2022 CHTV Watch Party: Packers vs Commanders

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Rossonero's picture

October 23, 2022 at 09:48 am

I don't understand why any Packers fan would look past the Commanders in this game. We almost lost at home last season to them when Taylor Heinicke was their starting QB.

Couple that with the fact that the Commanders have a pretty formidable defensive line, similar to the Jets: Montez Sweat, the two DTs from Alabama in Jonathan Allen and DaRon Payne, and it could be another long day for our O-line. (We should also thank our lucky stars that Chase Young is still not back yet from his torn ACL).

Rodgers doesn't trust his O-line or his WRs right now, which has led to this disaster of an offense. Add to that that LaFleur refuses to run this offense through Aaron Jones and AJ Dillon and you have a recipe for disaster. It also sounds like Bakhtiari's knee flared up again, but maybe Nijman can rotate back to LT and we can see Jenkins move back to LG next week.

We just can't seem to block anyone right now -- and defenses are completely fine with playing only one safety deep and bringing the other down into the box to stuff the run.

Regretfully, my prediction: Commanders 19, Packers 13.

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Oppy's picture

October 23, 2022 at 11:40 am

"Add to that that LaFleur refuses to run this offense through Aaron Jones and AJ Dillon and you have a recipe for disaster."

People need to stop with this "LeFleur refuses to run the ball" idea.
Here's my three proofs it's probably not LeFleur:

1) Respected analysts far and wide say the Packers run more RPO's than any other NFL team right now. Last week, someone said the amount of RPO's they run is more in line with what you'd see from a college offense. RPO = Run/Pass OPTION. That's the QB making the decision at the LOS at the snap of the ball to Run or Pass.

2) Just two weeks ago, Aaron Jones told the media that between himself and AJ Dillion, he'd always bet the bank that they would gain 2 yards with 2 downs to do so. That's great, NFL players should have that confidence. The more insightful comment Jones made was his follow up statement: "Of course, I don't know everything that Aaron is seeing out there." The implication is clear: Rodgers is the man deciding if they're going to run it or pass it. See #1.

3) We had the exact. same. issues. with under utilization of the run game under Mike McCarthy, who also famously said 'we need to get more rush attempts' after nearly every game. That's two different HC's, two different offensive schemes. Same scenario. Oh, and for good measure, a total of 5 different offensive coordinators with Rodgers at the helm, including Edgar freaking Bennet. I would submit that it's more likely the QB, who has been the constant, is the issue with commitment to the run, as opposed to every combination of HC and OC over the last 12 years.

Extra context:

We all know MM famously "handed Aaron the keys" to the offense in 2010/2011. No one has ever been able to take them back (Except for a 2-3 week stint in 2015 where MM was so disgusted with Tom Clements' handling of the offense and submission to an increasingly defiant Aaron Rodgers that MM took back play calling duties, took away Rodgers' ability to audible out of the play call, and even went so far one week to forbid Rodgers to make adjustments that weren't part of designed play. The Packers offense started to hum again, and MM gave control back to Rodgers.) I still contend it was that 2-3 week period in 2015 that set the stage for Rodgers to completely submarine MM. He never forgave MM for daring to challenge his autonomy, and moreover, it was a massive blow to Rodgers' ego because MM proved he was RIGHT.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 23, 2022 at 01:52 pm

AR is 9 of 15 with 4 or 5 drops, including a drive killer by Lazard.

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Packers1985's picture

October 23, 2022 at 11:25 am

Another bummer Bakh is out today. Not only it impedes the chance of reshuffling now the whole oline is the weak link no continuity at all. Though we have Jenkins who is good oline is mostly Rhythm based us continuously shuffling the oline either becoz of the injuries or too much to trail and test has only failed previous years.

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jfrogwi's picture

October 23, 2022 at 11:28 am

I still want Newman out of the lineup, but I expect they won’t make that move today.
Nijman-Jenkins-Myers-Runyan-Tom is who I’d run out there with.

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Packers1985's picture

October 23, 2022 at 11:32 am

Yes even with Bakh out today atleast they should try Tom in for newmann. How worse he can be than Newmann.

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PatrickGB's picture

October 23, 2022 at 03:43 pm

I thought that the line did well considering.

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Packers1985's picture

October 23, 2022 at 12:08 pm

The wr's should make such catches. To be considered a top wr Lazard is expected to make that catch.

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Packers1985's picture

October 23, 2022 at 12:30 pm

Amari rodgers needs to go ... As simple as that

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jannes bjornson's picture

October 23, 2022 at 12:32 pm

Two years ago. This is what we mean by stasis @ 1265 Lombardi Ave.

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Packerlifer's picture

October 23, 2022 at 12:43 pm

Rogers is returning punts only because he can’t crack the receiver corps and they have to have him do something while they wait out the duration of him being a bust. But since he can’t really help the return game they need to put someone there who won’t hurt them.

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PackyCheese500's picture

October 23, 2022 at 12:36 pm

Both defense and offense looking good so far. Tom looks good, Amari needs to go

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Since'61's picture

October 23, 2022 at 12:36 pm

What will it take for the Packers to chuck Amari Rodgers??? Thanks, Since ‘61

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jannes bjornson's picture

October 23, 2022 at 01:06 pm

A new GM

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PackyCheese500's picture

October 23, 2022 at 12:47 pm

YOOO DEVONDRE PICK 6!

ARE THE PACKERS BACK?

I mean, I know it’s the commanders, but they already look significantly better and energized than they did the last couple of weeks.

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Packers1985's picture

October 23, 2022 at 12:51 pm

Mostly it's becoz Hieniekie seems to be throwing alot in to our Db's . We almost had 2 more picks this game. But again i see walker used to blitz so things definitely seems to have changed.

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PackyCheese500's picture

October 23, 2022 at 01:11 pm

Yes. Even though it’s the Commanders, the Packers look much more energized today

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Since'61's picture

October 23, 2022 at 12:49 pm

There we go defense!!! Great pick and score by Campbell!!
Thanks, Since ‘61

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PackyCheese500's picture

October 23, 2022 at 12:55 pm

Droppped INTs are something the Packers DBs need to work on. Jaire dropped one, and Douglas dropped 4(!)

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Packers1985's picture

October 23, 2022 at 01:01 pm

3 picks dropped by our Db's today.

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jannes bjornson's picture

October 23, 2022 at 01:12 pm

Stokes targeted again on the pick play for six.

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Packers1985's picture

October 23, 2022 at 01:14 pm

This defense looks really good in some drives and once the Running game sets in they give up big plays. This has been the Achilles heel for our defense.

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Packers1985's picture

October 23, 2022 at 01:19 pm

Nijman seems to be struggling two penalities this game

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Cheesedogg's picture

October 23, 2022 at 01:22 pm

Things were going good and then boom. Hope the pack handles it and doesn’t fold like they have in almost every game

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Packerlifer's picture

October 23, 2022 at 01:55 pm

Unfortunately just ahead is the point where the Packers have been at their worst this season. The second half.

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PackyCheese500's picture

October 23, 2022 at 01:23 pm

Gary has now had a sack and a forced fumble negated by penalties this season. What a stupid penalty by stokes.

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PackyCheese500's picture

October 23, 2022 at 01:26 pm

The announcer just called Kenny Clark Kenny Walker

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PackyCheese500's picture

October 23, 2022 at 01:27 pm

Quay and Douglas have been great this half

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PackyCheese500's picture

October 23, 2022 at 01:27 pm

I’m hearing Go Pack Go in the Washington field! Lol

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Cheesedogg's picture

October 23, 2022 at 01:28 pm

Rasul getting it done!

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PackyCheese500's picture

October 23, 2022 at 01:37 pm

Anyone else think that Daryl Johnston has been a horrible announcer today?

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Packerlifer's picture

October 23, 2022 at 01:52 pm

I turn down the tv volume and tune in to Larrivee & McCarren on radio.

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Cheesedogg's picture

October 23, 2022 at 01:43 pm

This offense is just bad…really bad

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Packers1985's picture

October 23, 2022 at 01:44 pm

Too many penalties.

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jannes bjornson's picture

October 23, 2022 at 01:58 pm

They have to deal for Jeudy

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13TimeChamps's picture

October 23, 2022 at 01:53 pm

Green Bay's drives this half. (Believe me, I wish I was making this up):

5 plays - 17 yds
7 plays - 42 yds TD
3 plays - 4 yds
3 plays - neg 15 yds
4 plays - neg 2 yds
1 play - 5 yds

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13TimeChamps's picture

October 23, 2022 at 01:55 pm

Oh yeah...and the defense has already given up 100 yards on the ground.

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Since'61's picture

October 23, 2022 at 01:56 pm

Between the officiating and our pathetic offense this game is unwatchable. We are essentially watching the Packers without Aaron Rodgers because he is just not getting it done unless he gets a defensive penalty.

75 yards of offense in the first half is unacceptable. The OL is still a mess. If the Packers hang on to win it will be Washington beating themselves which they seem to be very capable of doing. Thanks, Since ‘61

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Oppy's picture

October 23, 2022 at 02:00 pm

I don't think the OL is a mess. I'm actually kind of impressed they're doing as well as they are all things considered.

Nijman is playing like a guy who hasn't played in a while. Must stop grabbing. But otherwise? Not so bad.

Side note: considering a number of posters here at CHTV were calling out that Zach Tom must be a bust because the Packers couldn't even slide him in at RG so far.. for the Packers to debut him at LT is a massive vote of confidence in the young man. I guess we now know what the Packers have been thinking about Zack Tom's future.

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13TimeChamps's picture

October 23, 2022 at 02:07 pm

I hear ya '61. Remember when the Packers were fun to watch? How a team can completely fall off the rails like this is beyond comprehension. This team was in the NFCCG game two years ago and won 13 games last year. WTF????

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NJ-RICK's picture

October 23, 2022 at 01:56 pm

This team is in serious trouble... This offense is atrocious... Time to start scheduling other activities on Sunday to painful to watch. Good luck guys its going to be a long painful season. Its time to get rid of upper mgt.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 23, 2022 at 01:58 pm

Aaron Jones with 3 carries for 14 yards on the opening drive plus a reception for 3 yards, but the drive was killed by a Lazard drop. Bend don't break. GB made a mistake and can't overcome.

Jones now has 14 yards on 6 carries. Gains some, loses some. No deep passes that i can remember except the uncatchable to Watkins.

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Packerlifer's picture

October 23, 2022 at 02:03 pm

Too much throwing behind the line when their defense is getting penetration.

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Packerlifer's picture

October 23, 2022 at 02:01 pm

The Packers have given the Commandos every reason to believe they can win today. The start to the second half could decide the outcome.

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Packerlifer's picture

October 23, 2022 at 02:01 pm

The Packers have given the Commandos every reason to believe they can win today. The start to the second half could decide the outcome.

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Coach Cleve Steamer's picture

October 23, 2022 at 02:04 pm

Hand it to 33 then throw it hero style nowhere near catchable. $50,000,000 for this. 😝

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 23, 2022 at 02:05 pm

Rashan! Stats are nice, set the damn edge!!!!

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Cheesedogg's picture

October 23, 2022 at 02:09 pm

Oh boy. I should have stained my deck today.

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Packers1985's picture

October 23, 2022 at 02:10 pm

Since one good half of defense is done. Now we gave up a TD. All the teams with no name qb's or shorthanded on wr's teams ran at will at us and score when setting up the run.

Coming offense if run game stalls the offense stalls and to make matter's worse penalties on oline killing drives. We ran that successfull drive very well and scored a TD that's about it after that their dline is getting the penetration

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PackNoPunch's picture

October 23, 2022 at 02:10 pm

30 years of 2 Hall of Fame QBs and only 2 Super Bowl rings. This is an upper management problem, sports fans. Murphy should be first to go.

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jannes bjornson's picture

October 23, 2022 at 02:12 pm

Sternberger orMcLaurin, you make the call, Gute ??

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13TimeChamps's picture

October 23, 2022 at 02:13 pm

If ever there was a time for Rodgers/MLF to step up...this is it.

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Packerlifer's picture

October 23, 2022 at 02:17 pm

The Pack needs further simplification. The Lombardi method: gentlemen, this is a football…

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 23, 2022 at 02:18 pm

This is not a team that can go down the field dinking and dunking due to the mistakes. Can't pick a 3rd and 8, either. Inaccurate pass to Doubs coupled with a drop to end another drive. AR needs to make things easier for the rookie WRs, and Doubs needs to help he QB out more. GB has a way of compounding their errors and misdemeanors into drive killers.

Washington with a lot of plays and TOP tipping in their favor.

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Packers1985's picture

October 23, 2022 at 02:25 pm

Too many mistakes on offense. Either it's the qb or oline or wr drops things not looking good no sync all together

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Cwilly's picture

October 23, 2022 at 02:27 pm

This isn’t all on Rodgers. He has no weapons besides his running backs. He hasn’t played well but we are paying an offensive tackle who doesn’t play. The line is awful. The defense is tired and knew Washington would play good since Heineke is much better than Weintz. This is the packers offense and will be with or without Rodgers. So fans better get use to it. It’s only gonna get worse when Packers play the elite teams in the league. Also coaching is horrid wasting your challenges in a close game. I thought Lafluer was a good coach but it was Rodgers running this offense last two years and know he’s showing his age so this now you see how inept this offense is when Rodgers isn’t elite anymore. Packers Super Bowl window has closed and had their chance the last two years and blew it.

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fastmoving's picture

October 23, 2022 at 02:42 pm

the chemtrailer was not elite as MLF arrived. he was never a good leader, his trust BS was crazy and he always had way more weapons than most top 10 QB. he became a diva long ago and that was the end. the chrackhead ivermectin stuff made it worse. he would be better of if he had host his lame smartasssss tv show, as smart as he thinks he is.....

worst rolmodel in the world....

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Cwilly's picture

October 23, 2022 at 02:48 pm

Don’t disagree one but he’s not a role model or person I would look up to in life. Not a good person outside of football. All I’m saying is that he’s showing age and a good coach would know what to do with an aging qb. Lafluer doesn’t know how to adjust during a game or use the talent he has on this team to run his offense. Rodgers is old with a coach that also is stale running an offense or adjusting to what he has. Run the ball with jones every play until it doesn’t work is my opinion of this offense.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 23, 2022 at 02:27 pm

Packers 0-5 on third down with 2 drops that would have converted for a first down. Defense on the field too long.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 23, 2022 at 02:32 pm

WA with TOP of 29 minutes. GB with 15 minutes.

WA with 30 rushing attempts. GB with 10.

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Oppy's picture

October 23, 2022 at 03:40 pm

Yup.

And GB finished the day with 12 total rush attempts.

12.

With AJ Dillon and Aaron Jones.

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Packers0808's picture

October 23, 2022 at 02:33 pm

Timw e to bench Rodgers thumb worse than let on Put in Love can't do worse by no means!

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Packerlifer's picture

October 23, 2022 at 02:35 pm

Just think: Dan Snyders organization is besting Mark Murphys!

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showmefan's picture

October 23, 2022 at 02:36 pm

I think the whole team has quit. Put a fork in them!!!!

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Packers1985's picture

October 23, 2022 at 02:44 pm

you can't blame this on Rodgers. If doubs cant hold the ball too many drops by this wr core. You cant be dropping a a 4th and 1 and expect the qb to trust. There you go another nice drive stalled.
Only a miracle from defense can win this game like pick six

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Oppy's picture

October 23, 2022 at 03:41 pm

Yeah, I can blame Rodgers.
Throw the ball to the guys on the field. All of them.

Shit happens. Can't blackball your wideouts because they had a drop. You have to trust your team mates. All of them. Period.

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Cheesedogg's picture

October 23, 2022 at 02:45 pm

Would like to see Dillon 4th and 1 but if you can’t block I guess it doesn’t matter

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Packerlifer's picture

October 23, 2022 at 02:46 pm

4rh & 1, Jones on your team, line up in shotgun, pass incomplete to rookie who can’t hang on when hit!

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Cheesedogg's picture

October 23, 2022 at 02:49 pm

Losing it in all phases

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 23, 2022 at 02:49 pm

Their receivers are sooo open. Our WRs never are because no respect for a deep pass.

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Oppy's picture

October 23, 2022 at 03:42 pm

You get your WRs open looks by making a defense honor the run, not by throwing the ball deep.

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Packerlifer's picture

October 23, 2022 at 02:54 pm

The further the season and each game goes on the more unraveled this team gets. The LaFleur of January is now invading the regular season.

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crayzpackfan's picture

October 23, 2022 at 02:59 pm

Here’s some “simplicity” for you. We are witnessing an epic decline at the QB position. No bashing, no personal attacks, no diva accusations crap, he’s just missing so many throws. High, low, left or right. Even the PI flag was picked up cuz his throw was uncatchable. Online played very well. No excuses for making so many bad throws. Sux! But here we are.
Cut #8.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 23, 2022 at 02:59 pm

Amari Rodgers is the first WR to help his QB.

Edit: And then drops the TD pass.

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crayzpackfan's picture

October 23, 2022 at 03:19 pm

You’re one of my favorite folks on this forum, but yes, even you can choke on your own foot now and then. Great throw to AJ for a TD though.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 23, 2022 at 03:01 pm

One step forward, one or two backwards, all game.

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Packers1985's picture

October 23, 2022 at 03:08 pm

It's too late i am afraid. With 3 mins left it's a challenge to stop their run and then our offense getting in to scoring zone for FG i doubt it happens

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Packerlifer's picture

October 23, 2022 at 03:08 pm

One hope now. The Commanders find a way to beat themselves in the final minutes. They are just the team to do it.

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Cheesedogg's picture

October 23, 2022 at 03:09 pm

Can the D get a stop at crunch time?

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Packers1985's picture

October 23, 2022 at 03:13 pm

Expecting alot from this defense when the offense usually scores defense doesn't hold up.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 23, 2022 at 03:11 pm

Need to push him out of bounds, Amos.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 23, 2022 at 03:17 pm

Not quite a dagger. Jaire vs. McLaurin with enormous pressure on Heinecke and it is good for a first down. Strength on strength and it went Washington's way. Credit to Heinecke and McLaurin. Need a mistake or huge play.

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Cwilly's picture

October 23, 2022 at 03:17 pm

How is the packer defense the only defense in a decade to give up 3rd and long for a first every time it matters. It’s their kryptonite and getting old. Playoffs regular season this is the only defense that continually gives up that play. So when we bash Rodgers remember he’s dealt with the same play for a decade to cost them games while he watches. He’s not what he used to be but he always has that 3rd and long you know will turn into a first down.

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Packers1985's picture

October 23, 2022 at 03:20 pm

We have given up so many 3rd and longs this last 3-4 games. The teams run good against this team and then sets up the pass

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 23, 2022 at 03:22 pm

Punted it instead of trying a 54 yard field goal.

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ddepula418's picture

October 23, 2022 at 03:26 pm

Out coached and out played AGAIN!

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Packers1985's picture

October 23, 2022 at 03:29 pm

We have a worst offense and bad defense. Offense cant get any momentum and score points. Too many mistakes be it qb or wr's drops or oline holds.

Coming to Defense this defense gets run down by no name qb's all year long. Very poor football team atleast some struggling teams have a good one side of the ball. We are playing poor on both sides of the ball and defense playing slightly better than the offense that's it.

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Packers1985's picture

October 23, 2022 at 03:32 pm

Offense can't get 3rd downs and defense cant stop on 3rd and longs. That has been the story for this season.
Dont say it's a long season and we still have time no we dont. There is no way this team can make to playoffs this year.
May be it's time to pick up some picks by trading few ppl.

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LambeauPlain's picture

October 23, 2022 at 03:34 pm

Lousy coaching.
Players playing like they hate the O or D scheme they are playing.
Playmakers looking very pedestrian.
MVP playing like PVM (Poor Very Messy...have another cup of $50 Mil tea!).

Been interesting with so many intelligent CH fan comments...but I am out for a while. This team is submerged in negativity. Team, fans, writers...why invest in this negative shit...simply schadenfreude now.

Better things to do. Later Packer Fans!

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uncle10's picture

October 23, 2022 at 03:35 pm

Brutal. We are stuck with a useless Relic with a 40's Nazi haircut, he blames everyone else and can't convert a 3rd down. Salary Cap is shot for years. Go Pack Go.

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Coach Cleve Steamer's picture

October 23, 2022 at 03:39 pm

LaFleur better find some answers. Game ovaaaaaaaaah!

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egbertsouse's picture

October 23, 2022 at 03:40 pm

If The Flower says “We got to run the ball more “ or “Jones needs more touches “ somebody please punch him in the eyebrows.

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egbertsouse's picture

October 23, 2022 at 03:41 pm

Has the Romeo Doubs hype-train finally derailed?

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