Cory's Corner: Jordan Love's Learning Curve

What are the expectations for the third-year pro and 26th overall pick from 2020?

First of all, I’m just going to be honest: Jordan Love has gotten better. In the first preseason game at San Francisco, Love showed more poise in the pocket and really showed a lot of touch on tight window passes. 

The Packers ultimately lost 28-21 to the 49ers and many are still pointing out that Love threw three picks — even though two of those went off his receivers hands. 

“I thought he made some off-schedule plays,” Matt LaFleur said after the game. “He showed some nice athleticism on a couple of those runs as well. So there was a lot of good things out there from Jordan, just the poise that he showed in the pocket. That’s something that we were looking at. I thought overall, just the process of everything, I thought was a pretty good first step for him.”

Love tossed a pretty 33-yard touchdown pass to Romeo Doubs that looked like it was dropped from the sky. Just perfect placement. Last year, Love had the deer in the headlights look after not dressing for a single game as a rookie two years ago. Things have slowed for Love and you can tell that he is starting to figure it out. 

Things are certainly getting interesting for the Packers. They have their backup quarterback for the 2022 season behind a future first ballot Hall of Famer. And it looks like Love could come in and win a game if Rodgers gets injured. 

You can keep complaining about Love by saying that this is his third year. Technically it’s his second year because COVID wrecked any normal offseason that he should’ve had. And for all those people that still say that Love has issues with accuracy, remember when everyone was saying the same thing about Josh Allen? The Bills starting quarterback has turned it around and has made Buffalo the trendy Super Bowl favorite. Love has solid intangibles, he is very smart and he is humble. 

You cannot write off Love just because of accuracy issues. The game is starting to slow down for him now and the small school quarterback is understanding what it means to be an NFL quarterback. I will agree that Love’s performance on Friday was a roller coaster ride but Love showed progress. Isn’t that what you want from a guy who won't have a large role this year? 

Now if Love was expected to be Green Bay’s starting quarterback, then there would be plenty of reason to be nervous and upset. But what exactly are the expectations of Love this year? All I wanted from him was to be more comfortable in the pocket while being able to master more throws — in and out of the pocket — and I think he did that. 

Now, the question is going to be what are Love’s expectations this year? You cannot compare Love to Aaron Rodgers. We just need to see continued improvement in pre-snap preparation and being able to recognize the pocket melting around you. From that first preseason game, Love has gotten better. 

The key is Love’s ceiling. He could start for the Seahawks, Giants and Texans in Week 1, but I also think his career arc will be comparable to Ryan Tannehill. He has the physical tools to make it work in this league, but can he grasp the mental aspect of the game to understand that turnovers are never OK and that there’s nothing wrong with the mentality of living to see another down?

“I think for everybody, it could have been a better night,” said Love, who was 13-for-24 with 176 yards, two touchdowns and three picks and a quarterback rating of 66. “The ball just happens to bounce a weird way. They capitalized on those plays. Obviously, no one wants that to happen, and it sucks when it does. It’s something to learn from.”

Love, 23, has done plenty of learning already and he showed it on Friday night. 
 

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Cory Jennerjohn is a graduate from UW-Oshkosh and has been in sports media for over 15 years. He was a co-host on "Clubhouse Live" and has also done various radio and TV work as well. He has written for newspapers, magazines and websites. He currently is a columnist for CHTV and also does various podcasts. He recently earned his Masters degree from the University of Iowa. He can be found on Twitter: @Coryjennerjohn

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stockholder's picture

August 16, 2022 at 06:36 am

Won't have a large role this year. - Thats a Good Thing!
The expectations of Love this year? - We shouldn't have any!
The key is Love’s ceiling. - He's reached it!
" It’s something to learn from ” - How many more will he throw? -
This isn't a game of excuses. - And thats what Love is turning into as a Packer.
If You don't get someone in there that knows how to protect the ball. He will compromise what the Packers do, for years to come.

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murf7777's picture

August 16, 2022 at 07:20 am

It not an excuse, it’s just reality that both receivers should’ve caught those two INT’s. If they catch the passes Love has 1INT and probably another TD. Hmm, how would the masses rate Love if he had 3TD’s and 1INT and a passer rating of around 100? People get too tied up in stats, especially analyst who only see high or low lights. Does he make mistakes, yes and who doesn’t, but he also has shown improvement with his foot work, decisiveness and command of huddle.

My thoughts is if he plays during the season due to Rodgers getting injured he would play competitively and win at least 50% of the games. Mostly because this is a very good team. His ceiling is better than that as he gets playing time and becomes a starter. Most QB’s need a year or two of starting before you can assess their ceiling. I still don’t have a good take on his long term prognosis. Let’s keep in mind, their are very few great ones. We have been spoiled and we will find out how much when Rodgers retires.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

August 17, 2022 at 07:22 pm

Great commentary Murf7777 and totally in agreement.

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NickPerry's picture

August 16, 2022 at 07:23 am

"The key is Love’s ceiling. - He's reached it!"

I tell you SH, I would bet ANY amount of money that Love hasn't reached his ceiling. I'm not overly impressed with Love either but to suggest this is the best he'll EVER be, that he's hit his ceiling in the limited number of snaps he's played is just ludicrous.

" It’s something to learn from ” - How many more will he throw?"

I'm sure he'll throw a few more, especially if he throws to Tyler Davis and it bounces off HIS HANDS or the opposing DB makes a great play and takes the ball away from the Packers WR on the way to the ground.

Those were two of his three interceptions. Whatever it is that drives this hate of Jordan Love in you, it's time to let it go. Clearly whatever it is that clouds what is actually happening on the field. Again, Love was FAR from perfect Friday night but common SH.

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stockholder's picture

August 16, 2022 at 07:33 am

There is No hate. I'm telling it like it is. The word everyone around the NFL used. WAS " STRUGGLED "! Well thats just what we've seen every time he's started. You throw into traffic. You're going to get picked! Shit happens. And its been happening to Love since they drafted him. You and others wanted Rodgers gone for this guy. If you can't stand the music. Don't listen to it.

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Coldworld's picture

August 16, 2022 at 08:02 am

I seem to recall that you knew Rodgers was a turkey from the outset too.

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stockholder's picture

August 16, 2022 at 10:05 am

Rodgers earned everything. He didn't keep making the same mistakes, over and over. His Arm maybe the most accurate in the NFL. Love's is Not. I was "told" Rodgers was ready. And that the packers were going to give him a chance. Before Favre was traded. I haven't heard that about Love. Let's just stop reaching for straws. A lot of NFL Qbs had strong arms. And didn't amount to a hill of beans. Until Love can throw the ball with accuracy. He's at the top of the hill. So as much as everyone wants to TOOT support. He shouldn't replace Rodgers. Thats not HATE. Thats logical!! I hated the pick of a QB. That was Logical. Because it was controversy. And the fact that you want to throw praise at Love. Still is full of controversy.
Favre was traded for after 1 year on the bench. Think about that! After 1 year. Love isn't anywhere near Favre.

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

August 16, 2022 at 12:33 pm

"I was "told" Rodgers was ready. And that the packers were going to give him a chance. Before Favre was traded. I haven't heard that about Love."

Yep, Love has not had the developmental time in the league that Rodgers had, given COVID wiping out one entire offseason. Just b/c he's not ready doesn't mean he never will be. As the author says, if Rodgers had retired, we would have a reason to worry. But Rodgers isn't Favre and he didn't retire and he's playing at a high level, so there's still time for Jordan to improve. No reason to call his career at this point. You might be absolutely right, but it's still premature.

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Rarescope's picture

August 16, 2022 at 10:41 pm

Ha! You quoted the exact line I was going to. This dipshit is so full of it… of course no one is saying that - because Rodgers isn’t retiring this year. Sheesh Stockholder, just when I didn’t think my faith in humanity could sink any lower, all I need do is hop on cheeseheadtv and read more of your BS. Good times, good times…

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murf7777's picture

August 16, 2022 at 01:11 pm

Your trying to compare Love to Rodgers and/or Favre and that’s not fair to Love. They are both 1st time HOF, it’s like comparing apples to oranges. HOF QB’s don’t grow on trees. As I said, we have been spoiled and reality will set in when Rodgers retires, It might take multiple draft picks to get one high quality starting QB (think Stafford or Matt Ryan) much less another 1st time HOF’er.

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Coldworld's picture

August 16, 2022 at 01:33 pm

Favre was traded for having so enraged his team that his then head coach had said he would never see the field again. By his own admission Favre was just partying and was certainly awful. Fortunately one Ron Wolf had already fallen in love with his potential. Even then, almost no one else in Lambeau had any faith in Favre.

Rodgers had earned nothing at the equivalent point in his career. He was truly awful his first preseason, looked ok in his second with a few moments worth celebrating starting to appear, in his third he was much improved in terms of awareness, Confidence and decisiveness. Not perfect, certainly not free of errors.

It’s one thing to rewrite history, it’s another altogether to see you arguing the same thing a decade and a half later with the same lack of insight coupled with the ever present absolute certainty and lack of factual basis. You don’t like Love, you don’t like Gute and now, ironically, Rodgers who once could do no right can do no wrong.

I have to admire your chutzpah but equally to dismiss the gibberish you are spewing.

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stockholder's picture

August 16, 2022 at 06:02 pm

Ron Wolf liked what he saw at the senior Bowl. And Favre was praised. Unlike Love. The comparison I was making. ( Was the 1 year on the bench before the trade. ) Got that! And we gave them a #1 choice at that time.
So who was ahead of schedule? There wasn't any curve for Favre. He was the future QB coming to GB.
Rodgers only had to read the defenses. Special plays were designed for him. (For him to Make adjustments.)
The objection I had at that time, was the windows of other players closing. But Favre did have thumb surgery!!!!
I'm not arguing or rewriting anything. I gave you a comment on the article. Which you and others turned into hate.
Your representation is Assassination. You don't get it. The House of cards will collapse, if Love ever becomes QB. You're willing to grant him a curve. Losing will come first! And I stated the excuses will never end.
This is a championship team with Rodgers. Not Love. Thats not Hate. Rodgers got the money. Which you hate!

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Rarescope's picture

August 16, 2022 at 10:50 pm

“ The House of cards will collapse, if Love ever becomes QB. You're willing to grant him a curve.”

Uhhhhh… YEah. Draft and develop is what the Packers do, which entails a learning curve. Apparently you have our team confused with one of those ‘if we don’t win a Super Bowl this year fire everyone’ franchises. I didn’t think I’d ever find myself defending Love but here we are - I’m as baffled by your comments as I was by the Love pick in the first place.

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BAMABADGER's picture

August 16, 2022 at 10:53 am

Who are the people that make up "the word everyone around in the NFL used"? The same people that didn't recognize the talent of AR when he slid in the draft? And WTH does SRUGGLED mean? I struggle every day dealing with incompetent people. I consider that a positive for me, not so much for the incompetent.

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kozmo's picture

August 16, 2022 at 04:28 pm

Well none of those people around the NFL watched the game. If they had of they would have seen a much more confident player who had the ball coming out on time and had 3 picks, 2 due to receivers not cat Ching the ball.

Hes not Rodgers and likely never will be....BUT to say hes reached his ceiling after very limited play is simply rediculous.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

August 17, 2022 at 07:24 pm

SH's comment while stupid was intentional to get people to react. LOL!

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Ken Parrish's picture

August 16, 2022 at 08:24 am

Agreed. Love is an average QB at best. He wasn't worth a first round pick. The Packers should trade him now while they can still get something for him. If he is the future of the Packers, the Packers' future is dim!

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

August 17, 2022 at 07:24 pm

Harsh....glad you have a crystal ball!

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

August 16, 2022 at 09:08 am

I thought you reached your ceiling for your ridiculous hatred of Love but you keep proving me wrong.

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Rarescope's picture

August 16, 2022 at 10:52 pm

Return to sanity drops the mic.

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SanLobo's picture

August 16, 2022 at 06:47 am

Cory’s comment that, “You cannot compare Love to Aaron Rodgers.” is just wrong. He was drafted to eventually replace Aaron, and he has been continuously compared to him on this and every other forum since. For me, Love has shown marked improvement in the position, but the jury is still out on him. ARod’s skill set is unbelievable and rare, so I have no unfair expectations of Love. To me the question is, can Love eventually rise to be a high tier 3 or tier 2 QB in this league? If so, along with a great defense and solid ST play, that would probably be good enough to stay competitive. HOF QBs are rare and GB has been blessed with two in a row, but you can win with a good enough QB if you have all the other pieces in place. I’m hoping that Love can become that guy as he is who we have lined up to take the job right now.

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PatrickGB's picture

August 16, 2022 at 07:30 am

San, my thoughts exactly. After #12 is gone, it’s up to the rest of the team to carry the load.

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

August 16, 2022 at 09:13 am

But you're comparing Love after just 3 preseason games and 6 qtrs of reg season play to Rodgers right now after 17 years of mastering his craft. Its unreasonable and frankly its ridiculous. A more accurate comparison would be to compare Love to Rodgers when he was entering his 3rd season. Love is a lot closer to early year 3 Rodgers than most realize.

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SanLobo's picture

August 16, 2022 at 10:24 am

I’m saying we have to wait and see on Love, the jury is still out. Love is now surrounded with one of the greatest QBs ever to play the game and the Coach that QB credits for making him great…both who seem to want to help Love reach his potential.

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PatrickGB's picture

August 16, 2022 at 07:27 am

“ You cannot write off Love just because of accuracy issues”. Cory, I think you may be wrong there. Accuracy is one of the paramount skilll requirements for a NFL caliber QB. I am happy to hear about his growth as a leader but if he continues to be inaccurate then he is no better than most of the backups playing today. My hope is the his new QB coach will help.

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Coldworld's picture

August 16, 2022 at 07:58 am

Accuracy can be a physical limitation or one driven by technique and indecision. If it’s the former, it tends to be consistent inconsistency, or at least closely related to velocity and distance. That is sometimes able to be improved by technique adjustment, but is largely a cap on capability.

If the inconsistency is not defined by distance and is interspersed with accurate and touch throws, then there may be some opportunity for technical refinement but the likelihood is that the player is overthinking or hesitating. That typically improves with playing time and familiarity with players and calls. It’s usually an up and down process. To me Love falls fairly clearly into the latter type primarily. As such he’s a work in progress and thus the jury remains out in how much he will make.

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stockholder's picture

August 16, 2022 at 07:43 pm

Jim Mchan was signed for back-up. Experience and Leadership in a pinch. If you remember that. Does arm strength make a winner. The Point is: How much longer can Love chase the dream as a packer?

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Rarescope's picture

August 16, 2022 at 10:57 pm

“ The Point is: How much longer can Love chase the dream as a packer?”

Through this season at least, which kinda makes all of your points and opinions the equivalent of a two year olds temper tantrum for not getting an ice cream cone.

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jont's picture

August 16, 2022 at 09:14 pm

"Accuracy is one of the paramount skilll requirements for a NFL caliber QB. I am happy to hear about his growth as a leader but if he continues to be inaccurate then he is no better than most of the backups playing today."

FWIW, Phil and Chris Sims reviewed Love's play against the 49ers and absolutely reamed him out on his inaccuracy. Old Phil goes over the top with a lot of his opinions and he did so on Love. Chris was more measured but said Love looks average compared to this year's incoming QBs so far.

The pass to Doubs that was intercepted was one play they highlighted. A five yard out, Chris said, is the easiest throw for a QB and it was off target. Blame Doubs for not winning the fight for possession, but the pass was easy and missed.

Can't say I full agree with them, but with 12 skipping every camp, Love's gotten a lot of good attention and coaching. It is not unreasonable to expect consistent throwing at this point.

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Coldworld's picture

August 16, 2022 at 07:45 am

That we don’t dissect a player we all hope and expect will not start this year on a daily basis. That we look more closely at some of the others whose preseason performance might actually matter more significantly this year. That we manage to retain some perspective and proportion.

It was one thing for the community to be at each other’s throats during transition to Rodgers. It’s another when the one thing we know is that there’s no intent to transition to Love this season.

The one thing that is certain is that none of us have more insight on this today than we had yesterday. it’s very very likely that we see a lot more of and learn more about, of Love over the next couple of weeks.

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PatrickGB's picture

August 16, 2022 at 07:59 am

I have slammed Jordan and I have praised Jordan. So I guess that I am overthinking this. Cold, you make a good point. It’s a wait and see situation. I hate wait and see. 😉

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Coldworld's picture

August 16, 2022 at 07:41 am

Duplicate

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Matt Gonzales's picture

August 16, 2022 at 08:28 am

I like what I'm seeing from Love. His footwork and timing have improved greatly, and I think a big part of that is that he has been focusing on his mechanics in the off-season, which also shows maturity to understand where he needs to improve and then go out of his way to do it.

He still doesn't read the field and plays as they are developing quickly enough, and that is the type of thing that leads to bad decisions. Time will tell if he can improve that.

He obviously has all the physical tools and could start in several places, but he hasn't shown enough yet to solidify that he is the answer when AR hangs up his cleats.

Because of the way AR's contract is structured, this next off-season will be an important one in terms of future guarantees, and I think what GB does in the draft will be telling how they feel about Love going forward.

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dobber's picture

August 16, 2022 at 09:36 am

" I think a big part of that is that he has been focusing on his mechanics in the off-season,"

I think it also has something to do with him having a better QB coach...a guy with a long history of coaching good and talented QBs, not just a guy who was brought in to be the sidekick in a #12 buddy movie.

None of us knows whether 10 will ever be a plus or even competent starter in this league, but I think Tom Clements increases that chances of that happening...and 10 DID look improved over when we last saw him on Saturday evening.

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stockholder's picture

August 16, 2022 at 10:10 pm

Then why did Atlanta draft Favre? They had Miller. He was a Competent starter. The Story out now, is Wolf called Favre. Atlanta has never won a Super-bowl. It's all about Leadership and experience if you want to win a Super-Bowl. Something Tom Brady Knows all about. The Packers knew that, when he grabbed McMahon for back-up. If you want to be like Atlanta. The packers got their man. Or did they?

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T7Steve's picture

August 16, 2022 at 08:53 am

Let's see what Tom Clements can do. He's just starting to work with Love and it's looking like it is already bearing fruit.

I think we'd be better off with just one discussion a week on Jordan Love during this preseason. We seem to be headed to a repeat of yesterday. Lets solve another problem today, please.

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dobber's picture

August 16, 2022 at 09:37 am

I should've scrolled one more message before posting mine. I'm with you on all your points.

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Coldworld's picture

August 16, 2022 at 10:01 am

“I think we'd be better off with just one discussion a week on Jordan Love during this preseason. We seem to be headed to a repeat of yesterday. Lets solve another problem today, please.”

Amen!

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jannes bjornson's picture

August 16, 2022 at 10:04 am

When do we critique the Fans?

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T7Steve's picture

August 16, 2022 at 11:29 am

Isn't that all we do here?

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Rarescope's picture

August 16, 2022 at 11:06 pm

“ Lets solve another problem today, please.”

We are actually here to solve problems? My mistake, I thought this was just another ‘I know better than everybody who does this for an actual living’ type sports page. In that case, by all means carry on Stockholder at al., Favre be it from me to stand in the way of the important work you are doing here.

Goddamn I miss you Pantzburp, where the heck are you man?

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canadapacker's picture

August 16, 2022 at 09:17 am

OK - and I looked at the replay again - I am unlike Stockholder - not a Love hater. But I am not a Love hyper either. And the coaching staff needs to be a hyper. Love needs to improve his accuracy. He one INT was a steal as the pass was caught. But INT 1 was a high throw into a well covered receiver.Blame the receiver for not catching a jumping ball when about to get hit ??? INT 2 was behind and again high - how does anybody say it was a tip - a little undercut but because the ball was high and behind. And just before that another high ball was tipped and then caught by Winnfree and could have been an INT but we got lucky. I would say that that ball needs to be low so he cant catch it and get down. Love definitely has some skills and his runs were great and his pocket presence seems to be getting better BUT - his accuracy on at least 4 throws especially to the backs in the flat were so bad that they were incompletions. Throwing into the middle needs to be bang on or tips will happen. Coryjj - seems to be a Lafluer hyper rather than an honest critical analysis - and I am not trying to pick Love apart and what I said here is what I was looking for before the game started. We all see too many new QB's that cant put the ball where it needs to be at game speed especially in the middle of the field.

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dobber's picture

August 16, 2022 at 09:38 am

It's a catch-and-run league, and it's hard to catch and run balls at the knees.

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canadapacker's picture

August 16, 2022 at 10:49 am

What kind of comment is that? It is hard to jump into the air and catch a ball in traffic when the Dback is about to throw his shoulder into your midsection or catch the ball when running in one direction and the ball is behind you. No wonder the trailing Dback is able to jump the route - he has the momentum. And out of the backfield you need to be able to catch the ball preferably when looking upfield to see who is coming and to have time to make a move. Geesh

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croatpackfan's picture

August 16, 2022 at 09:19 am

There is a lot of experts on this site. I admit I'm not one of them. I just posting what I see and what I can understand under the available data.

Till now we can say that 23 years old guy showing a lot of mature and his public attitude is positive. We can see that he has the strong arm, he can throw very deep balls. We can discuss about his throwing technique, but that is something he need to solve with his coaches. Also, at least for me, it is understandable that some aspects of the his game is under the influence of adrenalin, and it is visible that he trying to achieve more than is either asked from him, or expected. We may pretend that he is not under the influence of the fans, but I believe he read articles on the most popular internet sources connected with Packers and he read our comments.

Following that, as bright as he is, it is clear to him that large portion of Packers fans are against him, and I believe he understand that he is not guilty for that (he is not the one who in any way forced or influenced Packers decision to draft him, except by his presence in the draft). With AR shameful behavior after Jordan's 1st year a day before 2020 draft he was pushed into unbelievable negative situation, through which he came out very mature. I like him because of that. He was not one who was adding fuel to the situation and stayed on side of the whole thing. Still, Packers fans blame him for the whole story.

Is he another HOF QB in the row for Packers? Probably not. But who knows. If you want to compare Aaron Rodgers to Jordan Love, lets see how he fare in his second preseason 2006, what was his data? This is official data from NFL for AR: Games played - 2; Attempt - 15; Completed - 6 (40%); Yards - 46; Average per attempt - 3.1; Longest throw - 16; TD - 0; INT - 0; 1st downs - 2 (13.3%); 20+ - 0; Sacks - 3; Sacks per yards - 18; Rate - 48.2! And this is the official data from NFL for Jordan Love: Games played - 1; Attempt - 24; Completed - 13 (54.2%); Yards - 176; Average per attempt - 7.3; Longest throw - 33; TD - 2; INT - 3; 1st downs - 8 (33.3%); 20+ - 3; Sacks - 0; Sacks per yards - 0; Rate - 66!

Number of attempts and yards and TD are for 2 games (Aaron Rodgers) vs 1 game (Jordan Love)

Looking the stats, Packers have 3rd HOF QB in the row. LOL.

This was just to tell everyone how stats are empty numbers without the perspective and counting on many other details... But it also shows that development are crucial for every player to become very good or excellent in his job/execution of the tasks!

And that comes for all players and all positions. Remember Davante Adams, or more closer to today - Rashan Gary. Not to mention that Aaron Rodgers was also "negative one" in his 3 to 4 years of his young career. I bet that persons behind the nicks of "stockholder" or "imapayne" or so on was even harsher to Aaron Rodgers in his beginnings.

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Rarescope's picture

August 16, 2022 at 11:10 pm

Good god Croat I hope CoryJJ isn’t dumb enough to read the comments on his articles let alone J love.

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TarynsEyes's picture

August 16, 2022 at 10:18 am

Favre was a reckless, turnover machine gunslinger who made it exciting and won while putting GB back on the NFL map.

Rodgers is a strong arm, highly intelligent, highly efficient and a strong protector of the ball and won, and has kept GB a permanent fixture on the NFL map.

Describe what Love is or might become. Tell me the attribute that defines him now or his possible, but more improbable legacy, and where GB will be on the NFL map.

After two seasons with GB, we all knew what we had going forward with Favre and Rodgers. What is Love showing that tells us where we are going.

I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see any magic coming to GB, no matter how much love is given to Love, and he's running out of time to influence the decisions needed to be made after this season.

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T7Steve's picture

August 16, 2022 at 10:45 am

Taryn, I know we've been spoiled but, I remember being fearful of the day Brett retired. Then at the end I was getting tired of him keeping us hanging with and not showing up to camp till he had to. Sound familiar? Lets go for a repeat and keep the North squirming for another generation. It pisses off the teams that make it so hard to find a quarterback when we can win with a Cutler even.

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August 16, 2022 at 11:10 am

Yes, the pending end of the Favre era was depressing, but even though Rodgers preseason stats, some love to bring up to compare with Love, showed an 'it' that was making it easier for the FO to take issue with Favres' antics, and then making the decision to go with Rodgers. Rodger's first season wasn't great, but his 'it' was seen and ultimately proved and embedded in that playoff game against Arizona. The rest is history. Love isn't making a decision on Rodgers easier, in fact, Love is making it harder. Again, what is Loves' 'it.'

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T7Steve's picture

August 16, 2022 at 11:27 am

Still have to hope. All we really can do. I was actually really skeptical about Rodgers (shows what I know). I couldn't believe that we'd be able to follow up Brett. thought we'd go another 30 years. I used to love when we'd get field position starting on the 5 just so it'd be a longer drive. Then Rodgers started doing it too.

Still would rather bring up our own than have to find and pay a free agent like Kirk Cousins.

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Rarescope's picture

August 16, 2022 at 11:13 pm

Couldn’t speak to what Loves IT is, my crysta ball is still at the shop.

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HawkPacker's picture

August 16, 2022 at 11:01 am

'After two seasons with GB, we all knew what we had going forward with Favre and Rodgers.'

I beg to differ on this statement. Not sure on Favre as he was exciting but dangerous even early in his career with Green Bay. However, after 2 years I do remember thinking that Rodgers sucked and I was very disappointed in his game. After that, at some point in time, he really turned things around and I remember thinking that how can a player appear to be just so-so turn out to be as good as he is.

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Coldworld's picture

August 16, 2022 at 07:09 pm

Actually I’d argue that a minority of us had seen and claimed it it during the preceding preseason (his third). The majority did not and still find the after the Dallas game. That said I don’t recall anyone who came out and predicted that Rodgers would become the Rodgers of three years later. That spark was the spark of a plausible starter, not seen as indicative that he was a future Hall of Famer. Rodgers just kept on progressing.

So Love is a pre season and a half behind Rodgers first visible sparks (per you). That kind of sums up the ridiculous rush to conclusions and the danger in drawing distorted parallels.

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TarynsEyes's picture

August 16, 2022 at 04:01 pm

I didn't say or implied that anyone saw in Rodgers what Rodgers would become, but that it showed up with him. Also, let's stop forgetting that this is actually the third preseason for Love and not the second. Their number 1 selection didn't participate in camp, why? Refresh my memory why he couldn't be in camp and miss his first year of the learning process. You can't use that as a knock against Rodgers to promote Love.

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Coldworld's picture

August 16, 2022 at 07:28 pm

If you want a memory refresh (im not entirely sure you need one but others may):

There was no off season in person training and a minimal preseason without games. LaFleur decided too short to not run with the retained back up.

Rodgers of course had 3 full off and preseasons at this point and also 2 of MMs very intensive QB school on top of that—now prohibited under the CBA. According to Clements , “between Rodgers’ second and third seasons, Quarterback School consisted of 10 hours in the film room and 3 hours on the practice field a week, an offensive study conducted in “painstaking detail,” in addition to organized team off season activities, starting in early spring.

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 16, 2022 at 08:23 pm

I think the QB camps were invaluable for Rodgers. I also think some rookie QBs are playing better than ever these days.

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Rarescope's picture

August 16, 2022 at 11:18 pm

“ Refresh my memory why he couldn't be in camp and miss his first year of the learning process.”

Taryn confirms my suspicion that she is actually a member of one of those uncontacted tribes living in the Amazon rainforest who found a smartphone that was dropped out of an airplane.

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croatpackfan's picture

August 17, 2022 at 07:51 am

"After two seasons with GB, we all knew what we had going forward with Favre and Rodgers. What is Love showing that tells us where we are going."

Yes, I'm sure you were certain that Aaron Rodgers is future HOF QB after the that 2 games in his second preseason!

Btw, what was his NFL experience when he played vs Arizona that game you are talking about? And if he was so good why Packers did not release Brett Favre before 2008 season. Which ended (2008), as I can remember with 6-10 result. Where was the AR magic during that season? He had must be kept hidden from everyone...

Again, TarynEyes, I would love to see Jordan Love succeed as Packers QB and to become 3rd HOF QB in the row for Packers. But, as many here I wrote and I will again: I DO NOT KNOW will he be. What I certainly knows is that Jordan Love needs time at least similar time which was given to AR to learn all small things about be top QB, before we can make proper assessment of how he plays.

And, my dear co-fans, I do not expect Jordan Love to play as Aaron Rodgers. I expect him to find his way of playing Packers QB, as Aaron Rodgers find his own way and not simulate Brett Favre way of playing. Than we can talk about the comparison between AR and JL, but only by results, not by way they played.

What I can see and hear JL will never roll his eyes or furiously looks at his teammates if someone will not do what he would expect from him. For me, those kind of reactions are for closed rooms and honest talks, not for public presentation.

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LambeauPlain's picture

August 16, 2022 at 10:24 am

CBS Sports ranks Love as the 4th best backup among the young QBs. Sounds about right.

Jimmy G is ranked as the best backup among the older vets.

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Lphill's picture

August 16, 2022 at 11:49 am

I don't think we have seen enough of Love to make a fair evaluation just yet, lets at least give him until the end of this pre-season.

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SpikeHyzer's picture

August 16, 2022 at 02:15 pm

Had the WRs been on point on all 3 INTs and it turned in to 25 or 35 yards, Loves QB rating would have been 122.7
It really was the best he's played, especially when you consider how little he's played. He did control the huddle and no dumb penalties. I felt he could have been sharper with about 4 of the incompletions, was often behind the receiver (though I think the ball to Doubs was the best he could do and was taking advantage of Doubs legendary catch radius, and Doubs has to complete the play; he wasn't that good on the other balls thrown to him either).

I'm honestly starting to buy the idea of him being the next Packer great. Better than Favre and not quite as great as Aaron.

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13TimeChamps's picture

August 16, 2022 at 03:00 pm

I want to preface this by saying this NOT a knock on Love. I'm actually cautiously optimistic that he will be a decent NFL QB when all is said and done, hopefully with the Packers.

But better than 321 consecutive starts, 186 career wins, 71,838 yds and 508 TDs? Time to rethink those liquid lunches, my friend. And spare me the interceptions. They don't take away from the 2nd most wins all time.

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 16, 2022 at 08:25 pm

If the throw to Doubs was the best he could do it's not good enough. Doubs had to turn completely around to catch it. Bad throw.

https://twitter.com/RossUglem/status/1558533225126977536?t=EtynqrG_iFdXZ...

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croatpackfan's picture

August 17, 2022 at 07:55 am

Oh, yeah. You look only at the ball placement, but what with the window through which he was able to throw the ball. Are you sure that he has choice with all the hands from defenders were in the air at the line of scrimmage? But what I know...

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Ferrari-Driver's picture

August 16, 2022 at 08:17 pm

Interesting comments here. I will say this...I lived through the 1970's and 1980's and I hope our franchise and fans, including me, don't have to do it again. Love sure seems like the kind of guy I and others like to pull for to achieve success. He has some good physical tools to work with and it's darn hard to tell what is missing when many of these physically talented young quarterbacks fail in the NFL. I don't think the final bell has rung for Love yet and I hope when it does ring, it strikes a positive note.

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