So many anti-sentimentalists on this site!

I thought AR did a very good job! Very polished and poised even if most likely there was a lot of prep done in advance along with the list of questions provided ahead of time.

I am glad he shared what he did and my thoughts is there was some good honest answers but also some half truths such as the list. He talked about the players he liked/wanted, but did not send a list. To me, that is providing a list!

Glad he was a Packer but glad he is being traded. Best of luck AR!

Oh quit crying. If you dont like it go back to twitter with the other 12 cultists. Whaaa your hero got traded. Get over it and stop taking your emo crap out on the rest of us.

They got screwed when they didn’t trade him last year, or even 2 years ago, when he first started his infernal whining.

Well the weather in Los Angeles California SUCKS right now. I suppose it's not Wisconsin in Mid-March bad, but it has been a very wet winter.

Better?

BTW... It's the offseason and THIS is what's happening...And I'd say it's not over, not yet. Do the Packers have ANYTHING in return settled yet?

Not pissed off at AR at all. It went EXACTLY how I thought he would (Remember the summer of 2020). You KNEW those issues would arise again after all of this.

Just an observation based on some of your comments. You don't seem to care much for many of us here at CHTV who have been here for years or just a few weeks. Speaking for myself I can only say I live, eat, and shit Green Bay Packers Football. I LOVE the Packers and until they stick me in the ground I'll never STFU...

Just saying...

The lions, bears and Vikings all added several talented free agents the past two days. Vikes just got a new pro bowl tight end while the pack sit on their hands paralyzed by a dis gruntled qb.
Rodgers screwed the pack today so they won't get much for him maybe nothing.

Yeah, he's not been traded, but I can't see any way he'll be back at this point. Of course, I've been wrong before, so being wrong again would be nothing new.

The cynic in me wants to think that Rodgers played nice and spoke well of the team, city, and fans in order to mitigate any hard feelings so that he'd be welcomed back in case the trade falls through. The non-cynic wants to think that he meant what he said.

Enough about Rodgers's side of this -- how he feels, whom he wants around him for comfort in NY, etc. The big question now, as you observe, is what the deal does for the Packers. Besides what happens to our team morale, there's the matter of money. Cobb and Lewis shouldn't cost the Jets much, but they just shelled out >$40m for Lazard. I just hope they don't go broke on this shopping trip, which might include Beckham, and then expect the Packers to eat a big piece of AR's contract. I'm no accountant, but that's my concern now -- making a good deal for the team I've supporting for more than 60 years (before, during, and after the Rodgers era).

He said if the trade doesn’t work out he’s not playing for the Packers again.

Gutey & Murphy after screwing up last years trade that didn't happen and giving out the bloated & ill advised contract had better not blink regarding the trade compensation. Half of the NY Jets fans are foaming at the mouth wanting/expecting AR. If the Packers end up not trading AR the Jets are in huge trouble, particularly with all the FA QB's mostly off the table. I think Gutey has more leverage than many think. It will come down to whether the Packers are willing to hold out and not bend.

Should the deal fall apart I am okay with that! I am not okay with receiving below market value for AR's services. There is a lot of time between now and the trade deadline and someone out there I guarantee is going to want AR.

It's not over until we seal the deal.
It may be about how much each team pays of Rodgers' contract.
It may be that we really don't know what is really going on.
Please, just get this done, wrap this up, and let's move on for certain.

No he absolutely did say he is not coming back and that puts the screws to the deal for the packers that many on this board are getting in their pea brains.
He said, Its the Jets or retirement, I'm not coming back. The pack have no leverage now because they cant tell the Jets we will just keep him if we cant get a good deal. That option is off the table now thanks to Rodgers.

Gave you a thumbs up CW but there are 30 other teams out there if the Jets deal falls apart. I feel comfortable the Packers are going to get good compensation. I do not think it is going to be a fleecing but I believe I will end up happy once I hear. Personally, even if the Jets deal fell apart I do think AR would return to the Packers. There is money involved and a chip on his shoulder & he would love to show the world...................

Not concerned!

One small step for SH, one giant leap for Packerkind.

Well, you're half right.

Agreed, Stockholder!
Murphy's an idiot and Gutey's his puppet.

Murphy… yes indeed!

Couldn’t agree more sh, if this falls apart Gute and Murphy have single handedly ruined this team..

"now if the Front Office doesn't shoot their own foot..."

That's a big ask right there, Coach...

Coach, you say,
"now if the Front Office doesn't shoot their own foot, we'll be good"
Maybe you meant to say,
"now if the Front Office doesn't shoot their other foot too, we'll be good"

Very sad, but Gutey facilitated this very day back in 2020, which he didn't have to do...

He only has himself to blame.

He also had the perfect opportunity to trade AR last off-season and stubbornly refused (or Mark Murphy refused to) to do so, making this look even worse, IMO.

I listened to everything AR said, and while I knew this day would come, and should come, I was proud of everything he said, even if it was a bit sad... The class with which he said what he said was amazing and I commend him for doing so on the PMS.

Screw the "main stream" NFL media...

Love how %'in supportive he was of JORDAN LOVE on his way out the door!

Class Act for sure!

Thanks for the memories AR12!

Good Luck in NYC!

Go Pack Go!

P,
There is NO 'it may be best for both franchises, and for him'.

It clearly is best for all parties....clearly!

"And go Packers to get as much compensation as possible."

Which may be nothing if the trade falls through. So the saga is STILL not over!

Thank you PF!

AR could have and should have announced quite some time ago (1) the Packers wanted to trade him (2) that he wanted to play football again. However, he intentionally choose not to disclose. Love how he conveniently uses the media to his advantage.

In 5 minutes flat AR could create his own Youtube version of what happened and what was going on & send it out to the internet. I think a lot of half-truths being shared.

Fwiw. This

https://nypost.com/2023/03/15/why-the-packers-would-hold-up-the-aaron-ro...

"No Aaron, everyone was waiting on you."

That's a funny take considering that even after his announcement that you claim everyone was waiting for nothing is settled.

You win the comment section today 👍

Bingo Cheese!

Gutey.....'show me the money'!

The Pack definitely has leverage should they hold fast.

Negotiating in bad faith is a poor business model in the long run. There was most likely a general sense of what the trade terms were going to be when permission to go beg Rodgers to play was given to the Jets. Details maybe not but I find it hard to believe the FO said sure go chat we’ll talk later….

was Watson available at OTA's?

I see this comment all the time but there's no evidence that would've made any difference for the 2022 season. Watson was hurt all of training camp and missed three games during the first half of the season. The other 5 games he barely played. He did nothing until Week 10 against the Cowboys. None of that was his fault because he was injured and it just took time to heal and get experience. Romeo Doubs also had an up and down season and missed a big chunk of the middle of the year.

What else did this offense have besides Lazard? Watson and Doubs were the best receivers besides lazard and they were both in and out all year. Watkins and Amari Rodgers were so bad that they were cut during the season. This offense had nothing.

"He said everything that is appropriate to say. Thank him on that. It will make transition easier and all honors he deserved to be assigned to him will be done with appreciations.

I hoped for that way to end his Green Bay Packers career, so all Packers fans can cheer for his implementation in Packers HOF and retirement #12 in his honor.

Well done ACR! Well done!"

This is my post immediately after ACR done at McAfee Show under Aaron Nagler live.

I did not change my mind. What I believe if that was all honest what ACR said, that is another story. But this is what I assume he achieved with his presentation at McAfee.

I think there are several former Packers that could argue with him about greatest Packer in franchise history, though.

He had done nothing for me since 10 years. But I dont care. He never played the way he gets paid. But I dont care. He never made anyone around him better, besides his 3 buddies, more the opposite. But I dont care. If he lies and is afraid to help in a crisis I dont care either, its just who he always was.
I dont even care that he was not good at all in most play off games since the run. MM has twice as much SB wins.
But I do care hwo to carries himself on and off the field. He is not 10% Packer People and he is not whatthe Packers are all about. He throws everyone under the bus all the time, even its not directly. His chryptic lies are not smart at all, even he thinks it is. And if someone thinks he is so smart, thats the best sign he is not at all.
He has seldom used his influence for something good and has never spoken up like so many other VIPs. Just for his behalf and just trashing the guys who are easy targets.
Nearly every player who is leaving the Packers did not like him, besides Adams; Coob and JJ out of 100! And its no wonder.

And if in this world, that makes people like him weird, I would thank him for leaving. The world needs way more Lombardis and not the opposite of people....

Matt,
Great post!

I did think AR presented himself well. A couple or three things that did jump out to me though were:

1. Transparency and how he wanted the Packers to be transparent. Seems to me he wants transparency one way, but not for him to ever want to be transparent. What is it like almost 70-days since the end of the season for him to open up about wanting to play?
2. He talked once again about how the Packer organization treats aging veteran players....and now him. How naive and obviously he has never worked in a Corporate setting (though the GBP's are a Corporation). This is how Corporate America operates. People get fired, and/or laid off all the time usually with no advance warning. Sometimes they have security march you to the door for exiting.
3. He laughed that he did not provide a list, however he did discuss his 'boys' and who he liked/wanted. Half-truth? That is providing a list just not a written list.

Overall, I thought he did a great job & thank him for a lot of fun years leading my favorite sports team.

Well said. Matt and Snot. Pretty much sums up my feelings.

Matt, well said. It’s not easy, because there’s this dichotomy. Almost as if we’re trying to comprehend two different people, honoring the glory of one, yet unable to recognize the fuckery of the other.

Couldn’t think of a better word there.

He lost me when he disrespected Greg Jennings. Who was made out to be the villain?

Jennings helped make Rodgers. And, I loved Rodgers to that point. My first red flag of many.

Those who know me know I want our QBs to liberally use our RBs. It saves the QB wear & tear, keeps your D fresh, wears out opposing Ds, makes them play honest, opens up so much more in the passing game.

I’m hypersensitive to QBs dissing phenomenal RBs behind them to hero ball. Rodgers learned that from Favre, always wanting to outdo Favre.

That kind of BS takes away Ws. We lost more games, important games we should not have, because two All-Pro RBs had to SPLIT 13 carries. (Adios, those other 3-4 Super Bowls we should have won. Hey Brett, Elway knew how to hand the goddam rock off. Prick.)

Sorry Jamaal Williams. Sorry Aaron Jones. Sorry AJ Dillon. There’s MVPs to win.

Favre did same to Ahman Green. Mike Sherman had the same deferment to Favre that LaFleur displayed with Rodgers.

I guess Jennings was the beginning of the end for me in seeing Rodgers as a complete legendary figure. Man, did that sucker snowball from there.

Move to NY and your wish will be true.

I think it would be ironic if he just shows up for some Jet's off-season workouts.

Not going to happen. He couldn’t even muster a decent game against the Lions. How’s he going to manage against AFC powerhouses like KC in the playoffs? In the same way he’s responded to NFC powerhouses: by wilting.

There is only one thing that would make the Pack's appearance in next year's SB more enjoyable: Pack vs Jets and Rodgers.

Why would the Pack cut him? He is guaranteed $60 million this year. He would compete with Love, or back Love up until a team needing a QB contacts the Packers prior to the trading deadline. There is a lot of time between now and the trade deadline. This is why Gutey has a ton of leverage with the Jet's.

Aaron could play for any NFL team on his terms.

This makes post June 1 cut deadline important. Packers have leverage until then. The Jets know all this. The two teams are in the "lets deal" phase now.

But also expect Packers are letting Jets know other suitors are calling. Rodgers leverage not to be traded to a team not the Jets, is retirement.

And it is now clear the Pack would be fine with Rodgers retiring. That decision was made months ago.

NO they would never do that. They get nothing but his bonus to pay. If the deal doesnt go down and it may not, Rodgers retires and its over. Packers will always have his rights so no team gets him for free.

Sheesh, 4 downvotes for trying to have fun. What has CHTV come to?

I'm not familiar with any other team's cap situations so it's hard for me to say what is realistic but I would have loved to see him go to the Raiders (one of my backup fav teams) to play with Adams again. Speaking of Adams, I thought that the media getting all worked up about his posts this past week was hilarious when it was quite obvious he was throwing out a dig at said media for harassing him about ARod news.

Thanks Moo!

I read that too and totally believe this is the case. Woody took his whole front office and flew all the way to CA and spent 4-5 hours with AR. Then flew all the way back! The Jet's are stuck between a rock and a wall. Unless a Stafford or Jackson becomes available (for a higher compensation package) they have to make the trade for AR. The Jet fans are demanding this trade!

The Jets IMO have the upper hand because a) there are other QB's out there who are younger b) if they keep there 1 and bundle they may just move up and get a new young stud C) the packers have no bargaining power -time yes, power no because Rodgers screwed them today saying its the Jets or retirement. D) the jets can tell the pack take the deal or we move on, he retires, you pay his huge bonus and get nothing in return.

He will! And you will finally return to sanity!

I will but need a little help from my 'friends' (Gutey) come draft time!

"Thus a good time to send Murphy to scout some more HS basketball games."

This was like the best throw ACR ever did!

"Thus a good time to send Murphy to scout some more HS basketball games."

In Yugoslavia...

Edit: well that was quite the senior moment. I meant Ukraine.