What sucks is you can't respond to some of their jeers with; "Oh, yeah, when's the last time YOU won the Superbowl."

I can't believe people from Jersey could be loud and disgusting . And why do I visualize you having to pry Aaron out of a headlock at some point.

As far as Aaron not talking to you about anything but football, consider that a good thing.:)

This is brilliant, more please!

One quibble, if we did kick the cheesehead "Mason Crosby style," it'd go wide left of their asses.

Behavior at sporting events seems to have regressed a lot in the last five years. Maybe that's just my perception and not reality. That's what I tell myself, anyway.

I think the neanderthals know that they hold all the power. Most "normal" fans are too nice to say anything to the obnoxious ones and don't want to tattle to security. Punching them in the face will just land you in jail.

Just be thankful that you don't live in Minnesota and have to endure the oh-so-clever "Why do you cheer for the FUDGE PACKERS?!?!?" quips.

I've heard a couple of comments about me being "too sensitive". Trust me, its true. Often I can be too sensitive. I'm certainly very sensitive about racist comments. And homophobic ones. And worse still, downright flipping stupid ones. So if that makes me too sensitive, then guilty as charged. I thought that getting rid of the old stadium might also eliminate the "get yer tits out" mentality. How naive of me.

Well done, Mrs Nagler. Feel free to drop us a few lines now and again. I really enjoyed your perspective.

Hear, hear. Haven't been to a Giants game but I've been to Met Life for a Jets-Packers game and those fans are obnoxious. Not so much violent or threatening as just boorish and stupidly proud of it. It was the kind of reception I was expecting to get in Philadelphia when we traveled there for the 2010 playoff game, but Philly's legendarily vicious fans were actually quite mild (one isolated but scary punching incident and a flicked cigarette aside). One Eagles guy told us he was being nice to us specifically because we were Packer fans and he remembered how friendly everyone was to him when he attended a game at Lambeau. EAT THAT, FANS OF THE OTHER 31.

Growing up as a Packer fan in NJ/NYC, I've dealt with Giants fans all my life. They're relentless, idiotic, and offensive.

At last years Packers-Giants game at MetLife, I was racially abused on the train ride back to Secaucus from MetLife. A group of drunk Giants fans, upset at their loss, decided to pick on me (I was dressed in full Packers attire). "Chink" and "Pikachu" (the Pokemon) were directed at me, since I'm Asian.

I just pretended like they weren't even there, and eventually a few Packer fans on the train told them to simply, "shut the fuck up."

This year, however, it was different. Fans in my section were nice to me throughout, and I had some intelligent, fun conversations with a few about the game. Friendly banter. As I was leaving the game, an elder Giants fan behind me even said, "Have a good night," in a very sincere tone.

Maturity reigns.

Mrs Nagler...
Nice to meet you. I have had the pleasure of attending packer games at Soldier field, Metlife, Fedex, the Linc, and raymond james. By FAR the worst "Fans" I have encountered were in DC. I nearly got into a brawl with the entire row I was sitting in and was told that Green bay is a worse place to live than Iraq!!
But a close second was my experience at metlife last year. I sat in a section FULL of one entire mob family. It was hiddious(much like my spelling). Even the children where allowed to curse and use foul language while at the game. After a few beers I started to get offended by some of the comments and had a few choice things to say. At which point one of the older members of the family curously dissapeared. when he returned he had a member of security with him and the security guy told me to come with him. He then informed me that I was being ejected from the game for mmultiple complaints!! WHAT THE HELL??? This is not "packer people". So I told him that I had to go back and get my brother in law and my stuff from the seat. IN reality I was about to go back and kick off a brawl of my own. I could see that the family had banded togther in typical mob fashion to conspire against me. I was heated and about to blow my lid. I mean I was in section 107, 3 rows from the field and I was being ejected as the result of being berated and deciding to return fire. I felt like I was the second guy to dive on the pile and get the 15 yard penalty. Luckily for me there was a nice giant fan couple sitting in the section next to me who pulled the guard aside on the way back in and stood up for me. SO the usher moved me to a better seat:). I WAS 3rd row at about the 10 yard line and got moved to the 50! It was a nice turn of events. Other fans around the country are not all like this. Even in NY one of the fans in the section I was sitting in saw me at the half and bought me a beer and gave me a hug for the trouble. (Made me feel like crap for wanting to start a brawl) Hell, I even got a pretty good ribbing in chi-town but it was all in good fun. Fans just need to realize that THEY are ruining the fan experience at the game. I have 2 young girls and I may never take them to a game anywhere other than Lambeau. Fans need to Be more polite to others polite. I mean after all the players and coaches can shake hands at the 50 after the game but we have to act like neandrethals in the stands? its a game people!

This:

".....before karate chopping them with my copy of Emily Post’s Etiquette (always keep a copy handy)....."

is fantastic. Can't say I anticipated ever reading that line on this blog. What is the proper etiquette for such a task? You should really add a chapter, details are critical.

This makes me rethink my goal. I recently set a life goal to see the Packers play at every NFL stadium. My experience in St. Louis of this year was beyond positive, but partly due to the masses of cheeseheads in attendance! It felt almost like a home game. I got spoiled attending games at Lambeau, and enjoying the comraderie that games there entail. I'm looking forward to some venues (Metrodome before it's demolished for one, I grew up attending baseball games at that venue but have never seen a football game in the 'marshmellow') and dreading others. I've heard so many horror stories now about Packer fans attending games at Soldier Field that I almost want to try to get last min tix to the game on the 16th to get that over with. Judging by the behavior of Bears fans here (I live in Illinois) when I wear my Packer gear out, the game isn't going to be a pleasant experience unless I luck out and get a group of decent people to sit with. It's a shame really. I can smack talk and rib back and forth with the best of them, but I don't get snide and disrespectful. I'd never throw a racial or gay slur that is for sure! I read about the behavior of some Texans fans at the Houston game and was appalled as well. There are kids at these games, but how long are football games going to remain (if they even still are) a family friendly event?!

LOVED this by the way!! Etiquette has gone right out the window.

Holy crap! Reading this piece changed after the sentence, "I'm from London." It's like all of the sudden I can't read it without imagining it being read with an English accent.

And I can't seem to turn it off. That's just weird.

So, I came to Cheesehead TV some time ago because I found a blogger who thought #4 was turning into an ass as much as I did (Nagler). But now I see the other Nagler is even more talented than the first one! More please :)

I went to Philly game ..season opener 2010 (yeahhh sb season) and the fans were very rude,but not as bad as Pitt. I was walking through the crowd at the Pitt preseason game a few yrs back and I got my Cheesehead slapped off my head and the worst part was....it was a woman. After that....wasn't a big fan. Loved beating them in sb45!

I live in Argentina (I’m sure you’ve heard the stories) so I know about passionate football supporters, and I know how down and dirty they can get. Down here people die every year in fubol related incidents.It is nice to know Packer fans aren't like that. Please don't let violence ruin fotball.

Mad props She-Nag!

GBP 4 LIFE

I've been to Packer games at quite a few stadiums, but I have to give Atlanta a hat tip. Friendly fans that are passionate about their team. Some scattered good natured, and courteous, ribbing. Even during/after the 2010 playoff game, (what was left of) the crowd kept their composure. Only one crazy drunken idiot in the two Packer games I've attended there, and the fans kept him in check until the police cuffed him.

Great piece of writing, trenchant and funny, too. I think Cheesehead TV needs to sign Mrs. Nagler on as a regular contributor.

I had a similar experience at the Giants-Packers game in the Meadowlands last year. A whole posse of drunk, obnoxious Giants fans harassed us the whole damn game. It was very uncomfortable. At least we won; I can only imagine how much worse it would've been if the result had been similar to Sunday's drubbing.

Soldier Field is pretty bad, too. After one game, Bears fans threw partially full beer cans at our car as we exited the parking lot.

It all depends on luck. In every stadium you can get lucky and get into an area of nice fans as much as near the seats of some idiots. Sure the chances of running into idiots might be a bit higher at some places than others, but there are nice people everywhere. The problem is that one bad guy can ruin it for a whole section.

I am from Germany and attended 3 random games on my vacation earlier this year (non-Packers games though) and sat in areas where fans of both teams sat happily right to each other. No bad things happened all around. And I enjoyed it so much more than visiting a "football" match over here (the one with the round ball, you know), where supporters of the visiting team are forced into one small area of the stadium (for their safety).

I hope that you still consider going to see a Packers away game, Ms Nagler, because the next time you could just end up sitting in the right section.

I enjoyed reading this. Thank you, Carolyn.

I went to the game at MetLife last December with some NYC-area friends, and we were shouted down by a cluster of rude, crude Giants fans behind us whenever we cheered for the Packers. Their behavior seemed to reflect the cold, sterile feel of the stadium itself, which gave me the creeps, frankly.

The only other away games I've been to were at San Diego (very nice, mellow fans), Minnesota (not too bad, although the Metrodome was a nightmare), and Chicago (never again).

Anyway, thanks to Carolyn Nagler for her very enjoyable post. (P.S. My maternal grandmother was 100% English and she was the kindest, most decent human being I have ever known.)

Very good writing! loved it!