Cory's Corner: Davante Adams Left Green Bay Out Of Fear

The top wideout in the NFL was worried he wouldn't get the numbers without Aaron Rodgers. 

There is no denying that Davante Adams is one of the best wideouts in the game. His route-running is flawless, his hands are amazing and he has great speed and amazing instincts as well. 

But this really surprised me from Adams on Thursday. “I got aspirations of doing really, really big things and being remembered, and it just wasn’t really a point in my career that I was willing to sacrifice Aaron (Rodgers) not being there after a year or two.”

I read through that a couple times and the one word that kept coming into my mind was stats. Not Super Bowls, titles or wins. 

Adams wanted to play with his former college teammate in quarterback Derek Carr. Going to Las Vegas is much closer to where he grew up in Northern California. Those things are all fine and good. 

But what I’m reading is that Adams left Green Bay out of fear. He left because he was afraid that Rodgers was going to retire after 2022 or 2023 — which very well may be the case — and he would not achieve the same numbers. 

Adams will turn 30 in December. The Raiders gave him a five-year, $141.25 million contract. They expect him to play like a top five receiver for the majority of that deal. 

But if Adams was afraid of Rodgers not staying in Green Bay for the duration of his deal, does he need to change his Raiders expectations? I think Carr is a solid quarterback, but he’s not on the same field as Rodgers. In eight seasons, Carr has averaged 3,962 yards, 24 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. He has had a completion percentage over 65 four times. In 17 seasons, Rodgers has averaged 3,256 yards, 26 touchdowns and five interceptions. He has had a completion percentage over 65 eight times. 

Adams knew that he wouldn’t have been able to keep up his level of play if Rodgers wasn’t there. And it’s not because of anything team related, it all comes back to what Adams himself was able to do. 

I can’t say that I don’t get it. NFL money, especially at a complementary position like wide receiver, is completely based on individual stats. That focus shifts when you talk about quarterbacks, because then, rings and leadership get brought up. 

Even if Rodgers was able to stay for another five years, it was probably best that Adams went elsewhere. The Packers want to win now. They are tired of tallying 13-win seasons and advancing to NFC Championship Games. They want to bring home another ticker tape parade to Green Bay.

Seeing Adams succeed was a byproduct of all that winning. That doesn’t take away from what Adams accomplished or what kind of an amazing athlete he is. 

You can covet the receptions, receiving yards, touchdowns and catch percentage.

But just remember one thing: the team always comes first.

 

 

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Cory Jennerjohn is a graduate from UW-Oshkosh and has been in sports media for over 15 years. He was a co-host on "Clubhouse Live" and has also done various radio and TV work as well. He has written for newspapers, magazines and websites. He currently is a columnist for CHTV and also does various podcasts. He recently earned his Masters degree from the University of Iowa. He can be found on Twitter: @Coryjennerjohn

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

June 11, 2022 at 06:52 am

Cory I read into that statement myself, however this is what I interpreted:

1. Adam's wants a gold jacket
2. That Rodgers most likely is with the Pack 2 more years
3. Adam's isn't sold on Love

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Lphill's picture

June 11, 2022 at 07:06 am

Yes I agree , Adams was not impressed with Love it seems.

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Leatherhead's picture

June 11, 2022 at 09:28 am

Knock, I think a more charitable explanation is that Adams grew up a Raiduhs fan, and he thinks his chances of earning a gold jacket is better with them than than Green Bay. That’s his choice. Maybe he’s right, and maybe he’s not.

Not a “fear driven” decision, imo. He’s a man making decisions about his future. He thinks the grass is greener in Vegas.

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dobber's picture

June 11, 2022 at 09:51 am

I think any one of us would dream of the opportunity to work where we want to work with people we want to work with for obscene gobs of money. I don't fault him at all.

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SpikeHyzer's picture

June 11, 2022 at 02:57 pm

Agree on #3. Also believe Davante has already secured the Gold Jacket, so it was pointlessly stupid to leave.

If you take out Rodgers 1st 3 seasons and his 2 seasons vastly shortened due to injury, he's actually averaged 4200 yards and 35 TDs (though his INT average goes up to 6.66).

The stats above make them look like identical QBs (in fact making Carr look WAY better in average yards, the same in TD average, and way worse in INT average). And Carr would likely throw for the same amount of 65% seasons if you double his total to what Rodgers has played.

But the real difference is staggering, as shown by Rodgers' 13 point advantage in QB rating.

Which is why Davante made a HUGE mistake.

The next 2 years of Rodgers are likely to have helped him more than 5 with Carr will (especially if Davante suddenly drops off in production like Julio or OBJ, or if Carr throws him a bad ball that causes him to reach and get injured).

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Omcbob's picture

June 12, 2022 at 12:31 am

Someone needs to advise DA that there isn't an "I" in team

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greengold's picture

June 11, 2022 at 08:22 am

Whatever. He wanted to get his big bag of cash and to play with Carr. He got both. Adams wanted out, and he’s West Coast.

I’m really happy with what the Packers did to realize a return in trade. Looks like they made the most of it, bringing us both Quay Walker & Christian Watson, which I think yields a better return. We’ll see.

FYI - off subject, TCM in airing “Grass,” a documentary on the Bakhtiari, an impoverished nomadic tribe in Iran. Sunday, late night. It is considered one of the earliest ethnodocumentaries ever made. Just thought it was interesting and wanted to share.

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Rarescope's picture

June 11, 2022 at 07:27 am

Ohmergosh Greengold, you’re really showing your age here- still watching regularly scheduled programming that isn’t live sports? How twentieth century of you :D

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greengold's picture

June 11, 2022 at 08:15 am

All the time…! LOL.

Rarescope, the funniest part was I considered posting only the TCM doc info on the Bakhtiari…

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Leatherhead's picture

June 11, 2022 at 11:37 am

You think that's Old School? I still read books.

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Spock's picture

June 12, 2022 at 03:14 pm

Ditto. PAPER books (my wife is into the e-book stuff. I've tried them. Hate how hard it to just page back for something I wanted to re-read.).

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Oppy's picture

June 12, 2022 at 04:22 pm

Not recreational reading, but work documents- I prefer having a hard copy for actual reading, and also have a digital copy pulled up on a monitor so I can use a PDF reader's search and find tools to quickly locate key items.

I'm sure we're biased because physical books are what we grew up with, but there is undeniably something about script on pages in hand that leads to increased comprehension and.. feel.

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stockholder's picture

June 11, 2022 at 07:21 am

It adds up. No Doubt. But like John Jefferson. Adams isn't what he use to be. Rodgers demands perfection. Adams wanted money and to play with CARR.
I also believe, he didn't want to renegotiate that contract later. (Because of the Cap hell in Green Bay. )
He gave the Packers his best, and a brighter future. The younger guys have to be paid. Wish him well. And don't look back.

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NickPerry's picture

June 11, 2022 at 08:13 am

"The younger guys have to be paid. Wish him well. And don't look back."

Absolutely right on the money! Well said SH...

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Oppy's picture

June 12, 2022 at 04:27 pm

This "Adams isn't what he used to be" thing is off.

He's arguably the best WR in the game. Top 3 without much argument.

I don't think the Packers should have kept him for the price he was going to command, but to say he's lost something in his game is silly.

You've never been an Adams fan, I get it. I remember once you said he wasn't a great WR because all of his yards were run-after-catch. What?! lol. You've always had a knack for trying to dull Adams' shine.

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Rarescope's picture

June 11, 2022 at 07:25 am

Meh gotta talk about something in the off-season. Looking forward to watching some football this fall, with a little more reason to watch one of my backup teams in the Raiders. Hope they can field a solid oline so that we can see what the new dynamic duo can do together.

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murf7777's picture

June 11, 2022 at 07:27 am

I think Adams is a class act, always with a great attitude and work ethic, even when he might’ve had some concerns. Even thou he is a class act, for a couple of reasons, I’m happy he is on his way to the AFC.

1. He takes his enormous talent to the AFC
2. We are now a more balanced team because of it. Without the SC savings, I doubt we sign Douglas or Campbell. In addition, we added two high end Georgia defensive players. I say two because if we didn’t get the extra two draft picks I think we would’ve traded up and went WR with the 1st round pick in the draft. Lastly, we now have the potential of THE top defense in the NFL. Yes, I stated top. When you look at the defense throughout, they look as good as any of the best. Who else in the last two years have an All-Pro CB and LB in addition to pro-bowl lineman with two highly rated edge rushers. Gary is going to explode this year. He has progressed every year and barring injury he will be a top 5 rusher IMO.

We have our best chance for the SB this year because we traded Adams. GPG

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SpikeHyzer's picture

June 11, 2022 at 02:59 pm

Packerswire had a good piece on Gary that shows he's already top 5 EDGE. His win rate and pressure rate are both in the top 5, even if his sack rate isn't. He's helping others get to the QB and the hurries are meaningful.

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ApplesAndTons's picture

June 11, 2022 at 04:28 pm

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NickPerry's picture

June 11, 2022 at 07:28 am

"There is no denying that Davante Adams is one of the best wideouts in the game. His route-running is flawless, his hands are amazing and he has great speed and amazing instincts as well. "

Absolutely, Adams is one of the greatest WR's in Packers history, and when you talk about Packers history, you're talking about a franchise with a long history of GREAT players. But IMO "Davante Vision" has harmed the Packers and actually is the REASON the Packers haven't been to and won the SB the last 2 years.

In 2020 Adams was targeted 23 times for 18 receptions, 133 yards, 2 TD's and an YPC average of 7.4.. (2 Games)
In 2021 Adams was targeted 11 times for 9 receptions, 90 yards, 0 TD's and a YPC average of 10.0... ( 1 Game)

Personally I find those number rather pedestrian. I mean those aren't stats which make you look twice or would EVER compare to some of the NFL's great WR's come playoff time. I mean lets compare those stats to Sterling Sharpes ONE playoff appearance in his career..

In 1993 Sharpe was targeted 15 times for 11 receptions, 229 yards, 4 TD's and a 20.8 YPC average... Now THAT'S Greatness!! Both Adams and Sharpe were very similar in the fact their QB's both looked for ONLY them in big moments or in Rodgers case ANY moment. IMO and it's MY opinion Sharpe was a much better WR than Adams. IMO Sharpe should be in the HOF but that's a different argument.

I say all that to say this...The Packers are BETTER OFF now that Adams is in Las Vegas. Just like Farve had to, Rodgers is going to have to look elsewhere. He's going to be FORCED to spread the ball around. There should be NO MORE 1st and Goals from the 8 and 3 straight passes to just ONE WR. There should be no more throwing into triple coverage with WIDE OPEN WR running underneath. In other words, he's going to be FORCED to play the MLF offense the way it's its MEANT to be played.

I don't give a damn anymore why Adams left and personally I'm happy as hell the Packers aren't on the hook for a contract like that. Had they signed him they'd be without Deandre Campbell, Rasoul Douglas, Jarie Alexander under contract for 5 more years, Quay Walker, and probably Christan Watson. Oh yeah, and the $16.7 million in cap space the Packers currently have.

Lastly...Common Cory, you called Adams fast...When was the last time you saw Adams run AWAY from a defender in the open field. He ALWAYS was caught from behind. Can't wait to see what Doubs and Watson do with an open field. Adams was great and I wish him well, but the Packers are going to win the SB because they no longer have Davante Adams!

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

June 11, 2022 at 08:13 am

Nick,
Fantastic post!

Everything I had thought of as well but didn't have the time or energy to write.

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10ve 💚's picture

June 11, 2022 at 08:43 am

Snot! I was thinking the exact same thing, (about the "thought" as well as the time and energy), and you beat me to it!

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NickPerry's picture

June 11, 2022 at 09:43 am

Thanks friend...I can be long winded at times!

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Since'61's picture

June 11, 2022 at 09:06 am

Nick excellent post as usual. 2 points I would add.

1. Unfortunately Sharpe's career did not last long enough for him to make it to the HOF. Not his fault.

2. Favre had Mike Holmgren to guide him through the transition from Sharpe to other receivers as you correctly mention. I'm not sure if MLF will be able to do that with Rodgers as well as Holmgren did with Favre. Rodgers has more experience now than Favre did when Sharpe went down so he should be able to adjust mostly on his own. We'll see, but Mike Holmgren was our best HC since Coach Lombardi.

Thanks, Since '61

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NickPerry's picture

June 11, 2022 at 09:57 am

Hey Since '61... Totally agree with you about Holmgren AND his being the best HC since Lombardi. I still wonder what might have been had Holmgren stayed longer than he did.

As you've mentioned Farve was wasn't as experienced as Rodgers is...Kinda the like the old saying, "Can't teach an old dog new tricks". Lets hope Rodgers isn't too old of dog and MLF can at least open up the possibilities of new tricks.

One thing Rodgers has going for him is he REALLY is smarter than many. There's nothing he hasn't seen or probably did on a football field. He's had to spread it around (7-0) before without Adams, just like he had to without Jordy Nelson one year. Hell, he just about beat a Cardinals team with Jeff Janis and Abbadaris.

I like MLF and I think he's been a coach who's learned more these last 3 years than he did his entire career so far. I believe this is the year we really see how good MLF is.

It's a shame about Sharpe. He was absolutely amazing and for what he accomplished in 7 seasons is HOF worthy IMO but you're right, it was cut short and it's not his fault.

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Since'61's picture

June 11, 2022 at 01:14 pm

Nick I appreciate the good feedback. I think that Rodgers will be OK spreading the ball around. I’m guessing he will throw to the RBs earlier in the season until the new WRs learn their roles in the offense. Also, assuming that Tonyan returns healthy that will give Rodgers another solid NFL target.

As for Sharpe he needed to reach 10-12 seasons and he would have been a lock for HOF. But as we know injuries are part of the game and numerous excellent careers have ended prematurely. Stay safe. Thanks, Since ‘61

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NickPerry's picture

June 12, 2022 at 07:34 am

Dead on about the RB's IMO Since... I think we'll see much more of Dillon and Jones on the field at the same time. When we saw that at times last season it was very successful.

I think Jones will be out wide A LOT this season with Dillon in the backfield. It's going to be interesting.

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10ve 💚's picture

June 11, 2022 at 08:55 am

Nick, thanks for a great read!

And also thanks for always making sure that you take care of grammar, spelling and format. It makes it so much easier to read. 👌👌👌

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dobber's picture

June 11, 2022 at 09:48 am

"I say all that to say this...The Packers are BETTER OFF now that Adams is in Las Vegas. Just like Farve had to, Rodgers is going to have to look elsewhere. "

Favre was still a young QB in his formative years at that stage with a coach who could handle him. No doubt that the dynamic needs to change in GB now, but I'm iffy about the pieces in place. It's LaF's time to shine...he's going to have to scheme and play-call WR open without a guy like Adams who demands extra help on just about every route, and opens up big chunks of field for the other WR.

" But IMO "Davante Vision" has harmed the Packers and actually is the REASON the Packers haven't been to and won the SB the last 2 years....Personally I find those number rather pedestrian. "

It's a dynamic that won a lot of regular season games against NFL teams, but becomes easier and easier to defend as the quality of opponent (and coaching) week-in and week-out gets better and better in the playoffs. When you're playing Madden or a first-person-shooter video game, you have a go-to play or weapon because it works pretty much all the time--until it doesn't. I don't fault Adams for having the ball thrown to him a lot. He doesn't control that part, but for the most part did his job and did it at a high level.

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GreenBaySmacker's picture

June 11, 2022 at 01:18 pm

Agreed Sharpe>Adams no doubt. And such BS that he is not a HOFer. Especially considering it was because of injury his career was cut short and not his own free will or lack of production.

Sharpe is actually hands down the best Packer receiver I have ever witnessed and probably will ever witness. And at the time of his retirement he was putting up better numbers than Jerry Rice who is widely considered the best of all time.

Top 4 I've ever witnessed in no order:

Jerry Rice
Sterling Sharpe
Randy Moss
Calvin Johnson

To the topic of the article I was never mad at Adams for leaving for whatever his reasons are. That's his choice. Kudos to the Packers for accommodating him when they technically didn't have to. Not to mention getting 2 premium picks in return for someone who wanted to leave that's pretty damn good if you ask me.

I wonder if the story of the Packers offering him more money was all part of the plan to secure value in return for Adams but who really knows. Don't really care. Adams is gone. Let him go. Like you said Nick and I've said all along, the Packers and A-Rodg will be better without him. Thanks for everything and best of luck #17.
Moving forward.

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Since'61's picture

June 11, 2022 at 01:19 pm

Smacker I would add James Lofton to your list. Also Raymond Berry, Paul Warfield, Fred Biletnikoff and Charles Taylor. There are many, many more who deserve consideration as well but there is a long list of great NFL receivers.
Thanks, Since ‘61

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GreenBaySmacker's picture

June 11, 2022 at 07:52 pm

'61 I'm familiar with Lofton and I know he was great. It's just that I did not personally get to witness him or the other names you mentioned. That is what my list is based on. The greats I have seen play. No disrespect to those you mentioned.

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Rossonero's picture

June 11, 2022 at 01:28 pm

Great post, Nick. I will add that while "Davante Vision" may have been ONE reason the Packers have not won a SB these past few years, I would not go so far to say that it's been THE reason. The special teams have been a dumpster fire for years and it finally caught up to them in the loss to the Niners. Yes, the offense stunk against a great SF defense, but at the same time, special teams cost us 10 points on the blocked FG and then the blocked punt for the TD.

Otherwise, I agree with everything else you said.

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cheezyone's picture

June 11, 2022 at 03:30 pm

WELL SAID N. P.

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Packers0808's picture

June 11, 2022 at 07:45 am

Gut feeling here that Adams doesn't crack top 10 in receptions this coming season and if he does barely! My guess for his own greediness he made the wrong choice, but for GB a real blessing in disguise. Makes you wonder if Rodgers didn't see this and why he as he said didn't try to recruit Adams, because he saw what had happened!

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10ve 💚's picture

June 11, 2022 at 08:45 am

I hope you are right. Even if you are not right, I'm still glad that Adams left, because what we got in return was much more than what we lost.

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marpag1's picture

June 11, 2022 at 08:40 am

Oh for shit's sake, can everybody please stop with the psycho-babble BS? "Ooh hey, let me just use my sharp-as-a-razor, self-proclaimed insight to penetrate the inner workings of Davante Adams' mind so that I can reveal to you the hidden secrets of what he is truly thinking, which may or may not be based on anything that the man is actually saying..."

Dude wanted to play for the Raiders. So that's what he did. What is hard to understand? If we want to read palms, tell fortunes and predict the future we should set up a booth at the carnival.

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10ve 💚's picture

June 11, 2022 at 08:50 am

You're right Marpag!

But the reason why I come to CheeseheadTV.com is because they are ALWAYS Homies. Reading their articles makes me feel good. Deep down, I may know that sometimes it is BS, but its the right type of BS.

Take it in that spirit, and be happier 😁

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Since'61's picture

June 11, 2022 at 09:02 am

If we're going to set up a booth to read palms and tell fortunes shouldn't we do it at Lambeau field every Sunday.

Much larger crowds than a carnival and we get 2 shots. One on the way in and the other on the way out. If we wait until they have a few/several brews we can get them to believe anything we tell them and charge them what ever we want. I think that would be a more profitable operating model.

Of course we could supplement the season revenue with a permanent booth at Titletown or whatever it's called and hit the carnival circuit during the offseason. Good thinking marpag this could go league wide and turn out to be yet another money grab for NFL. Goodell the soothsayer!!! Thanks, Since '61

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dobber's picture

June 11, 2022 at 09:32 am

By many accounts, Adams has wanted to play with Carr for quite some time. So...good for him?

I'd rather spend my time worrying about the WR who might play for the Packers this season....and after all the WR fretting that's been going on, it's pretty far down my list.

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Packers0808's picture

June 11, 2022 at 11:51 am

Deletion.

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Packers0808's picture

June 11, 2022 at 11:16 am

Guess what you just did on what you are ragging about.

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Turophile's picture

June 11, 2022 at 11:58 am

If you change the emotionally charged 'left out of fear', and 'afraid', and replace it with 'left because he felt it was in his best interests', then I might be more inclined to read what you have written.

As it is, I looked at the title and never even read the rest.

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dobber's picture

June 11, 2022 at 09:33 am

...then you missed the cool part with the zombie attack in the middle. It was quite unexpected.

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Turophile's picture

June 11, 2022 at 11:57 am

nice one Dobber
I'm actually listening to a D&D adventure (Arcane Arcade) on youtube as I read this, so it resonates.

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dobber's picture

June 11, 2022 at 04:01 pm

Strategically placed because I've been clocking your habits for months now...

Put some pants on for God's sake!

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Turophile's picture

June 12, 2022 at 01:47 am

Stop looking down there, I AM wearing pants, but they're on my head.

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Leatherhead's picture

June 11, 2022 at 09:36 am

I am glad that we have Quay Walker and Christian Watson on rookie contracts for the next several years instead of Adams at $20+ million a year. I like what Adams has done for us, but this is better now.

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HarryHodag's picture

June 11, 2022 at 10:17 am

...and even better Campbell and Douglas, whose contracts were possible because they didn't spend the money on Adams. I have no hard feelings for Adams. He did the thing every single one of us would do...take the money, plus he found a better living situation.

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dblbogey's picture

June 11, 2022 at 10:44 am

actually Green Bay offered him more money. It had nothing to do with money, for a change.

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Swisch's picture

June 11, 2022 at 12:18 pm

Harry, if I happened to be an elite football player, it would be hard for me to play for any other team than the Packers,
I guess that would be considered eccentric by almost everyone else, but it's true.
Back in the fall of 1973, when I was age 11, I played youth football in Wheaton, Illinois. The team from the town next to us, Glen Ellyn, wore a replica uniform of the Green Bay Packers.
In the meeting between the two teams, I had a frustrating game. What surprised me was when my dad asked me if I had trouble playing my best against a team that looked like the Packers.
I couldn't blame my off day on the field on that as an excuse, as it never really entered my mind. However, it's an indication of how much I loved the Packers growing up that my dad would bring up the possibility.
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It was that same year in 6th grade that we had to make a decoupage on wood as a school project. I used a photo of Bart Starr from a magazine cover, even though I had been too young to ever see Starr play in a game.
I don't understand why I was so devoted to the Packers, as my dad was more of a casual fan, and we didn't live in Wisconsin after I was age 3. My dad seemed baffled by it.
Anyway, I retired from football after my freshman year of high school, so I'm nowhere good enough to be a pro; but if I was, it would be a dream come true to be a Packer.
If the Packers paid me anything close to a reasonable salary, and treated me well, there's no way I would leave.
I guess that's why I get so upset when our QB seems to disrespect the team and thus tarnishes its legacy.

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LambeauPlain's picture

June 11, 2022 at 10:18 am

And the Pack has Campbell and Douglas back and has locked up Alexander the Great. I doubt any would have been back with Adams' cap swallowing contract on ledger.

And the Packers are a better team with those 3 vs replacing them with Adams, IMO. And I believe the odds are good the O will be even better this season with more potent balance.

NFL receivers in their 30's often experience a sudden rapid decline on the stat line which Adams ironically seems to covet.

Adams didn't want to be in Green Bay. I am fine he has gone away.

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TarynsEyes's picture

June 11, 2022 at 10:21 am

"They are tired of tallying 13-win seasons"

No, they aren't and neither are the fans, as that winning seasonal record is the pacifier that allows the screaming of failure to be muted, and could be claimed that having a Division Title is the priority as witnessed yearly for so long by the many different ways a playoff collapse transpires every year without fail. It's as though failing is the plan and the reason or manner is plucked off the Wheel of Misfortune.

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HarryHodag's picture

June 11, 2022 at 10:22 am

"Even if Rodgers was able to stay for another five years, it was probably best that Adams went elsewhere. The Packers want to win now. They are tired of tallying 13-win seasons and advancing to NFC Championship Games. They want to bring home another ticker tape parade to Green Bay." -Cory J.
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Adams for sure would help toward the 13 game winning season. What isn't said is Adams, if he stayed, would have had 'what if' in the back of his mind. While the national media cry about the Packers losing Adams it is not a fatal loss. I think you will see a more diverse offense with Rodgers less likely to go off script.

One other point to Cory: don't assume 13 wins and a division title is a given. As a veteran(as a few others are on this board) of the dark decades from the '70's and the '80's, winning should never be assumed. The difference between the really good teams and the really bad teams in the NFL isn't that great. The difference is consistency and an organization focused on winning first.

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Leatherhead's picture

June 11, 2022 at 11:34 am

"Don't assume 13 wins and a dvision title as a given".

As a veteran of the Long Dry Spell from 1972-1992, I can assure everybody that winning your division and making the playoffs every year is better than having a losing record every year, or being 8-8 over and over ('Eight and eight, that's our rate, we think it's great") under Forrest Gregg..

You have to make the playoffs to compete for the Super Bowl. Currently, 7 out of 16 teams in the NFC make the playoffs, almost half. Although Wild Cards have won the Super Bowl, it's usually a division champion that wins it all, and since it's easier to plan for 3 teams than 31, you should focus on winning your division. And we do.

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TarynsEyes's picture

June 11, 2022 at 12:23 pm

"and since it's easier to plan for 3 teams than 31, you should focus on winning your division. And we do."

When the Division is practically handed to you yearly, surely a point of emphasis must be applied to the plan for the playoffs, which seems to escape the HC, FO, and the QB with the ease as a wave of the hand of worry with a Division Title.

The ease of a Division Title handed to the Packers is the reason they perform with such a cavalier attitude and why they are sent home with the same result and false resolve for the next season. Rinse-repeat a losing objective is not a diet for real success, but it can satisfy the hunger of the blind optimist or those whose pot-o-gold rests with a winning season record.

Time is running out, not only to win the SB with Rodgers but to justify and support the cavalier playoff character of this Org as the Division Title likely becomes lost again to another more often than not. I cannot buy into the future mantra ' All You Need Is LOVE' many will chant if another failure comes again this season under Rodgers at QB and/or MLF as HC. A failure this year will have adverse effects on this team going forward, or rather backward.

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Leatherhead's picture

June 11, 2022 at 07:21 pm

I’m not sure how a “plan for the playoffs “ works. We don’t know who our first round opponent is and we have no idea what kind of shape we’re going to be in by January. But I do know you have to get to the playoffs. You really, truly believe the reason we’ve lost in the playoffs is because the division is too easy? Seriously?

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TarynsEyes's picture

June 11, 2022 at 08:26 pm

Yes, I believe the Packers have a lackadaisical approach to much of the season because of the ease of winning the Division, which gets you a playoff advantage as you speak of. The problem is they don't or can't shake that lackadaisical mentality and have self-convinced themselves the playoff teams should be as easy as the division teams. We see it in their demeanor and between possessions and sideline behavior. They have no killer instinct against a killer instinct opponent.

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croatpackfan's picture

June 11, 2022 at 10:39 am

Aaaah, Davante and Aaron are, I suppose, friends,,, Isn't it strange that 2 friend didn't talk about where they will work next year? Or they are really friends just for the public.

I do not think that decision to go to Raiders have anything to do with Jordan Love (you can put any other young and unproven QB here!), but with the knowledge that Packers were in playoff 5 time (6 if you count DA rookie season) with him and AR. Maybe DA came to similar conclusion as many of us came after the last loss - conclusion is that is in vain to try failing effort with same settings over and over, hoping it will succeed.

But what was my first impression after I read the article, Cory, is: "Jesus, no, no another excuse for the highest paid football player in the world or other culprit instead of him."

My experience and my opinion in this matter is that it is more useful and with huge % of success to change the thing is to honestly say to everybody what is needed to be said. If someone is will be offended by critic of himself, it is his problem. That is how you keep accountability (this word is especially dear to AR) of everyone.

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Rarescope's picture

June 11, 2022 at 01:18 pm

“ Isn't it strange that 2 friend didn't talk about where they will work next year?”

Go watch Arod’s interview from minicamp - I believe he said they talked about it a lot.

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wildbill's picture

June 11, 2022 at 10:57 am

Sad that Adams didn’t mention any goals but individual stats. That says a lot about his character in my opinion. Will always be part of our “Packer Family” but if he thinks going to one of the toughest divisions in the NFL will get him closer to the Super Bowl, then I want some of what he is smoking. But hey it’s all about his stats isn’t it?, the gold jacket seems worth more than the ring…..

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marpag1's picture

June 11, 2022 at 11:51 am

When did Davante Adams say anything at all about stats? The only person I've heard talking about stats is the author of this article.

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SpikeHyzer's picture

June 11, 2022 at 03:06 pm

How is Davante talking about career goals and the gold jacket NOT about stats?
It's about stats. He wants to be HOF. He's not focused on Super Bowls.
It's VERY clear.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

June 13, 2022 at 03:23 am

I agree with Spike and the author. Perhaps Adams thinks the Raiders are contenders to win the super bowl. Absent that, I think HOF and career stats are a reasonable inferences.

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jhtobias's picture

June 11, 2022 at 11:57 am

I personally respect Davante as a player and a man .. He did everything right while he was here in Green Bay and truly was a dominant player for 2 to 3 years.

As for the pecking order of Wide Receivers in Green Bay history I'm obviously was never around for hutson, reminder a little about James Lofton, but in no way shape or form could he have done what Sterling Sharpe did in his career with Green Bay . Sterling was in my view the most complete dominant receiver every and look at the teams he did it with compared to Davante . Not to take a shot at Davante but facts are facts.

I'm sure most remember when Sterling had to retire the packers went to the nfc championship game and then one the superbowl the following yr. Favre learned to spread the ball after sharpe retired. we shall see with this team

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Tedlyflyfisher's picture

June 11, 2022 at 01:01 pm

I think you’re reading something into Tae’s statement that wasn’t said, Cory.

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Rossonero's picture

June 11, 2022 at 01:36 pm

When it comes to Davante Adams, I can't help but think of the scene in the movie "Moneyball" when intern Peter Brand is talking to Oakland A's GM Billy Beane after the A's are getting gutted in free agency by big money clubs after making a playoff run on another shoe string budget:

Peter Brand: "There is an epidemic failure within the game to understand what is really happening. And this leads people who run Major League Baseball teams to misjudge their players and mismanage their teams.

Billy Beane : "Go on."

Peter Brand : "Okay. People who run ball clubs, they think in terms of buying players. Your goal shouldn't be to buy players, your goal should be to buy wins. And in order to buy wins, you need to buy runs. You're trying to replace Johnny Damon. The Boston Red Sox see Johnny Damon and they see a star who's worth seven and half million dollars a year. When I see Johnny Damon, what I see is... is... an imperfect understanding of where runs come from. The guy's got a great glove. He's a decent leadoff hitter. He can steal bases. But is he worth the seven and half million dollars a year that the Boston Red Sox are paying him? No. No! Baseball thinking is medieval. They are asking all the wrong questions. And if I say it to anybody, I'm-I'm ostracized. I'm-I'm.... a leper. So that's why I'm cagey about this with you. That's why I... I respect you, Mr. Beane, and if you want full disclosure, I think it's a good thing that you got Damon off your payroll. I think it opens up all kinds of interesting possibilities."

To that end, I think it's a good thing we got Davante Adams off our payroll. It opened up all kinds of possibilities, like being able to keep DeVondre Campbell, Rasul Douglas, and allowed us to draft Quay Walker and Christian Watson. If anything, now was the time to sell high on him -- a 30 year old WR who's at the top of his game, when these WR contracts are getting stupidly out of control.

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TarynsEyes's picture

June 11, 2022 at 02:05 pm

Yes, and the Packers, hopefully, will reap any benefits from Adams leaving in spite of the FO doing all they could to prevent it from happening. Will the Packers be worse off without Adams? I don't believe so. But the chances of being better off are greater without him, just from the Rodgers/Adams connection being severed.

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Rossonero's picture

June 11, 2022 at 03:16 pm

Exactly. I like their chances -- to run the ball more (which we hear Nagler talk about all the time on Cheesehead TV) -- and spread the ball around. There are other ways to win in the NFL, and that's what we're about to see from the Packers (as well as a top 10 defense).

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GreenBaySmacker's picture

June 11, 2022 at 08:40 pm

This is, and has been Bill Belicheck's formula for a while now. It's worked out pretty well for him I think. He lost his HOF QB though. Which the Packers just so happen to have one of those.

Protect your HOF QB. Run the ball well. Dink and dunk to a variety of speedy receivers who can get open. Good pass catchers out of the backfield. Productive TEs. Top 10 or at least top 15 defense (preferably top 5). Finally, special teams that isn't horrible (hopefully Bisaccia has that under control for them now).

Outlook for the Packers on paper seems primed for glory as long as the young bucks learn the system in a timely fashion. As well as key players get and stay healthy.

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Rossonero's picture

June 11, 2022 at 08:47 pm

100% Smacker. People get way too hung up on "oh my goodness what will the Packers do without Adams??" The goodness about this situation is the rest of the NFL and sports talking heads are about to find out how the Packers can -- and will win -- in different ways that have not been seen before. And that stuff is not on tape yet, which should help the Packers to be harder to game plan for and to defend against because opposing teams can't rely on last year's tape and all those plays where Adams was involved.

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GreenBaySmacker's picture

June 11, 2022 at 08:55 pm

Exactly Ross. Defenses will have no idea who to key in on as far as the passing offense is concerned. They could have a different stud each week. I'm sure at 1st they'll try to key in on stopping the run. Until Rodgers starts lighting them up from all angles.

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dobber's picture

June 11, 2022 at 04:07 pm

"Yes, and the Packers, hopefully, will reap any benefits from Adams leaving in spite of the FO doing all they could to prevent it from happening. "

I think we've all tried our damnedest to do something or make something happen, failed, then ended up 1000x better off because we didn't get what we really thought we wanted/needed.

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SpikeHyzer's picture

June 11, 2022 at 02:52 pm

Corey, the stat comparison between the two players makes them look almost identical and needs some perspective (it appears as though Rodgers has averaged significantly less yards per season and that Carr is TWICE as interception prone). The TD numbers are almost identical, and if Carr had played 17 seasons, we might assert that he will double his 65% seasons and have the same amount as Rodgers then. The TD average total is almost identical, but that, along with the yardage is where the deception lies.

Quite simply, Carr was a full time starter from day one.
Rodgers was NOT.

You have to throw out the first 3 seasons for Rodgers in order for his season averages to be accurately reflected (he's not a 3200 yards a year guy).

If you subtract the 300 odd yards Rodgers threw for in the first 3 seasons and divide his career total by 14 seasons, he's at about 3930 yards per year. Almost exactly the same as Carr (and if you subtract 4200 more and divide by 12 because of his 2 seasons deeply shortened by injury, Rodgers goes up to over 4200 per year, significantly better than Carr).

Additionally, if you remove the ONE TD pass Aaron threw in his first 3 seasons, dividing his new career total of 448 by 14 leaves us with 32 per season (34.58 if you eliminate his 2 injury seasons). His INT total actually goes UP to 6.57 when removing his one INT in the first 3 years and dividing by 14 (6.66 if you eliminate his injury seasons).

The way you presented it makes them look nearly identical and actually makes Rodgers look significantly worse in terms of yards average and TD average. In his full or near full 12 seasons, he's 4200 yards and 35 TDs per year.

This shows in his QB rating, almost 105, to a very pedestrian 92 for Carr.

Carr is not that good. Davante actually shot himself in the foot with this one, and it's sad to see him stat hunting instead of ring hunting, but 2 more seasons of Rodgers would have helped him more than 4 or 5 with Carr will (and he could just drop off the table like Julio Jones or OBJ or get injured trying to snare an off target pass from Carr).

I also agree with the first poster above that this is also a HUGE indictment of Love. Davante must not see anything there, even if I'm not sure they shared that many practice reps.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

June 11, 2022 at 09:01 pm

I was hoping more for a "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas" but my view is that Adams was simply making a business decision. (However, if Rodgers was more like Hunter S. Thompson - I would find him eminently more likable). But back to Adams and reading between the lines - my conclusion is that Adam's conclusion is that he thinks he can no longer win (in the playoffs) with Rodgers. Of course, he's not going to say it - instead opting for a fresh re-start, with his college QB, on a relatively good team, closer to home and probably better money. So "fear," no. Plus I wonder about a WR going across the middle on NFL defenses, for years, being prone to fear? However a practical business decision based on inside information - more likely.

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Irish_Cheesehead's picture

June 13, 2022 at 09:54 am

I just want to see his face when Lazard and Watkins are hoisting the Lombardi in February.

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GreenBaySmacker's picture

June 13, 2022 at 04:29 pm

Lol right on

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