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McCarthy Acknowledges Perry's Right-Side Rushing Prowess

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McCarthy Acknowledges Perry's Right-Side Rushing Prowess

Yet another item coming out of the NFL's Owners Meeting in Orlando on Wednesday, was Mike McCarthy's comments on outside linebacker Nick Perry rushing from the right side of the field:

Clay Matthews has been the right outside linebacker for the better part of the past three seasons, but there will probably be some shake-up with Julius Peppers also coming on board in 2014.

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Allan Murphy's picture

can you say elephant ends lol

Allan Murphy's picture

what a slap in the face bears sign allen 4 year 34 million this should put the fire under peppers for sure !

Evan's picture

I like that McCarthy seems to be recognizing a lot of things us fans have been saying for a while - Hyde makes sense at safety, Perry needs to rush from the right, Raji needs to be NT, etc...

EDIT: On second thought, most of us fans are idiots....so...maybe this isn't the greatest news.

RC Packer Fan's picture

For the most part though, the 'smart' fans have been saying this for a while.
Sounds like McCarthy is finally going to make sure that a player is used to their strengths.
Perry on the right side, Raji at NT...

Stroh's picture

Who is it that's been talking about Raji being a NT, Perry rushing from the right side and Hyde playing safety for the past year? Hmmm.... LOL

RC Packer Fan's picture

I know you, me and Evan have all stated those things. I know there were others, but I remember us 3 have stated it more then a few times.

HankScorpio's picture

Lots and lots of people have been saying all those things about each of those guys since they were drafted. Heck, even before they were drafted.

That the Packers haven't recognized those things is a point to their discredit, IMO. And one of the prime reasons I have been advocating a re-vamp of the defensive coaching staff. They keep lining their guys up in spots that don't utilize the talent they have in the best possible way. Tailoring your approach to the talent you have is Coaching 101. For the last few years, the Packers defensive staff has been stuck at the remedial level.

Otto's picture

Has anyone ever seen Stroh and McCarthy in the same place before? Could be we've identified MM "internet handle." He's on here trying to figure out what he needs to do to get the team back on the field!
Your coaching of the 2010 season was masterful, "Stroh."

RC Packer Fan's picture

Peppers and Perry rushing off the right, Mathews and Daniels off the left? Sounds pretty good to me.

Birney the baker's picture

I like Mike Neal rushing right up the gut in passing situations. There were times especially two years ago where this guy is so damn strong he can literally push a guy right back into the quarterback and has the speed to boot. to get to the qb and at times dominate. He goes in spurts but I like his strength up the middle.

It really does sound like MM is finally going to just do what makes the most common sense. How can he not at this point in his career. How many years does he have left where he makes the playoffs only to see his defense collapse. Teddy Tee mentioned this last year about doing the "George Costanza opposite theory" http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/02/24/packers-thompson-channels-george-costanz...

As crazy or ridiculous as that sounds, I think McCarthy realizes that everything he's done with the defense for the past couple years has been wrong. So taking a cue from Ted and yes, George Costanza, McCarthy is going to do the opposite of what he's ever done before and this should be the correct decision. I look for this upcoming season where it FINALLY all comes together for this team. They are due!!

RC Packer Fan's picture

I really like the versatility that Neal brings. Honestly I really like the versatility that Neal, Jones, and Peppers brings.

I really hope we see the Pscycho again. Having any combination of Mathews, Peppers, Daniels, Perry, Jones, Neal and maybe Raji on the field standing, you have no idea where the rush is coming from.

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

Tom B. I like the idea of Mathews at 1 DE, & Peppers at the other DE. Am I wrong there?

Also, IMO, both Peppers & Allen are or were Great Players. Who is the better of the 2. Why did GB choose Peppers over Allen? They both signed for about the same money per year. Apparently Seattle passed on Allen for some reason? Was it money?? Just curious. LVT

Stroh's picture

Allen's a one trick pony. Only a pass rusher and poor run defender anymore. Allen offers no scheme versatility. He's strictly a 43 DE. He couldn't play 34 OLB, nor could he drop inside and rush. I've don't think he's ever rushed from anywhere other than RDE. Peppers on the other hand can play 43 DE/elephant end, 34 DE, he can drop to DT and rush the QB from there, he can rush from LDE and will get some looks at OLB too. Packers want versatility and Allen offers none of it.

Peppers has always been the undisputed #1 pass rusher on his team, Allens always had a lot of help from the Williams'. Peppers will be more versatile and open up a lot of opportunities for Perry, Danials, Neal, Matthews, et al.

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

Ok, that makes sense, but why do we want the versatility? I was thinking we were going to have to good DE's. I'm probably wrong, but I'd like to see Peppers & Mathews rushing from the outside. You know my opinion of AJ HAWK. I'd like to find new ILB's. I personally think we need 2 consistant DE's like when we had Reggie & Sean. I don't really get this elephant thing. LVT

Stroh's picture

Peppers and Matthews are going to be the primary defenders that move around. It allows the Packers to create favorable matchups for them. For example, having Peppers rush as a DT against almost any OG is a mismatch. He'll be able to use his length to keep blockers off him and his quickness to get around them pretty easily. They can also have Matthews and Peppers on opposite side to stretch the blocking out side to side and create more one on ones and open up rush lanes for the interior pass rushers.

Being able to move Peppers and Matthews around, not too mention Neal lining up at OLB and also as a DT. Getting more pass rushers in favorable matchups is the best way to create pressure on the QB and the offense.

Birney the baker's picture

LVT, I am not the person to answer this question. Peppers and Matthews rushing the qb can never be a bad thing. How they line these guys up is a different story. They have literally a ton of combinations which should excite you and everyone else going forward.

As to who's better between the two, Peppers fits Green Bay better than Allen does in my opinion. As to the dynamics and how things went down, I honestly have not been paying much attention to that. Just happy they signed a big time name free agent to shut up all the people that claim Ted never spends money. I have bigger fish to fry at the moment. I've been too busy having fun humiliating Mr. Strohkinoff. It is the offseason after all.

Birney the baker's picture

See what I am talking about LVT. This guy is so starved for attention that he answers other peoples questions. It's like he feels "left out" because he wasn't asked the question personally. His way of trying to show his dominance by answering it anyway. The guy is absolutely pathetic.

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

You're right, LV-Tom, Allen and Peppers did sign for about the same $ per year, but Allen got $15.5 guaranteed whereas Peppers only got $7.5 million. I usually look at guaranteed money to assess a contract, but here, I think it's likely that Allen commanded more guaranteed money simply because he is about 3 years younger than Peppers, rather than one being a better player for the upcoming season. They do seem to be different players that fit different systems. BTW, the other replies to your questions are interesting and seem thoughtful and well reasoned to me, so thanks to those who responded to LV-Tom.

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

Thegreatreynoldo, Just saw this post. Thanks for the Nice Reply. I always appreciate when someone reply's respectfully to one of my posts. I agree with you on the guaranteed money. I didn't know Allen was 3 yr's younger. I hope Peppers has at least 2 good yr's in him, & that we don't have to go looking next yr again. "The greatreynoldo" I LIKE THAT!!

AndrewInAtlanta's picture

All 4 of them staying healthy sounds even better to me :-)

Allan Murphy's picture

omg yes!!!!!!!!

DrealynWilliams's picture

I wonder if players let position coaches know how they feel about certain situations. I wonder if coaches listen to players' (not named Rodgers) input.

jimtalkbox's picture

I never understood why they moved Raji from the NT spot anyways!

4thand1's picture

They moved Raji because he is younger and faster than Pickett.

Stroh's picture

Raji's mobility certainly had a lot to do w/ the move. An article I read stated that they used Pickett differently cuz he was more adept at playing a slanted NT, whereas Raji was better straight up on the center. Not so much that Pickett was better at 2 gapping just a slightly different alignment. Raji played so much DE the past 3 years it just ruined those seasons for him. Being able to line up straight over the Center will give Raji the opportunity to get pressure in the backfield cuz few Centers can handle him one on one and he's quick enough to shoot the gap if he is double teamed.

Clay Zombo's picture

Raji is a good penetrating NT type player whereas PIckett was much better at taking on double teams and 2 gapping. Capers loves 2 gappers, that's why he went with Pickett over Raji at NT.

McCarthy for all his flaws does tend to deliver on his points of emphasis and I for one am glad hes finally asserting himself on the defensive side of the ball. Not sure why it took so long but better late than never.

4thand1's picture

He hasn't been able to replace Collins or Bishop. Plus injured draft picks doesn't help. The Packers front 7 were a mash unit.

Stroh's picture

Its hard to replace playmakers like Collins and Bishop. Starters not too difficult but both of them were more than just starters. They were among our best playmakers on Defense. It also took each of them till yr 4 to become that. So even is players drafted at those positions worked out there was no guarantee they would have established themselves for a couple years. We're waiting on guys like Datone, Worthy, Perry to make that jump. Daniels is a step ahead of them at the moment.

RC Packer Fan's picture

Yeah, a lot of people talk about Collins and Jenkins, but the loss of Bishop really hurt. He was so good and they haven't had the same type of production since.

This is a huge offseason for Worthy. His first full offseason with the team. If he can come in and elevate his game, it would be a huge help to the defense.

Clay Zombo's picture

I think confidence is the biggest factor in any young players success, sometimes it takes a while to adjust to the speed of the game and things like that but mostly its about players having confidence in what they're doing on the field.

The Packers don't seem to know this or they don't seem to care. They play musical chairs on the offensive line, they draft guys at one position and play them at another. They take these guys completely out of their comfort zone as players, like the transition to the NFL isn't hard enough already.

I think if you want a guy to play well right away you do everything you can to foster their confidence, have them do the things they are comfortable with first then ease the transition to a new position if that is the plan.

Lets hope this revelation McCarthy has had about the defense sticks.. What a novel concept "Play to your players strengths" Gee why didn't I think of that...

Stroh's picture

Capers scheme is very complex. Players coming into the NFL have to learn to play the NFL game, if they go to a simple D they can sometimes perform very well right away, like Sheldon Richardson. They have a simple attacking D in NYJ, Capers is very complex, same as Pitts where even Polamalu didn't start as a rookie. Capers/LeBeau have the same scheme and Pitts hasn't started a rookie on D in like a decade unless forced by injury. As long as Capers/LeBeau use a complex scheme that takes a couple years to learn, besides just learning the NFL game they'll never have a rookie of the year candidate.

Clay Zombo's picture

Good point and that's why Capers defense isn't suited for this team, a team that relies on rookies to contribute every year and with so many injuries over the last few years its made it even more difficult to plug and play new guys.

Maybe McCarthy will finally force him to dumb it down a little bit or simplify it if you will.

Stroh's picture

I've suggest that in the past as well. If Capers is going to be replaced, the reasoning would be that his complex D isn't a good fit for a draft and develop team that wants to play rookies more. That's also where the career ending injuries for Collins and Bishop hurt. They were in the process or replacing Jenkins and Woodson then the Collins/Bishop injuries hit and it set the D back even further. If those career ending injuries don't occur, they are able to get the DL fixed and might just now start to develop players at S and ILB to replace them.

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

Congratulations Stroh! (This is not sarcasm - you HAVE been suggesting this for at least a year). Maybe with Perry rushing from CM's position, we could slide CM into the middle for a few snaps per game in appropriate situations, getting our best pass rushers into the game.

RC Packer Fan's picture

Neal, Daniels, Peppers, Perry in the front 4, with Hawk and Mathews in the middle. I like that look in some packages. Especially against mobile QB's.

Stroh's picture

Yeah RCPackFan and I have discussed that quite a bit too. If they move Perry to right, they should also start using Matthews in more varied ways. I'm guessing that will be the case this year. Moving Peppers around the DL and few snaps at LB, move Matthews all around the LB group. Neal either OLB or DT, Perry probably rushing both side, hopefully mostly on the right.

A lot of moving parts now.

RC Packer Fan's picture

I like it. Moving parts creates confusion. Confusion leads to offenses unsure of themselves. Which leads to breakdowns in protections, which means timing is off with WR's, which causing turnovers.

I'm going to set my goals high, but I think Packers could lead the league or at least be a top 5 team in turnovers on defense this year.

Evan's picture

On the flip side, it sounds like it's making an already complex defense even more so.

I like the idea of versatility and a hybrid defense, but it does run the risk of causing confusion on our side of the ball too.

RC Packer Fan's picture

Yeah, I can see that possibly being a problem.
But where has most of the confusion been? From my understanding most of it has been with the DB's.

I don't know if moving the front 7 players around a lot will impact the DB's.

But also when I say moving front 7 around, I mean guys lining up in different spots. Spots those guys have played before. Perry at ROLB, Mathews at ILB, LOLB, ROLB, Peppers playing the 3, 5, 7 technique spots. Neal playing OLB and DE.

I don't know how much confusion they would create for themselves by doing this.

Stroh's picture

At least the guys we're talking about being versatile and playing multiple positions would be veterans. They can probably handle knowing those different positions and still playing fast and confident. Moving a rookie around a lot would definitely slow him down but not a vet so much.

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