Cory's Corner: Packers Don't Need To Think QB Yet

 
The Packers need to add an inside linebacker, a defensive tackle, a tight end and a wide receiver in the offseason. 
 
Apparently Packers general manager Brian Gutekunst thinks I'm forgetting one position. 
 
"I was raised by Ron Wolf and Ted Thompson," Gutekunst said on Friday. "If there's a quarterback we think can play, that's a starter in the National Football League, we'll never pass that up."
 
The reason that's intriguing is because Aaron Rodgers turns 37 next December. He has said that he doesn't operate in windows of time, but he has to start thinking about contingency plans for the future Hall of Famer. 
 
Rodgers won't be losing the QB1 job anytime soon because of production. In his first year in Matt LaFleur's system, Rodgers threw for 4,002 yards with 26 touchdowns and 4 picks. He had five games with a passer rating over 100. 
 
"But I'm really glad 12 is back there again," Gutekunst said. "Really excited to see what he can do in year two."
 
The question is, will Gutekunst take the Packers' next franchise quarterback or does he go with a band-aid approach? NFL.com's Daniel Jeremiah has four quarterbacks going in the top 14 of the 2020 NFL Draft, which would make Georgia's Jake Fromm or Oklahoma's Jalen Hurts available to the Packers at 30. 
 
I don't think the Packers need to worry about quarterback at all. At least not the heir apparent. Not yet. Rodgers looked fantastic at times this season, but then he also looked uncomfortable and inconsistent. 
 
Does Rodgers have enough weapons? Well, that's a tough one to answer. Rodgers has a featured back that had 19 total touchdowns and a top 3 receiver. Many bark about the wide receivers and how nobody can get open, but Rodgers must start trusting his young guys to make plays. If anything, the Packers need a dynamic tight end to open up the middle of the field, which would also open up the outside. 
 
I get the argument to compile as many talented quarterbacks as possible. Quarterback is the most important position in all of sports. If the Packers do take a quarterback in the first or second round, will that put a chip on Rodgers' shoulder or will it cause him to become upset? 
 
At this point, I don't think it's worth the trouble. Rodgers has at least three more productive years left. If everything works out with Rodgers' health, the Packers should wait two years to grab a quarterback like USC's Kedon Slovis or Auburn's Bo Nix. 
 
I like the fact that Gutekunst is willing to take a player anytime. However, it's too early to grab one in the first and second round. This team made the NFC Championship Game. This team must continue to climb.  

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Cory Jennerjohn is a graduate from UW-Oshkosh and has been in sports media for over 15 years. He was a co-host on "Clubhouse Live" and has also done various radio and TV work as well. He has written for newspapers, magazines and websites. He currently is a columnist for CHTV and also does various podcasts. He recently earned his Masters degree from the University of Iowa. He can be found on Twitter: @Coryjennerjohn

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

January 25, 2020 at 07:02 am

This seems like a moot point. AR has $25M to $30M in negative cap savings for 2020. GB can't afford to trade AR and play a rookie QB in 2020. The team literally would have to cut good players to make room for the dead money hit. That means the rookie QB would sit in 2020. Perhaps that's a good thing, but it cuts across the grain of getting decent QB play while the CB is still on a rookie deal. So the hypothetical rookie QB would play beginning in 2021. Of course, there is a chance of no OTAs and no training camp in 2021 if the new CBA isn't worked out quite yet. So it is quite possible to have the rookie penciled in as the starter in 2021 without having any offseason, OTAs or TC going into the season.

GB just restructured AR's contract to make it harder to trade/release AR in 2020 and beyond. Perhaps Gute will draft a QB in round one if the right one falls to #30. It looks to me like only two QBs have a first-round grade, with perhaps a third QB having a round 1/2 grade, but I am no draftnik.

AR had a first round grade. He was under serious consideration to get picked number one overall. The QB that GB might consider at #30 probably won't have a first round grade, certainly won't be in consideration to go #1, or even number 15. Teams will start thinking about QB X well into the twenties. It isn't the same scenario at all. Brett Favre was picked in the 2nd, and Wolf shipped a first for him. So, that would be the or at least one of several counter-examples to my line of thinking.

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Guam's picture

January 25, 2020 at 08:05 am

Clearly AR is our quarterback for 2020 and 2021. I can't see Gute picking a marginal talent like Fromm or Hurts (both have accuracy issues) just to pick a QB, but if the impossible should happen and someone like Tua falls to the Pack at #30, take him. You rarely get shots at a franchise QB and you have to take them if the opportunity arises.

I remember all the heat TT took for selecting Rodgers when we needed more weapons for Favre in a last ditch effort to get back to the Super Bowl in the twilight of Favre's career (sound familiar?). In retrospect that may have been TT's single best moment and no Packer fan in their right mind would want a do over.

I doubt lightning will strike twice, but if it does, I trust Gute will make the right choice.

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Leatherhead's picture

January 25, 2020 at 08:31 am

Get the QB if he’s available and have him sit for two years IF Rodgers is healthy. It’s impossible to know which QBs will have a first/early 2nd grade by the until after the combine and pro days.

Most important position on the field. I spend hundreds of dollars every month insuring my car and my house. I hope I never need it, but stuff happens and that’s why you get insurance. It is insane to allow a half-billion dollar organization to depend on the health of one old QB.

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January 25, 2020 at 09:41 am

Whatever happens, the Packers need to have a better QB backing up ARod going forward. I don't care if it's a developing youngster, or a vet who has shown an ability to play well in stretches. QB is the currency of the realm. Teddy B. saved the Saints' bacon by winning every start while Brees was hurt. I can't say I trust Tim Boyle (or anyone like him) to do the same. The Packers' recent investments show they're in "win now" mode. Having no backup plan to #12 is an easy way to make sure you derail a good season.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

January 26, 2020 at 03:40 am

I was looking at RaisingZona.com earlier. The article suggested that Brett Hundley was one of the five "must re-signs" for the Cardinals.

I had to check. It appears that Hundley played 32 snaps in Arizona's 27-13 win over Seattle in week 16. He went 4 for 9 for 49 yards, No TDs/INTs, and rushed 6 times for 35 yards. Passer rating of 61.8.

Maybe it is in the eye of the beholder. To be honest, I don't really remember how Boyle looked, just that Kizer was only marginally better. Lot of former starting QBs figure to be on the move this offseason.

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tincada's picture

January 25, 2020 at 09:58 am

Who's that guy ....uh umm Tayson Hill? Oh yeah the Pack cut him in ...oh in 2017. You had your chance and blew it.

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CAG123's picture

January 25, 2020 at 12:27 pm

Why are people so obsessed with Taysom Hill because he can run the wildcat and do a few trick plays? Does anyone honestly believe MM would have used him the same way Payton has because I don't. Ask yourself if he really was that guy why was Teddy filling in for Brees and not Hill? I don't know but Im pretty sure his 58 completion percentage has something to do with it. The guy has 9 total TDs.....and not one came through the air. He's an athlete that's good in spurts not a QB that's reliable over 60 minutes. Sean Payton is smart enough to use Hill in creative ways he aint smart enough to fool every other GM into thinking he's a franchise QB because nobody has attempted to trade for him.

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 25, 2020 at 12:56 pm

He fits the role of H-back. What is he 29-30 ?

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CAG123's picture

January 25, 2020 at 02:12 pm

oh yeah he can definitely do that among other things he was a 4.4 guy if I remember but this idea of him being a competent QB in this league is laughable.

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The_Justicar's picture

January 25, 2020 at 01:02 pm

Post of he year. Thanks.

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HankScorpio's picture

January 25, 2020 at 10:44 am

"It looks to me like only two QBs have a first-round grade, with perhaps a third QB having a round 1/2 grade, but I am no draftnik."

3 solid round 1 grades--Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert and Tua Tagovailoa.

Jordan Love is that 1/2 round guy. Jacob Eason and Jake Fromm are round 2 guys

That seems like the consensus of the Draft Industrial Complex at this point in the process from what I've read.

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Leatherhead's picture

January 25, 2020 at 12:12 pm

I think we’ll have a better idea after the Combine and after the ProDays. Way too early to prognosticate who might be there at our pick.

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 25, 2020 at 01:04 pm

Cannot see the Pack making a QB selection before round four. Last year was the time to get a mid-round talent like Stidhem or Grier.
Once again, I preach about bagging a Veteran QB to backup. A guy like Case Keenum who is not expensive and can get you WINs in the event Rodgers was put out of action. This draft had two guys that fit the #one model in Burrow and Herbert. Two others may go on the second round? The need is a WR with speed and OT in the first two rounds. An ILB or CB in round three. Free agency should get them an ILB and DE. Mid-round picks have to be hits for Gutedkunst.

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stockholder's picture

January 25, 2020 at 07:09 am

Back Up- Jalen Hurts Rd. 4/5.

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CAG123's picture

January 25, 2020 at 11:21 am

Jalen Hurts is not going to last until the 4th or 5th.

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Rossonero's picture

January 25, 2020 at 07:09 am

This is starting to feel a lot like 2005. Favre was 35 back then and going to turn 36 in October going into that season.

Similar to 2005, the reason why Rodgers fell so far was because most teams already had a QB. While that's not exactly how it is now, I can still see a QB of decent caliber fall to the Packers even after several others are taken.

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NickPerry's picture

January 25, 2020 at 07:20 am

Other than a brand new scheme I still believe Rodgers BIGGEST problem was last of receiving talent in 2019. Now I'm not saying Rodgers doesn't have faults, but ONE WR in todays NFL just isn't enough. Rodgers needs more weapons...Plain and simple.

I the small amount of research I've been able to do I'm already developing a crush on a WR from Colorado, Laviska Shenault. In the little I've read they used this kid EVERYWHERE, even at RB. Read about this kid on Draftnet.com and you'll see why I have the crush. He catches the ball well, can play outside or in the slot. He's excellent after the catch and rarely is brought down with the first hit. He's one of those players you design a play for with only him in mind. I'm sure others have favorites but this is mine, at least one who the Packers may be able to draft.

The Packers have a QB, a damn good one who is MORE than good enough to win a few more SB's. I can't remember an offseason I was more excited about. I can't wait until the end of April. Get Rodgers more toy's to play with AND more for MLF to design with and this offense will really take off in 2020.

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Packers0808's picture

January 25, 2020 at 08:16 am

The end you are talking about sounds a bit Tasom Hill type.

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stockholder's picture

January 25, 2020 at 10:19 am

Mine is Higgins. Shenault will have to be used like Cobb. Try Draft Network draft simulator for fun.

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January 25, 2020 at 10:28 am

Hey Stockholder...I like Higgens too but this kid from Colorado looks like something. He's 6'2 and 225 Lbs. Although he's not as big as Higgens he's not a shrimp either which I like.

I'm looking forward to the combine and draft and what you have to say. One thing I've noticed about you is you really know these kids coming out and 9 times out of 10 are pretty right on with your comments on these prospects.

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stockholder's picture

January 25, 2020 at 12:27 pm

Keep your eye on Jalen Reagor. Why? Speed.4.35 / Punt returner. He's the perfect guy to go opposite of Adams. Higgins is same side as Adams. Very Talented Wrs this year. The Colorado kid has tools. Wr rd 1 for me.

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 25, 2020 at 01:16 pm

Like Reagor as a dynamic guy for the slot/jet sweep mode. Falling on charts due to route running. Shenault is a strong guy, maybe a WCO receiver, but not as fast. Higgins is a lanky guy 6-4,200# with limited route tree. My choice is Jefferson out of LSU, but Gutedkunst will have to Move Up to get him.

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stockholder's picture

January 25, 2020 at 02:19 pm

I've seen just the opposite. Jefferson is 45.5 with a great route tree.( Outside WR.) Is Falling. Like Higgins he isn't going to be drafted to back up Adams. But Higgins is the game changer. And if you take a wr rd1, he better be that game changer. Trading up for average doesn't work. My biggest thing is what happens in 2 yrs. with Rodgers. Fix the WRs while they can.

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HankScorpio's picture

January 25, 2020 at 10:52 am

What do people think about KJ Hamler? He's short, which would limit him. That scares me off. But he's rated right on up there in the class. So I wonder if I shouldn't be scared off.

My draft crush is Jalon Raegor. TDN simulator is sometimes nice enough to have him there in round 2 after Patrick Queen at 30. Brandon Auyik is the fall back. Usually one of the two is available at 62 and I walk away happy.

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TheKanataThrilla's picture

January 25, 2020 at 11:20 am

Hamler is the guy I like as I am hoping we wait until the second round to draft a WR. Hoping ILB in first round or RT if we don't end up re-signing Bulaga. I like a small quick guy to add to our mix. I also am a fan of Raegor, but don't think he will be there Round 2.

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January 25, 2020 at 11:41 am

The WR I like very much is Justin Jefferson. Caught 111, was in a pro-ready offense and won’t need much beyond camp to get up to speed with the playbook. On the other side of the ball, I like his teammate Queen, fast and sheds blocks.

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stockholder's picture

January 25, 2020 at 12:48 pm

Hamler is a Kick off Returner. YAC!! Their going to have to put him in motion. I doubt they draft him. Auyik reminds me of St. Brown. I Like Jefferson more. 4.55 ?

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Lare's picture

January 25, 2020 at 07:28 am

I think most quarterback prospects probably have the physical ability to be successful, after seeing the likes of Brett Hundley and DeShone Kizer come through here, the difference in starting success probably ends up being more what's between their ears than what's below them.

IMO, if the Packers think that one of the QB prospects can be special, they should get him.

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LeotisHarris's picture

January 25, 2020 at 08:54 pm

"after seeing the likes of Brett Hundley and DeShone Kizer come through here, the difference in starting success probably ends up being more what's between their ears than what's below them."

Any thoughts on the mental capacity of the likes of Mark Brunell, Ty Detmer, Kurt Warner, Doug Pederson, Matt Flynn and Joe Callahan? They, too, came through Green Bay. IMO, a kid who can succeed at QB at Notre Dame or UCLA probably has more between his ears than you do, little buddy.

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Turophile's picture

January 25, 2020 at 07:41 am

Getting a new (eventual) starter-level QB is down almost entirely down to finding a guy you like. That trumps the year you get him, or the pick you use for him. Finding a guy you believe can be the next starting QB beats everything. You don't want to wait so long that you are forced to draft a QB you don't like much.

Now, because you are not likely to get a top 5 pick anytime soon (or afford to trade way up high), you will be looking at guys from mid round one downwards. That guy may not exist this year.............or next year, but the important thing is to find a guy you like and go get him, in whichever year he is available.

So, my assertion is that you DO need to look for a QB from now onwards, because we don't know which year will turn up that diamond in the rough who (we hope) can eventually become the next Packers starting QB. I'd much rather waste a cheap rookie year (or even 2) with a draftee sitting behind Rodgers, than lose a good prospect because he was available a year or so early.

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blacke00's picture

January 25, 2020 at 08:22 am

No not yet!

The Packers have other holes to fill! Too many people think a QB will solve all their woes...NOT! I agree the Packers need more more talent at WR. But I'm not sure that's the most necessary position(s). I think the defense specifically ILB and/or DL are the priority. Draft a WR in round 2/3. Packers have had very good luck there.

Next year, might be the year to start looking And planning for a QB. Let's see where Boyle is this summer.

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Philarod's picture

January 25, 2020 at 08:26 am

If the Packers get what they think may be a steal (Tua sliding way down?) without moving up, perhaps, take a shot, but I'm of the opinion that A-Rod - barring another serious injury - is plenty good enough to take a talented team to the Super Bowl. Who is better, right now, in today's NFL? I'd say Mahomes (essentially, a younger Rodgers, if not quite Rodgers at his very best), Jackson (but I want to see more), and possibly Wilson and Watson. I'm also high on Wentz, who needs more around him...though he has a TE!

So yes, the Packers should prioritize (depending on their draft rankings) WR, TE, DT (need a run-stopper!) and LB...but yes, if they get someone they just can't pass up, ket him sit and learn from the best.

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albert999's picture

January 25, 2020 at 08:42 am

On another note
Al please do some or a article on how hideous the NFL and it’s owners are fleecing it’s fans
EXAMPLE from a post on Yahoo sports:
I was a Falcons season ticket holder for 20 years, when Arthur Blank had a new stadium built on taxpayers money, my $2200 tickets went to $12,000 and in my season ticket letter, Arthur Blank said he knew the increase was high, and he would be glad to finance them at 24.96 percent interest rate. I received the letter about a week after the NFL had just stroked Blank a $62 million dollar revenue sharing check. Have not been to a game since!!
Just a shame and should be illegal. Stadiums are gonna get emptier and emptier

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 25, 2020 at 02:31 pm

Another example of a Flim-Flam man living off corporate welfare from the tax payers.

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Johnblood27's picture

January 26, 2020 at 08:59 am

but hot dogs and cokes are cheap in the stadium...

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Jonathan Spader's picture

January 25, 2020 at 09:16 am

Plenty of good QBs slide in the draft. Lamar Jackson was the end of round 1. Packers were 1 pick away from Drew Lock when the Broncos traded up for him in round 2. Good QBs fall and when they do the Packers would be wise to grab one.

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dobber's picture

January 25, 2020 at 09:44 am

Good passers stay up high. Jackson fell because many teams weren't willing to consider him at QB...they wanted him to make a position change based on his athleticism and lack of prototypical QB size.

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January 25, 2020 at 09:31 am

All teams including the Packers, should be open to taking a QB WHEN or IF they feel the guy is going to be a true NFL QB. Nothing wrong at all with grooming a guy while the current one continues to play. In fact the Packers lack of a viable guy lead to a season wasted when Brett Hundley was not up to the task. Plenty of avenues to keep acquiring players to contend while also continuing to secure a future.

“Putting a chip on Rodgers shoulder or causing him to become upset” is a ridiculous notion. No player, not Rodgers, like it was for Favre is bigger or more important than the franchise. I love Rodgers, the player, but at 37 next year their is nothing wrong with considering a future. That is how the Packers got here as a perennial contender in the first place. Whether it’s this year or next Gute should do what he thinks is best for the Packers.

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Swisch's picture

January 25, 2020 at 09:43 am

Whether or not we have to go with Aaron Rodgers due to his contract, I will say that I want to go with Aaron Rodgers.
He's our guy; and he's been great for us; and he still has the talent to lead us to a Super Bowl victory or two.
However, Rodgers has to decide if he's all in with the Packers. While he's earned the right to have some influence, he's the one who has to do most of the adapting to a new offense, and he has to work with the guys who are actually on the roster to bring out the best in them.
If Rodgers is all in with the Packers as presented by the general manager and head coach, then I'm all in with Rodgers.
If not, I'd look into trading him to the Los Angeles Chargers or Las Vegas Raiders or somewhere else. I'd try to get a fresh start for Rodgers, and for us.
No hard feelings. Perhaps Rodgers isn't able or willing to adapt so much. Perhaps he wants a change of scenery to sunnier climes.
I'd much prefer Rodgers to stay with the Packers, but it's a decision that should be made in the next month, if not the next week.

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January 25, 2020 at 09:52 am

Yep, besides we would love to see more of Danica in a bikini

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January 25, 2020 at 01:01 pm

She has the body of a 12 year old boy....no thanks.

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CAG123's picture

January 25, 2020 at 03:38 pm

You been looking at 12 year old boys...? lol

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The_Justicar's picture

January 26, 2020 at 08:03 am

Lol. Nah but I have 10 and 12 year old sons. Danica is the spitting image of one of them ...though maybe she is a little more manly since he is only 12. Lol

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February 15, 2020 at 09:51 am

idiot

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January 25, 2020 at 10:29 am

Swisch - that decision was made when Rodgers signed his last deal and won't be revisited until 2021 at the earliest and more likely in 2022. The bonus Rodgers got in his last deal can't be traded away and it would all come due the day Rodgers was traded to another team. That accelerated bonus write off would gut our cap for 2020 (TGR mentioned $25-$30 million in additional 2020 cap hit) and we would have to lose a slew of good players just to get under the cap. Rodgers will not be traded any time soon - the cap hit is just too catastrophic.

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January 25, 2020 at 12:02 pm

Thanks, Guam, for the truth, even if it's the hard truth.
If so, then Aaron Rodgers has a lot of power to make or break the Packers over the next couple of seasons.
I do think Rodgers has earned the right to have some say in the offense; however, it still seems up to him to do the vast majority of the bending.
As a big fan of Rodgers, I hope he'll do just that, going out of his way to adapt to the new offense, or continuing to do so.
If he is resistant, though, I'm cantankerous enough to sit Rodgers behind Boyle or someone else.
If we can't cut him, fine, then we'll bench him if he refuses to fully cooperate, if he's slyly stubborn, if he's passive-aggressively undermining the team.
Coach Matt LaFleur has some power, too. As a first year coach, he led the Packers to stunning improvement. He can get a job elsewhere, if he has to.
So if Rodgers is in earnest, go with Rodgers, and give him some slack to have some influence in the new offense.
Yet if Rodgers is difficult, then bench him. Don't let Rodgers hold the team hostage. Don't let Rodgers compromise the head coach. No games behind the games. Spare us years of enigmatic melodrama.
Again, I'm all in for Rodgers if he's all in for us. If he's not all in, it's not going to work out, anyway.

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January 26, 2020 at 08:28 am

I think many of us have some concerns about Rodgers - both in terms of a physical decline and/or that passive aggressive edge he developed under MM. Nevertheless, he is our QB1 for at least the next two years.

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January 25, 2020 at 09:51 am

"The Packers need to add an inside linebacker, a defensive tackle, a tight end and a wide receiver in the offseason." Did anyone on this "team" ever hear of a running back or two or three?

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January 25, 2020 at 09:58 am

Agree 100% - we went all-in on Rodgers. Now we play our hand.

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January 25, 2020 at 10:18 am

Let's not over-think the quote from Gute. He's talking about drafting a backup QB, not going out to replace Rodgers this offseason. TGR covered why Rodgers cannot be replaced. It's a fantasy to think otherwise.

The trade for Favre kicked off 25+ years of having a stable situation at QB without any "need". Only once in that time did they make a big move for a QB---when they drafted Rodgers. That took 3 years to actually happen. But at least 30 other QBs were looked at, ranging from cheap veterans to guys drafted up and down the rounds to UDFAs. Most of the names are long forgotten. Some went on to success elsewhere, most notably Kurt Warner. Anyone remember JT O'Sullivan? I didn't until I looked it up. He was added under Mike Sherman. Sherman would have said at the time that he thought O'Sullivan could be a starter in the NFL. That probably drew laughter from many. But that's how GMs talk. Everyone they add is a potential starter. Most of them don't realize that potential.

Maybe this will be the year they do make another big move by drafting Eason or Love or somebody at 30 because they see value there. And it will take at least 2 years before the transition can even be considered. Because the salary cap is a thing, as TGR noted.

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Since'61's picture

January 25, 2020 at 10:53 am

While I agree that the Packers need to improve their backup QB situation I don't think that taking a QB with a Day 1 pick is the correct approach. In this salary cap era teams need to manage their assets. Drafting a QB early and not playing that Qb is a waste of an asset for possibly 2-3 seasons. that is not feasible in today's NFL.

Given that the Packers have imperative needs at WR, DL and ILB I would prefer that they try to fills those needs with their 1-3 round picks. I have no problem if they draft a backup QB with a mid-late round pick. Maybe that player can be developed as an eventual successor to Rodgers.

However if the plan is to try to win another SB with Rodgers (which it must be sine they signed him to a huge contract) then they should go all in on building the strongest supporting cast possible. To me that means utilizing our early picks on the best players at WR, DL and ILB. In the mean while continue the search for Rodger's ultimate successor. If he remains healthy Rodgers should have 2-3 quality seasons remaining, at least. Thanks, Since '61

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Since'61's picture

January 25, 2020 at 10:53 am

While I agree that the Packers need to improve their backup QB situation I don't think that taking a QB with a Day 1 pick is the correct approach. In this salary cap era teams need to manage their assets. Drafting a QB early and not playing that Qb is a waste of an asset for possibly 2-3 seasons. that is not feasible in today's NFL.

Given that the Packers have imperative needs at WR, DL and ILB I would prefer that they try to fills those needs with their 1-3 round picks. I have no problem if they draft a backup QB with a mid-late round pick. Maybe that player can be developed as an eventual successor to Rodgers.

However if the plan is to try to win another SB with Rodgers (which it must be sine they signed him to a huge contract) then they should go all in on building the strongest supporting cast possible. To me that means utilizing our early picks on the best players at WR, DL and ILB. In the mean while continue the search for Rodger's ultimate successor. If he remains healthy Rodgers should have 2-3 quality seasons remaining, at least. Thanks, Since '61

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January 25, 2020 at 01:45 pm

You can win a SB w/out wasting years and picks on a QB if the situation arises. Manning to Denver, Falk in Philly, 49rs traded for Jimmy G, etc. If Gutedkunst wanted Lock last year, he could have moved up two spots, but Jenkins protects your #1 investment. Keep building the Talent around him. There are characters out there. Minshaw went in the fifth. Fast reading fun-and -gun guys are going to be the norm. The Bears glossing over Mahomes tells you that getting a job in a NFL personnel dept is less about ability and more about connections.

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Brandip's picture

January 25, 2020 at 11:20 am

Two years ago, Rodgers signed a four year contract. He plays his contract, and then maybe a one year deal is in order. It all depends on the Quarterback that replaces him. I would like to see this offensive scheme ran consistently before I rush to judgement. Experience, knowledge and his skill set are not easily found. On the other hand, acquiring a quality backup QB should be higher on the agenda than replacing Rodgers. I believe in Gute to make the right decision, as he gets paid a large amount to do just that.

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The_Justicar's picture

January 25, 2020 at 01:07 pm

I think we are two years away from drafting a qb on day 1. I agree we don’t want to draft a qb and have him sit and not play now. However, sometimes we do that anyway, like R. Gary in this years draft and he isn’t even a qb. So, if we would be drafting another project in round 1 (when I prefer a plug and play) then qb may be on the table early.

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frankthefork's picture

January 25, 2020 at 01:24 pm

No story to tell here, but Packers need 6 producers with speed and size in 2020.
RD 1 LB , rd2-WR,-rd 3 DT, rd4 OL, rd 5 -cb, rd 6-7,7; bpa or trade those for a fifth again and take the QB.
As for the rookie coach...no time management skills, lack of slant and crossing plays, and big lack of beef in the trenches.
Gute needs to find 2 FA gems in 2020.
BTW-Who calls for an onside kick with 14:31 on the clock in the 4th quarter?

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 25, 2020 at 01:35 pm

Hank , Ted wasted a two pick on Brian Brohm in 2008.

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HankScorpio's picture

January 25, 2020 at 03:42 pm

I didn't forget about Brohm. I debated whether a late 2nd is considered a big investment and decided a guy that almost every team passed on twice does not fit the bill.

It was most definitely a wasted pick.

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stockholder's picture

January 26, 2020 at 08:34 am

Keep in mind that TT drafted Rodgers when we needed a CB/defense. Favre was not happy about it. That turned out pretty good. By now you've see Pettine's Bear defense. We've watched Goodson, as well as other veterans fail in the middle. Not to mention Burks. I've stated for the last two years to draft a DT and ILb. Wolf rebuilt the DL with veterans. TT signed Pickett and drafted well after Rodgers. Wasting picks on a complicated failing defense doesn't work for me. The choice is to draft or sign. Two players stood out yesterday. Tony Pride CB, and Bradon Anne, Edge Utah. Both could replace Williams or Fackrell. The combine is next. Most like the interviews better at the senior Bowl. I doubt pettine change's the scheme. Seems Like Gute will take defense again first.

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4thand1's picture

January 25, 2020 at 02:04 pm

What fun this time of year. I can't believe some of the comments that get posted. Rodgers is staying put for 2 to 3 years, forget anything else. Some of you think it's a bad thing, it's not. Most sane people in here knew it would be a 2 year build, Gute needs just 2 or 3 pieces to finish the puzzle. He gets them this year, book it. GOPACKGO.

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flackcatcher's picture

January 25, 2020 at 02:51 pm

(Sigh) QB1 here for the duration of his contract. (see TGR comment above) Biggest need for the Packers is quality depth. Last game showed drop off in play at all positions when starters were pulled by injury or rotated out for rest. So the need to upgrade across the roster is an equal if not as great priority as signing your own. Gutes got a lot of work ahead of him..

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The_Justicar's picture

January 26, 2020 at 04:05 pm

Technically the last game showed our starters, not depth, were not good enough to play the run in the d line and linebackers. Depth barely got onto the field based on snap counts.

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flackcatcher's picture

January 27, 2020 at 03:53 pm

Oh, so the rotation in the D line doesn't count huh. I take your point, but that's been a known weak point since before the beginning of this season. Got only so many draft choices and X amount to spend in free agency. We all knew that it. It 's just the way it is...

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packrulz's picture

January 26, 2020 at 05:27 am

If Herbert drops to the Pack I hope Gute drafts him!

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Kevin10's picture

January 26, 2020 at 09:44 am

I agree; no QB with a higher pick. With the Rodgers contract structure, and the timing of the next CBA, patience to find the “next” QB is warranted. I do think it is time to invest in some offensive weapons for Lafleur to use in this offense. Like the signings and draft last year, the right moves will pay off for multiple years.

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