if one or two pad the group because they excel on STs. We wanted ST leaders, well that’s the price of them.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 08, 2022 at 04:27 am

Keeping Amari as the 6th WR because he is also your ace punt returner is fine even if he can't play WR. Now he does look a little better athletically and at slot, but I have him as the #4 slot receiver, #9 X receiver and #6/7 Y receiver. However, RB is already yelling at him about fair catching too many. He has had issues with his judgment on fielding punts close to the goal line. He has had a few muffs. I don't think he is the best punt returner on the roster: that might be Doubs. Waiting to see how Doubs looks as to judgment and fumbles: I know he returned punts in college. Amari played 116 ST snaps in 2021. Maybe 40 or 50 as PR. What other units was he on last year?

I don't have a problem with Leavitt as the #5 safety (or even the #4 if GB keeps only 4 safeties). I don't have an issue with Gaines, Vernon Scott, or Shawn Davis as the #5 safety. But I am very uncomfortable with any of these four players as the #3 safety, that is, the first guy up if Savage or Amos misses time.

GB did this last year with Barnes, Burks and Summers as ILB #3, #4, and #5. None of them could play ILB, although Barnes and Burks were merely below average rather than terrible. Having some guys make the roster as pure ST players can be done, as long as they are the last guy on the depth chart at a position. It gets a lot dicier if two or three designated ST guys are at the same position. 751 combined defensive snaps from the trio of Barnes, Burks and Summers. Yikes!

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Coldworld's picture

August 08, 2022 at 08:48 am

I think that you are saying the same except that, hypothetically, when the elite STers are finalized, 2 or 3 happened to be notional Safeties or WRs then that is OK. It’s not necessarily an even distribution between groups.

A 6 person safety group would not worry me if 4,5 and 6 were all key ST pieces and the same would be true if we had 2 WRs who were and kept even 8 notional WRs as a result. The point is in those examples it’s really 3 safeties plus 3 STs or 6 receivers plus 2 STs.

In reality I don’t think that the roster we have is likely to load WR like that. Watson may turn out to be a key STer but he’s going to be there on potential and pick anyway. Doubs will make the team regardless of STs.

At this point I am not aware that any other WR other than Rodgers is potentially viewed as critical to STs and at this point that’s questionable. For that reason I think that as of today we keep 6 and 7 would happen only if 6 forced us to keep them and we decided Rodgers was a must have in ST who was not one of them.

If there is to be a swollen group it could be S. Davis, Leavitt could make that 5 (Scott is looking to be number 3) or CB with Nixon and Gafford possibly being added for ST not CB merit. (In reality that would mean probably mean Ento can tackle and beats out both to the top 5, which is not an outcome I’d put money on. More likely one of those makes it on merit.)

That’s not the same as a roster made up with, say, 6 S or 8 WRs there for merit at that position and without real ST value. That would ordinarily suggest imbalance and a failure to make hard choices for some reason. I don’t think Gute is that kind of GM.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 09, 2022 at 03:59 am

My example is Kabion Ento. Assume for argument's sake that he can tackle and stay healthy. GB needs a CB who can play if something happens to the three starters. With Ento/guy who can play as CB #4, I won't mind carrying two CBs like Nixon and Vaughn who may not be capable of being better than Yiadom.

GB often keeps one or two guys on the 53 who can't do anything: zip on offense/defense and zilch on STs.

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