The Packers win with plenty of credit to Josh, Micah and a substitute kicker starting a new controversy.

Quay Walker had a game too. Do you think it was planned for him to rush the passer so much or was he just taking advantage of opportunities? We haven't seen those called all season so far, but a good LB needs to jump on those when he sees the chance just like a QB would alter a play if a receiver were left blatantly uncovered.

Both instances you point to showed a more aggressive nature by LaFleur, which was a change he needed to make for his Packers team. That Love pass to Doubs for 22 yds, and the GB Offense getting in position to clock it with 0:01 before the half was the kind of positive change many of us fans had hoped for from Matt LaFleur. Havrisik's record setting 61 yarder was HUGE.

LaFleur showed improved clock management and gametime awareness there. Previously, he had been wasting those opportunities for reasons I could never understand.

His switching out of the FG in Q4 to run the conversion on 4th & 2 to Kraft was another game changer.

GOOD!

LaFleur's team fighting back after being down for the road win, also GOOD!

Big players stepped up to make it happen, along with some great calls by LaFleur and his staff. Huge positive moving forward this year to bring this young team together to chase a ring. That's how it's done.

I wish Love would go to Golden more seems like he forgets about him, still no touchdowns

The author has correctly hit on the Packers 2 biggest concerns. First the OL which continues to struggle in the run game. This need to change and quickly. Plus they need to cut down on the number of penalties. Second are the DBs especially their cornerbacks. They can't face Aaron Rodgers this week and continue to play as poorly as they have been plying. Rodgers will cut them to pieces.

On the positive side we have Josh Jacobs and our receiving corps. Jordan Love has become clutch late in games. On defense Parsons and Walker are consistently making plays and except for secondary the defense has been solid.

Hopefully the Packers can stack another road win against the Steelers. GPG! Thanks, Since '61

The Packers always have one of the longest weekly injury lists in the NFL. Most guys on the list don't practice all week or very little.

Penalties are coaching/lack of practice time/discipline mistakes. Maybe too simplistic a thought...but the Packers decisions to start injury list players is based on if they can suit up and play...not so much if they are READY to play and win snaps.

The OL is not a consistent, cohesive, or well drilled unit. There are just too many individual breakdowns. 4 may get their opponent blocked but the 5th guy then stumbles. Unlike Bakhtiari, you just expect Walker to have a few really bad plays every game. Morgan runs hot one game and cold another. Jenkins is getting back to his stout self but not moving guys like he normally does. Banks is starting to earn his paycheck but is not looking to be the dominant guard expected...especially in the run game. Tom is an ironman gutting through the oblique injury...but he's not 100%.

I don't know if Stenovich and Butkus can fix this. The OL and DB rooms are both repair shops approaching midseason. Lots of coaching work needed, some health, and actually practicing starters together during the week during the installs. Lots of variables...maybe too many.

I believe they have most of the right players on the bus, but not certain all are in the right seats.

After watching some of the video discussions here on CHTV where Love's RPO use of the "CAN" to go to a different play after seeing what the defense was doing I spent quite a bit of the game rewinding when Love put his hands to his head and tapping to change the play. I think the video discussions mentioned that Love typically got plus 5 yards on the alternate Canned play. I gained some new respect for Love watching him do that in this game. HIs head nods on some of the plays where he is silently getting some of the offence guys to move positions were especially interesting. If you rewatch the game pay attention to that! In one case he is literally twitching his helmet to the left multiple times to get a guy on the right side to move to the left of the line after "Canning" the play and then Love hands off to Jacobs who finds a nice big hole where that guy would have been if Love hadn't moved him. With all the noise in the stadium the silent work Love was doing with head nods, gestures, etc. was really fun to watch. Anyone who claims Love has a "low football IQ" sure doesn't know what they are talking about. I really loved the play (and play call by MLF) where Love gives an absolutely awesome fake to Jacobs (who does a great job of running into the line w/o the ball to keep up the ruse) and then throws the ball to Kraft who leaks out to the right. If I remember right that was one of the TD's.

The one moment you knew the game wasn't going to be easy: The camera crew focuses in on Hafley after the defense had just had three good plays and then Hobbs allows the 35 yard "explosive" play. You didn't need to be much of a lip reader to read Hafley's, "God Damn It!" while pulling off his headphones. The very next play Hobbs can't make the tackle (admittedly a tough task) on the TE who scores the touch down. Ouch.

Hobbs needs to see the bench. I don't understand how he is starting over Valentine.

There are TWO takeaways from the Cards game:
1.) Packers playing to their true selves pays off: some play stellar, some reliably solid, a few have off-days but enough play in character & up to the moment and we win.
2.) Best thing is, with so many excellent stories & players, there's no need to look for thingss to cry about
3, ok this is #2.) What does Romeo Doubs have to do to *not* be erased from the historical record? as though our beat writers are Stalin's historians? Against the Cards Doubs led all receivers with 6 receptions, 72 yards, 22 long-- & gets a bare mention. Like enough of a mention--ONLY a mention--to indicate the *entire* erasure of Doubs' storyline. His name is there; but only as a potemkin portrayal of the reality of the contribution. But why. Recognizing Doubs' game-in, game-out consistency takes nothing away, for example, from Kraft's gamebreaking plays. A week prior -- and You wouldn't know it from any Packerswire coverage -- you'd have to watch the game to learn Romeo Doubs led all wide receivers w/ 5 catches vs the Bengals, basically tying Josh Jacobs statistically, who also had 5. Fortunately, Packers fans get their 2 or 3 or 5 takeaways by watching the game. Now, Golden rightly drew focus for hitting his stride w 3 spectacular catches for big gains. Still -- and unavoidably -- consistently omitting mention of the most consistent producer around is a red flag, a dead giveaway. To be clear: my own pet peeve is the media's habit of continually drowning the same player in the same story for eternity -- so I'm not lobbying for attention forDoubs. All these other stories are valid. They should take precedence when/because they are the breaking story; they new. However. There's no honor or journalistic objectivity in behaving as though Romeo Doubs doesn't exist. I mean, invent a justification for operating as though none of his snaps happened at all. I mean, continue on as best you can, as you have been . .. --if you think you can.

Hard to disagree with anything Mark has said in this article. It's no coincidence that since Hobbs has returned from injury that the GB defensive backfield looks porous. We need another CB badly. For the interim, Valentine would be worlds better than Hobbs. I hate to keep saying it, but Hobbs reminds me of Kevin King...

The other encouraging thing I saw in ARI was possible growth in LaFleur. His clock management at the end of the first half was good. Then he had the confidence to let the rookie kicker try a long field goal. His gutsy call in the 4th qtr to go for it on 4th and 2 seemed out of place for him given his recent conservative behavior. My biggest concern with LaFleur has always been inability to learn from his mistakes. This game shows that he may be learning, just as he asks his players to do.