Cory's Corner: Special Hire For Special Teams

Rich Bisaccia is a win-now hire for Green Bay because he may not be here very long. 

Matt LaFleur didn’t have a choice. The Green Bay Packers’ special teams needed a makeover. 

That unit was an eyesore to watch and it was one of those problem areas where you knew something bad was eventually going to bubble up to the surface and cost this team a game. And like clockwork, it showed its ugly face at the worst possible time in the postseason. 

The Packers will bring aboard former Raiders interim head coach Rich Bisaccia as the team’s special teams coordinator. Green Bay’s special teams has been so bad that Bisaccia will be the Packers third different coordinator in four years. The special teams rankings according to special teams guru Rick Gosselin in the last three years have been ranked 26th, 29th and not surprisingly, dead last at 32 this past season.

The question is, why would Bisaccia want this job? Getting success with Green Bay’s special teams has been comparable to finding water on the sun. Not only that, but Bisaccia led Las Vegas to a 7-5 record and got that team into the playoffs, despite the off-field issues surrounding them with Henry Ruggs III and Jon Gruden. 

The Raiders players really adored him and rightfully so. After what he did to rally those guys and still make that team competitive is nothing short of amazing. I do like the hire. It shows that the Packers are willing to spend a little bit more in order to get a high quality guy. 

I love the hire from Green Bay’s perspective. All along, coach Matt LaFleur said that he wanted to put more emphasis on special teams and a move like this certainly should make everyone feel like that is the case. You’re hiring a proven leader that knows how to navigate heavy adversity and was able to get to the playoffs out of a division that has Patrick Mahomes and Justin Herbert. 

But as excited as I am about this hire, I am also nervous. Remember, Bisaccia interviewed for head coaching jobs and is just a whisper away from having his own head coaching opportunity. If the Packers do an about face and the special teams becomes relevant for the first time in several years, I would expect him to get handed a head job. Which of course is nerve wracking because that means the Packers have to go through the entire process once again of looking for a capable special teams coordinator.

But right now, let’s not worry about that. This hire was about the here and now. It’s about filling an immediate need for a unit that has been overlooked for far too long. I would argue that special teams is overlooked by just about every team in the NFL, but the Packers have had an uncanny ability to overlook it better than anyone else. 

Just like when general manager Brian Gutekunst brought in De’Vondre Campbell last offseason to fix a leaky inside linebacker position, this move is about finally mending a special teams unit that has been taking on water for several years. 

This move tells me the Packers want to win now and it could also forecast how Green Bay wants to navigate through free agency and the draft. 

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Cory Jennerjohn is a graduate from UW-Oshkosh and has been in sports media for over 15 years. He was a co-host on "Clubhouse Live" and has also done various radio and TV work as well. He has written for newspapers, magazines and websites. He currently is a columnist for CHTV and also does various podcasts. He recently earned his Masters degree from the University of Iowa. He can be found on Twitter: @Coryjennerjohn

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NickPerry's picture

February 08, 2022 at 06:39 am

"Rich Bisaccia is a win-now hire for Green Bay because he may not be here very long."

Hmmm...Sorry Cory, but I have to respectfully disagree. This doesn't have to mean it's a "win now hire", if it was REALLY that, it would have been made in in 2019 when McCarthy was fired and MLF TRIED to hire a competent ST coach or at the very least last season when Guye went all in.

This hire is one that HAD to made. Whether it was Bisaccia or any other of the few competent ST coaches who were still available, the Packers ST have been the JOKE of the NFL. I mean the rankings scream that don't they? When they hired Shawn Mennenga who had been at that powerhouse of the SEC...Vanderbilt, and his ST were some of the worse in college football, AND they let Darren Rizzi walk out without signing a contract, Mark Murphy and Russ Ball let us ALL KNOW where ST ranked in importance. Now after totally fucking blowing it, they finally let MLF and Gute hire a competent ST Coach.

You would think they would have learned after 2014 in Seattle, but NO, they (Murphy & Ball) blew a 2nd opportunity at a SB before finally getting out of the damn way. This hire HAD to be made. It has nothing to do with being in "Win Now" mode.

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packerbackerjim's picture

February 08, 2022 at 07:32 am

Agree with your post here except for the Russ Ball hit; as far as I know salaries paid to assistant coaches aren’t capped. I think some of the bottom line in black can more than absorb the cost.

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Coldworld's picture

February 08, 2022 at 07:37 am

Ball has had wider involvement than just the Cap since before TT retired. I see no error in including him in this, indeed he may well have been the prime mover.

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NickPerry's picture

February 08, 2022 at 10:44 am

Agreed CW...I think Ball is much more involved in things than just crunching numbers and managing the cap.

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 08, 2022 at 03:59 pm

He should have been out the door in 2018.

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NickPerry's picture

February 08, 2022 at 10:47 am

You're right, but my grip with Ball is he was part of the problem when it came to Rizzi. It was said they lowballed him and then tried to make it right but it was too late. They should have never let him get out of the building. I think without a doubt had they signed him, the Packers would be in Los Angeles right now preparing to play the Bengals in SB 56.

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mnbadger's picture

February 08, 2022 at 12:28 pm

I agree with the hire, but hiring him now is like a small town that suffers a devastating fire and ONLY THEN buys a fancy new fire truck.
As fans at least we only lost a few $'s on wagers and a few hours of sleep. GPG!

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Guam's picture

February 08, 2022 at 07:43 am

Well said NP! Could not agree more.

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NickPerry's picture

February 08, 2022 at 10:45 am

Thanks Guam!

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Big_Mel_75's picture

February 08, 2022 at 10:17 am

If you don't think they are NOT in "Win Now" mode then why would they go out and get the highest paid ST coordinator? Cause a good ST isn't going to get butts in the seats if Love is in charge. If they were moving on from Rodgers they would have just gotten another really good guy to coach special teams. No you go and get the highest priced ST coach cause you are bringing back the 4x MVP for another chance at the SB. I could be wrong but I don't think I am..

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Coldworld's picture

February 08, 2022 at 11:44 am

Because it’s a glaringly obvious weakness of the team that they have fielded and the other teams openly recognize that. That’s not a good thing for fellow professionals to be thinking if people want careers or respect on retirement. It’s about not looking foolish not about who is our QB.

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Oppy's picture

February 08, 2022 at 06:46 pm

You could put Martin Short in at QB and hire lady Gaga as ST coordinator and Lambeau will be sold out.

Butts in seats is not a problem with a 100 year plus waiting list for season tickets.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

February 09, 2022 at 02:45 am

I am still thinking this angle through. It could be win-now mode.

It could be that GB is moving on from AR and so feels more need to shore up STs, which can be done more cheaply in terms of NFL contracts and by paying for a top coordinator, and that latter part does not count against the cap.

I will read the rest of the comments to see if anyone can persuade me one way or the other.

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

February 08, 2022 at 11:37 am

You didn't address the main point in the article, which is that if this ST coach works out, he will be gone shortly. That indicates a win now mode, not a rebuild that takes a few years. Another "competent" ST coach wouldn't have indicated that same thing, unless they've already been an interim head coach with success and interviewed for other head coach openings.

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TacoTuesday's picture

February 08, 2022 at 06:37 am

Tacos for everyone! YEAH!

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Oppy's picture

February 08, 2022 at 06:47 pm

It's not Farts_after_Wins, but I'll allow it.

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Roadrunner23's picture

February 08, 2022 at 06:55 am

Bissacia is 61 years s old and a lifer at Special Teams, he did a nice job as Interim coach for LV but I doubt he is a hot HC prospect.
I’m glad GB hired a proven veteran coach to lead special teams and I’m sure he can get things turned around.
He’s not going anywhere anytime soon.

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HawkPacker's picture

February 08, 2022 at 07:27 am

even if he is gone after 2 seasons, hopefully they will have the proper assistant coach in place to step up and take over without missing a beat.

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dobber's picture

February 08, 2022 at 07:32 am

I wonder if anyone said this after Shawn Mennenga was hired...?

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HawkPacker's picture

February 08, 2022 at 08:29 am

dobber, apparently only in lafleur's mind.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

February 09, 2022 at 02:46 am

LOL. You owe me a keyboard.

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Big_Mel_75's picture

February 08, 2022 at 10:18 am

Nope

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SanLobo's picture

February 08, 2022 at 07:24 am

“Matt LaFleur didn’t have a choice.” As I said a few days ago, I don’t know who is the final decision authority on hiring/firing coaches. Based on history, it is not Matt LaFleur. If it was, Rizzi would have been the ST coach long ago.
I’m glad the Decision Authority, whoever it is, has agreed to this hire as I believe it is right for the team. Belated, but the right thing to do.

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HawkPacker's picture

February 08, 2022 at 07:28 am

can you imagine where we would be right now if we would have hired rizzi?

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Guam's picture

February 08, 2022 at 07:41 am

Maybe playing the Bengals in the Super Bowl....??

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Michael Nault's picture

February 08, 2022 at 10:12 am

The same place. Rodgers had a hand in That loss and I think that he should be taking at least 80 or 90% of the blame screw Rogers

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HarryHodag's picture

February 08, 2022 at 08:17 am

Matt LF makes the staff hiring decisions. No head coach in his right mind would let the front office do that.

Thus, the blame for special teams falls on Mike McCarthy, Matt LF, Ted Thompson and Gute for blowing it off.

All it has done is cost the Packers a chance at the Super Bowl plain and simple.

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SanLobo's picture

February 08, 2022 at 09:03 am

Matt LaFleur wanted Rizzi, but reportedly, the Front Office was unwilling to pay the price. So yes, the Front Office is de facto making staff hiring decisions. And it was probably a clear message to then new HC LaFleur that he was not to bring recommendations for an expensive ST coach again. Thus Minnenga and Drayton.
I’m hoping LaFleur went back to the Front Office this year and raised hell about bringing in a quality ST coach, hence this hiring effort.

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BruceC1960's picture

February 08, 2022 at 07:38 pm

Wasn’t there also a story that Rizzi’s family wanted no part of Green Bay?

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BruceC1960's picture

February 08, 2022 at 07:50 pm

Wasn’t there also a story that Rizzi’s family wanted no part of Green Bay?

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Michael Nault's picture

February 08, 2022 at 10:14 am

In Rogers didn’t have a hand in that ? Bull puckek

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dblbogey's picture

February 08, 2022 at 11:00 am

It's really hard to spell Rodgers correctly. Must be a BIG Packers fan.

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

February 08, 2022 at 11:39 am

It's probably on purpose. The hate for #12 is strong around these parts, b/c he broke so many hearts by playing his worst game of the season at the worst time. A couple of years in a row.

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egbertsouse's picture

February 08, 2022 at 07:29 am

I will not get excited about this hire until the Packers officially announce it. If history is any indication, Russ Ball can still find a way to screw this up.

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dobber's picture

February 08, 2022 at 07:41 am

Russ Ball doesn't operate with impunity. He's still given parameters by the higher-ups.

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Coldworld's picture

February 08, 2022 at 09:21 am

Murphy loves Ball. There’s no doubt that Ball has an inordinate amount of influence on him, the only “higher up”. It’s well established now that Murphy was grooming Ball as GM during TTs twilight years and then insisted on retaining him and ensuring that he reported only to Murphy not the GM. Impunity? No, but closer to it than the norm probably.

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GA-Packer's picture

February 08, 2022 at 07:36 am

Has anyone thought just maybe the players on special teams are just awful? Several coaches has tried and no success.

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HarryHodag's picture

February 08, 2022 at 08:20 am

It's not the same players year to year. What it is is a SYSTEM that blows off special teams and it cost them the Super Bowl this year. People talk about how hard it is on special teams. Compared to the offensive and defensive plans, there's relatively little to remember. It's just execution.

Never forget the two field goals missed by Crosby possibly cost them the Kansas City game as it was overtime after that. There have been many, many other gaffs.

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PeteK's picture

February 08, 2022 at 09:24 am

Lancaster and Black the modern version of Laurel & Hardy.

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dobber's picture

February 08, 2022 at 07:38 am

"The Raiders players really adored him and rightfully so."

By all accounts, he steps into that "players' favorite" role being vacated by Hackett. If the personalities mesh, I think it's a real positive to have guys who have run a team on your staff. Hopefully they can finish out the specifics and get him in place.

This signals that the team must have reassured him that they would give him pieces to work with. The construction of the game day roster has been a head-scratcher for a couple years, keeping guys like Hanson and (last year) Nijman active every week, but never letting them see the field took up active roster spots from guys who could be STs contributors but didn't figure into the offensive/defensive depth chart in a meaningful way.

If not, then it won't matter who is coaching the STs, and Bisaccia will just end up another coaching scapegoat for poor play. I think he's got more riding on this job than just improving the STs.

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Guam's picture

February 08, 2022 at 07:57 am

I really hope your third paragraph ("This signals....") is on target Dobber because the article by Bruce Irons clearly demonstrates that the Packers from top to bottom do not value special teams. From drafting to practice time to game day rosters, there are going to have to be changes made if Bisaccia is going to be successful. I also hope Bisaccia discussed this with the Packers and got their support before he accepted their offer.

It does gall me that the Packers went "all-in" this season except for special teams and it cost them a shot at the Super Bowl. The cap will prevent them from being "all-in" next year and now they decide to fix the special teams........sheesh!

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dobber's picture

February 08, 2022 at 08:07 am

"The cap will prevent them from being "all-in" next year and now they decide to fix the special teams........sheesh!"

If they fix STs, it just gives us more time to complain about QB play.... ;)

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Guam's picture

February 08, 2022 at 08:23 am

I have the distinct feeling there will be plenty of complaining regardless of who plays quarterback for the Packers next year. I will just be happy if I am not cringing every time the opposing team punts or kicks-off.

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PeteK's picture

February 08, 2022 at 09:31 am

They had to make Hanson active this season because he was the backup center.

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dobber's picture

February 08, 2022 at 10:06 am

Even before Myers got hurt, there were weeks with an active but not participating Hanson. Until Jenkins got hurt, I think it was debatable whether Jenkins or Hanson was the backup C.

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Coldworld's picture

February 08, 2022 at 11:46 am

Hanson in fact played his snaps at guard I believe.

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Coldworld's picture

February 08, 2022 at 11:01 am

Hiring should be a two way process with a candidate that is in demand. He should be going in and not just demanding a salary but the other things that he feels are needed to achieve success. If a candidate isn’t asking for those types of things, it should be a red flag.

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Coldworld's picture

February 08, 2022 at 07:57 am

I disagree with your perspective. When a business function is clearly underperforming and yet essential, you bring in external perspective and experience from outside charged with changing expectations and methods.

This appointment is (or should be) all about resetting the approach within ST and adding a person with the credibility to help the wider organization better identify and understand ST priorities and needs.

The role here is to turn. STs around, inculcate practices, procedures and understanding and a team that is steeped in them and capable of taking the reigns and replacing the person who leads that implementation.

Better performance on the field should be only a partial objective. The new hire should be primarily intended to change the culture and approach of the organization and recruit and develop talent to continue it going forward after he leaves. That is why the task merits higher pay. It’s more than just being an STC in the ordinary sense.

This is not a win now appointment, it is an acceptance that the Packers need help to revitalize for the future and that they need experience, ability and knowledge to do so to return to adequacy now and to put in place the resources and organizational perspectives to maintain and develop that going forward.

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croatpackfan's picture

February 08, 2022 at 08:50 am

Exactly. There is no serious problem you can fix easily. Low ST presentation is not only on Drayton, all involved in constructing and practicing ST should be almost equally blamed.

First of all, we were complaining about punter, than about holder, than about LS, than about covering unit, gunners, than about returner(s) - kick and punt returners - than about coaches, than about FO etc, etc... When you look at number of positions fans were complaining about it is clear that the mistake is only one - approach to ST and estimation of the ST value for the team. Because, as in offensive and defensive part of the game, there is no hero alone. Everybody can be special if others do their job properly. Yes, from time to time some players will performed on very high level, that they will be stopped by adaptation to scheme and preforming of that player. There is the need for group to find another way to accept that adaptation and to change the focus on other player, group of players or scheme.

So, complete FO (+MM) and coaching staff share the blame for under valuating ST impact on the game. If they did not look at ST like they did, changes would come much sooner than at the present time...

Coldword, you are on the spot with this comment.

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SanLobo's picture

February 08, 2022 at 08:54 am

I 100% agree with you CW. This is about making a purposeful, systemic and lasting change. Very glad to see the team taking this seriously.

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Cheesey51's picture

February 08, 2022 at 08:13 pm

I agree. I'd want Rich to stick around and develop the ST culture. Which, considering, the lack of one, could be a while. I do not know how one goes about establishing a culture from scratch in a billion dollar business but I'd want, a ST coordinator to1). bring some of his assistant coaches along. 2). establish a criteria/agenda for a successful ST program which should include having a say on ST personnel

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Handsback's picture

February 08, 2022 at 07:57 am

Agree with Hawkpacker in that they have found a guy that will improve the ST aspect and after a few years you’ll have the blueprint on how to do it. They can still screw it up by not listening or not having the right personnel but he has a chance to change the culture around ST performance.

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PearlyBakerBest's picture

February 08, 2022 at 08:30 am

To me, this signals that Rodgers is going to be back as well as most of the rest of the gang. Would Bissacia come to Green Bay if they were going to tear it down and he'd be part of a rebuild?

Packers have projected $118m in cap space in '23 and $175m in '24. Doesn't seem like the future cap doom and gloom I've read from a lot of posts here. There's an article from zonecoverage about how teams use void years to spread out cap hits. I'm no cap guru but it's an interesting read.

The question is will keeping the band together matter if Rodgers goes late '90's Trey Anastasio?

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Coldworld's picture

February 08, 2022 at 09:33 am

I think that this has nothing to do with Rodgers one way or the other. This is all about the team finally facing up to the fact that it became a laughing stock for its ST performance, that it very obviously was a main cause of failing in the last dance and that a repeat of the farce with another cheap hire might get people canned. With or without Rodgers, this is a reflection of the fact that they very publicly (league and the rest of us) fell into a pit of their own construction.

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PearlyBakerBest's picture

February 08, 2022 at 12:41 pm

To you and Guam: Agreed about the hire from an organizational standpoint. But why would RB come to Green Bay if it was going to be a rebuild? Why try to turn the special teams around from the ground floor at age 61 and go to the cold when he's been a warm weather coach for 40 years? When I told Jeannie where I was from she just about passed out laughing. Surely there are better situations for him to do the same thing much closer to his permanent home. Maybe its because they are paying kings ransom for him to do it but, from what I know about him, he wants another Super Bowl. Not happening without Rodgers, IMO. To Guam: He's got a target on his back either way.

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Coldworld's picture

February 08, 2022 at 01:06 pm

If one is a ST coach, what bigger challenge is there? If he succeeds it’s going to be very obvious around the league and suggest that he brought wider value too.

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PearlyBakerBest's picture

February 08, 2022 at 01:19 pm

He's 61 and already credentialed. Everyone already knows the value he brings. He doesn't have anything to prove as a ST coach. I think he's here to win a Super Bowl and it's because they told him Rodgers will be back.

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Coldworld's picture

February 08, 2022 at 02:26 pm

He wants to be a HC, I’d say this his golden opportunity to take on one of the biggest and most visible coordinator level challenges that a non HC can attempt.

We can agree to disagree about the relevance to Rodgers. Personally I think it was badly needed whomever will be QB. In addition to being an embarrassment to the off field leaders that they won’t want to see continue, I’d argue a lesser QB will need more help from ST improvement in season, not less.

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PearlyBakerBest's picture

February 08, 2022 at 03:20 pm

I think his shot to be a head coach was this hiring cycle. I don't see it happening just by turning the worst ST unit around. Even if he gets it to #1. Don't get me wrong, I agree it was badly needed. I don't know the details of the contract, but if they were going to rebuild would they have to get the guy who was going to get paid the highest? Just arguing my point back. I appreciate the back and forth of both you and Guam. Always have enjoyed your takes.

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Guam's picture

February 08, 2022 at 01:30 pm

PBB: If the Packers go into full rebuild mode (i.e. trade Rodgers), I don't think special teams will have a bull's eye on their backs. There will be plenty of other more prominent targets for fans to shoot at.....:)

Professionally, ground floor rebuilds are usually one of the most fun and most satisfying things a seasoned executive can do. If Bisaccia is too tired or not interested enough at 61 to want to do a rebuild, he also will be too tired or not interested enough to turnaround the Packer special teams in a "Last Dance" scenario. Professional challenge is fun and exciting and I would want a guy that wants a challenge, not someone who is watching the clock until he can retire.

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PearlyBakerBest's picture

February 08, 2022 at 03:10 pm

He'll have a bullseye just because of the hire. It seems he is already going to be doing a ground up rebuild. Just to be clear, at no time did I suggest that because he is 61 he was too tired or not interested enough to do the job. I personally don't think he takes a job like this (being in the twilight of his career) unless there is a chance to win a Super Bowl.

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Guam's picture

February 08, 2022 at 10:01 am

I can't speak for Bisaccia, but if it were me, I would rather come in on the ground floor of a rebuild than for a "Last, Last Dance". It is going to be hard to fix special teams in one year given the number of systemic issues that Bruce Irons identified. I would rather know I have a couple of years of grace period to get the fix done than one year with a target on special team's back.

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Coldworld's picture

February 08, 2022 at 11:04 am

He’s not going to be judged on whether we win the Super Bowl or even make the playoffs. It will be in what he can do to reshape ST performance and how the team approaches ST from a roster and game day actives perspective.

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Guam's picture

February 08, 2022 at 01:16 pm

He won't be judged by the Packer Front Office on whether or not they win a SB, but if they bring back Rodgers for another "Last Dance", do you really think most fans won't place a bull's eye on special teams?

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Coldworld's picture

February 08, 2022 at 02:30 pm

If the STs don’t improve he’s going to be in perdition from either perspective. The perspective he likely cares about most is that of league personnel. Bring back Rodgers and a weaker roster and I think this will be much folks are worried about, not solely STs.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

February 09, 2022 at 03:06 am

GB does have $118M in space for 2023 per OTC. And just 17 players under contract.

Just 6 guys on defense:

DL: Clark, Slaton. (Great player, and I hope he is).
LB: Garvin, Jean-Charles, McDuffie.
DB: Stokes, Vernon Scott (good player and Inc.).

Good luck with that.

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PearlyBakerBest's picture

February 09, 2022 at 06:35 am

Are you suggesting they are not going to touch any of the $175m of cap space in ‘24?

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Since'61's picture

February 08, 2022 at 09:29 am

Interesting aspects to his hire if it becomes final. On the surface it appears to be an appropriate effort, finally, to address our STs.

It could also signal that the band, including Rodgers, is returning for another all in run in 2022 and/or beyond.

In the worst case scenario it could mean we have interim
and/or future HC if MLF can’t get it done in the next year or 2. MLF has a 5 year deal if I remember correctly.

Since we’re not sure who is actually making this hire we can’t assume to know their motivation or longer term thinking beyond what it hopefully might mean for our STs.
Thanks, Since ‘61

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croatpackfan's picture

February 08, 2022 at 10:19 am

Thanks for the article Cory. After all it gives us some short period of rest ourselves from heating discussions about Diva.

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ricky's picture

February 08, 2022 at 11:57 am

Now we'll be able to find out whether it's the coach or the players who are the problem. Let's face it, even if Bissacia just makes the ST's average, that would be a huge improvement. But the team now has to help him out by providing him with some players that can perform at a higher level. But as far as starters being on ST's? The NFL just issued a report saying that most injuries, especially knee injuries, are most likely to happen during punts and kickoffs. So, it seems likely that option is off the table.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

February 08, 2022 at 12:09 pm

Finally, a well qualified and successful STs coach. Although I do wonder if his contract is conditional - that it can be cancelled - if he is offered a HC, OC or DC position during the off-season? Hopefully, we will never know.

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Difer's picture

February 08, 2022 at 12:53 pm

A day late and a dollar short.

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canadapacker's picture

February 08, 2022 at 01:53 pm

Just love the rumors and the news media and click bait reporters. AR buys a piece of property in Memphis - articles. Shaleen owns a house in Denver - articles. AR compliments Tomlin - Pittsburgh is his destination - articles. Over and over. Now we hire a top notch Special Teams coach - Rich - now he is staying.

Special teams have been costing us games forever - remember the blown blocking/ coverage on the onside kick in the Seattle playoff game- easy win turns into a loss. Remember the return fumble by MVS against Indie last year - loss. Remember the fumble by Montgomery against the Rams that cost us the chance to win the game with a field goal.

It is going to be hard fix the culture- it is going to be a long process - It is also going to be hard to erase these loses from AR's legacy.

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Leatherhead's picture

February 08, 2022 at 01:54 pm

I don’t think the coaches, or the players, are the problem. IMO, it’s about not letting special teams cost you games, and you do that by minimizing the opportunities for that to happen. Thus, the Leatherhead Rules that I repeatedly refer to.

Never return kicks you don’t have to. Never return punts. Punt out of bounds. Etc. Don’t put the game in the hands of a bunch of UDFA 23 year olds.

Think about this: On the blocked punt that put us behind, we could have just taken a safety and given up two points instead of 7. The difference. And if we’d done that, would we be talking about how smart MLF is?

Neither. We’d be talking about Cincinnati.

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croatpackfan's picture

February 08, 2022 at 03:15 pm

And than, when you give safety, you would need to punt back to opponent. So, you can not avoid punt! Your strategy has a little to big flaw.

In both cases you have to punt!

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michael562's picture

February 08, 2022 at 09:49 pm

But in the second case, no one is rushing the punter...

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 08, 2022 at 04:31 pm

I guess Deebo should have taken a knee instead of bring the 2nd half kickoff back to MID-FIELD to set up the 49rs in choi field position.

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canadapacker's picture

February 08, 2022 at 07:53 pm

Every team is going to take it out no matter how deep against the Packers. We need to change that tune. We need to change it to fair catch every punt, Take a knee if the ball is in the endzone. Every single team took it out even 7 or 8 yards deep because of how bad those coverages were.

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Leatherhead's picture

February 09, 2022 at 08:50 am

A touchback starts you at the 25, so a return to the 50 is a +25. Deebo’s return made the difference, didn’t it?

Oh wait..,, it didnt?

You cling to this fantasy of winning games with great special teams play. I cling to the belief that you should do what you can to not lose the game on special teams.

So let’s change the coach, again, and change the players. Let’s draft a super speedy return guy. Because good kick returns correlate so strongly with winning.(actually, they don’t).

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BirdDogUni's picture

February 08, 2022 at 05:29 pm

Serious question: Why, on almost every good comment is there always 4 thumbs down? Is there like 4 trolls that just go around Thumbs Down on every good comment or what?

Just curious.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

February 09, 2022 at 03:08 am

BDU, meet LH.

Leatherhead has his own groupie section, or rather, his own anti-groupie section.

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Leatherhead's picture

February 09, 2022 at 08:54 am

Because they are chickenshits who prefer an anonymous thumbs down to presenting a coherent argument with their name on it.

The downvote is a chickenshit feature that does nothing to encourage or advance discussion. Al should disable it.

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13TimeChamps's picture

February 09, 2022 at 11:22 am

Maybe it's because people get tired of his "I'm the smartest guy in the room and anyone who disagrees with me is an idiot" routine.

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Leatherhead's picture

February 09, 2022 at 03:15 pm

Always a possibility. As is Projection.

There’s lots of guys on this site who are smarter than me. Not you, of course. And there’s plenty of people I disagree with that I’ve never implied were idiots. But again, that doesn’t include you.

Go ahead and have the last word now. I know it’s part of your pathology and you can’t help yourself.

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LeotisHarris's picture

February 08, 2022 at 04:04 pm

A couple, maybe three, thoughts. It's okay to hire people who may do very well at their job and later move on to a better opportunity. They could even advance within the same organization.

This ST hire would be the first time I can recall when the Packers didn't move the Phy. Ed. Teacher into the Guidance Counselor position just because he fit in.

When the Rizzi non-hire went down, I remember reading Mrs. Rizzi had more to do with Darren not taking the Green Bay job than ol' Low Ball did. Miami to Green Bay was a jump she didn't care to make, especially with Shopko having just gone belly up and bowling leagues faltering.

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RedRight49's picture

February 08, 2022 at 06:31 pm

The hiring of Rich Bisaccia has been announced by the Packers.

Bisaccia brings several distinct values to the Packers organization:

As an experienced Special Teams coach, RB should be able to teach proven, sound, fundamental ST techniques and schemes to his core players, as well as to the various guys who may fill in on ST from week to week;

When the ST players are “ in his room “ prepping for their next game, they should be confident in his schemes and instructions as he is a proven, successful ST coach;

And as an experienced Special Teams Coach, RB will likely require minimum time and oversight from MLF in preparation for each game, allowing MLF to spend more of his time with his numerous new coaching hires and any other new schemes, etc.

Special Teams will improve this upcoming season and become an asset, not a liability, to the Packers.

This is a great hire by the Green Bay Packers!

GPG

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stinkycheesehead's picture

February 09, 2022 at 08:43 am

well when our st are rated 32,the only place we can go is UP!!!

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PatrickGB's picture

February 09, 2022 at 09:45 am

New coach but mostly the same players. My hope is that the new guy has some input on who is on the roster.

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