2023 CHTV Watch Party: Saints vs Packers
Join Aaron and Corey for a live watch party of Green Bay's Week 3 matchup with the New Orleans Saints. Join us starting at 12:45pm est!
By PackerAaron
Join Aaron and Corey for a live watch party of Green Bay's Week 3 matchup with the New Orleans Saints. Join us starting at 12:45pm est!
By PackerAaron
Comments (259)
albert999
September 24, 2023 at 10:34 am
Jones bachktari Watson Alexander all out
UNFUCKING BELIEVABLE
PackfanNY
September 24, 2023 at 10:40 am
Watson just can’t stay on the field. Two years in a row missing multiple games. He hardly played in the preseason to avoid just this situation, yet here we are. Frustrating.
Oppy
September 24, 2023 at 11:49 am
It is frustrating, but just one more reminder.. Packers fans wanted to ship out Davante Adams in his first 3-4 seasons for the exact same reason- he can't stay healthy, he can't catch the ball, etc and so forth.
It's football, players go through injuries. You just have to give them time and see how their bodies respond. Watson is far too talented to turn our backs on.
dobber
September 24, 2023 at 11:01 am
Understanding is that Jones and Watson COULD play, but they're trying to get them back close to 100% for Thursday v. the Lions.
Thursday games are an abomination.
Leatherhead
September 24, 2023 at 11:07 am
In the grand scheme of things, it's more important to beat the Lions than the Saints. Beating the Lions puts us in first place in the division regardless of what happens today.
We have injuries. It's part of football. Other people are hurt, too. It's why depth is important....it's not all just playmakers.
SicSemperTyrannis
September 24, 2023 at 11:25 am
Is LVN ok?
I don't know why our pass rush wasn't effective last week, but it seems key in this matchup.
Coldworld
September 24, 2023 at 11:37 am
Because they were focused on being run over. This week should be set up for the rush in contrast.
SicSemperTyrannis
September 24, 2023 at 11:24 am
I hope you're right. Ja out? I'm not very optimistic, but I'll watch ...
Since'61
September 24, 2023 at 11:34 am
Dobber we agree that TNF is an unnecessary abomination/money grab for the owners. I would not rush either player back to play in a TNF game. They'll be ready to play when they're ready and they should be allowed to return when they're 100% ready to go and not sooner. Why risk ruining their seasons if they return to play too soon? Thanks, Since '61
canadapacker
September 24, 2023 at 11:59 am
I think that we need two things to happen - we need better strength and conditioning programs as we seem to have too many of this type of injury - hammies. I think that the team philosophy is too strict - 100 % - who is 100 % after the preseason workouts and practices and every game in the regular season. Also TNF should have been a fight with the union - if they say that player safety is paramount - money is paramount. If they want TNF - they needed to lengthen the season so that every team goes into a TNF game after a bye - even if it meant adding week to the schedule ( maybe one week earlier start) and adding an extra bye week. You would thing that some computer schedule genius could work that out. But to play 2 games with only 3 days after their previous game is kind of insane if looking at the health of the players.
SicSemperTyrannis
September 24, 2023 at 12:25 pm
Exactly what Bakh says, the league talking about player safety is insincere as long as they're playing on top of concrete.
But putting a player back in after an injury that's known to get worse is not good strategy when it's currently minor. Hamstrings should get better not worse. Maybe JB is not the first coach who should be replaced. Maybe our strength and conditioning coach is doing everything right, but I seriously doubt it.
Oppy
September 24, 2023 at 11:51 am
Nothing can be done about health of players. It's a full contact sport.
The silver lining is this is yet another opportunity to develop the youth that potentially is the future of the team. See what they do well, learn from what they don't.. it all helps the development of the team for the long term, and game day experience now can lead to massive returns down the stretch if they are called upon later in the season.
GPG
SicSemperTyrannis
September 24, 2023 at 12:30 pm
I disagree that nothing can be done about injuries, especially a rash of hamstring injuries. I've seen exercise make all the difference in the world, and hamstrings and shoulders are at the top of the list.
Something needs to be changed.
Oppy
September 24, 2023 at 01:54 pm
Not trying to be rude, but the Packers have had hamstring injury bug through two entirely different regimes and training staffs.. and the Packers training and medical staffs are generally well-regarded across the league.
Every team has players with soft tissue issues. It's not like the Packers aren't having their guys stretch. It is what it is.
SicSemperTyrannis
September 24, 2023 at 03:27 pm
GREAT WIN!!
Poor game. Great first defensive series. GREAT fourth quarter. In between? Lots of problems. I'm not saying our players were perfect, but I see them outperforming our coaches and by a wide margin.
Still, being behind all game and winning by one point in the fourth quarter vs having a lead all game and in the fourth and losing by a point? GPG! JL10 led his first fourth quarter comeback, I think it matches the biggest for GB ever, and his air raid "only" got burned with one interception. I do want to see a more balanced attack and less hero ball, but 2-1.
VIikings lost, Lions won. Thursday! No new injuries? How's Valentine?
Dolphins put up a ridiculous 70 points, holy cow.
Since'61
September 24, 2023 at 11:29 am
I'm beginning to believe that we won't see Jones or Watson back until after the bye week. We'll see but I would not rush either of them back at this point.
Thanks, Since '61
dobber
September 24, 2023 at 03:19 pm
They both practiced this week...Packers gambling they can win without them today to try to be full strength for the Lions
Esquetoi
September 24, 2023 at 03:36 pm
I'd like to hear that these players put in some time today (yes game day) in the rehab queue.) No need to show their faces on the sidelineIMO.
canadapacker
September 24, 2023 at 11:52 am
In case anybody is wondering - why are teams are not paying big money for running backs any more . Jones is out and now has missed two games in a row. Barkley is out , Chubb is out , Eckler is out. It is bad enough that we have a lot of salary sitting on the sidelines with Bak and Jones and AR ( dead cap) but those teams that dont adapt by playing their walk ons and 6th and 7 rounders - dont succeed. Now we have Wilson who has shown that he can break the big one - so lets get him more reps. We know what Taylor has done because he has had snaps before. So lets get Wilson extra snaps through better game planning and having him out in space. It is time for Lafleur to earn his salary and his reputation ( because so far his winning record were because AR - many people argue).
SicSemperTyrannis
September 24, 2023 at 12:33 pm
Wilson got one chance and blew it with a short pass back to JL10. #28 is doing well but MLF's use of him is still questionable; too predictable and their D is adjusting very quickly.
Get #31 Wilson some more runs!
Oppy
September 24, 2023 at 11:53 am
Let's hope the offense continues to perform and finds ways to move against the Saints defense, and that our Defense shows some fortitude and pride with a bounce back performance.
GPG.
SicSemperTyrannis
September 24, 2023 at 12:36 pm
First few possessions were not that surprising; we got a three and out due to our pass rush, our O was totally outclassed, then Saints got a TD. I didn't really expect them to get that so quickly.
Oppy
September 24, 2023 at 01:56 pm
Not fond of the early 4th down call to go for it.
I guess the "LaFleur isn't aggressive enough" crowd should be happy they got what they wanted.
Offense was just a beat off in the first half, now looks lost in the second.
Packers defense actually hasn't been horrible. Not great, but they're right there. Just need to make a play.
Hopefully someone pulls it together.
CheesedDeadHead
September 24, 2023 at 12:10 pm
Horrible playcalling.
On the same level as Lazard on a reverse on 4th and 1.
TKWorldWide
September 24, 2023 at 12:19 pm
You’re just saying that because it didn’t work. If it had, you’d be applauding it as brilliant, gutsy, innovative, creative, etc.
SicSemperTyrannis
September 24, 2023 at 12:40 pm
And it seems to be the reasoning behind not giving #31 Wilson more runs. Even though #28 is doing well, MLF is using him too predictably and NO D is adjusting quickly. That one mistake is no reason not to have him run, enough to keep NO guessing.
Since'61
September 24, 2023 at 12:12 pm
A good play call on 4th and 2 but terrible execution. Thanks, Since '61
Qoojo
September 24, 2023 at 12:12 pm
Needed the Benny Hill theme on that trick play.
13TimeChamps
September 24, 2023 at 12:16 pm
3 penalties in the first 5 minutes. With all the missing players this week, they needed to play as penalty free as possible. Not a good start.
KurtMc
September 24, 2023 at 12:20 pm
Giving Carr a throwing lane nearly every time. How about an LB stunt through the open middle Joe B?
TKWorldWide
September 24, 2023 at 12:23 pm
How about stuffing the run?
Blanketing the receivers?
Sacking the QB?
Forcing a fumble?
Pick 6?
Damn, I’d make an awesome DC.
I’m astounded to not be employed in the NFL.
egbertsouse
September 24, 2023 at 12:21 pm
How did they let Grandpa Graham catch it a TD?
jannesbjornson
September 24, 2023 at 12:36 pm
Campbell late to the scene....
SicSemperTyrannis
September 24, 2023 at 12:45 pm
And out. Hopefully it's not a serious injury.
egbertsouse
September 24, 2023 at 12:22 pm
When will LaFlower learn to punt the damn ball?
Oppy
September 24, 2023 at 04:12 pm
I agree 100% with this.
It seemed like MLF was listening to the loud Packers fans' complaints about not "playing to win" and not being "aggressive" like the Falcons were last week, and his mission was to prove he IS an aggressive play caller on offense.
A shame- because IMO, LaFleur's "aggressive" playcalling on 4th down(s) robbed the Packers offense of 6 pts, broke any chance of establishing offensive momentum early, and also led to helping put the Saints' offense in stellar starting field position that led to the the first offensive touchdown by the Saints.. the ONLY offensive touchdown by the Saints.
This game could have looked entirely different had MLF played with his head instead of his heart.
In the end, it worked out, and the team is better for it.. but yeah... PUNT THE BALL.. especially in a 0-0 game.
egbertsouse
September 24, 2023 at 12:25 pm
Missed a layup there, Love
Qoojo
September 24, 2023 at 12:26 pm
Quite a miss by Love on the throw to musgrave.
splitpea1
September 24, 2023 at 12:26 pm
Best play of the season for Dillon. A small consolation after Love missed Musgrave.
SicSemperTyrannis
September 24, 2023 at 12:47 pm
Dillon has been doing well, but MLF is making the same mistake with both him and Wilson. Keep doing the same thing repeatedly and expect this D not to stop it in the backfield?
TKWorldWide
September 24, 2023 at 12:31 pm
A swing pass on 3rd and long is a terrible playcall.
Except when it works.
Tight end down the seam vs cover 2 is a great playcall.
Except when it’s overthrown.
What I’m getting at here is execution. Complaining about playcalling is like blaming the meteorologist for the rain. Lame.
Leatherhead
September 24, 2023 at 12:34 pm
Not the best possible debut for anybody. 0 points. Some bad throws. A TD drive against us.
It can only get better from here.
13TimeChamps
September 24, 2023 at 12:38 pm
Another slow start. This is becoming an unwelcome trend.
Qoojo
September 24, 2023 at 12:39 pm
Gary is a stud.
Leatherhead
September 24, 2023 at 12:40 pm
Rather than just catch the punt , we risk the turnover, injury, or penalty that comes with returning. It cost us 10 yards this time. Last week it was on the coverage team.
Leatherhead
September 24, 2023 at 12:42 pm
Love's season is going to end early if we don't do a better job of protecting him.
13TimeChamps
September 24, 2023 at 12:46 pm
.
Qoojo
September 24, 2023 at 12:50 pm
Don't forget about the head first dives. Then last week he ran over a guy.
egbertsouse
September 24, 2023 at 12:45 pm
Sure glad special teams improved this year!
Leatherhead
September 24, 2023 at 12:46 pm
But at least we didn't punt it out of bounds. Yay Us!!
Leatherhead
September 24, 2023 at 12:46 pm
I never expected a Cleveland Steamer in our home opener.
egbertsouse
September 24, 2023 at 12:47 pm
You could see that coming, no hang time at all.
SicSemperTyrannis
September 24, 2023 at 12:53 pm
And I thought it looked like he partially shanked it. I'll guarantee you that ball did not strike where Whelan intended. I've seen him bobble it just like that several times in practice. It's entirely different when he connects with it cleanly.
13TimeChamps
September 24, 2023 at 12:48 pm
55 yards lost so far to penalties.
splitpea1
September 24, 2023 at 12:48 pm
Why do the Packers have such a problem finding a competent punter?
SicSemperTyrannis
September 24, 2023 at 12:58 pm
This is what I said when there was still a competition; Whelan's leg is bigger but he's inconsistent. Carlson has either improved or just performs better under pressure, while Whelan looks unchanged over the last 6 weeks.
13TimeChamps
September 24, 2023 at 12:49 pm
Apparently returning punts has some value after all.
Leatherhead
September 24, 2023 at 12:52 pm
Yes. At a cost. IMO, the cost of doing that is greater than the value of the longer return. Just like punting it out of bounds so your opponent doesn't have the opportunity to do that to you. I think the math backs me up on that.
13TimeChamps
September 24, 2023 at 01:01 pm
I tend to agree to some extent, but it's part of the game whether you like it or not. Bitching about it every game isn't going to change anything.
Leatherhead
September 24, 2023 at 12:50 pm
And a -5 yard kickoff return.
Qoojo
September 24, 2023 at 12:52 pm
Offense just needs to clean things up and stop hurting themselves. They can move the ball on this defense.
SicSemperTyrannis
September 24, 2023 at 01:00 pm
Going air raid offense. Just take what's open! Using Musgrave more is good.
13TimeChamps
September 24, 2023 at 12:52 pm
Three times (at least) so far this year Nixon has brought the kickoff out of the end zone. Every time we ended up with negative field position. I don't know....maybe stop doing that?
SicSemperTyrannis
September 24, 2023 at 01:01 pm
I keep fearing injury. Good thing he's tough.
Qoojo
September 24, 2023 at 12:57 pm
Nah, that wasn't a great PB that was a PI. Otherwise, how do you explain defender hitting WR before the ball arrives behind the defender and hits defender in the back?
Leatherhead
September 24, 2023 at 01:01 pm
Qoojo.....he was playing the ball....with the back of his head? How the hell?
Qoojo
September 24, 2023 at 01:03 pm
I was talking about the previous set of downs. The quick out where DB hit Doubs well before ball arrived, and ball hit db in back.
The play you are talking about, the DB never turned and made contact with WR as WR reached back. That is typically PI too.
Leatherhead
September 24, 2023 at 12:57 pm
Look, I get that New Orleans has a good defense, but we're at 0, and they aren't that good. We keep stopping ourselves. But a nice deep out to Wicks keeps us moving for now. Getting close to the redzone for the first time.
Leatherhead
September 24, 2023 at 01:00 pm
Right before Love's sack, the announcer declared that the DB was playing the ball with the back of his helmet. Seriously.
Packers1985
September 24, 2023 at 01:04 pm
But the DB didnt obstruct Doubs i dont think that is a PI. The one before that series there was a clear PI that Qoojo was referring to i believe that was a PI
egbertsouse
September 24, 2023 at 01:01 pm
They got into Saints territory and then started hero ball every other play.
SicSemperTyrannis
September 24, 2023 at 01:03 pm
And keep getting beat. Maybe try something else.
egbertsouse
September 24, 2023 at 01:02 pm
If this offense clown show continues, the Saints may pitch a shutout.
SicSemperTyrannis
September 24, 2023 at 01:04 pm
They're used to it.
SinceLombardi
September 24, 2023 at 01:09 pm
Everything Love throws is off the mark. Short on the long ball, overthrown on the medium, mix in some penalties, clueless coaches and we’re looking at a good draft pick.
This game looked over as soon as Love under threw Doubs near the end zone.
SinceLombardi
September 24, 2023 at 01:05 pm
Embarrassing.
Qoojo
September 24, 2023 at 01:06 pm
Have they tried passing to a RB coming out of the backfield yet? I thought that was missing last week too. Musgrave plays are working well.
13TimeChamps
September 24, 2023 at 01:09 pm
There has been penalties on every GB drive so far. That has to get cleaned up.
13TimeChamps
September 24, 2023 at 01:11 pm
4 drives/7 penalties.
albert999
September 24, 2023 at 01:10 pm
We look embarrassingly undisciplined
jannesbjornson
September 24, 2023 at 01:46 pm
Give the coaching staff extensions.
Leatherhead
September 24, 2023 at 01:12 pm
We're at 0 with 2:00 to go. Early on, Love was off target , but later, he didn't have very good protection, IMO. Walker and Newman are no substitute for Bakhtiari and Jenkins, but they're what we've got.
If a different Packer team doesn't come out after halftime, it's going to be to ugly to watch. Sunshine, a pool and margaritas offer an alternative.
Lphill
September 24, 2023 at 01:14 pm
21 -0
Lphill
September 24, 2023 at 01:16 pm
Aaron Rodgers was the problem , right ?
Packers0808
September 24, 2023 at 01:19 pm
Yes, he is an ass.
Leatherhead
September 24, 2023 at 01:21 pm
It doesn't look like it now, but it sure did when we went +30 in our opener.
edp1959
September 24, 2023 at 01:25 pm
They will never admit being wrong. Over the last 3 quarters Love has had a total of 85 passing yards. What a joke…
Oppy
September 24, 2023 at 03:16 pm
Actually, it looks like you might be the one who will never admit being wrong, now... doesn't it?
Packers1985
September 24, 2023 at 01:28 pm
Many referred him not the only problem . He was part of the problem since he was the highest paid in this team at that time ppl expected a little more from him.
There are n number of issues with the team coaching is of this main problem is coaching they play soft and the issues continue every yr not a single thing changed.
Next many dont agree with me here but Gutey hasn't been great with his Picks he was okish so many whiffs. He is too much caught up in measurables.
SicSemperTyrannis
September 24, 2023 at 03:43 pm
Gutey's far better than our coaching. A few misses sure, but nobody hits 100%. He's been improving.
Esquetoi
September 24, 2023 at 03:53 pm
Yes he was, (after the game to be fair.)
jhtobias
September 24, 2023 at 01:16 pm
Good let's keep defensing Lafluer and Barry this team is a clown show and not just because they have injuries ..
When you get outcoached by Dennis Smith you truly suck lmao
13TimeChamps
September 24, 2023 at 01:20 pm
Who is Dennis Smith?
egbertsouse
September 24, 2023 at 01:20 pm
Musgrave is the only bright spot.
13TimeChamps
September 24, 2023 at 01:21 pm
Giving up a long drive and points at the end of the 1st half. Sound familiar? At least JB is consistent.
SinceLombardi
September 24, 2023 at 01:25 pm
It’s not JB.. the problem is his boss. LaFluer is actually a bigger problem than Barry.
13TimeChamps
September 24, 2023 at 01:30 pm
How is giving up an 82 yard drive at the end of the half not on the DC? Especially when it's happened way too many times on his watch.
Leatherhead
September 24, 2023 at 02:12 pm
The defense has given up 10 points in 3 quarters.
Oppy
September 24, 2023 at 03:18 pm
Joe Barry's defense gave up 10 points today..
and 7 of those points came from a horrible decision by MLF to go for it on 4th down in a 0-0 game to give the Saints exceptional starting field position.
Esquetoi
September 24, 2023 at 03:56 pm
This would be the game to play off and the 2nd half proved that out. I don't understand playing off for average QBs but the rush came through...which lends itself to playing it closer.
PackfanNY
September 24, 2023 at 01:24 pm
Well, I think we realized there would be days like this. However, a lot of beating ourselves in this one. Penalties are unacceptable.
albert999
September 24, 2023 at 01:29 pm
booed off the field at halftime
albert999
September 24, 2023 at 01:30 pm
Home opener congrats lafleur
NJ-RICK
September 24, 2023 at 01:32 pm
Hang in there Packer fans, Murphy and Gute will be long gone by next season....! No more fucking excuses guys this Packers team is lousy... HORRIBLE..!!!! I'm sure glad I didn't purchase the NFL INSIDE TICKET this Season.
Packers0808
September 24, 2023 at 01:55 pm
delete
Oppy
September 24, 2023 at 03:19 pm
This didn't age well
Packers0808
September 24, 2023 at 01:36 pm
Anybody with any thoughts with all the injuries should know today would be rough sledding. And you people call yourselves fans?
Leatherhead
September 24, 2023 at 01:37 pm
Agree. Regardless of today, if we beat the Lions on Thursday we'll be in first place in the division.
SinceLombardi
September 24, 2023 at 01:48 pm
Are you kidding? Injuries??
Starting with the championship game against SF in 2021 and including today’s likely outcome MLF is 8-12… including a horrible loss to Detroit that cost a playoff berth.
We are totally out coach on both sides of the ball week after week.
BTW .. there is a difference between a fan and a cheerleader.
Packers0808
September 24, 2023 at 01:54 pm
No there is a difference between being a good fan and a fair weather fan like you. Been a Packer fan since 1958 and have never been fair weather I suppose always have hope and if not good see improvement. Have seen both sides and middle of Packers since 1958 and it is only a game to enjoy good or bad. Everyone says how great QB Starr was but his coaching is hardly ever mentioned in comparison!
Packers0808
September 24, 2023 at 03:10 pm
Not good being a cheerleader huh? Now try and become real fan and not a lousy fan!
Leatherhead
September 24, 2023 at 01:36 pm
There is little doubt we'll come out throwing if we intend to get back in this. I don't think the guys we have can protect Love. For his part, for the first time in his career, Love is coming out on that field and has to deliver. He's the starting QB and there are zero points on the board.
SicSemperTyrannis
September 24, 2023 at 03:51 pm
And he WON!
Hopefully no injury turns up after the adrenaline wears off ...
Oppy
September 24, 2023 at 04:19 pm
Passed the final.
The Packers have the QB of the future... they've 'done it again'.
13TimeChamps
September 24, 2023 at 01:36 pm
Detroit has held Atlanta's vaunted rushing attack to 20 yards in the first half. And more importantly, 3 points. I guess having a good run defense has its merits.
Leatherhead
September 24, 2023 at 01:47 pm
And we've held New Orleans to 54 yards on 15 carries.....not even 4 yards a carry. It's really helped us.
MooPack
September 24, 2023 at 02:13 pm
Point lost
PackfanNY
September 24, 2023 at 01:40 pm
We spent all half time and that’s what LaFleur drew up? A 7 yard loss?
13TimeChamps
September 24, 2023 at 01:40 pm
Another drive. Another penalty.
egbertsouse
September 24, 2023 at 01:40 pm
Back to hero ball already.
Oppy
September 24, 2023 at 03:21 pm
I was not fond of the playcalling today at all.
They persevered regardless of the play calling.
I think MLF is a better coach than most give him credit, but today.. MLF was making it really hard on the offense.
SicSemperTyrannis
September 24, 2023 at 03:54 pm
Agreed. Pretty amazing there weren't more interceptions. Would have liked to have seen more high probability plays especially passes to Musgrave and RBs.
Trying to run it and then you do basically the same thing two and three times in a row; that's never going to work against a defense like this.
Oppy
September 24, 2023 at 04:26 pm
I agree, there was zero attempt to get Love into a rhythm. One thing we know about Love at this point is it takes him a few drives to get in sync with the offense.
MLF took early drive success and destroyed momentum with poor 4th down decisions instead of taking the FGs and building off the success; then he started running an air-raid offensive instead of allowing Love to get into a groove with high percentage passing and a balanced attack.
Luckily, it worked out and Love found his sweet spot regardless- bu MLF did little to help him out today. A total turn around from the first two games of the season where I felt MLF's play calling was very positive.
All in all, today could have been a debacle, but it turned into a solid character-building win that will help this young team grow, with a lot of ugly to highlight and learn from.
KurtMc
September 24, 2023 at 01:40 pm
Having a defense coordinator has more merit…
And another false start…. Int.
Ugh not pretty
Leatherhead
September 24, 2023 at 01:41 pm
Clifford would not be much worse at this point. I'm disappointed in Love today.
13TimeChamps
September 24, 2023 at 01:41 pm
Welcome to the NFL Mr. Love.
Oppy
September 24, 2023 at 03:21 pm
Indeed.
This guy is baller.
Needs to start faster.
Esquetoi
September 24, 2023 at 04:02 pm
In the critical moments he did it with his own legs and spun it for cash money.
splitpea1
September 24, 2023 at 01:42 pm
This is a professional level offensive game plan, even with the penalties?
dje
September 24, 2023 at 01:42 pm
Look like MLF had us ready after a halftime speech to fire us up. Run for loss, penalty and an interception.
Lphill
September 24, 2023 at 01:43 pm
Love does not look comfortable.
SinceLombardi
September 24, 2023 at 01:43 pm
Way to get them ready for the 2nd half MLF.
albert999
September 24, 2023 at 01:44 pm
Watch party is the only fun part of this game
KurtMc
September 24, 2023 at 01:47 pm
We have the Saints right where they want us….
Leatherhead
September 24, 2023 at 01:48 pm
We're in position for a comeback.
13TimeChamps
September 24, 2023 at 01:48 pm
It'll be interesting to see how Love responds after the INT. Having ONE complete drive without a penalty might help.
13TimeChamps
September 24, 2023 at 01:50 pm
Well, so much for that. First play, another penalty.
Qoojo
September 24, 2023 at 01:52 pm
Offense summation: Penalties or Love off target
13TimeChamps
September 24, 2023 at 01:52 pm
This has to be LaFluer's worst game ever. You have to have the team better prepared than this. It's actually embarrassing to be honest.
Leatherhead
September 24, 2023 at 02:00 pm
I agree this is the worst LaFleur game yet, and that includes the game against the Chargers where the offensive line was hung over, over even the two openers where we got waxed 30something to 3.
Oppy
September 24, 2023 at 03:22 pm
I agree.
With that said.. it IS the youngest team in the NFL, and they do not have their veteran players on the field due to injury.
joejetson
September 24, 2023 at 01:52 pm
Over half of the penalties are non-action penalties. Illegal motion, unsportsmanlike, illegal formation. That is just poor coaching, lack of discipline, plain old bad football. We can blame Barry, but the buck stops with PePe LeFleur. Up to NINE penalties with nine minutes left in 3rd quarter. Unacceptable.
Lare
September 24, 2023 at 01:52 pm
Jordan Love is pretty bad.
Oppy
September 24, 2023 at 03:22 pm
Is he though?
Lphill
September 24, 2023 at 01:53 pm
Lefluer is really showing us how smart he is without Rodgers .
Qoojo
September 24, 2023 at 01:57 pm
It all started with the bad decision to go for it on 4th and 2 in 1st quarter, which flipped field position and got the saints offense going with a short field + Clark's moronic penalty.
bottlefliper
September 24, 2023 at 03:41 pm
hahahah.....compared to a weak chemtrailer who is afraid of science MLF is a freaking hero. AR would have lost that one big and he would complain about the rookies, the weather and the planes of course. And then he would call Rogan so he can explain the world to him. A guy who might even be dumber than you.
Thanks God we got a leader, a better QB than AR and a 10 time better person. Lombardi would be so proud.
bottlefliper
September 24, 2023 at 03:43 pm
Whithout the flatearther everyone enjoy football again, the lockerroom, the fans and you can even let the kids watch again. What a blessing
Qoojo
September 24, 2023 at 01:58 pm
At this point, I wonder if there is a betting line in vegas for Packers offense not getting a penalty on one drive.
Qoojo
September 24, 2023 at 02:05 pm
Nice to see some passes to RB
Leatherhead
September 24, 2023 at 02:10 pm
Major League connection from Love to Doubs. Super catch.
I appreciate what Taylor gave us right before that, but we might want to think about stopping the clock by going out of bounds.
Leatherhead
September 24, 2023 at 02:10 pm
The 4th quarter would be more interesting if we got into the endzone here.
Packers1985
September 24, 2023 at 02:14 pm
With Carr injured if the packer's def doesn't let the saints score it'll be interesting
KurtMc
September 24, 2023 at 02:15 pm
No words.
Since'61
September 24, 2023 at 02:16 pm
Another 4th and 2 with poor execution. This time by Taylor. Why did he stop? Today is all on coaching. How do they allow all these mental errors? Packers have stopped themselves all game.
Thanks, Since '61
13TimeChamps
September 24, 2023 at 02:16 pm
Kick the damn FG so you're only 2 scores down. WTF? A totally wasted 82 yard drive.
Now we have to score 3 times instead of 2 to get back into it.
Packers1985
September 24, 2023 at 02:17 pm
Yikes bad throw by Love
Qoojo
September 24, 2023 at 02:21 pm
Love has been off the whole game. Even several completions, he was behind the WR.
Packers1985
September 24, 2023 at 02:25 pm
Yes but my bad that was on Taylor more than it is on Love
SicSemperTyrannis
September 24, 2023 at 04:05 pm
I'll disagree. Regardless how they practiced that route, Patrick running into the defender to catch the ball would've been bad. He passed the sticks and was open. JL10 should've put it on him.
splitpea1
September 24, 2023 at 02:17 pm
Why not kick the field goal? Three scores are needed, anyway, and it would have gotten rid of the goose egg. We had a very long drive and got absolutely nothing out of it.
egbertsouse
September 24, 2023 at 02:18 pm
Spot on.
Qoojo
September 24, 2023 at 02:20 pm
Wasn't it madden that said, "the first points are always the toughest to get"?
Leatherhead
September 24, 2023 at 02:17 pm
Ah....crap
egbertsouse
September 24, 2023 at 02:17 pm
This team was not ready to play. That’s on the coaching staff.
SwedeBayPacker
September 24, 2023 at 02:18 pm
Rookie team (down five key-players). Give them a couple of years, they'll be fine.
Oppy
September 24, 2023 at 04:29 pm
Yup.. this team has a real chance to be a power house in a year or two.
egbertsouse
September 24, 2023 at 02:20 pm
They did not field the punt and still managed to get a penalty.
SicSemperTyrannis
September 24, 2023 at 04:07 pm
The game is won by whoever gets the most penalties, right? We're WAY ahead!
Leatherhead
September 24, 2023 at 02:20 pm
Yet another punt return penalty. Good thing we just don't fair catch and avoid that.
PackBacker
September 24, 2023 at 02:23 pm
Everything would be great if we could just play the Bears every week.
Leatherhead
September 24, 2023 at 02:26 pm
On the bright side, we've stuffed the run. Only 68 yards on 20 attempts.....under 3.5 yards/attempt.
Qoojo
September 24, 2023 at 02:26 pm
Yet another bad throw by Love.
Oppy
September 24, 2023 at 04:32 pm
It's too bad very few people had the balls to comment on every ball the other guy threw that was at a player's ankles, behind the WR, under thrown forcing the target to stop, or the horrible screen pass thrown as a bullet that made it virtually un-catchable.
Qoojo
September 24, 2023 at 05:59 pm
Love was throwing consistently behind the WR. There is another later by someone asking if WRs caught any contested balls. There were so many contested ball, not by design, simply because Love was off target most of the game.
But finally got it under control soon enough to win the game.
Oppy
September 24, 2023 at 07:45 pm
The other guy was consistently throwing behind WRs on crossers, at their ankles, etc and so forth as well. I don't know what to tell you.
Qoojo
September 25, 2023 at 11:34 am
Watson? Yea, I guess there is a reason he doesn't start.
egbertsouse
September 24, 2023 at 02:27 pm
Have the GB receivers made a contested catch all day ?
Leatherhead
September 24, 2023 at 02:29 pm
No, it'd be 17-6.
egbertsouse
September 24, 2023 at 02:32 pm
Huh?
Qoojo
September 24, 2023 at 02:57 pm
There was one finally on the go-ahead catch by Doubs.
albert999
September 24, 2023 at 02:28 pm
Pe pe lafleur has to go
13TimeChamps
September 24, 2023 at 02:29 pm
We've held NO to 163 total yards and are losing by 14. What a weird, bizarre game.
Qoojo
September 24, 2023 at 02:29 pm
Don't forget about punt return for TD
Leatherhead
September 24, 2023 at 02:30 pm
Easily avoidable, but we choose to give them that chance.
Qoojo
September 24, 2023 at 02:31 pm
Need pick 6
Leatherhead
September 24, 2023 at 02:31 pm
They're going to have to put a chain on Gary.
egbertsouse
September 24, 2023 at 02:35 pm
Let’s see if the WRs can hold on to one for a change.
13TimeChamps
September 24, 2023 at 02:36 pm
Anyone sensing a comeback? Anyone? Such a weird game....hey who knows?
Oppy
September 24, 2023 at 04:36 pm
Oddly, at 2:19pm (central) I texted a close friend and stated: "I'm feeling a momentum swing.. or is it just me?"
This was right after they drove into the red zone but MLF declined to take the FG yet again.. but the Offense was starting to move the ball and the defense was stone walling the Saints' offense.
Spidey senses were tingling. :)
Rebecca
September 24, 2023 at 02:37 pm
We better get 2 min.drill going. Need a couple of scores quick. 8 minutes left.
SicSemperTyrannis
September 24, 2023 at 04:09 pm
You rang?
MooPack
September 24, 2023 at 02:38 pm
It’s about damn time they threw a
Flag on the Saints DBs.
Qoojo
September 24, 2023 at 02:40 pm
Packers get anywhere in redzone, then play like they have to get it in endzone on one play. Pass Pass Pass.
egbertsouse
September 24, 2023 at 02:41 pm
Hang on to the ball 11!!!!!
Qoojo
September 24, 2023 at 02:43 pm
Why would you go for 2?
edit: My guess is some probability thing says that you are more likely to convert at least one of two 2-point conversions which would make it even.
Leatherhead
September 24, 2023 at 02:44 pm
I think it was a bad move,but it worked. If it had failed, it's STILL not a one score game.
13TimeChamps
September 24, 2023 at 02:45 pm
My thought as well. Very odd call. Thankfully they converted.
SicSemperTyrannis
September 24, 2023 at 04:12 pm