Cory's Corner: Jimmy Graham Has Limited Value

Jimmy Graham is a tough guy to guage as the sun begins to rise on his 10th NFL season.

Don't expect the 2013 Graham that saw a career high with 16 touchdowns. He also had 76 yards per game. Do you want to know how many touchdowns and yards per game he had last year? That would two and 40.

I liked Graham when the Packers got him because I didn't think Seattle used him correctly. He never had more than 65 receptions in the Pacific Northwest -- in New Orleans he averaged 77.

The reason Graham is a riddle wrapped in an enigma is because he is actually a wide receiver in a tight end body. He wants to be a wide receiver. He wouldn't mind lining up on the outside each and every play and not have to worry about in-line blocking or smashmouth goaline situations.

And the reason is because Graham isn't a good blocker. I'm not sure Graham even likes to block. There were numerous occasions last season of Graham whiffing on blocks or just looking disinterested.
Those two attributes aren't going to mesh well with Matt LaFleur's new offensive scheme that will stress the running game even more.

So where does that leave Graham? In a perfect world, he will be lined up on the outside possibly next to Davante Adams or Marquez Valdes-Scantling. Rodgers will be able to still get Graham the ball by using Graham's 6-foot-7 frame, but there's no chance of Graham using his speed to get open anymore.

Graham's 32-year-old legs cannot get open and cut like he used to, but he can still climb the ladder and bring home the ball thanks to a 62 percent catch rate.
Just keep the expectations pretty low. Pro Football Focus has Graham as  Tier 4 tight end. He is lumped in with Delanie Walker, Jack Doyle, Greg Olson, Jordan Reed and Kyle Rudolph. Not great, but serviceable.

Graham is due $12.6 million this year, which ranks as the No. 1 cap hit this year ahead of Travis Kelce and Zach Ertz. Graham can't worry about that ranking and let that get into his mindset because he isn't going to be the best tight end this year. Not by a long shot.

But if used correctly, Graham can still offer some value.

 

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Cory Jennerjohn is a graduate from UW-Oshkosh and has been in sports media for over 15 years. He was a co-host on "Clubhouse Live" and has also done various radio and TV work as well. He has written for newspapers, magazines and websites. He currently is a columnist for CHTV and also does various podcasts. He recently earned his Masters degree from the University of Iowa. He can be found on Twitter: @Coryjennerjohn

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Bure9620's picture

August 24, 2019 at 06:50 am

I am not sure he is as slow as you are saying, he does still offer value on seam routes, he was also dealing with knee issues last year which slowed him considerably. But Graham is still on the faster side for TEs, I keep hearing this guy is slower than molasses in January and that isn't the case, he can still separate from linebackers. He now has average to above average speed for a TE. You saw this early last year before the knee issues.

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Coldworld's picture

August 24, 2019 at 07:05 am

Watching him early last year, I have always been dubious of the slowness assertions. Again in camp, he still doesn’t look slow. I think your take is absolutely correct from the eye test Bure. I think Graham will be helped by the new system.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

August 24, 2019 at 10:47 am

I agree that he can be valuable. That said if he refuses to block he should be immediately put on the bench for Tonyan and told that blocking is his job and if he doesn't like it he can ride the pine. His effort on many blocks last year was pathetic.

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4thand10's picture

August 24, 2019 at 09:11 pm

Anyone wanna place money on Graham. 10 yrs in NFL is worth a little bit. He’s got 2 inches and 20lbs on Hockenson + experience. I’ll put money on him having better numbers than Hockenson. His blocking isn’t great, but it’s not bottom of the barrel either. He went from a pass oriented offense in NO to a run heavy offense in Seattle. Last year he produced above average while being injured.

Is the money he’s being paid worth it... IDK , but I would say it’s a bit on the steep end for a tight end. Hardly any starters have played this pre season, officiating and changes has been horrid so there’s not really a gauge except for last year. We’ll see if the coaching changes bring more out of him, and some health. But, I’ll take some of that experience in some different systems anyday over an unknown. Because at this point we don’t know who is going to be productive and who’s going to be a dumpster fire because of the lack of showcasing on the starters.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 25, 2019 at 02:42 am

Graham's blocking at the point of attack is bottom of the barrel. He is okay in space and when cutting off the backside. When Graham is inline, the run isn't designed to go through any gap near Graham, except perhaps once in a while to keep the defense honest (or try to).

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WinUSA's picture

August 25, 2019 at 09:12 pm

4th... the guy can’t catch, run, and won’t block ... Seattle management busted their ribs laughing when they saw what the Packers paid this clown.

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WinUSA's picture

August 25, 2019 at 09:09 pm

Oh yeah... the guy is a regular cheetah...he blocks like my kids bubble and has only nine fingers... maybe only one thumb!

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4thand1's picture

August 24, 2019 at 06:49 am

This is a weird one. It's not like JG has had debilitating injuries that have slowed him down. The Pack has more than enough wide receivers so if he can't block or won't block somethings gotta give. The salary has to match the production or hit the bricks.

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lucky953's picture

August 24, 2019 at 12:56 pm

He adds almost nothing to this team. Eat the roster bonus; maybe they can package him with a late round pick and trade for a quality ILB. Or just cut him and open a roster spot for another running back, an extra receiver, another CB, wherever they need to keep talent and depth.

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Doug Niemczynski's picture

August 24, 2019 at 09:33 pm

Get high on the Hock!!

Oh yeah, draft is over. Dang it. Well, we have R. no show Gary. Double dang it.

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stockholder's picture

August 24, 2019 at 07:05 am

12.6 million. is not about value. Plain and simple he's costly. I won't say Gute made a mistake. But I will say that the packers must tap into his strengths. Grahams success has always depended on A-Rod. The more he gets targeted, the better for the offense. Gute paid for a threat. If he isn't. Dump him.

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D.D.Driver's picture

August 24, 2019 at 08:18 am

I will say it then. It was a huge mistake to pay Graham's 5 million dollar roster bonus and the no longer be able to afford Mike Daniels.

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Lare's picture

August 24, 2019 at 08:47 am

I know LaFleur values the TE position but I was also a little surprised when they paid Graham's $5.3 million roster bonus which pretty much guaranteed they'd keep him and his $12.7 million salary on the books for 2019.

We'll just have to see if his production this year makes their investment worthwhile.

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hobowilly's picture

August 25, 2019 at 10:10 am

i would suggest none of us know specifically how these contracts are structured and what goes down in negotiations. What really is in "roster bonuses"? Availability? When does GB mgmt allow journalists to ask questions about these things? It's really none of our business. You'd hope that Russ Ball and Co. have incentives for players such as JG, and, many others. Incentives can be tied to performance it would appear and perhaps if you don't catch 50 passes, or gain 700 yds you don't earn part of an incentive bonus (or, whatever there may be, or what it's known as). What if you are unwilling to block? Or, a liability in that phase of the game? Perhaps you don't put them in that situation where you are expecting them to perform the majority of the time. Are RB's put in the game on 3rd and 7 as pass pro because back "x" is the best pass pro player? When it comes time to renew their contracts it would appear that is a skill GB would value along with YPC, or pass catches. Moreover, are you a leader in the locker room? Do you actually help coach up teammates? Those attributes are a nice to have, but i doubt these things are "incentivized". GB loves players that are wired "correctly" and its fans are keenly aware of this!

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Cubbygold's picture

August 24, 2019 at 11:04 am

Unless they know something about daniels foot injury that we dont

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Coldworld's picture

August 24, 2019 at 12:01 pm

Yes, that’s interesting because it’s an injury that takes longer to be fully fit than healthy enough to take the field.

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Scrum's picture

August 24, 2019 at 01:44 pm

Wait, his offensive* salary is the reason why they didn't keep a defensive player that doesnt fit with what Pettine wants?

Not the $$ paid to the Smith's? Amos? The money needed to extend Clark? The money needed to extend martinez?

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Qoojo's picture

August 24, 2019 at 10:36 am

Before the season is over, they will regret not dumping Graham and keeping Daniels, if they aren't regretting it already.

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Rick1's picture

August 24, 2019 at 07:37 am

I think he has been average at best in camp. Gutekunst said he is keeping the best 53 football players. He has to be a fringe player at this point. He is not that dynamic playmaker. I honestly believe the packers will have 3-4 players on the final 53 that come from other teams.

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Rak43's picture

August 24, 2019 at 08:24 am

Actually Gute said they are not necessarily keeping the best 53 players but the 53 that will produce the best team. If that means keeping the best 53 overall players he will do so, but he is basically saying there will more than likely be some tough cuts at overstocked positions.

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Cubbygold's picture

August 24, 2019 at 11:07 am

He's not on the bubble. If they cut Graham that leaves 3 guys. From all accounts, Sternberger is in a developmental year which has already seen him miss two weeks.

So you're not going into the season with Tonyan and Lewis as your only two legitimate TEs. One injury and you're done.

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CheesyTex's picture

August 24, 2019 at 02:55 pm

Just sayin': Gute is looking at a very expensive, older tight end who by all accounts doesn't / can't block at a time when he is trying to put together the best possible 53 with very little cap space left.

It would not be surprising to see Gute keep Lazard (big body, as fast as JG, younger, cheaper -- not a TE, but JG not a "true" TE either) or to pick up a serviceable TE at cutdown so he has the $ to fill other areas of need (ILB?).

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Leatherhead's picture

August 24, 2019 at 04:18 pm

James Jones isn't in the lineup to block, and neither is Jimmy Graham. They do other things that make up for any deficiencies they have in blocking.

Jimmy Graham is in there to gash you in the passing game. It's LaFleur's job to help him, and it's Rodgers' job to execute. I guarantee you that not one defensive coordinator in the league tells his team "don't worry about Graham....he's slow...blah blah".

You know, everybody seems to be a fan of Gutekunst's activity in Free Agency; Jimmy Graham is his greatest success so far. You'd think more people would like him.

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Duneslick's picture

August 24, 2019 at 04:57 pm

James Jones retired years ago and was a WR

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hobowilly's picture

August 25, 2019 at 11:22 am

again folks. McCarthy didn't know how to use JG, period. He'll be fine and be a contributor....hopefully even with whatever injury he has. In my view (under the revamped offense) it has been said the TE's and RB's will be utilized more as weapons This will be a diff offense with creative scheming/play calling, including using a FB--by the time GB gets this thing gelling, opposing defenses won't know what to plan for. I hope to see some trickery too and the unexpected. LOL.

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Bure9620's picture

August 24, 2019 at 08:32 pm

Lazard would then need to block, he has never played in-line, TE is a very different position from WR, the transition is not as seamless as many believe.

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Coldworld's picture

August 24, 2019 at 12:01 pm

Looked pretty good in camp actually.

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porupack's picture

August 24, 2019 at 07:38 am

I never want to give any player a pass, or excuse for a whole season of lower-than expected production. But then again, there are a lot of head-scratching and head shaking stats that point a pretty damning finger at the coaching leadership. What was that stat earlier cited on CHTV on Lewis; 3 receptions for 39 yards? Damn. The black plague must have settled in the TE room?

So, we'll see if regime change gives new life to these offensive weapons that had marginally disappointed as of last year; (Trevor Davis, J Graham, M Lewis, MVS, ESB, Jmon, DVitale). So far, we can possibly be seeing early returns on Davis and Vitale.

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porupack's picture

August 24, 2019 at 07:41 am

Unrelated to the article, but I haven't seen any reports on Curtis Bolton's injury. Any updates out there?

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Renllaw's picture

August 24, 2019 at 08:35 am

I read he is supposed to have an MRI today. So no real news that I could find.

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Lphill's picture

August 24, 2019 at 08:08 am

If released , Hello Patriots a team that knows how to use the tight end.

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4thand1's picture

August 24, 2019 at 08:10 am

Gronk was one of the best blocking TE's ever, JG isn't.

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Coldworld's picture

August 24, 2019 at 12:04 pm

BB would have no problem finding a way to win with a guy who had 600 yds in a dysfunctional O, an injured Rodgers and a broken thumb.

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jannes bjornson's picture

August 24, 2019 at 01:04 pm

Graham would be an all-pro with Belichick.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 24, 2019 at 05:07 pm

Graham was an HOFer in New Orleans and Seattle.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 25, 2019 at 11:41 am

Yeah, because it's so hard to figure out how to use Gronk.

Coach #1: Should we throw the ball to that big guy?
Coach #2: Yeah.
Coach #1: Can he catch?
Coach #2: Yeah
Coach #1: Can he get open?
Coach #2 Yeah.
Coach #1: OK. Hey....throw the ball to the big guy.

Graham isn't going to be released. That decision was made months ago when we gave him $5 million instead of releasing him then.

This "non-blocking" meme takes me back to when people criticized Jim Brown for not being a good blocker. I mean, you had to find SOMETHING to diminish him.

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Roadrunner23's picture

August 24, 2019 at 08:09 am

It is what it is. The Packers will use Jimmy G. And he will be a big part of the offense. Will he ever live up to the big contract, no probably not. But as a young GM Gutey has to take a few home run swings, if he didn’t he would be chastised and be compared to old Ted. They will move on next year so let’s just let it ride boys.
Go Pack!

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Leatherhead's picture

August 24, 2019 at 05:10 pm

Comparing him to Old Ted in that regard, Gute has signed 6 FAs to seriously good money: Wilkerson, Graham, Amos, Smith, Smith, and Turner. If you want to include Bell, fine, but I didn't.

Right now, Graham is Gute's best FA pickup. That might be diferent after this year, or not. Wilkerson obviously didn't work out the way we hoped.

You can make big mistakes in free agency.

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ThxJackVainisi's picture

August 24, 2019 at 09:01 am

Graham, Marcedes Lewis, Robert Tonyan, Jace Sternberger, Evan Baylis and Pharoah McKever. That’s the current TE group. Graham can catch but has lost a step and can’t block at the point of attack. Lewis is by far the best blocker but struggles getting open. The last four have a combined 4 receptions and 1 TD in the NFL – that’s of course Tonyan’s stats from last year. I expect Tonyan to emerge as the best of the group but even with his limitations, I think releasing Graham at this point would be foolish. It would only save about $300K in salary cap and make the TE group even thinner. Releasing Graham next year saves about $8M and that's when it should, and I expect will happen. The TE group was poorly used by McCarthy so Graham & Lewis have more to offer than we saw last year but… The Packers are still paying for the mistake of not resigning Jared Cook, but it’ll be another year before that can be corrected.

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meatstyk's picture

August 24, 2019 at 09:11 am

Cut his ass now

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Ryan3468's picture

August 24, 2019 at 02:54 pm

Unfortunately they can’t cut him due to the dead cap space. It’ll run it’s course. A lot of people live off old outdated reputations.

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ThxJackVainisi's picture

August 25, 2019 at 12:01 pm

The reason not to cut Graham isn't "dead money". (According to OverTheCap) If they keep him as most expect, he'll count $12,666,666 against this season's cap (ouch). If they waive or trade him, he'll count $12,333,334 against the cap, saving them a paltry $333K. Since that's a relatively insignificant amount, the reason not to cut him is because if LaFleur uses him better than McCarthy did, he'll contribute. And they lack depth at the position. But he'll count $12M+ against this season's cap no matter what they do with him.

I think it's the net affect on the cap that matters, not dead money (except that dead cap money is obvious evidence of a signing mistake, unless the player suffers a significant injury). For example, if they cut Graham after this season, there will be about $3.6M in dead money on the 2020 cap, but a savings of $8M. Not cutting him then because of dead cap money would be foolish, wouldn't it?

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EddieLeeIvory's picture

August 24, 2019 at 09:16 am

#1 cap hit for NFL TEs?

I liked the addition last year although not if that was an either/or between him & Jordy.

I was disappointed in Graham's work pulling in the high ones. But I know for a fact that DBs got away with grabbing his arm a few of those. Maybe the new instant replay challenges will allow them to be called.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 24, 2019 at 09:41 am

He’s not slow, he’s clearly as good or better than half the starting TEs in the league, and it’s not his fault that he’s overpaid.

Next year it’ll be Tonyan and Sternberger. Enjoy Graham this year, and remember why it’s a gamble to throw big money ar free agents.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

August 24, 2019 at 10:19 am

I have said before I am convinced Tonyan has the better year than Graham. Believe he will have more yards by end of the year. Tonyan is going to be a hell of a player for the Pack this year.

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Coldworld's picture

August 24, 2019 at 12:07 pm

I like having them both. Hopefully once we cease to be vanilla, we will get to see that type of set. Next year Tonyan will be the #1

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jannes bjornson's picture

August 24, 2019 at 01:20 pm

Maybe they draft a TE with a one pick , you never know with injuries. The issue with this team is toughness. Can they gain some edge to win the close games and move into the playoffs?

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Fastenerpuller's picture

August 24, 2019 at 03:21 pm

I believe it when I see it, but I hope you’re right!

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

August 25, 2019 at 11:25 am

My prediction is Rodgers starts off season targeting Graham early and often. Even if Graham finally avoids the injury bug at this point in his career there is only going to be mediocre success with Graham. Here and there with you will start seeing Tonyan making great catches and YAC splitting the middle of the field. Tonyan is already the better blocker than Graham. There will be a gradual transition during the season where Graham may catch more balls but Tonyan ends up with more yards until it eventually becomes clear Tonyan is the better WR.

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Since'61's picture

August 24, 2019 at 10:25 am

I think that if Sternberger and Tonyan are ready to go we can chuck Graham. He is an average/marginal player now.

I would rather have Lewis do his thing as the blocking TE and let Sternberger and Tonyan get their snaps as our receiving TEs.

However I expect that the Packers will keep Graham due to his salary and phase him out as the season goes on and chuck him after the season. If I was Gute I’d be moving on. Time will tell.
Thanks, Since ‘61

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jannes bjornson's picture

August 24, 2019 at 01:21 pm

Big Cap Hit. No value in that move. Tonyan has what 3-4 receptions last season. Graham is clearly the better player.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

August 24, 2019 at 05:17 pm

Yes,
In part why MM is no longer a coach. Let's see JG that is in decline and was the cause for both Rodgers interceptions last year because balls deflected off his hands. Now let's continue to play him with a broken thumb instead of Tonyan. Oh yea, that was brilliant coaching!

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Pierre's picture

August 24, 2019 at 10:37 am

Why resign an older TE on the decline and tie up over 12mil in salary? For the production he had last year it did not make too much sense. Besides blocking not being a strength his hands are not great either. Maybe get better productivity out of him this season however Tonyan is the TE who may prove a better offensive weapon.

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jannes bjornson's picture

August 24, 2019 at 01:24 pm

Why sign Tony Gonzalez and Antonio Gates? They played at a top level into their mid-late 30's. Big Play ability. See if Graham's knees heal this year and LaFleur will actually use the TE in scheme vs. a one-ring circus offense.

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4thand10's picture

August 24, 2019 at 09:35 pm

I have not seen enough blocking out of Tonyan to determine if he could be a better tight end than Graham. Traditionally...all TEs are slower than WRs...so expecting Jordy type replacement on the outside...I was never sold on that philosophy.
Now, some assignment sure 6-800 yards a season... that I was expecting, and he did get over 600...injured and on a new team. Now he has new coaches, but he has experience and hopefully some coaching that knows how to use TEs. His height and shielding defenders while fighting for a ball is still a valuable tool...just not 12.5 million worth.

McCarthy and TED stuck with players way too long and it’s grossly underestimated of how many holes there were on the team at the time of his signing...a price had to be paid. ( look at how long they stuck with Richard Rodgers) A crazy 3rd pick spent on RR.

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TarynsEyes's picture

August 24, 2019 at 10:43 am

There is absolutely no reason to discuss Graham. He is in limbo...hasn't done anything to help/hurt the team in any significant manner other than salary cap this season as yet.

I would've been fine moving on from Graham as like with other players who were part of what ailed us or didn't fit the new culture. Which come Week 1 needs to show much more than has been witnessed, regardless of being ' preseason ' vanilla or any other flavor one wishes to describe it as being.

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jannes bjornson's picture

August 24, 2019 at 01:27 pm

That argument was over five months ago when they paid his signing bonus of 5M. He's part of their plan and his deal is part of Gutekunst's legacy.
Time will tell if it was a reach.

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Lare's picture

August 24, 2019 at 01:37 pm

I suspect the Packers plan for Graham to play a pretty significant role in LaFleur's offense otherwise they wouldn't have paid him all that money.

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Ryan3468's picture

August 24, 2019 at 02:34 pm

Jimmy Graham is basically worthless. Proof is in the pudding. A tight end that doesn’t block is a wide receiver. Jimmy Graham now is old and too expensive to cut otherwise he already would be. That dead cap space he would cost insures he is on the roster. I’m looking forward to him being retired or someone else’s problem. Packers would be better suited to only using him in the red zone. Treat him as a red zone specialist. Catch it or bat it out of the end zone. It’ll all be contested 50/50 balls which Rogers doesn’t even like to throw. Jimmy Graham is a “Fantasy Football” wonder. Draft him and wonder where your points are? I wonder why you are playing fantasy sports to begin with.

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Rudedawg67's picture

August 24, 2019 at 04:08 pm

I think the Packers have to keep Graham even though I think they overpaid for him. Could have retained Jared Cook for less money and is a better TE at this point in time than Graham is in my opinion. Hopefully Graham will find the magic again and make this a top 5 offense this year.

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4thand10's picture

August 24, 2019 at 09:39 pm

They overpaid at several positions due to neglect. I think others were very right when they said last year that it would take 2 years to right the ship.

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Doug Niemczynski's picture

August 24, 2019 at 09:38 pm

I will be keeping track of my boy!!

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August 24, 2019 01:40 AM

Lions' T.J. Hockenson: Gains 52 yards on three catches

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Hockenson caught three of four targets for 52 yards during Friday's preseason game against the Bills.
He dropped a pass, but Hockenson was otherwise a standout performer while the Lions' starting offense was on the field. The longest of his gains went for 32 yards. Seemingly an important part of the Lions offense, Hockenson is expected to be the receiving complement to the blocking-oriented Jesse James in 2019.

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4thand10's picture

August 24, 2019 at 09:45 pm

I watched the game, he was in for well over a half....With Stafford in for a whole half. Detroit had most of their starters in all the way up until half time....there were 4 injuries. And it was the Bills. I was not grossly impressed with his play. I’ll compare his stats to Graham’s as well. :-)

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4zone's picture

August 25, 2019 at 07:21 am

Graham rides out this season, then will be gone. Tonyan will be our next starting TE with Sten as hopefully a solid #2 by then. We will continue to rake the UDFA market and late rounds for potential but I don't see nother high pick or high dollar FA signing any time soon.

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WinUSA's picture

August 25, 2019 at 08:08 am

How many folk give Graham a pass based on his history. The guy has dropped more passes that would be unacceptable for any TE and he still makes the team. Broken thumb last year, broken finger this year. Blocking? A fricken joke. Does anyone expect this gut to block better this year in a run oriented offense? I almost choked on my tongue when the Packers gave him 12M in February. How the roster would look today if they had this money spent on this “has been” if they would have drafted a blue chip TE instead of a “project” Gary, in the first round and saved the cash given to Graham. (Who the H picks a “project” at a number 12 draft position?????). If Graham is so “great” try to trade him for a need position player. My bet is there will be NO takers what so ever. When management finally wakes up Graham will join Josh Jones and some other team will pick him up for a song!!!

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