Cory's Corner: Aaron Rodgers Cannot Be Camp Distraction

Veteran players will not want to keep answering question about Rodgers' 2021 season and beyond. 

I know you are all tired of it.

The Aaron Rodgers situation has been like the weird uncle that continually eats all of your food, sleeps on your couch and takes complete control of the TV remote. 

Rodgers has done all of those things while staying away. That’s pretty amazing stuff right? Well, when you’re Rodgers, you can say a lot without saying anything at all. In the Kenny Mayne tribute interview in May, Rodgers artfully used sidestepping to remain coy about what exactly is going on. 

And that’s what I don’t understand about all this. Rodgers has allowed this whole thing to fester and grow and get worse. He has allowed national pundits to feed on this ever growing monster that has somehow gotten bigger even though nobody really knows what the heck this is all about. 

And why is that? It’s because Rodgers has never put his hands in the air and said, “Hey, all eyes on me. This is why the offseason was like this.” The moment that happens is the moment a lot of people will be able to understand him better. But as we all know from Packers president Mark Murphy he’s a “complicated fella.” 

And that’s the wrong foot to start on with veterans set to report to training camp on the morning of July 27. Because how excited do you think veterans will be giving diatribes about this situation after the second day? This situation has gotten old with fans really fast and you can be rest assured that players aren’t going to want to talk about it either. 

Will Rodgers show up? I sincerely think he will. Not because he will be fined $50,000 per day if he doesn’t. But I think he will show up with something to prove. Remember, his offseason schedule was filled with everything except football and many will want to know if he shows up to camp rusty or ready to roll. 

This will be Rodgers’ 14th season as the Packers starter. I think he just wanted to recharge his batteries and get away from football after another bad playoff taste lurked in his mouth like when you take a gulp of milk and later discover that it’s expired.

This is still Rodgers’ team. He is the three-time MVP. He can do things on a football field that many NFL players can only dream of. Rodgers can literally make an oblong piece of pigskin dance, float and gyrate as it falls into the waiting arms of its intended target. 

Rodgers is that good. I think he’s the best pure passer this league has ever seen. Is he the best quarterback? Nope. That honor would go to a different  No. 12 that plays in Tampa Bay. Tom Brady has been willing to put the team over himself and he has been awarded seven times with fancy finger candy. 

Is Rodgers willing to do those things? I think he could do those things, but obviously we don’t see it. Brady has been busy throwing to teammates and trying to get timing down, while Rodgers was climbing cliffs in Hawaii. 

Rodgers is the best chance for the Packers to win a fifth Super Bowl. However, there’s a balance between doing everything you can to win a championship and sucking the marrow from life with fun and excitement. 

Does Rodgers need a full offseason? Probably not. However, being a great quarterback doesn’t mean just being able to spot and throw open Davante Adams. It means understanding how long Allen Lazard can get open from press coverage, it means understanding how important it is to play with a true slot wideout in rookie Amari Rodgers. 

Training camp is finally here, but Rodgers made this offseason seem like a decade. The time can easily melt away when the questions surrounding Green Bay’s indecisive future Hall of Famer stop. 

 

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Cory Jennerjohn is a graduate from UW-Oshkosh and has been in sports media for over 15 years. He was a co-host on "Clubhouse Live" and has also done various radio and TV work as well. He has written for newspapers, magazines and websites. He currently is a columnist for CHTV and also does various podcasts. He recently earned his Masters degree from the University of Iowa. He can be found on Twitter: @Coryjennerjohn

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Harold Drake's picture

July 24, 2021 at 06:28 am

It's Saturday morning and I can't be bothered to refute the many nonsensical arguments made by CJJ. His obvious resentment towards Aaron Rodgers has clouded his judgment to such an extent that this article warrants outright dismissal as pure disinformation.

But one of the writer's most absurd statements is that Tom Brady deserves to be considered a better QB due to his ability to put his team over (sic) himself. What utter nonsense! Rodgers has taken a home-town discount for years compared to the massive salaries paid to inferior QBs. Futher, Rodgers has always praised his teammates on a consistent basis and is currently fighting against management (i.e. the Gutey-Murphy regime) that does not value loyalty with respect to Rodgers and other Packers' players. If one wishes to argue that Brady is a better overall QB, then argue on the basis of his seven Super Bowl wins and leadership abilities. But I would counter that with the fact that New England has fielded winning teams with superior defensive units than almost any unit that the Packers have put together while Rodgers has been leading the team.

Finally, I find it laughable that CJJ considers himself an authority on quarterbacking and is lecturing Rodgers when it comes to "not merely [spotting and throwing to an] open Davante Adams" and understanding when and where Lazard is open on pass routes. WTF???? CJJ doesn't have one-millionth of the kind of knowledge and level of comprehension that Aaron Rodgers has when it comes to understanding the capacities of his WR corps. CJJ should be writing about something other than football.

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Irish_Cheesehead's picture

July 24, 2021 at 06:44 am

Rodgers has taken a home-town discount?? When he signed his last contract, he was the highest paid player in the league at the time.

"Rodgers and the Packers agreed to a four-year, $134-million contract extension that can be worth up to $180 million if he hits all his incentives, per ESPN. Rodgers gets $67 million in guaranteed money by the end of this calendar year, and he’ll eventually make $80 million total by the start of the new league year on March 17, 2019."

You need to find a new place to shop if you think that's a discount!

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Harold Drake's picture

July 24, 2021 at 08:56 am

Objectively, over the last decade, a quick review of highest paid QB salaries shows that Rodgers has been paid an average of 20% less that the highest-paid QBs in the NFL. Further, the ink had barely dried on his latest contract when several other teams began signed their QBs to deals which exceeded the average annual salary of Rodgers - Matt Ryan et al.

But of course that was only one minor aspect of my critique of JennerJohn. You choose to ignore the substance of what I was saying which is both intellectually dishonest as well as indicative of a recognition that your dislike of Rodgers is based on anger that he chooses to stand up to Packers' management.

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Coldworld's picture

July 24, 2021 at 09:18 am

Contracts go in cycles, Rodgers is now in the middle of one so has slipped as he did during his last one. So that is about where one would expect him to fall. Plus he agreed to a highly front end loaded current deal. Net present value of money means it should be worth more in hand early than merely headline numbers. Congratulations, I don’t always agree with the writer but you are certainly making a good argument for him this time.

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Irish_Cheesehead's picture

July 24, 2021 at 04:24 pm

It's not intellectually dishonest nor indicative of a recognition that my dislike of Rodgers is based on anger that he chooses to stand up to Packers' management. I'm just calling out your bullshit facts. 😄

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fastmoving's picture

July 24, 2021 at 07:17 am

Corey its a big AR fan, you should know that. Other than that makes his post a lot of sense. Brady played for less and had not much weapons over the decades. He did a lot with short slot guys, made them famous. He did more in the play offs and he is the best at high age. Nobody will beat that anytime soon. And he had one of the greatest WH pressers ever..... Hard to hate a guy like that.
AR may be the better passer and is more athletic but he is more of a Diva as well and had some downseasons as well. And dont like his trust issus either......
But in the end I very thankfull we had such a lot great years and always the chance to go all the way. AR was a big part of that. So he is my guy but I can see his flaws as well. I would be ok with Love as well, thinks he can be great too.....

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Harold Drake's picture

July 24, 2021 at 09:06 am

Dear Fastmoving,

I agree with you that Brady's White House appearance with Biden in which he mocked Trump was brilliant. I also think he is the GOAT but in terms of pure QB ability I would rank Rodgers higher. Brady has nerves of steel and I fear that Rodgers suffers under pressure which would explain his failure to produce a TD in the last few minutes of the NFC final against the Bucs. He is as much to blame for that loss as is Kevin King, Pettine, and LaFleur's pitiful decision to kick a FG instead of going for it on 4th down. I know that Aaron Nagler and others love to point out that there is only a marginally better statistical win rate for opting to go for a TD as opposed to a FG under the circumstances but such data cannot account for having one of the best QBs ever to play the game - i.e. Rodgers - leading the offense on such a 4th down play. This is what undermines the logic of LaFleur's decision. But I digress...

Yes, Rodgers is a diva and his passive-aggressive behaviour of the past several months is disappointing, but clearly Packers' management has alienated him for absolutely no reason and that is the source of the current impasse.

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NickPerry's picture

July 24, 2021 at 09:53 am

" LaFleur's pitiful decision to kick a FG instead of going for it on 4th down."

Maybe, maybe not. Considering Rodgers had gone 3 and out on the last 2 turnovers created by the defense. Gone 0-3 with a first and goal from the 8 AND having Davatevision on 2n id and 3rd down incomplete passes from the 8 yard line, OR failing to at least try and run for the end zone with a open field in front of him.

I'm looking at the play, frozen on my 65 inch TV. Had Rodgers just BROKE for the end zone he would have made it... Adams was double covered, between both players who were facing forward. Advantage Rodgers for beating those two to the pylon. Devon White and another CB were doubling Lazard who BOTH had their BACKS toward the Pylon. NO WAY would they catch Rodgers. When Rodgers broke forward and was at about the 13 1/2 yard line JPP was at the 11 but I'm 99% certain Rodgers beats him to the corner of the end zone.That leaves the Bucs defender covering MVS in that corner. That defender was BEHIND MVS which again, Rodgers has an advantage.

So was MLF really that crazy to kick a FG? With the Defense playing really well in the 2nd half? NO!

BTW.. Please TELL me what it is the Packers did that was horrible to Rodgers. Considering Rodgers hasn't said shit, how in the hell does anyone know?

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greengold's picture

July 24, 2021 at 10:55 am

Yeah, Nick, this is well said.

I don't blame LaFleur for taking the FG, if AR wasn't running the plays he wanted run. He killed most of them in the 4th quarter. AR wanted all the glory by throwing when his HC wanted him to run, most likely.

As for the Packers FO, I feel they deserve little blame in this. AR went out of his way to assign blame to them on the biggest of stages, to the widest national audience, and everyone is supposed to lap that up as the truth? BS. That guy is so full of himself. The Draft Day grenade into the Packers War Room was telling. He clearly orchestrated that. Schefter wouldn't have done it without his blessing. No way. And, the statement has remained uncontested to this day.

It was an ambush on the Green Bay Packers, on a very important day for the team. I think Gutekunst and his staff handled it as well as they could.

He becomes engaged, then does a TOTAL 180° on the Packers. We all see it.

IMO, the Packers have done their due diligence in leaving the door open for him to return and fulfill his end of the bargain and the front loaded contract he signed, happily. Now he wants to vilify them, unjustly. What were they to do?

I don't buy any of this BS that they had to reach out to him before taking JL. The draft moves swiftly. That was outside his pay grade. Plus, my guess is drafting his successor was brought on more urgently by his actions being a malcontent.

Don't forget, AR let that SF NFCC game get completely out of control. First 3 drives he's throwing 2:1, all resulting in punts. Finally, the 4th drive he gives Aaron Jones the rock on a heavy dose and we start moving chains. What does he do then? Fumble the snap.

The very next drive, #5, down 13-0, he starts his pass-happy garbage, and tosses an INT, resulting in a score for SF, making it 20-0. Do you think Matt LaFleur drew it up that way?

AR finishes out the game throwing at least 5:1, ending our hopes with yet another INT. The damage had already been done. He wore his own defense out on top of it. I can see why they drafted Jordan Love.

GOAT? Michael Jordan? Really?

Mark Murphy calling Aaron Rodgers "complicated," was nothing more than an acknowledgement that his time in GB is over. It was an answer to his highly publicized slam of the Packers Front Office on the last Kenny Mayne broadcast at ESPN, two weeks prior. Game over.

Now, the ball is in the Packers court, and AR can twist himself into whatever ball he wants to contort himself into. The Packers Organization is in a position of power, and can make him sit his ass for a year, or two if they like. I'm hoping they trade him just before the deadline for a boatload. If that is the path Davante wishes to pursue, they can deal him too to add to the haul. Hopefully, to a different team like the Raiders.

For all we know, they trade Davante away to the Raiders while Aaron Rodgers sits out... getting all the cap relief that would come with such a scenario. Two can play that game. The Packers are in control.

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NickPerry's picture

July 24, 2021 at 12:35 pm

I agree with much of what you said, hell maybe all of it to some degree. I DO think the Packers perhaps should have told Rodgers they were drafting Love but that's it, just a heads up which Gute has said he could have handled differently.

Gute said that publicly. If that's not a "Hey, Aaron Rodgers, I'm sorry" I don't know what else is nor do I know what the hell Rodgers wants. Now I've heard he's feels MLF throws his players under the bus, or that's what one Packers podcast felt he thought. Again, WTF. Rodgers was DEAD in the Mike McCarthy offense and even in 2019 when Rodgers still ran what HE wanted to run, he wasn't all that impressive.

Rodgers has LOST a lot of Packers fans since draft night. SO MUCH of this could have been avoided, he'll he may have even got his wish to be traded (thought we STILL haven't heard that from his mouth), IF he just said something. I have little respect left for Rodgers and to this point have wanted him as our QB this year and if possible beyond. I'm at that teetering edge where even that is no longer true.

IF Rodgers wants to sit out the year let him. Green Bay would still have 3 years of contract control of Rodgers, they don't lose a year. Jerry Juedy, Bradley Chubb, and a couple of ones and twos sounds awesome but that's pricey. Maybe Noah Fant, Juedy, three 1sts and 2nds just may do it.

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Coldworld's picture

July 24, 2021 at 08:10 am

It’s always hard when a hero is passing, I get it. Share your grief but perhaps try to consider that others are neither perfect or prohibited from expressing an opinion, whether player or poster. I will do my best to view your post in the light of fandom not fact.

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Harold Drake's picture

July 24, 2021 at 09:11 am

Dear Coldword,

Thank you for your patronizing remarks but I hate to remind someone like you who advances ad hominem arguments rather than thinking logically that Rodgers is the NFL MVP and had his best season ever statistically (or second best, I am not certain). So it makes little sense to suggest that he is currently in a state of irreversible decline.

I am also not grieving at all since he will either be playing for the Packers this season or wind up leading another team to the Super Bowl. Brett Favre also enjoyed one of his greatest seasons ever when he led the Vikings to the NFC championship. My posts are rooted in fact rather than fiction and Mr JennerJohn is engaging in dubious speculation at best and disinformation at worst. Go Pack Go!

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Coldworld's picture

July 24, 2021 at 09:22 am

Baseless certainty and flawed argument generally makes it difficult to respond without critiquing approach. I have no issue with you challenging the author. I understand and share your frustrations—we all thought this was Rodgers best chance to win it in years. But I fundamentally disagree with your rationale from that point. Emotion is understandable but seldom helps prove a point.

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Irish_Cheesehead's picture

July 24, 2021 at 04:30 pm

Favre gave me one of the greatest gifts of al time when he threw that pick in the NFC championships game. That made all his BS flip-flopping worth it! 😄

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PeteK's picture

July 24, 2021 at 09:49 am

Cory is simply giving his perspective on the Rodgers drama. The following comments he makes about this drama are factual: he gives us the best chance to win, is allowing this drama to fester, and it's starting to affect the team as proved by the reluctance of Adams to sign an extension.

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Packerpasty's picture

July 25, 2021 at 12:01 pm

they are pro's, they aren't worried about what Rodgers says or does, the media on the other hand will be a huge distraction with constant questions about Rodgers...and so Adams can't think for himself?? If he see's what the organization is doing with Rodgers why would he not take note of that??

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PeteK's picture

July 25, 2021 at 03:03 pm

So when a star like Rodgers leaks that he wants out , you expect the media to ignore that. The FO really disrespected a 36 year old QB by bringing in a young raw talent that needs a few seasons to possibly develop. While at the same time guaranteeing 98 mill. Please somebody disrespect me like that !!!

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jannes bjornson's picture

July 24, 2021 at 12:18 pm

The only Camp Distraction will be the Fans.

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NickPerry's picture

July 24, 2021 at 12:56 pm

I'm sorry friend but I totally disagree with that and would say it even if Rodgers wasn't acting like the DIVA he truly is. Rodgers doesn't compare to Brady where it matters...Championships. Brady had Bill Belichick which is huge. But I don't think Rodgers would have lasted as long with BB as Brady did if the roles were reversed.

The last two extensions Rodgers signed made him the highest paid player in the NFL so I have NO IDEA when this "Home Town Discount" you speak of ever happened.

Brady is 34-11 in playoff games, Rodgers is 12-9.

Since the 2011 season Rodgers is 7-7 with 4 loses in the NFCCG.

Since 2011 Brady is 20-6 with 4 SB WINS! In what universe is that a better QB. understand from a "Pure Passer" standpoint Rodgers may not have any rivals. But to Quote the late, great Vince Lombardi..."Winning isn't everything, it's the ONLY thing".

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Turophile's picture

July 24, 2021 at 07:01 am

Rodgers may not be much of a distraction on the field, in the locker-room or in the various film rooms (assuming he shows up to TC), but outside the facility the media will be following his progress, comparing it to his own performance of the previous year, to Loves's growth this year, speculating on his future, etc, etc. To do this they will ask questions about AR to EVERYBODY, team-mates, coaches, ground staff, front office.

Therefore to say he cannot be a camp distraction is like shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted. Even if AR himself acts as normal, even if his team-mates treat him the same as usual (as I expect they will) the media will hype things up and ask the same questions about his future continuously, and to everyone remotely connected with 1265 Lombardi.

Look at it from the media point of view. AR stays with the Packers and plays this year...........this is an outcome that is not especially newsworthy. However, if Rodgers moves team or retires, it is a huge story. Which possible outcome do you think the media prefers to push ?

As for a home discount, why ? His play has resulted in his salary. Fans who want him to take less would be outraged if they were asked to take less money to allow their firm to employ more people, more cheaply. I know AR earns a great deal of money, but that is because he is as good a QB as you can find. If you were the best among architects, for example, you would expect to charge plenty for you services.

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Renllaw's picture

July 24, 2021 at 10:09 am

" Fans who want him to take less would be outraged if they were asked to take less money to allow their firm to employ more people, more cheaply. "

This argument looks good upon 1st glance. But in reality it just isnt close to applicable. If you are making $50k, $60k, even $70k a year and a company asks you to take a pay cut for the team... they are literally asking you to take food off your table... The ability to do special things for your children... cut back on vacations... etc. All while that companies CEO makes MILLIONS.

If you are a top paid athlete on a contract with money that most families would set up generational wealth with... And their executives likely makes less money than they do...... I think going from 20 Mil a year to 15 a year on a 4 or 5 year deal to bring in more talent.... Yeah, no comparison.

This is NOT me saying they SHOULD take pay cuts.. Free market baby! This is just saying your comparison is invalid.

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NJMagic's picture

July 24, 2021 at 12:00 pm

I don't think we expect him to take less, but perhaps most of us are frustrated when every year the Packers are cast in the media about wasting his years and not building a competitive team by buying high-priced free agents...

And they're in cap hell because they spent on this window.

You can only do so much in FA when you're paying Aaron this much. I think that is the dissonance for fans, not his actual contract.

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jannes bjornson's picture

July 24, 2021 at 12:32 pm

The media storyline is accurate.

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ricky's picture

July 24, 2021 at 06:53 am

Why isn't Rodgers clearing up the situation? Because he is enjoying the situation. Whether it is to make the front office suffer for choosing Love, or some other issue or issues, Rodgers is having a good time watching everyone try to analyze and parse his every word and action. And HaroldDrake, you take some unnecessary jabs at CJJ, who is doing his best to keep things going on this site until training camp starts, and some real news can be offered. CJJ does have a point- while Brady works with his WR's and takes reps during the offseason, Rodgers has been relaxing and recharging. Will he have enough time to gain some chemistry with Amari Rodgers, or will this be something that will have to be worked on during the season? Or will this once again be "Adams first, then see who is open." And as far as Rodgers taking a "home town discount", that is delusional. He was the highest paid QB in football when he signed his new contract, and the Packers (apparently) offered to make him the highest paid QB in football with a contract extension. If you're looking for a QB who takes a "home town discount", you'll want to look southeast and another #12, who currently just got his seventh SB ring. At least partially because he was willing to take less to help the team.

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Packerpasty's picture

July 25, 2021 at 12:05 pm

you people who are Brady lovers obviously don't follow all of his story much...he did the same thing to New England that Rodgers is doing now...he also snarled at WR's during games, didn't get along that well with his coach and when he got to Tampa he more or less demanded that they bring in a bunch of his fav players, which they did, much different than the Packers did for Rodgers...yup I get it "Brady the saint, who's wife makes it easy to take less money with all her zillions"....

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PeteK's picture

July 25, 2021 at 02:44 pm

We're not Brady lovers, but Rodgers lovers who are looking at the facts. All are minor nuisances when compared to the threat of not reporting to camp this late into the off season. Brady left NE with little drama.

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ReaganRulz's picture

July 24, 2021 at 07:03 am

Whether he plays or not, this will be an ongoing distraction. Is this his last year? Will he play for the Packers in 2022? Will he retire forever? What team should he be traded to? All of these questions plus a gazillion others will continue…..UNFORTUNATELY!! If he doesn’t play this year, he should be ashamed for his behavior that will let all of his teammates down!!

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Guet's picture

July 24, 2021 at 07:08 am

Giannis makes Erin Rodgers look like a douchebag.

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PeteK's picture

July 24, 2021 at 10:10 am

Hahahahaha, great timing!

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Packerpasty's picture

July 25, 2021 at 07:10 pm

would you have said that if he had forced his way out because Bucks FO didn't go get some help that he wanted?

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Guet's picture

July 26, 2021 at 11:20 am

that's one of the more stupid questions ever stated - its a hypothetical that never happened? If you are alluding to something else, than state that. You are as passive aggressive as DOUCHEBAG ERIN Rodgers.

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NashvilleCheesehead's picture

July 24, 2021 at 07:22 am

I will always love the Packers. I just don’t like this team right now.....

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stockholder's picture

July 24, 2021 at 07:55 am

The Drama in Green Bay is great. Everyone is adding Fuel to the Fire. The NFL wants Rodgers out of GreenBay. Nobody will win the division, if he's here. Thats just a fact. The bears still suck. The Lions can't get off the pot. And the Vikings shoot themselves in the foot. When Rodgers gets here he'll come to play. And every member on this team knows it. So lets Just RELAX!! If it's about money. Theres the Door. But it isn't. Rodgers is special. We need him. When he was drafted, it became a marriage. You take the good with the bad.

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Oppy's picture

July 24, 2021 at 11:07 am

Jordan Love was drafted,too.

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Break7bg's picture

July 24, 2021 at 07:57 am

I love this TEAM with or without 12. If 12 plays and stays, they are Super Bowl-bound. If he leaves or retires, they still win! We just do not know how far Love can take them, yet. Eventually, he will.

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Coldworld's picture

July 24, 2021 at 08:26 am

Back when Favre came in and then went to the Jets we had the same discussions. People tend to hate change and this is happening for reasons that defy the strength of the roster and are not being explained. That makes it worse for many, even if the primary object of their allegiance is the team not the player.

I suspect that like most QB jumps at the end of their career, this will eventually be looked at as a mistake by Rodgers, but he could prove me wrong and he’s earned the right to make that choice. If he goes, resigning Adams at 30 and well over the franchise tag cost makes little sense. Era ends bring change. This one will end prematurely solely because Rodgers doesn’t like something. Right or wrong it’s that simple and his choice.

Personally, I can see, if Rodgers returns, a trade of Adams this year as an option. Adams is not at fault, Rodgers is moving the team a different way, but if Rodgers favors him excessively or ignores others, Adams will be easy to move. Rodgers not so much given his apparent willingness not to play for us and likely most teams. Change us upon us. Until Rodgers tells us why that’s all we know and we just have to live with it and learn to love Love’s growing pains. The odds are pretty even that the team will move on from Rodgers this year.

Brady is not the QB Rodgers is in terms of ability. However, he is a much better on and off field tactician. If Rodgers’ physical prowess declines he’s not going to have the extended career that Brady has had. He’s also not going to get away with as much personal preference on his downside as he has here.

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PeteK's picture

July 24, 2021 at 10:20 am

Case in point Brady's no drama departure from NE. He handled it with class.

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greengold's picture

July 24, 2021 at 08:05 am

Some may see AR and DA posting Jordan/Pippen on their Instagrams simultaneously as a sign of their return. I doubt that happens.

Regardless, I’m tired of all the BS. Give the kid the rock and let’s go. This Packers team is built for the run.

GPG

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Coldworld's picture

July 24, 2021 at 08:52 am

It strikes me as odd that so many see the post as the last dance will happen as opposed to has happened. It would be a shame for Adams to leave this year after his poor play in the championship game. He now has to be considered as a trade piece.

Rodgers and Adams happy are great, but Rodgers handling of Adams may cause a problem now. I doubt Adams will, but the QB is the catalyst. Of course, the Packers could just decide to start Love. Trading to start the big rebuild early could follow. Thanks Mr. Rodgers.

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Roadrunner23's picture

July 24, 2021 at 08:20 am

To late

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JohnnyLogan's picture

July 24, 2021 at 09:25 am

Rodgers may have had legitimate arguments with the FO and maybe they made mistakes. He's probably right in thinking they drafted Love and planned to trade Rodgers after the 2021 season. So what? That's sports. That's business. A guy plays great for his career, but he gets old. Some people can't accept getting old. Usually narcissists.

The FO making mistakes, if they are that, doesn't negate Rodgers's childish ego-driven handling of the situation. He's a grown man and a superstar with leverage. Sit down with management and find a solution. You've played for this team for 16 years. The entire fan base is invested in you. Your teammates love you. You have a championship-caliber team. A mature individual recognizes that.

Instead, we get this passive-aggressive grinning man-bun-wearing clown who has failed in four championship games but still seems to think he's on a level with Michael Jordan.

Now Rodgers has infected Adams. When last seen Rodgers and Adams failed three times after the defense gave them the ball in the final minutes of the HOME championship game they had been clamoring for. Rodgers wants us to forget that. He wants us to focus on his statistics, his great plays, he wants us to proclaim him the GOAT despite his lack of bling.

He also wants us to not recognize that his young coach revitalized his career. He wants ALL the credit, the glory, and the power. He's an egotistically driven wanna-be Hollywood rock star and should be shown the door.

Lombardi would have already booted his ass. And Adams as well. Yes, these are different times, but prima donnas have existed since even before Antony and Cleopatra, two similar vain soap opera characters who elicited more scorn than admiration.

Send Rodgers and Adams to Denver for. a King's ransom and let's begin the Love era.

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Packerpasty's picture

July 25, 2021 at 07:12 pm

So he "infected" Adams?? Apparently Adams can't think for himself?? hmmmm

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JohnnyLogan's picture

July 26, 2021 at 02:30 pm

Likely he can but I’m guessing it was Rodgers’ idea for them both to post The Last Dance poster simultaneously so just maybe Adams is being slightly influenced when “thinking for himself .”

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Packers0808's picture

July 24, 2021 at 09:38 am

One sentence in this article stands out,Rodgers throwing to an OPEN Adams, from last playoff game we all know what happens when Rodgers forces throws to an UNOPEN Adams! So take that where it may take you!

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Roadrunner23's picture

July 24, 2021 at 09:40 am

Too much BS drama, time for someone in the FO to stand up and end all of this nonsense!
But that’s not going to happen is it?!
Packers management has botched this one and now here we are. It is time to trade both of these clowns, not that it’s all their fault they have been entitled by the front office. It’s time to get what we can for these guys and rebuild, This team isn’t going anywhere with it supposed leaders acting this way. Get what you can now, get the salary cap back in line and MoveOn.

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JohnnyLogan's picture

July 24, 2021 at 10:42 am

Amen. And just to show them how much we enjoyed their drama trade them to different teams.

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Coldworld's picture

July 24, 2021 at 11:33 am

I don’t really see what you want the team to do at this point. Are you really surprised that negotiations with Adams, who has made it clear he wants top dollar for what is very likely his peak contract (fair enough) when we don’t know if Rodgers will turn up or, conceivably, they do know he’s gone by 2022 when Adams contract will kick off.

As for Rodgers, if he’s not playing for a reason truly related to the organization then is it a good one? How do you know? I don’t. He could just want to go to the West Coast as some believe. Quite conceivably Rodgers demands are unreasonable. I can not see anything that the Packers have done publicly that would reasonably justify running away from the best roster in a decade or disrupting it. Perhaps it’s private or perhaps it’s the workings of an inflated ego. Until we know we are just guessing. You may suspect Murphy and co. I’d normally agree except for the lack of visible wrong. For that reason I think it’s on Rodgers and we are the butt of his pique. But I could be wrong.

Either way, the team holds the cards at this point, certainly Adams doesn’t and Rodgers has to make the next move. The team will run Love at starter in camp and likely would have mostly anyway. Rodgers must show or get fined (he likely doesn’t care). He may be hoping Love bombs, but he should remember how he looked in his first preseason. The team will, fans may panic, but the FO doesn’t care. Otherwise it’s will he turn up before camp ends. By then the team will be heading in the Love direction. And on it will go.

If Rodgers turns up then it gets interesting. One tactic would be to trade his rights to another team he doesn’t want to go to with Adams and eat his salary. It’s not going to hurt Murphy, helps the cap. How inventive and determined are they? Rodgers sits but not at Lambeau. At that point the disgruntled can be off loaded (many likely will be as they will mostly be older).

My point is, the team holds the cards, there is no valid visible reason for this and that the logical move in those circumstances is to do nothing and wait. Pert if that is not committing to a blockbuster contract with Adams, which in fact, might give some leverage to Rodgers. However this came about, as much as I distrust Murphy (who is the one person who has said (a little) too much, the team is behaving as it should at this point. The fact that it doesn’t placate fans is neither here nor there. Since we know nothing, that’s justified. Only time will tell where the blame lies, maybe.

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13TimeChamps's picture

July 24, 2021 at 12:23 pm

I still haven't ruled out SF as a landing spot at some point during the preseason or season.

1. They've already shown they're interested.
2. Probably Rodgers best shot at a SB outside of GB.
3. It was where Rodgers wanted to be drafted initially.

I've never really bought into this Denver thing. Too much has been made of his fiance's connection to Boulder. She's not from there. She was born and raised, and still lives in, California, as does her mother, who she is extremely close to. From what I can tell, she owns some property there that she wants to EVENTUALLY build on.

As they say....you heard it here first.

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Savage57's picture

July 24, 2021 at 09:51 am

AR's fallen in love with attention and drama and doesn't give a tinker's damn who gets caught up in the wash.

If the issue is the Packers, tell it and sell it. Quit with all the silence which is only serving to unsettle a team which should be nothing but as it enters a season with the goal of finally reaching the summit of the NFL, and not being satisfied with an attempt at it.

People, culture, history. Those are elements a lot larger and more important to this team and its fans than solely how you interpret them and they affect you,

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PeteK's picture

July 24, 2021 at 10:46 am

Exactly, Rodgers makes it sound like the Packers would have thrown him to the gutter if he got hurt and couldn't play to his previous high level. It is about the people that's why he received 57 mill up front and 98 guaranteed in his last contract.

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Swisch's picture

July 24, 2021 at 10:40 am

Do we really want Rodgers as quarterback for the Packers if he only comes back because he doesn't have any other good options for this season?
Will he really have the right mind and heart to lead the Packers to a Super Bowl?
Unless there is some unexpected breakthrough in this situation to the good, I really hope the Packers trade Rodgers to relieve us of this inscrutable and frustrating and wearisome melodrama.
I'd be glad for one first-round draft pick and a top defensive lineman. Just get it over with.

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13TimeChamps's picture

July 24, 2021 at 12:41 pm

"I'd be glad for one first-round draft pick and a top defensive lineman. Just get it over with."

Finally a realistic expectation for what he will probably bring. These crazy scenarios suggesting multiple starters PLUS multiple high draft picks for a soon to be 38 year old QB with a not insignificant injury history. I just can't see that happening. Well maybe if Bill O'Brien was still a GM in the league.

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Swisch's picture

July 24, 2021 at 01:59 pm

Unburdening the Packers from the albatross of Rodger's contract would be a big relief -- along with the huge addition by subtraction of removing the enigmatic source of the interminable melodrama
To find a team (preferably in the AFC) that would take that obligation off of our hands and give us something like the above deal seems like a bright new tomorrow.

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PeteK's picture

July 24, 2021 at 10:49 am

There's something happening here, what it is ain't exactly clear, there's a man with a few hundred million over there, telling me I've got to beware

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JohnnyLogan's picture

July 24, 2021 at 11:03 am

I think it’s time we stop…

There’s battle lines being drawn
Nobody’s right if everybody’s wrong

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Swisch's picture

July 24, 2021 at 12:45 pm

Ironically, this song (strangely titled, "For What It's Worth") has been seen as an inspirational protest against the Vietnam War, but it was really about the seemingly trivial matter of a curfew in 1966 that affected night clubs in Los Angeles on the Sunset Strip of Hollywood (see Wikipedia).
Along these lines, I wonder if Aaron Rodgers has some as yet untold noble purpose in his holdout, or if it's some trivial matter of a perceived personal slight.
Should we be singing labor union songs in sympathy for Rodgers taking on management in a heroic struggle on behalf of all the workers of America?
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The real labor struggle in the NFL right now is coerced vaccinations on athletes who apparently have almost zero risk of health problems from COVID. (No such incidents reported yet.)
After a year of the NFL posing as an advocate of athletes, it's now crushing their rights regarding the vaccine, apparently without any significant dialogue.
Has Roger Goodell met with Cole Beasley and DeAndre Hopkins to listen to their concerns about vaccines that are largely untested and have apparently been the cause of some 6,000 reported deaths in America already (see the CDC)?
So it seems that the players are in reality just slaves to the powers that be of the NFL. No amount of posturing by these wealthy rulers of on behalf of the false front of BLM (which is more accurately described as Bullies, Liars, Marxists) is going to hide that ugly truth of oppression.
If we as fans truly care about the players, then we should truly care about their right to refuse experimental medical treatment when their risk of harm from the related disease is almost nil.
Should they even have to say whether or not they've been vaccinated as a matter of privacy?
Plus, aren't those others who are vaccinated protected in any case? Or maybe not, if the vaccine isn't all that it's claimed to be?
What insanity this is, and how horribly unfair!
There's something happening here that is clearly tyrannical.

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PeteK's picture

July 25, 2021 at 03:22 pm

As to your view on vaccinationsI , I guess you were daydreaming during the lessons on ratio and percentages in your math education. "So lean upon him gently and don't call on him to save you from your social graces."

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Swisch's picture

July 25, 2021 at 05:45 pm

I'd be glad for your explanation, Pete, of how you think ratios and percentages applies to the current vaccination situation.
My best guess is that 99.98% of people under age 50 survive COVID. I think that would be 9,998 out of 10,000.
I would be glad for reliable numbers, but I'm not confident that the government provides them. If a person has terminal cancer but dies having COVID, I don't know how that gets listed.
It seems healthy people don't die from COVID. I don't know of any.
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I don't know of any NFL players who have died from COVID, or have been seriously harmed. Not one.
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The vaccination process was apparently made much shorter and so with less testing. There's no way to know the long-term effects.
If vaccines on the general population started in January, it seems we would only know how the vaccine works for the intervening period of about six months. One could also look at the previous trials going back perhaps a year, if those trials were done well.
Apparently, 6,000 people have already died from the COVID vaccines, and the reporting system may not be that reliable (perhaps only voluntary reporting, for example).
From what I understand, the vaccines are not fully approved by the government, but only approved on an emergency basis.
Also, the pharmaceutical companies cannot be sued if the vaccines have bad consequences at present or any time in the future.
If the vaccines are so certain to be wonderful, why can't people sue the pharmaceutical companies if they cause harm?
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The key to my post, however, is that we should have the right to choose whether or not to get the vaccines -- including NFL players.
I don't claim to have all the answers, and I could be wrong about many of these things -- but that's not the point. (A good source may be America's Frontline Doctors, but I'm not sure.)
The point is the freedom for each of us to decide for ourselves.
The point is that America isn't China or Cuba, at least not yet. We're not supposed to be living under a tyranny of force.
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It's up to the government to convince us (and not compel us) to get the vaccines with good information and sound logic, not by manipulation and intimidation.
There should be persuasion and not coercion.
It's up to the government to give us the ratios and percentages, and to tell us how they collect their statistics and get their information.
It doesn't seem like the government is good about informing us. It doesn't seem like the government cares about answering our questions and addressing our concerns.
It seems as though the government doesn't respect us and treats us condescendingly.
It's the same government that says we are almost all racists. It's the same government that says if we don't agree with them, we are insurrectionists.
It's the same government that says that men who identify as women can compete with women in sports. Also, it's supposedly okay for these men to use the same bathrooms and locker rooms as our wives and sisters and daughters.
I don't trust the government, or the pharmaceutical companies.
You're free to trust them as much as you want, but shouldn't the rest of us have the right to think and speak and act freely without censorship, cancellation, or coercion.
I'm concerned about the integrity of the NFL season due to the new vaccination rules, but I'm way more concerned about our country and the freedom of its people, including NFL players.

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Harold Drake's picture

July 26, 2021 at 03:26 am

You analysis of government conspiracies is typical of the lunatic fringe Trump/MAGA supporters. I'm sure you believe that your freedom as an individual includes the right to get infected with COVID and spread it to others (including those who have been vaccinated) and potentially kill a small proportion of those who do get infected thanks to your lack of civic responsibility. You are a coward and a fool. If western governments had not launched mass polio and smallpox vaccination programs, people would still be getting crippled or dying from such diseases. You are also delusional in your apparent support for the Jan. 6th insurrection - perhaps you even agree with the imbecile Ron Johnson that it was a peaceful protest or with Trump that the riot was carried out by wonderful, loving people. Your extreme right-wing posturing is a symptom of your stupidity and lack of education.

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Swisch's picture

July 26, 2021 at 05:54 am

Harold, your comment is actually stunning evidence of my larger concern about how average Americans are disrespected and dismissed and despised by supposed sophisticates.
(1) You don't attempt to answer any of my questions or address any of my points. I'm just too stupid. By the way, how can I harm anyone else who is vaccinated?
(2) You are sensationalistic in a way that is shrill and silly. People are going to die if we don't give the government unlimited powers to censor and oppress us regarding forced vaccinations, masks, nationalized health care in general, climate change, defunding the police, and whatever else is on the list. This scare tactic is getting old.
(3) You ignore the other side such as the hundreds of riots by secular and socialist radicals who have smashed and burned and looted our cities for a year or so. They shout down and abuse our police officers unsparingly and unceasingly. It's a national shame of malicious devastation by unprincipled punks who don't know how to build, only to destroy.
(4) You have a superiority complex that is unbearably nasty. The people who pose as tolerant and compassionate and nice are oftentimes exceedingly cruel just underneath their superficial surface.
So thank you for illustrating so vividly my major point that tyranny is creeping into American society aided and abetted by petty dictators such as yourself.
Nazi Germany was perhaps the most educated and cultured and industrious country in the world of its time, but it made the government its God and gave it unquestioning obedience.
Your supposed brilliance and high level of education is merely a front for lapping up government/corporate/academic propaganda by the new fascists of today -- everything in the state, nothing outside of the state, to paraphrase Mussolini, and to sum up the elitists in Washington, D.C.
Good luck with that. If you step out of line in the slightest, they'll destroy you, too. To the secular socialists, anyone who isn't exploitable is expendable.
The NFL has lectured us continually and condescendingly about empowering its players; yet now they are just pawns to be poked with an experimental medicine that may cause much greater suffering than any bout of COVID. No discussion, dissent, or dignity allowed.
Harold, I hope you come around. Our side isn't bent on unending condemnation. We don't consider ourselves better, only our cause. We don't want to tear people down, but to lift them up. We welcome all people of good will.

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Harold Drake's picture

July 26, 2021 at 07:16 am

I couldn't begin to unwrap your shoddy historical analysis or horribly confused understanding of fascism. Your movement, in so far as you are in lock step with Trump and the increasingly extremist GOP, is the real threat to democracy. The NFL is acting responsibly in applying maximum pressure on players to get vaccinated. Freedom is not absolute. We live in a society where roads, bridges, bars, and restaurants are shared by all. Your freedom stops where it begins to intrude on the rights of others. In this case, refusing to get vaccinated increases the risks of contracting and spreading COVID. If you lived like the Unabomber in a cabin the middle of nowhere, I wouldn't mind if you refused to get Pfizered up. But if you are walking amongst the people, interacting with your fellow neo-fascist Proud Boys or radical leftists like me, you run the risk of spreading the virus and infecting others. The virus does not care about one's political leanings. It is simply common sense and a true show of community spirit to get vaccinated.

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13TimeChamps's picture

July 24, 2021 at 12:43 pm

That's pretty good. You know...."For what it's worth".

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TarynsEyes's picture

July 24, 2021 at 11:08 am

This is like a divorce where the only thing each party is angry about and holding up the finality of the divorce is who says openly who was wrong, even though both played their parts equally. Either they agree to separate immediately, or they agree to a one-year reconciliation for the children, the team, and hope they can get the 'bestest present' ever and live happily-ever-after apart.

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Coldworld's picture

July 24, 2021 at 11:41 am

Well put.

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Dr.Rodgers's picture

July 24, 2021 at 11:57 am

Obviously Rodgers can be a distraction, will be a distraction and now Adams has joined the distraction sideshow. There is no escaping this situation for fans of the Green Bay Packers like us. Training camp will start and all eyes will be on the 2021 version of the team, but Rodgers and Adams will be pursued by cameras and microphones as the talking heads in the sports world specualate much to our amusement or disdain. Blame "the media", blame Rodgers, blame Gutekunst and Murphy or Covid19 or whatever. This is hurting the fans and the franchise, and if you think this team is going to the Superbowl in Feb, 2022, I hope you're right. We fans, who make all of these millionaires into celebrities become the real victims in this situation.

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Leatherhead's picture

July 24, 2021 at 01:12 pm

You take the attitudes and beliefs expressed here in the comments section, and move them into the locker room, then it’s pretty easy to see why you’re going to have a divided team if you have Rodgers on the team this year. Personally, I don’t think Rodgers is going to lead this team anywhere under these circumstances.

He’s going to be traded. It’s the only solution.

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Irish_Cheesehead's picture

July 24, 2021 at 04:39 pm

Rodgers says it's all about the people, but I think he just wants to snuggle with his fiancé and host Jeopardy. The Packers should call his bluff and just trade him to "Are You Smarter Than A 5th Grader?"

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

July 25, 2021 at 03:50 am

I do not think the deadlock on Adams' contract talk is necessarily connected to AR's situation. Adams might simply want more than Hopkins allegedly got. AR's situation could be part of the problem, but IDK.

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Guet's picture

July 25, 2021 at 04:59 pm

Article states he is a Putz - I guess that is a more polite term than:

Douchebag -
NORTH AMERICAN
vulgar slang
an obnoxious or contemptible person (typically used of a man).

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PeteK's picture

July 26, 2021 at 10:08 am

Excellent article, thanks! Yes, he should have taken his own advice and kept this between him and the team.

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Difer's picture

July 25, 2021 at 12:50 pm

Multiple sources have Rodgers announcing his retirement before the first training camp practice on Wednesday. Well see. Compliments to MM and Packers front office for standing firm against Rodgers and Adams. The integrity of the Packers business model is far more important than wins and losses. Especially when the Packers fan base remains fanatically loyal to the Packers organization and team, regardless of the team's performance.

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Guet's picture

July 26, 2021 at 11:24 am

Good Riddance! The team will be better without him. If Erin leaves the Fans will be surprised how well the team does without him.

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