I absolutely expect MLF to alternate between them and say they are both "starters," and I'm fine with that. However, just as before the draft, I think Kraft is a WAY better NFL TE than Musgrave. He does what you need TEs to do: block, and move the chains. He also has less of an injury history, and that is a very valuable quality in a starter.

I really look forward to seeing Kraft/Musgrave/Watson/Wicks blocking in front of Aaron Jones. All four are receiving threats who block well.

What is Tyler Davis's situation? Is he coming back? I think Musgrave and Kraft deserve to start, with Sims as depth. If Tyler Davis is coming back, he'll be depth, too, IMO. I also feel we should look to draft another TE and develop him, Never hurts to have a lot of players who can play the position. Look how far we've come as far as the team's thinking goes on TEs. Under McCarthy, TEs were almost an aberration, rarely used. Now they are a focal point of our offense. Keep building the team with the position and GO PACK, GO!!!

I’m not really seeing them as similar players. For one thing Kraft looks more like a conventional TE in the making, but even as catchers, they have different attributes. The thing that stood out to me with Kraft is his foot speed and balance. Somewhat the opposite with Musgrave who does best when he can get the ball in motion. Musgrave is a weapon but is more a big receiver who can be physical in a better-than-Lazard sense and pose a bigger offensive threat.

I see the more interesting question going forward as being how Musgrave fits in with Watson/Doubs/Heath/Wicks/Melton. He’s going to play a lot from the slot I suspect, where each of those have received snaps, Kraft could get more snaps simply because of his wider non receiving role, especially if we don’t resign Deguara (as I anticipate) and don’t go for a true FB who can carry the ball. Sims would seem like good depth behind Kraft.

Both Musgrave and Kraft are talented guys and I would look for more ways to get both of them on the field - it shouldn't have to be "either/or". I think Deguara's days in Green Bay are over and the Packers could easily use Kraft to replace him. Deguara averages about 13 offensive snaps a game and they are all as a blocker or receiver - he never runs the ball as a true fullback. Kraft could fulfill the role of H-back (blocker and receiver) as well as play TE.

Save a roster spot on the unneeded H-back player and get both Musgrave and Kraft on the field more often.

One of the goofiest notions is one MUST be the starter. It's really only a fabrication of people who think all things must be ranked.

Some teams have NO tight ends worth bothering about. The Packers have two worth bothering about. Quite honestly, with Sims and maybe Davis they have plenty of help at tight end.

I would say both of them will play, sometimes even on the same play. Sometimes neither will play with Sims in the game. With all the really good receivers they have there likely will be many plays where it's all receivers and no tight ends.

This is a great place to be. Opposing defenses can't concentrate on one player.

I think you described each strengths accurately. After the draft, I thought Kraft would end up being the better of the two. He would be the one to break the 3rd round curse I thought. Watching his college tape showed me he was awesome after the catch. I think he is the most well rounded and is also athletic. I can see Musgrave also having a very good career. Rotate them to keep them fresh and played together, they will create mismatches.

Kraft is clearly the better TE as a blocker and with the ball in his hands going for the YAC. I still put my money on him to be the Pro Bowler. Musgrave can get open fast, but doesn't have the same agility. He's a post-up guy.
These guys should be getting the ball on an even distribution of snaps. If the WRs are doubled, these guys will destroy the opposing defenses.

Who cares? They are both ours for at least the next 3 years. It's great to be a Green Bay Packer.

If anyone views this as a problem, it is a very nice problem to have.
If I had to choose an every down TE for this team, I would lean towards Kraft. Why? Because of his early down blocking ability edge in taking on the big offensive linemen and value to the running game while still providing the ability to chip block and present a flat safety valve for the quarterback. We have a talented group of wide receivers who will likely be the pre-snap target and if they fail to get open, the tight end or running back can be a safety valve option. However, those who prefer Musgrave, I can fully understand loving that guy; he is a very talented football player.

I disagree with the premise that one or the other TEs needs to be the #1 TE. The decision who plays should be based upon the opponent, the offensive game plan, the score and the down and distance. As long as both are healthy they should play in the appropriate situations and in tow TE sets which MLF likes to employ.

Except for the QB the concept of the #1 player at other positions is dissipating from the NFL especially at the skill positions and at many of the positions on defense. More and more positions are becoming rotational positions based on down and distance, the opponent and the score of the game.

Get the best 11 players on the field for every play and position for them for success on every play. The Packers are fortunate to have two young, talented TEs. They should utilize them both to achieve the best results on every play. GPG! Thanks, Since '61

I'm not sure what the thrust of the article is but who cares who is TE 1. Remember Chmura and Keith Jackson. They were a devastating duo and really made that 96 offense go. The good thing for GB is Musgrave and Kraft are young and KJ was old and hungry only for a title when he showed up in GB.

I suspect if these two guys stay healthy, Packer fans will be happy about TE for the next few years. One word of caution, a rookie season does not a career make. Just look at Eric Stokes. Greatness can also be fleeting just view Antonio Freeman who from late 95-97 was maybe the top receiver in football but by 98 was old and slow!

I was zeroed in on Kraft as a must have in the draft, even more than LaPorta, even though I am a Hawk fan. Kraft is really a better athlete than Musgrave, and thats not knocking Musgrave. We hit 2 homeruns with these guys last year. Now we have some real weapons on offense and as Harry said, "Who do you cover" or "What does the defense try to take away?"

It's amazing that we could go from having no TE room, to turning it into a strength in one year. Kudos to the front office for that and the whole draft in general last year. Safety is the next group to rebuild, and we should start with a good FA pickup before the draft. It doesn't need to be the most expensive/cap busting choice either. There will be 1/2 dozen good younger total upgrades for GB to go after under $10 million per year. I still am voting for Jeremy Chinn. That allows for maybe 2 more reasonable FA upgrades that turns us into what should be a Top 10 defense with the talent we already have.

On to the draft then and get us 2 good Safeties in the draft starting @ #41 with Nubin or Kinchens. Adding to the pieces we already have @ CB and O-line will make us a formidable team even next year, and a contender in 2025.

As far as Deguara. we don't need a replacement/new player for that position, especially for as little as we use it. I have always wondered why teams just don't use a TE type for the FB position if the team has one. Why use a bulked-up RB with short arms and small hands, when you can just throw a TE out there. Better for blocking too. With the embarrassment of riches we have with Musgrave and Kraft, if it means getting Kraft on the field more then give him all those snaps. Then teams really have to respect the formation more.

Solution…go with 12 personnel A LOT

For what it's worth, I thought Kraft was as good or better than the Notre Dame TE, Mike Mayer. I am not sure how his year went in for the Raiders I think. I do know the big TE from Georgia, who everyone mocked to, us only caught like 9 passes on 10 targets with the Steelers. The biggest difference or question mark was Kraft's level of competition. You could see the talent and rare athleticism was there.

Those Dakota schools that play for national championships every year should not be overlooked. Players like Isaiah Davis, the Janus twins, Myles Harden, and multiple O-lineman from all those teams are NFL caliber talent. A team could do way worse than bring in the ones that aren't drafted as UFDAs.

It's a mute point: Kraft or Musgrave. They have a year under their belts and year 2 projects to be even better. Design plays to their strengths and plays that use both of them at the same time on the field. With our jack-rabbit WRs, how is a defense going to key on 6 receivers and TEs. That leaves 5 to stop the run. A healthy Jones and a new bull dog RB in the draft, now we got some firepower in '24. GPG!

Both. I'd like to see them both get more opportunities in the red zone, though. With only three TDs in the red zone during the regular season, this is probably a number that can be vastly improved upon going forward.

Musgrave seems to be more of a deep ball threat...more of a TE/WR hybrid if you will, whereas Kraft seems to have a little more of a mean streak in him while he either goes through you with a wicked stiff arm or hurdle over defenders, while picking up every extra yard available.

It'll be up to MLF to find the best ways to utilize both of their strengths, possibly using lots of 12 personnel. It's going to be exciting watching all these young pass catchers evolve over the next 2-3 years. Hopefully, the injury gods will be kind, because barring injury, this could be a very explosive offense.

All of which points there really isn't a need to use draft capital to draft a WR, or TE. As someone indicated should Davis be back the TE position is extremely solid. Sims did pretty well last year and with another season under his belt should improve. Use draft capital for Safety, CB, LB, Edge, DL, OT, IOL, and RB. Lots of positions need upgrading and depth.

Musgrave operates clumsy like he's still growing into his big feet or something. Kraft is the better TE and athlete as I initially thought. I liked La Porta quite a bit pre-draft. That was a pretty good crop of TE's in 2023. Our Base Offense should be 3-WR's / 1-TE / 1-RB (Jones).
If we are going up against mediocre teams we can use 5-WR sets with our OL holding up. Until our OL is Elite though we won't be able to use 5-WR sets AKA our greatest strength against Elite defenses....So games are always going to be close or a heartbreak like this season.

I truly felt that Kraft was the more complete package by the end of the season. I'm glad we have them both... but in time, I think Kraft will move ahead of Luke.

As long as they,re both here that's all that matters. Alternate them. And people need to stop the B.S. about Musgrave staying on his feet. Almost every throw to him from Love is way high. So much so that he needs full extension to even make the catch. Just be glad he does. Just for the fun of it, try hitting him somewhere around the numbers. Then maybe people will get what they want.

Both! Doesn't matter to me either way.

I believe Kraft will have a bigger career in the long run vs. Musgrave.

These two young men are full of potential, and both are good players.

I feel the difference is Musgrave is the player who has flashy attributes on paper and looks the part, but has yet to put it together on the field. You expect the seam-busting, deep threat "basketball athlete" type TE when you see the frame and the numbers. As we've all seen, though, he's got some strange issues with balance and agility on the field that you wouldn't expect when you see his numbers or watch him running routes in practice. I think he will be fine and we'll start seeing that guy running skinny post splitting the safeties soon.

With Kraft, you've got a player who, because of his build and stride, looks lumbering on the field, but that's an illusion. He's fast, twitchier than you'd expect, and has great balance. He's also more physically imposing than Musgrave. I feel he has the build and skillset to grow and be a long-term, high-output TE in this league. Do it all type guy. Inline, split wide, block, catch. He's the guy.

I've been dying to see two TE sets and personnel on the field to exploit a true "we can run it or pass it on any given down and get mismatches" type offense for decades. I feel like we have the personnel- and, the offensive scheme- to do this without having to sub players or tip our hand by formation.. let's see it. It'd be great to have a package we could roll out for a series or two in games to confuse defenses and keep them off balance when we need a momentum swing.

The Packers once had Mark Chmura and Keith Jackson and had plays where both were on the field. Why not Muskgrave and Kraft.

Travis Kelce.
Tucker Kraft.
….WorldWide.

Those initials signal greatness.

Kraft is a better overall TE imo. I hope they both get plenty of time on the field. I probably would not try to get another TE. Kraft, Musgrave, and Sims should be enough. You can always have a guy like Davis on the PS in case you need him.