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Packers Reportedly Re-Sign FB John Kuhn to One-Year Deal

The Green Bay Packers have re-signed fullback John Kuhn, according to several team and NFL beat writers. The deal is reportedly for one year and worth just over $1 million including bonuses and base salary.

Kuhn is 31 years old and enters his ninth season in 2014. 

For the first few weeks of free agency Kuhn tested the market, but based upon the size and length of his contract, he didn't appear to gain much interest from other NFL teams.

At a position that's becoming less and less utilized in the NFL, Kuhn has found a way to carve out a role with the Packers. His biggest contributions would probably be his pass protection in one-back sets for quarterback Aaron Rodgers with evidence pointing to his chip block of new teammate Julius Peppers in last year's regular-season finale on a play where the Packers scored the game-winning touchdown.

Kuhn also fills a variety of smaller niche roles from lead blocker for Eddie Lacy to short-yardage ball carrier to special team contributor to locker-room leader.

This past season, Kuhn had just 10 carries for 38 yards (3.8 ypc) and one touchdown, which represented his fewest amount of carries since 2008. He also added 13 catches for 81 yards out of the backfield.

While the amount of times Kuhn has touched the football has decreased, his value as a run blocker improved in 2013, ranking second among all NFL fullbacks, according to ProFootballFocus.com (premium content).

Signed to just a one-year contract, Kuhn's long-term outlook in Green Bay would appear to be in question. The Packers may take a year-by-year approach with the fullback position before choosing to go in another direction.

Among the team's 17 unrestricted free agents entering the negotiation period, Kuhn is the sixth to return to the Packers, joining cornerback Sam Shields, defensive lineman B.J. Raji, linebacker Mike Neal, tight end Andrew Quarless and running back James Starks.

Still unsigned are tight end Jermichael Finley, quarterback Matt Flynn, defensive linemen Ryan Pickett and Johnny Jolly, linebacker Rob Francois, quarterback Seneca Wallace and running back Khalil Bell.

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RC Packer Fan's picture

Well that Answers my question. If the Packers would resign Kuhn after they resigned Starks.

Evan's picture

I was a little surprised by how highly his blocking was rated last year. A nice little deal.

Next up: Flynn.

Evan's picture

Also, are we thinking this contract makes him a lock for the final 53?

RC Packer Fan's picture

I also thought the same thing Evan.

I think he will be on the 53, but I'm not going to say its a lock.
If Lacy, Franklin, Harris prove to be much improved as pass blockers, do they cut Kuhn then? Possibly.

Idiot Fan's picture

It's hard to imagine them keeping 4 RBs plus a FB, although maybe it will depend on how many TEs they have on the roster. I would think it's certainly possible that he gets cut depending on how things shake out in camp.

Or, more likely, we'll have, like, 15 guys get hurt in camp and it won't be an issue.

Evan's picture

They kept 6 RBs in 2011 (the year they had 3 FBs). So, 5 isn't out of the question. And this year's 5 would be far and away more talented than those 6. Remember Dimitri Nance?

Idiot Fan's picture

Three FBs, oy, I had locked that memory away in my "Repressed Packer Memories" section of my brain, along with trading up for BJ Sander.

Yeah, I guess it all comes down to how each position group shakes out. Every year there's one that is larger than you would expect. And unless we have an unexpected offensive turn in the draft, it probably won't be TE or WR this year. So maybe.

Evan's picture

"Repressed Packer Memories"

Exactly where it belongs. I mean, seriously, what the hell, Ted...

Evan's picture

Correction: The 3 fullback year was 2009.

L's picture

I agree with both of you.

Him making the team is probably dependent on several things; his willingness to be a key special teams leader and ability to get the job done well there, how D.Harris bounces back from a missed season last year due to injury, how improved the other RBs are in pass blocking, how many TEs they end up deciding to keep, plus the ability for those kept TEs to lead block for the RBs especially in short yardage situations.

Regardless, I'm glad to have him back as he's a true competitor and thankful it won't cost the Pack a future financial penalty beyond this year if he can't make the 53. I also think this might be the kind of deal they look to bring back M.Flynn, J.Jolly, and R.Pickett on.

Stroh's picture

Kuhn has always been a key ST player, that's definitely not going to change. I think he's on virtually every ST unit there is, so his value in that capacity is probably as high as almost anyone on the team.

At this point none of the other RB are remotely close to being as reliable as Kuhn is. Lacy given another year could get there but I don't think it'll happen this year. Harris and Franklin are complete unknowns and may be too small for the role. Starks hasn't been very reliable is his limited opportunities either. They are further away than Lacy is...

The other issue that helps Kuhn is that none of the other RB do anything on ST. They tried Franklin as a returner, but he bombed and was terrible. He and Harris will be given another shot as the KR, but its anyone's guess how they do.

Personally, I think Kuhn will make the team based on those factors. His role just can't be filled that easily by others. It was the same last offseason and I haven't seen anything to change his multi-dimentional roles. Keeping 4 RB and one FB isn't too much especially since none of the RB can do most of the things Kuhn is asked to do.

HankScorpio's picture

I'm glad Kuhn is signed. If a guy is going to only do one thing well, protecting the franchise QB would be the one thing that holds the most value, IMO.

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

I'm glad, but personally surprised, that they signed john Kuhn. I don't think there is room, with all the running backs they now have. I'd be surprised if they all made it. JMO

Evan's picture

5 RBs would be a lot, I agree - but it's definitely possible.

It would only be 1 more RB than last year and they can take that roster space from TE, for example. Last year they kept 4 TEs, I could see 3 this year: Quarless, Bostick and a rookie.

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

Evan, Yeah that makes sense. I sure would like to see 1 Speed Demon in that backfield. We had a guy some years ago from ILL State, I think?? Can't remember his name? He didn't hang around long, but he could fly.

pjslaw@gmail.com's picture

LeShon Johnson, Northern Illinois. He was living proof that there is a lot more to NFL running backs than 4.2 speed.

4thand1's picture

In my neck of the woods, we called him the blur.

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

pjslaw@gmail.com, Just saw the post. Thanks for the reply. Leshon Johnson, that's right. What ever happened to him? My memory is fading. Seems to me, he didn't get much of a chance at GB. We must have had Dorsey Levens. You can talk about Bullet Bob Hays all you want. I'm 66. I believe LeShon Johnson is the fastest football player I've ever seen. 4thand1 was right, when he called him a Blurr. Does anyone know what the deal was with him? I can't remember. If he was No Good as a Running Back, couldn't someone make a Wide Receiver out of him? I don't think there's ever been a Corner in the league that could come anywhere's close to keeping up with him. I think we drafted him. If my memory is right, he led all Division II schools in rushing. Does anyone know what happened to him??

Birney the baker's picture

LVT, there's a new thing called Google. Type in Google.com then type in Leshon Johnson and you'll be amazed. Seriously. Everything you ever wanted to know about him is there.

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

Tom B. Just looked him up. SORRY I DID!! LVT

Birney the baker's picture

Why are you sorry? I was just trying to help as it seems you have alot of questions on things. Google is a treasure trove of information. Much better than relying on windbags like Stroh to answer your questions.

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

Tom B. Nothing to do with you. I'm an Animal lover. He was involved with Dog Fighting. Another Mick Vic. That was enough for me.

Stroh's picture

FYI LV-Tom... Leshon Johnson was very fast, might have been the fastest player in the NFL at that time. The reason he wasn't successful is due to lacking instincts and elusiveness. If he had a big hole he could run forever, but he couldn't read the play, anticipate where and when the hole would open and generally ran right into the back of his OL. Speed itself isn't very important to a RB, but it can help. Emmitt Smith ran over a 4.6 40 but he was ultra successful. Instincts and elusiveness are very important for a RB, much moreso than speed.

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

Stroh, I can't believe someone didn't make him a WR. From what I can remember, the guy was lightning fast. I don't think anyone could have stayed with him.

Having said that, After reading up on him, I could care less now what happened to him. I think the same of him, as I do of Mick Vick. Nothing!!
Anyone involved with Dog Fighting, is Worthless.

Stroh's picture

He couldn't catch the ball either. Terrible hands...

Birney the baker's picture

I do recall he and Travis Jervey had a place up in Shawano when they played in Green Bay. Had some animals up there I believe. Leshon's Dad I think was in the rodeo in OK some where. Didn't know he fought dogs though. Leshon was fast as shit though but he always seemed to outrun his blockers and never waited for the hole to open. I think he was also hurt a lot but he was talented. I do remember he played for AZ after GB and had over 200 yards rushing in a game so I was happy for the guy. I wish no ill will towards him either way.

Stroh's picture

In case you haven't noticed, and apparently you haven't since you've been too busy trolling, everyone here respects my football knowledge. You on the other hand don't know much football.

You need to give up your crusade, everyone has already told you to do so! You should listen!

Birney the baker's picture

Like I said, windbag!!

Tom Birney

Birney the baker's picture

Sadly, your best fan LVT now knows how to use google thanks to me so you won't have any further football questions to make you feel like Paul Ott Carruth. lol

Tom Birney "the baker"

Ibleedgreenmore's picture

We had how many injuries last year, sign them if they get hurt then we have great support.

Dave Van Allen's picture

I wonder of Franklin will be released prior to the final cut down to 53. If McMillian can get the axe, I don't think that Franklin is immune.

Pass pro will be one factor that all the backs are ranked on. Franklin is fast and shifty, but that doesn't seem to have gotten him much so far.

Evan's picture

Cut after 1 injury shortened year? I'd be shocked.

Even McMillian got 2+ years and he never showed anything close to what Franklin has thus far.

Jordan's picture

Why would you think Franklin would be cut? Fumbles in Cincinnatti? If you re-watch that game, it was a lot more than Franklin having fumbling problems that day. Packers defense handed McCarthy and the offense that game, but McCarthy, Rodgers, and offense blew it. Packers should have scored 45 points that game.

John Kuhn has 13 career rushing attempts in the playoffs. He's fumbled 3 times. In the playoffs, Kuhn fumbles every 4th carry. That ain't real good. Playoffs tend to be important games.

Kuhn almost single handedly lost the ravens game last year on a blocked punt butter fingers. Also in that Ravens game, Kuhn had a wide open check down where he had to run 3 yards for a first down....and nobody was within 10 yards of him. He's so slow, he couldn't make it 3 yards. He came up 2 yards short. I'm not kidding.

The dude is a veteran and makes rookie mistakes.

4thand1's picture

Every player makes mistakes. Funny you didn't mention what a good blocker he is.

Idiot Fan's picture

Welcome back John. Now let's make sure we don't see any more dumba** special teams plays, ok?

jimtalkbox's picture

Good to see Kuhn is back. Like someone mentioned earlier though, we've got to stop doing those short yardage runs with him. I think running a bootleg or a play action pass off of that could REALLY do some damage.

Probably won't see anything on Flynn until after the draft.

Clay Zombo's picture

Good move re-signing Kuhn, Id rather have him and not need him than the other way around. Pleasantly surprised to see his efficiency blocking in the run game from last season but im sure it helps to have talented RBs to block for.

Birney the baker's picture

Just covering their bases in case they can't find someone in the draft. I doubt he makes the team when it's all said and done. They cut Hargrove and Mulligan and they can do it with Kuhn. Daniels and Raji can play fullback in short yardage situations.

COW's picture

The Packers signed him because he basically costs nothing... what's the harm?

My guess is that the Packers would be thrilled to be able to release Kuhn before the cut-down to 53. It would mean that one or more of their rb's have improved as pass blockers.

Personally, I can't stand having Kuhn as the teams 3rd down back. I'd rather have a multi-skilled player in that role. Someone who can run/catch/block. That would seem to cause more uncertainty for the opposing defense. But until one of the rb's steps up his blocking... Kuhn it is.

Yeah - Kuhn can pass block... but as soon as the D sees him in the huddle on 3rd down, they know they can send an additional rusher (since Kuhn's no threat catching the ball or running any sort of screen or draw).

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HankScorpio's picture

"Yeah - Kuhn can pass block... but as soon as the D sees him in the huddle on 3rd down, they know they can send an additional rusher (since Kuhn's no threat catching the ball or running any sort of screen or draw)."
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I bet everyone involved with the Packers offense wishes opposing DCs were as simple-minded as that. Because when Kuhn and the line picks up the blitz, Rodgers is staring down a secondary with holes in it. And good things happen for the Packers.

Unfortunately for the Packers, most DCs are smart enough not to test Kuhn's ability to pick up the blitz that often.

COW's picture

Nice theory.

Problem is - even with Kuhn in there to protect Rodgers, the Packers still give up a ton of sacks.

I get the whole "protect the qb with a pass-blocking fb" concept. But the fact of the matter is - the Packers have been employing this method for quite a while... and still they always are near the top of the league in terms of sacks allowed.

Maybe it's time to try something new.

Maybe instead of having an additional blocker they should put an additional THREAT on the field.

Protect Rodgers with scheme as opposed to bodies.

Evan's picture

I fully expect Lacy to be much more of a 3-down back this season.

Birney the baker's picture

He will be our three down back. As Cow said they are just signing him because they can for the moment. Unless they trade Franklin which to me it's a strong possibility now, I don't see how they keep Kuhn when Lacy can do everything Kuhn can at this point. The Packers just don't know it yet. I do!!

HankScorpio's picture

You should really pay more attention to things. It's far from "theory" to suggest the Packers offense wants to be blitzed. You can protest all you want. But you'll be wrong.

Which hasn't much stopped you before so have at it...

COW's picture

I agree that the Packer offense wants to be blitzed.
Just wondering what a more versatile 3rd down back might be able to do for the offense,

But whatever.
You're right.
I'm wrong.

You're good looking.
I'm ugly.

You're smart.
I'm stupid.

You're a fan of the Packers.
I'm just a "troll" (probably a Bears' fan to boot).

Evan's picture

Hey now, I'm sure you're attractive, in your own unique way.

Jordan's picture

I agree with you cow.

And get this.....packers are spouting off about how two of the finest RB plays of 2013 was kuhns block to spring lacy vs Dallas. And kuhn's pickup of blitz vs bears. I agree, they were nice plays. But for crying out loud.....Dallas was the 32nd ranked defense. Bears was the 31st ranked defense.

This is all about MCCarthy being set in his ways. He doesn't want to change anything. He considers the Bears and Cowboys defense of 2013 to be equal to the 49ers. I really don't think he gets it. All McCarthy wants to do is point fingers at the defense.

If you want to watch some horrific McCarthy and John Kuhn, flip on the Ravens and Bengals game from 2013 season. Or flip on the most recent one-and-done.

HankScorpio's picture

"He (McCarthy) considers the Bears and Cowboys defense of 2013 to be equal to the 49ers"

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Yeah, probably not so much.

It's ok to disagree with a choice the Packers make. You're certainly not the only person to think the Packers should move on from Kuhn. But when you wade into the weeds like this, it tends to detract from the point you're making, not help it.

Jordan's picture

"It's ok to disagree with a choice the Packers make."

I don't specifically remember asking you or anybody else if it was "ok" for me to disagree with a choice the Packers made. Maybe I did. I just don't remember it.

When you presume to give me permission/approval on what I can and can't post, it tends to detract from your criticism of my post.

However, just for you Hank, I will elaborate........
Mike McCarthy has done nothing but talk about the defense this entire off-season. If you look at the film against good defenses, it would appear to me that Mike McCarthy has enough problems of his own on offense.......which for whatever reason......he doesn't have much to say.

You should seriously consider investing $25 on NFL Rewind. A condensed game only takes 30 minutes to watch. It might turn those weeds in to freshly mowed grass for ya. ;)

HankScorpio's picture

Jordan,

It wasn't my intention to give you permission for anything. My apologies if you took it that way. In looking back, it was poorly chosen words on my part.

But I find it interesting that you make such a stink about the presumptive nature of my post and then presume to instruct me how I need to conduct myself. I guess it's more a "do as I say, not as I do" kind of thing with you, huh? Or maybe you think two wrongs make a right? Either way, I don't see how I would ever conclude that McCarthy is incapable of telling a good defense from a bad one. I'm just a hack on the internet. He's a professional. I recognize that such basic details would not escape him.

Jordan's picture

Hank,

Read McCarthy's comments in article linked below. McCarthy felt like they (the offense) really accomplished something by beating the Minnesota Vikings.

At the time, Minnesota had the 32nd ranked defense in NFL. The Vikings didn't win a road game in 2013. The Vikings defense almost broke an NFL record for being one of the worst categorically. The Vikings defense ranked somewhere between 30th-32nd depending on how you rank them. Only the cowboys gave up more yards. The Vikings defense surrendered the most points in entire NFL. The Vikings were a 5-10-1 team.

Yet, here we have Mike McCarthy using the Vikings as some sort of gauge. But you say McCarthy is fully aware of the caliber of defense his offense is playing when he evaluates. I don't think so. If you dispute what I'm saying, please provide some sort of evidence supporting your argument.

http://www.packersnews.com/article/20140401/PKR01/304010440/Pieces-place...

HankScorpio's picture

I don't see what you see in the article, Jordan.

But then again, I don't see a Packers HC that can't tell the difference between the really bad defenses of the NFL and the really good defenses of the NFL. And you do. So I guess that's not surprising.

Jordan's picture

It's right there in black and white.

“Coming out of the Minnesota game up there, I felt that we had really hit our stride and we were getting ready to take off,” McCarthy said. “I felt last year’s offense really could have been something special.”

The only thing McCarthy should have "felt" is that his offense put up 37 points against arguably the worst defense in the NFL, and arguably one of the worst defenses in the history of the National Football League. He's using that Vikings game as a frame of reference or gauge of his offense. Which is completely absurd.

Again, what evidence do you have to support your argument? You haven't provided any.

Stroh's picture

McCarthy felt good about where the offense was headed due to having Lacy back on the field and having Rodgers and a great passing game. Being ready to take off simply because he had a Great QB and was pairing him w/ a Very good Running game. Look at the stats they were starting to put up on the field together. They were headed in the right direction w/ that combination. Then Rodgers happened the very next game and the wheels came off. Lacy was still very productive w/o Rodgers, imagine how much more effective the offense would have been w/ Lacy running AND Rodgers passing. Lacy had nearly 400 yds in the 4 games thru Minn. The offense was getting in sync w/ having both Rodgers and Lacy on the field at the same time. That's what McCarthy was referring too, not the opponent they had played.

Birney the baker's picture

There you go again numbnuts!! Jordan and Hank were have a good old debate disagreeing with each other which I was enjoying reading by the way, and you once again felt left out of the argument so you being the control freak you are decided you would have to add your two cents worth as though what you were saying was meant to end the argument because we all know you are never wrong. Moron Strohkingoff!! Stay the f out. This is their business to settle not yours!!

Tom Birney

Stroh's picture

Its called a FREE country! I can say what I want when I want. But then we all know your opposed to free speech and want cencorship. At least I had something appropriate and pertinent to add to the conversation, instead of Trolling and ruining what was a good discussion.

Wonder who's comment would be in line for cencoring? Look in the mirror!

Birney the baker's picture

I have no problem with free speech, I have a problem with YOU feeling the need to intervene on people constantly like you are some effing judge that has the final say. You are the only person in the world that needs to be censored!! Shut your yap!! Is that too much to ask? Are you that desperate for approval that you feel this need to do the things you do? Get some mental help for your OCD you putz!! Now you turned the Jordan/Hank Scorpio debate into something where you are now the center of attention. Shut the f up already and quit responding to everyone. These two are men, they don't need you to intervene you jackass!!

Stroh's picture

I added to the football discussion. Look what you did! Took a FOOTBALL discussion and turned it into your personal trolling crusade. The one needing mental help is NOT the one adding to a football discussion, it the one ruining the football discussion, name calling and trolling.

You owe EVERYONE here an apology for ruining every thread you comment on!

HankScorpio's picture

Jordan,

My evidence is common sense. It's not hard for anyone to see that SF is a better defense than Dallas and Chicago. If a bunch of casual fans can see it, it is common sense that a professional football coach can see it.

Your "evidence" is that McCarthy said he felt good about the offense after playing Minny when asked an entirely different question. His answer said nothing about Dallas, Chicago or SF (which is the point that spawned this tangent), nor does it make any comparison between any of the 4 defenses in question.

Even if it did make a comparison, I wouldn't exactly put a whole lot of stock in quotes given to the media. Coaches say things to the press that may or may not be the whole truth of what they believe. Take Mason Crosby for instance. During his gawd awful struggles in 2012, McCarthy was publicly expressing confidence. It was obvious from the FG attempts he was declining to try that he had lost a ton of confidence in Crosby. You can find all the quotes you'd like but it won't mean a thing to me. I'm cynical when it comes to that sort of thing.

We seem to be spinning in circles here. I'm not a fan of that sort of thing. So I won't anymore. Have the last word if you wish..

4thand1's picture

MM is very smart. He NEVER says anything to antagonize another team and give them bulletin board material.

4thand1's picture

I have an official hater. GOPACKGO, dislike that too. lmao.

Jordan's picture

There's nothing really left to say. It's all right there in black and white.

I'm not going to tell you the similarities of the Bears, Cowboys, and Vikings defenses since they were the three worst defenses in the NFL last year and you've probably already made the connection (light bulb) since your post.

Common sense. Yes, I know everyone on this blog has common sense. They know the difference between a good defense and a really bad defense. Everyone on this blog also knew the Packers weren't eliminated.
But I'm not talking about the common sense of everyone on this blog. I'm talking about Mike McCarthy. ;)

http://www.espnwisconsin.com/common/more.php?m=49&action=blog&r=40&post_...

You want me to send you the video of Nelson picking up McCarthy's challenge flag too? Lol

Stroh's picture

Besides Kuhn being so adept at picking up blitzes, Rodgers is the best QB in the NFL when he's blitzed. He just eats blitzing teams alive. IIRC he has the highest passer rating in NFL history when blitzed. Rodgers has the arm, the brain and the feet needed to beat blitzes. He's Deadly!

Birney the baker's picture

100% agree with your last two posts Cow. It's why I consider you 2nd most knowledgeable person here behind Paul Ott Carruth.

4thand1's picture

LMFAO. Good one.

Stroh's picture

My sentiments exactly... Couldn't believe it when I read it.

jeremyjjbrown's picture

Actually, I think Cow is a pretty knowledgable Packers fan. It's just the morose negativity that he throws out there that makes him look bad.

Stroh's picture

I don't totally disagree, he's fairly knowledgable... But 2nd only to Paul Ott? No chance... I can think of about 6-8 that I would say rate higher and not just because of his incessant negativity.

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

Stroh, Just my opinion, but I'll be surprised if Kuhn makes the final 53. If he does, I'd say he's playing his last year in GB. My thinking is, if we get a, (Hate to say it), GJ's in the draft, he'll be cut. He's a Good Player, a Good Blocker, & knows defense's, but I don't think that will be enough to keep him around, if we find a Gem WR in the draft. LVT Hope I didn't send this 3 times.

Stroh's picture

If he does make it this year, I agree it'll be his last year. My reasoning is he is easily the best blocker among the RB, as well as easily the best ST player among them. He fulfills his role very well, in another year Lacy might be his equal in pass pro, but it usually takes a couple years for RB to become proficient pass blockers, even those that are thought to be good coming out of college. If they take a WR early, which they might do, he'll be on the roster, but otherwise the WR on the roster outside Nelson, Cobb and Boykin can be on the PS. 4 RB, 1 FB 5 WR and 3 or 4 TE will make the roster IMO.

PackerBacker's picture

My only issue with keeping him is that it's a lot of the roster in the backfield. YOu have 5 RB/FB's and (assuming) 3 QB's. That's 8 players or 15% of your roster.
The only reason I could see keeping Kuhn is that they aren't sure if the "Used car salesman" is going to be the same type of player he was before he was hurt. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see them keep all of them or cut Kuhn or one of the other RB's in the final cut.

Stroh's picture

I don't see them keeping 3 QB's coming out of camp. I don't think they ever have under McCarthy. They'll keep 2 QB's and 1 on the PS. Tie the FB in w/ the TE's that's the position it more closely aligns w/ in terms of use (ST, receiving and blocking). They've at times kept as many as 4 or 5 TE's, not including the FB.

PackerBacker's picture

If this was last year, I'd completely agree. But I think they got caught with their pants down last year without any viable backup. I could easily see them keeping 3 QB's on the roster and a 6th rounder on the PS.

If they did keep only two, who would you cut (assuming they re-sign Flynn). Do you keep the more experienced backup and Rodger's buddy - Flynn? Or do you keep a prospect for the future who looks to have some up-side - Tolzien.

I personally think they resign Flynn for another year or two and keep both as backups. Maybe even pick up a 6th or 7th rounder and keep them on the PS.

I don't think MM wants to ever go through the problems they had this year ever again. And he shouldn't, that and the Safety situations were probably the most obvious lapses in judgement I've seen under the MM / TT era.

Birney the baker's picture

Wow, that statement really bothers you doesn't it Strohkingoff. You mentioned it twice and nobody else even mentioned it once. Just as I said, you actually believe in your warped mind that you are equal to Paul Ott. Let me tell you something, Cow kicks your ass day and night in terms of knowledge and yes, I was being serious contrary to what others think.

If you notice Cow and Paul Ott speak very little but when they do EVERYBODY listens. You see the difference between greatness and someone like you? You never shut your mouth. All you do is blow hot air out of your mouth 24 hours a day 7 days a week year after year. You are not respected by anyone here though you think you are. lol Wake the f up Strohkinoff. You are an annoying twit and a legend only in your warped mind. lol

Tom Birney "the baker"

Stroh's picture

Doesn't bother me in the least. Like 4thand1, I found it to be hilarious that's all.

You need to learn to read, I didn't say a thing about where I consider myself. You should quite making yourself look foolish, which everyone thinks you are, along w/ being a troll who adds nothing of actual Football discussion.

4thand1's picture

Peppers thanked Kuhn for getting him out of Chicago.

Horse's picture

Kuhn carried 10 times last season. He didn't get re-signed for 10 carries + 13 receptions @ $1M. He got re-signed because he ran the line while AR was out, he has encyclopedic knowledge about reading Ds and blocking that's invaluable to the young RBs and other stuff that almost no one here has mentioned. You cannot draft that. Plus, when you absolutely have to get a yard, KUUUUHHHHNNNN.

BubbaOne's picture

TT signed 6'0 250lb FB Ina Liaina, 24, in Jan. He spent part of 2013 w/ the Dolphins.

Kuhn will have to win the FB job to make the 53. TT will not keep him just for ST.

HankScorpio's picture

Virtually every pundit, scout and coach I've ever heard comment on the matter says younger backs almost always struggle in pass protection. For the Packers, protecting Rodgers is the single most important organizational function. 6-2 with him playing and 2-5-1 without him last year tells you all you need to know.

I want to see the Packers keep a better lead blocking FB. Putting someone in front of Lacy that can clear a LB out of the hole would be helpful to run game production. Kuhn is not very good at moving people, even tho he can stalemate them. I would hate to see them sacrifice their best pass blocking back to do so. That just doesn't strike me as the right way to go for a pass orientated team with a franchise QB. I would rather them sacrifice the 4th RB and keep 2 FBs among the 5 backs that I view as a normal roster allotment. Let Kuhn mentor Lacy and Liaina (or whoever else) in pass protection for a year. Then re-evaluate the situation for 2015.

I would be fine with stashing the 2nd FB on the practice squad, too. But I'd rather have that guy suiting up for STs and 4 minute offense/short yardage in all 16 games than keeping a 4th RB that won't sniff the field except in injury emergency to the top 3 runners.

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I thought Kuhn was looking for more $. At $1 million or so, and since he will be active on game days, Kuhn probably makes the team, but I don't think he is a lock. The article mentions some incentives, so I wonder if he signed for the Vet min, or if he got some kind of guaranteed or almost guaranteed money via Signing or Roster bonus, or workout bonus.

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