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Jared Abbrederis Reportedly Agrees to Deal with Packers

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Jared Abbrederis Reportedly Agrees to Deal with Packers

According to Aaron Wilson of the Baltimore Sun:

If accurate, Abbrederis would be the first of the Packers' nine draft choices to agree to a contract.

Abbrederis was a fifth round draft choice of the Packers, selected 176th overall. He became the first Wisconsin Badgers players selected in the Ted Thompson era in Green Bay.

Due to the NFL's Collective Bargaining Agreement and draft slotting system, there is very little negotiating room for Abbrederis and all NFL Draft picks, their salary and signing bonus essentially set in place the moment they come off the board.

In Green Bay, Abbrederis joins a crowded wide receiver position that includes veterans Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb and Jarrett Boykin as well as two other draft choices in Davante Adams and Jeff Janis.

There are concerns about multiple concussions Abbrederis suffered in college, but if healthy, his experience as a return specialst provides him with extra value.

In four years at Wisconsin, Abbrederis caught 202 passes for 3,140 yards and 22 touchdowns.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

Time to get to work.The future's bright for the kid.

Stroh's picture

I think he's nothing more than a backup WR. I don't even think he is a good return man. Lots of WR I would have rather had even at that draft slot. Abbrederis does nothing for me. He'll likely make the roster on his draft slot, but I just don't see much in him. Hope proves me wrong, but I wouldn't have drafted him at all.

4thand1's picture

I like him. Guy beat the odds.

DrealynWilliams's picture

I don't care about him returning punts or kicks.

Tapes don't lie. The things people/coaches don't like about him are correctable and the things people/coaches admire about him can't be taught. I have zero worries about him not continuing to work his ass off and proving the people who doubt him wrong.

Lol,Stroh,it sounds like you strongly dislike him,but a small part of you knows he can be a special role player. We can't have 5 number one WRs. Were there bigger,stronger and faster WRs available when the Pack chose Abbrederis? Sure. But what about the better route running? What about the better hands? What about the higher football IQ? What about the selflessness?

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

Stroh, I can't believe what you've said here. I don't think you know what you're talking about on this one. Abbrederis is a Hell of a receiver. I for one am glad GB got him. I think he could turn out to be another GJ. Do I really believe that? YES!!

Stroh's picture

Another Jennings? Not hardly. I think Your delusional if that's what you really believe. I've watched him as much as anyone. Haven't missed a UW game in years. Does nothing for me! Your letting your emotions (Badger homerism) get the best of you.

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

Stroh, Don't call me Delusional. Your the one who is Delusional if you don't think Abberderis isn't any good. I'm not letting any Badger Red blind my opinion. He has way too much upside to be over looked. If he needs anything, it would be to bulk up just a bit. He's a Great Receiver regardless of your opinion. You have been WRONG on A.J Hawk for 3 years. You were WRONG on James Jones. You are WRONG on John Kuhn, & you are WRONG on Abberderis. When you talk to me, TALK RESPECKTFUL, OR DON'T REPLY. I've always been respectful towards you. I'm not delusional. I don't think you know a Good Receiver, or a Bad Linebacker when you see one. You've proved both. LVT

Stroh's picture

You said and I quote... " I don't think you know what you're talking about on this one." Its not like saying I don't know what I'm talking about is really any different than saying delusional. If you don't want a harsh return don't reply harshly!

Your right I don't think Abberderis will be a good NFL player. I think he's at best backup material. Wouldn't surprise me if he's out of the NFL in 3 years w/o another contract. To date He has done NOTHING in the NFL to show he is a good receiver. Good in college doesn't mean good in the NFL!

You are wrong on Kuhn? how so? I don't think the Packers would have bothered to sign him to a contract if they didn't think he would have a roster spot. Could have given the training camp spot to a rookie w/ a chance to develop. You know the whole Draft and Develop thing... Kuhn isn't going to develop anymore is he?!

Hawk? How was I wrong? He's a decent at best starting ILB. I've never said I thought he was more. You don't stay an NFL starter for going on 10 yrs if you suck.

I was right about Jones! I said they wouldn't re-sign him. That makes me right! And YOU Wrong! He's a borderline #2/3 WR in the NFL , just like I always said! Right again!

You want respectful, well saying I don't know what I'm talking about is NOT IN ANY WAY respectful!

When you give it, you'll get it!

You've been proven nothing! Be respectful or don't reply isn't that what you said?! I stated my opinion, and replied in kind.

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

Stroh, 1st, before you go shooting that know it all mouth off of yours at me, why don't you re read my comment to you. I said ("I DON'T THINK YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT") I didn't say( YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT), but I should have. You were always an AJ HAWK groupie. He's been good for Shit since the day they wasted the 5th choice on him. He's still good for Shit., & you still think he's a Good linebacker. From what I can tell, you don't know a linebacker from the guy who sells hotdogs. I don't think you got any closer to a football field than the 1st row of bleachers. You've been DEAD WRONG ON HAWK, & many would tell you so. You were also wrong on JONES. GB wanted to sign him, but for less money. As soon as he signed, they re-singed Starks. They wanted Jones1st. Your problem is, as Tom B. told you, You think you're Right on everything, & you can't accept the fact that you are not. Next time you decide to criticize one of my comments of you, read it carefully. In my opinion, you seem to think you can't be mistaken on anything. Maybe we should get Tom B. back.
Once again, my comment to you was with respect. I said (I DIDN'T THINK YOU KNEW WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, WHEN IT CAME TO ABBREDERIS,) (NOT YOU)!!

Stroh's picture

And I said I THINK your dellusional (to think Abbrederis is another Jennings). There is NO difference between you saying "you think I don't know what I'm talking about" and me saying "I THINK your delusional (to think Abbrederis is another Jennings). You seem to think its ok for you to say I don't know what I'm talking about, but not ok for me to say I think...

You think... I think... either way YOU took offense I didn't. I just turned your words against you and now your pissed!

Your comment showed no more respect to me as mine did to you. If you want respect give it otherwise keep your mouth shut (to paraphrase you).

Take your Troll Bernice comment and stick it where the sun don't shine!

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

The Tom B. statement was uncalled for & below the belt. That 1 I take back. Your delusional comment was the same. If I have an opinion on something that you don't agree with, that makes me delusional? I didn't belittle you for your opinion on Abbrederis did I? You think that's the same as calling someone delusional? I didn't say you were Psychotic, did I. Your whole problem, has always been, that you can never admit when you are wrong, or you can't handle a difference of opinion. You have to be right. It doesn't matter what the subject is, You are Right, & the other person is wrong. Just like on Hawk. You've backed him forever, & if you knew half of what you claim to know about football, you'd know he's Terrible. I'm not the only person on this post who feels that way, but you are the only person, I've found so far, that feels the way you do about Abbrederis. That makes you right, & the rest of us wrong? I don't think so. To paraphrase you, you can stick your word Delusional in the same place, that the Sun doesn't shine. If you care to have anymore Civil Debate on the GB Packers, try choosing your words a bit more carefully from now on, & I'll do the same.

Stroh's picture

You said You think I don't know what I'm talking about...
I said I think your delusional...

Same thing to me. I don't see any difference.

I've only backed Hawk as being a decent LB, nothing more. You think he's terrible and I will allow you to have that opinion if you that's what you think. All I know is he's been a decent enough player and starter for going on nearly a decade. He's never been worth the #5 pick in the draft, but then if you look at that entire draft class over 1/2 of the player drafted in the 1st round were complete busts.

I know I'm in the vast MINORITY about Abberderis. The fact that I'm the only one who doesn't think highly of him indicates that the Badger homerism is on high volume. Otherwise its lucky you'll find 1/2 the people w/ the same opinion about a 1st round pick. Indicates to me homerism, otherwise I don't see any way that everyone would agree a bout a 5th round pick. Be great if the hometown guy makes good and I hope he does, but I don't see it. IMO if he gets a 2nd NFL contract and lasts 5 yrs it'll be a miracle. Won't mind a bit if he proves me wrong.

Let me know when you find one scout anywhere that think Abberderis is even close to Greg Jennings. That is what I called delusional, in case you didn't notice.

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

Stroh, I Re-read your comment. Your word Delusional was directed at me. It had to do with my opinion of Abberderis becoming another GJ. Had nothing to do with any scouts opinion. I disagreed with your opinion of Abberderis. I could have stated it differently, but it wasn't an attack of your intelligents. By the way, No one thought too much of the GJ's pick out of Western or Central Michigan at the time either, including me. Yes, I do think Abberderis has Great upside potential, & it's not my Badger Red talking. I am concerned about his frame, but I think he's a Great Receiver. If Abberderis doesn't make this team, the 1st time someone runs by Hawk up the middle, I'm throwing a Hammer through my 55 inch.

Stroh's picture

So its ok for you to say "I don't think you know what your talking about"

But its not OK for me to say "I think your delusional for thinking Abberderis is another Jennings"? My exact quote FYI was "Another Jennings? Not hardly. I think Your delusional if that's what you really believe."

Either way its each of us thinks that opinion is "wrong". There is no difference whatsoever! Its was not me calling you delusional but if that's the way you have to take it go ahead. That's your issue, don't make it mine.

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

Stroh, I accept the fact, that you were not calling me delusional. Ok??
It's over for me, Ok?? I should have said, I disagreed with your assessment. Those would have been better words to use. You might have said it differently as well. Agreed?? or am I wrong on that as well? I disagree with your assessment of Abberderis. I personally see a lot of GJ's in him. I think he is potentially a Great Receiver. If he makes the top 4 WR's on the team, & I believe he will, I will bet you anything you want to bet, that his stats at the end of this season, will be better than GJ's. You can only be a Great Receiver, with a Great QB, but I would be happy to make the bet. I think GB would be Crazy to cut him. At this point there is Nothing guaranteed on Jordy & Cobb. I don't see TT breaking the bank, for either one. Jordy has earned a Big Payday, who could blame him for going FA. It wouldn't surprise me, if they paid Cobb, & let Jordy walk. I hope not, but it could happen. I think maybe Jordy would accept a 4-5 year deal for a reduced amount, but that's just my opinion.
As much as I like John Kuhn as a person, I don't see him making the final 53. William Henderson was three times the Fullback, when GB cut him. Why should JK make this roster?, because he can Block? He can't run, & he can't catch. His $$$ is Almost as big a waste as Hawks, but we're stuck with him. Either I'm missing something here, or GB is going back to the old Power I. We now have better people for 4th & 1 than JK. If by chance, Finley comes back, that might make it interesting for Abberderis & JK, but I believe JK goes 1st. Anyway, for my part of things, it's Forgotten, hope it's the same for you. SHIT HAPPENS!!

Stroh's picture

Like I said in one of the earlier comments. I followed in kind. Responded to you in the way you commented to me.

Kuhn provides a lot of valuable insurance. Not just as a blocker. He plays on all the ST, he is a superior blocker to any other RB on the roster in pass pro, I think he catches the ball well as a reliable check down. He can do some things that others can't do and some things not as well as others. Also a veteran leader that Tramon said we need more of. Henderson was a great FB, better than Kuhn but he's not playing anymore. So bringing him into the conversation is pointless.

Like I said, the Packers would not have resigned him if they didn't think he would be on the roster. They could have given the reps to another young player to develop, whether another FB or whatever. If the Packers are going to have a FB on the roster, Kuhn is easily the best fit for the Packers.

Al Neubauer's picture

My favorite one is still number 66.

RC Packer Fan's picture

Stroh, I respect your opinion of Abbrederis and other players. I remember during the draft process you have said you didn't like him.

My question is, at the spot where the Packers drafted Abbrederis was drafted you said you would have rather had a lot of other WR's there. What WR's would you have wanted?

While you maybe right that he may never be more then a backup WR, isn't that ok? If he is never more then a 3/4 WR, isn't that fine with a 5th round pick? Packers use multiple WR sets all the time.

I still maintain that Abbrederis is a very undated player. He is a great route runner, and is really great at getting open. He is going against some of the top competition and he beats them.
He does offer return ability's as well... I think he will be the Packers KR/PR to start the season.

Here is a link to watch him in action.

http://draftbreakdown.com/players/jared-abbrederis/

RC Packer Fan's picture

I looked up the WR's drafted after Abbrederis.

Here is a chart of the players taken after Abbrederis.

rnd pick# player team school
5 176 Jared Abbrederis Packers Wisconsin
6 185 Robert Herron Buccaneers Wyoming
6 189 T.J. Jones Lions Notre Dame
6 190 Matt Hazel Dolphins Coastal Carolina
6 196 Walt Powell Cardinals Murray State
6 209 Quincy Enunwa Jets Nebraska
7 218 Mike Campanaro Ravens Wake Forest
7 236 Jeff Janis Packers Saginaw Valley State
7 239 James Wright Bengals Louisiana State
7 240 Tevin Reese Chargers Baylor
7 244 Jeremy Gallon Patriots Michigan

IMO, Abbrederis was by far the best WR available. The next best was Herron. I like Hazel, but not better then Abbrederis, especially when you factor in Abbrederis's ability to be a return man.

Jordan's picture

Abbrederis is an excellent pickup by the Packers. He fits perfectly on the sideline where James jones used to camp out. He'll be running the same routes as James jones. But he can play slot too if the packers were in a pinch.

James jones bread and butter was the stop and go route on the sideline to spread the field. It also happens to be Abbrederis' bread and butter too. Both relied on their savvy. Abbrederis is going to be getting back shoulder throws and an occasional deep ball on mostly the right sideline.....same as Jones.

Abbrederis is Boykin's backup at this point. He is a serious threat to Boykins' job because he's much faster. By drafting abbrederis, they're indicating they're not completely satisfied with Boykin and are trying to upgrade Boykin.

His NFL ceiling is a very good number 3 WR, in my opinion.

If you listened to thompson's comments, he talked about the ability to "catch" the ball. Abbrederis catches the ball with his hands cleanly. Rarely did James jones catch a ball cleanly (without bobbling) his entire career in GB. It's good that the packers noticed that too.

I thought they were going to take abbrederis in the 4th. He's a perfect fit for packers.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/college_player_scouting_report.html&...

DrealynWilliams's picture

I wouldn't call the "stop & go" Abbrederis' bread n butter play. I would call ANY double-move his bread and butter. His route-running amazes me every time I go back and watch his film. A lil bit from '11 up to now. He's so smooth and there's no way you can jump any of his routes 'cause neither his feet nor head leads you to where the ball is going before it's thrown.

I agree with everything else stated above.

RC Packer Fan's picture

His route running is superb. That is the one trait that the Packers love in their receivers.
Coming into the league Jared reminds me of Donald Driver. Similar size and his play on the field reminds me of his as well. I am not saying he will be as good but I think he could be a similar type of player.
I am looking forward to seeing him wear a packers uniform.

DrealynWilliams's picture

Also: His cone drill numbers (6.80) are near Brandin Cooks (6.76) while besting Davante Adams (6.82) & Dri Archer (6.86)

Cone Drill:"Displaying athleticism crucial to being a quality football player. The speed of the game at the pro level is such that fluid lateral movement and the ability to quickly change direction are critical.

His (20 yd) Shuttle drill numbers (4.08) are near Dri Archer (4.06) & Marqise Lee (4.01).

(20 yd) Shuttle Drill: Quickness is king. A players' burst can be measured through the shuttle run.

He's far from a finished product but man does he already have the major attributes checked.

Stroh's picture

Could have used the draft choice on any number of other postions besides WR. Why is it limited to just WR? How about another Safety, CB OL, ILB?

His ability as a returner is way overstated IMO. He's sure handed, limited to no explosiveness and he's not elusive. I don't see that as a good returner. Reliable maybe, but good? Not to me...

DrealynWilliams's picture

I was hoping for another safety and an ILB contender as well,but I'm glad TT went another direction. Why? Because all of the Safeties or ILBs we thought would have fit the Pack ended up being UDFAs.

Jordan's picture

You're underestimating Abbrederis. And no, I'm not a Badger homer. Abbrederis is the real deal and was great value in the 5th (for the Packers). He fits the packers offense perfectly. He's a master at the double move and will force teams to take him seriously. He's got great hands and is smart/savvy.

There's a lot of people that think the Packers defense was the problem last year. Not true. Safety and injuries was the problem. No doubt that the Packers would have grabbed shazier or Mosley, but the packers need quality. They don't need anymore mediocre linebackers. They have plenty of those.

WR was a position of need. Apparently they are not satisfied with Boykin, white and Harper. In the recent playoff loss to 49ers, Jarret Boykin caught zero passes and was targeted once. That pretty much says it all. The problem the Packers have is what their receivers do against good teams.

Adams is a red zone specialist. That his forte.

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

Jordan, I couldn't agree with you more about Abbrederis. I honestly can't believe he didn't go sooner. I'm glad GB got him. As I've said, I'm a little concerned about his frame. I think he needs some bulk, but I think he'll prove to be a Great Reciever, & maybe better than 3 or 4. Not sure if I agree that the Defense wasn't a problem last year, but you are certainly right about all the injuries. We had at one time, the Best Receiving Core in Football. I hope we can get back to that. Abbrederis is A+. If he stays healthy, he'll do nothing but help GB. A lot more than some others that I know.

Stroh's picture

Hey... I knew when I said it that I would be in the distinct minority about Abbrederis. Its what I think. My opinion!

I can point to as many factors against him as you can for him. Just being the minority doesn't make me wrong, since we have NO idea how good he'll be in the NFL yet. And we don't... Not you or I.

I agree that WR was a position of need. I like the Adams pick, even if I would have chosen a different WR, it was a good pick and matter of opinion. I also liked the Janis pick.

Route running is a good skill to have, but its a learned skill that any and all good NFL WR learn. Explosiveness and elusiveness can't be taught the same way route running can.

I think they like Boykin plenty, but are restocking the position. Personally, I would rather have Harper over Abbrederis (he was drafted higher) but they're looking for competition to sort the best of the backups out. Harper, Abbrederis, Boykin, White, Janis (probably PS for a year) can't all make the team. Packers have Nelson, Cobb, Boykin and Adams are locks. Beyond that one, maybe 2 (at most) of the 5 mentioned make the roster.

Competition makes the Packers better... Maybe I'll be wrong about Abbrederis and I did say I hope he proves me wrong, or maybe you'll be wrong.

DrealynWilliams's picture

"I can point to as many factors against him as you can for him."

Please do.

"Explosiveness and elusiveness can't be taught..."

But that's why players train/workout.

Stroh's picture

Yes too some degree, but they won't improve dramatically. You can't completely chg muscle fiber types, which are what allows an athlete to be explosive. And elusiveness isn't an acquired trait either. Not at this stage of the game. Can he gain upper body strength? Yes, but it could also cost him speed. Someone suggested he put on 15 lbs of muscle... That would cure one problem and create another. Its not like he hasn't been training for explosiveness, he's been doing it since he got to UW.

Training can only optimize explosiveness but it can't create it. Your talking in my realm of expertise now.

DrealynWilliams's picture

I'm sure coaches don't need them to improve (keyword) "dramatically". Would they like him to be a bit more faster/quicker/explosive? Sure. Can that happen? Absolutely. He's not a project WR. He's a receiver that needs to bulk up a bit and polish his all-around game.

Can we please keep in mind that this was a 5th round pick. When you are imagining players better or players that could have been a better pick - those should be players from Rounds 5 and below.

So,are you going to point out the "many factors against him"?

RC Packer Fan's picture

You said in a previous post that you would have liked a number of other WR's ahead of Abbrederis with that pick. that's all that I was commenting on.

If you had your choice at that pick, who would you have liked to of seen them get?
For me, if they didn't get Abbrederis there I would have liked Antone Exum, or Jordan Zumwalt.
But out of all of those players I still would have taken Abbrederis ahead of them. Just my opinion.

Who do you think is a better returner, Abbrederis or Hyde?

Comparing their college stats to be fair.
Hyde returned punts 29 times for 225 yards (7.8 average)
Abbrederis returned punts 55 times for 587 (10.7 average) 1 td.

Ibleedgreenmore's picture

Lets get them in and get them going.

Point Packer's picture

He's a great route runner. He is a smart receiver. Who does Aaron Rodgers thrive with? Smart wide receivers who are great at running routes. Finley's troubles were when he had to be precise. Pre-injury he was finally figuring that piece out.

Hard to gauge future success at any position, but it would not surprise me if we see Abbrederis in a Packers uniform for a long long time.

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

Point Packer, I agree 100%. As I said in an earlier post, my only concern is his build. I'd like to see him bulk up a bit.

JimTaylor31's picture

I think Abbrederis does some good things too. I agree though, that he needs to bulk up with about 15 lbs of muscle to get the most out of his other abilities. With his build at present, I see him spending a lot of time being pressed and getting banged up. If he can become a good #3-4 guy then that's just fine with me.

4thand1's picture

Well its a hung jury with one no vote. He makes the team and will produce right out of the gates.

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

4thand1, AGREED!!

JimTaylor31's picture

Well I think he'll make team but as a 5 or 6 WR. Unless we have injuries to either Cobb, Nelson, Boykin, Adams he probably won't make much of an impact. At least not this year.

RC Packer Fan's picture

He might not be a top WR right away, but I can really see him being our return man to start.
In that role he could make a huge impact in his rookie season.

JimTaylor31's picture

If he can keep Cobb from returning punts then that is a positive impact by itself.

RC Packer Fan's picture

AGREED!

4thand1's picture

Every time I watched Abbrederis play he made plays. This team and every team needs playmakers.

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