How Much Do The Packers Have To Spend on Free Agents In 2024

The Packers can be moderate spenders in free agency if they so desire.

 

 

Will the Packers be able to sign some exciting new free agents from outside the team during this off-season?  And if so, how much will they have?  To figure that out, we have to crunch a few numbers.  Remember, while some numbers are set in stone, most of them are estimates.  It is not an exact science, so reasonable people can disagree.  Also, we fans also do not really know how the Packers feel about certain players (how much the team wants them back) or how those players feel about the Packers.  Most sites are assuming that the 2024 salary cap limit will be $242M, down from as much as $256M four months ago.  So, let's get started.



Top 51 Contracts per OTC as of 2/7/24

$245,973,510

Remove cap #s for Savage, Nixon, Nijman (Voids)

-$9,480,000

Net - now top 48 contracts

$236,493,510

Add 3 ERFAs - E. Wilson, Caleb Jones, Whelan

$2,815,000

Net - New top 51 contracts

$239,308,510

Adjust for PPE raises (see below)

$4,953,071

Net Liabilities

$244,261,581

Dead Money per OTC

$5,638,122

Void Contracts Nixon, Nijman and Savage

$9,480,000

TOTAL LIABILITIES

$259,379,713

 

PPE ADJUSTMENTS FOR MYERS, SLATON, AND NEWMAN(!):

OTC is not yet listing the contracts with the new raises.  So, we have to adjust for them for the players who have earned a proven performance escalator.  Josh Myers, Royce Newman and TJ Slaton have all earned the Level One Escalator (the least lucrative escalator); Myers by virtue of playing at least 60% of offensive snaps in two of his first three seasons and Slaton and Newman because they have a cumulative average of 35% or more snaps over their first three seasons. 

The raises are not guaranteed.  Note the OTC and the NFLPA use the old cap numbers when assigning cap space because the new cap numbers do not become effective until the first day of the new league year.  Myers and Slaton are not going anywhere.  I am less certain about Newman, but I imagine the Packers will keep him on the 90-man roster at least until they determine that they have acquired a viable replacement in the draft capable of actually playing.  [I, therefore, will be praying for Newman's health during TC because a season-ending injury would mean that the Packers would be on the hook for a nearly $3M cap hit while he is on IR.]

Note that Nixon's contract voids on February 20, 2024, while the other contracts do not void until the new league year.  That means that the Packers would have to extend Nixon soon if they want to prevent the full dead money hit from counting in 2024.  









Player

21 %

22 %

23%

Ave

Old Cap

Raise

New #

Myers

26.3

99.7

99.4

75.1

1.775M

1.41M

3.182M

Slaton

23.6

32.2

56.3

37.4

1.125M

1.773M

2.898M

Newman

97.1

41.2

16.7

51.7

1.180M

1.773M

2.952M

Total Increase from old cap # to the new Cap #s:

$4,953,071

 

Let's look at the liabilities.

 




OTC2024 Cap Limit Est

$242,000,000

Rollover (probably too high)

$6,782,799

 

Cap Adjustment Est

$0

$1,087,059

Off-season Workout Placeholder #

-$907,200

 

Net Cap Space available:

$247,875,599

 

Liabilities

-259,379,713

 

Cap Space at the deadline 

-$11,504,114

-$10,964,075

 

OTC currently indicates that the Packers are $6.782M under the cap.  I would expect that some players have earned incentives and/or that the team has experienced other costs, such that the Packers end up actually rolling significantly less over into 2024.  I listed $0 for a cap adjustment but I have noted that Ken Ingalls lists $1.087M.  His numbers are usually excellent, so I assume he saw something reported in the news that I failed to see, or he has a source.  It could be an insurance credit for a player who missed time.  I have the Packers over the limit as of the start of the new league year by $11.504M but that would be reduced to $10.417M assuming that there should be an adjustment.  Ken Ingalls concludes that the Packers will be $10.964M over the limit at the deadline.  Click here to see Ken Ingalls' calculations. 

The $907,200 off-season workout number is mandated by the NFL.  It covers the cost of 80 players working out 36 times at $315 per day.  It does not include the players whose contracts have big workout bonuses - this covers mostly younger players.  The number is the same for all NFL teams.  As a note, teams make the workout payments by late June, and the actual payments usually total $200K to $300K less than the placeholder number.   

 

Now attention turns to expenses that occur later in the year, primarily signing draft picks and extending Jordan Love, and then look at expenses that come due in August and late September.





Pick #

Est cap #

Offset

Difference

25

$2,860,963

$915K

$1,945,963

41

$1,802,311

$915K

$887,311

58

$1,286,303

$915K

$371,303

88

$1,072,063

$915K

$157,063

91

$1,069055

$915K

$154,855

127

$1,005,063

$915K

$90,063

168

$868,609

N/A

 

204

$844,610

N/A

 

216

$835,063

N/A

 

243

$820,168

N/A

 

251

$818,370

N/A

 
   

Total:

$3,606,558

The table above is based entirely on Overthecap's estimates.  Click here to look at the raw data for all of the teams.  Draft picks tend to sign in May but of course sometimes it is later.  Everyone expects Jordan Love to sign an extension, which can't happen until May at the earliest.  Love's schedule cap number is $12.757M (which includes the escalators he earned in 2023).  I doubt the Packers would allow his cap number to increase too much: I expect it to be less than $15M.




Expense

Est

Max

Draft Picks

$3,606,558

 

52nd/53rd player

$1,710,000

 

PS

$3,600,000

 

Cushion Piggy bank

$5,500,000

 

NLTBE GA Bonuses

$632,352

$1,444,115

PS Elevations

$823,333

>$1,076,644

TOTAL:

$15,872,243

16,937,317

Over the cap (above)

$11,504,114

 

Over the cap Game 1

$27,376,357

$28,441,431

 

The expense for signing the draft picks is detailed above.  I reached $1.710M for the 52nd ad 53rd player contracts by assuming at least one of them would be a UDFA making roughly $795K with the other player earning $915K.  It could be more of less than $1,710,00.  The PS expense is the minimum ($12,500/week) times 16 players.  The Packers could sign some veterans who would earn slightly more.  I have been using $4M for a piggy bank but the cap has risen 22% since 2022, and the rookie minimums are increasing rapidly, so I think a more robust number is reasonable.  I wouldn't argue with $5M or $6M, though. 

The Packers usually elevate one player for most games and sometimes two.  'Sometimes they haven't elevated any players from the PS.  I estimated that the Packers would elevate one player in all 17 games and would elevate a second player in 9 of them for 26 elevations.  A rookie on the PS if elevated would earn $44,166 for that game, or $31,666 more than if they had remained on the PS.  26 times $31,666 equals $823,333. 





Player

Missed

per game

total

Bakhtiari

16

$35,294

$564,705

Alexander

11

$38,235

$420,588

Campbell

6

$41,176

$247,058

Jones

6

$23,529

$141,176

Jenkins

2

$35,294

$70,588

Max  no missed games

   

$1,444,115

 

If all of the players currently under contract played all 17 games in 2024, they would earn $1,444,115 more than expected or accounted for on the cap.  Game active bonuses are not incentives: they are paid immediately when earned and immediately count against the cap.  That is, when Bakhtiari plays his second game, the cap space will be reduced by $35,294.  The team must have this cap space on hand.  That said, I don't expect Bakhtiari or Campbell to be on the team in 2024, so I have eliminated the numbers associated with them playing in every game from my estimate.  That reduced the expected expense from $1.444M to $632,352.  Rashan Gary ($800K GA bonus or $47,058/game), Preston Smith ($800K) and Kenny Clark ($750K) all played every game.  It would be great if Jaire, Jones and Jenkins played every game even if it costs a bit, but it is reasonable to assume that Gary, Smith and Clark might miss a few games to help offset the potential cost of Jones, Jaire, and Jenkins playing all 17 games. 

 

COMPLYING WITH THE CAP - By March 13, 2024 [Easy]:

The new league year starts March 13, 2024.  The Packers will have to generate $11.5M or so in cap savings to comply ($10.5 per Ken Ingalls).  Releasing Bakhtiari saves $20.935M.  There has been some talk that he might file an injury grievance using a long-shot theory, but the Packers still would get $12.561M in cap relief while the claim is pending.  That alone would get the Packers under the cap by March 13.  If there were some problem with releasing Bakhtiari, the Packers could gain almost $11M using a Max Void Restructure on Alexander. 

 

COMPLYING WITH THE CAP - SEPTEMBER [Manageable]

 

Once the team complies with the cap by March 13, the Packers could then wait for the new league year and then release Campbell to save $10.57M.  Releasing Bakhtiari and Campbell (with a June designation) would generate $31.505M, more than enough even to meet the savings necessary by September.  [Remember  though, the savings from Post-June cuts don't hit the books until June 2.]  That target is about $27.37M by my calculations and $28.86M per Ken Ingalls  That would be enough to allow the Packers to let Love's cap number to increase to $15M or so from his currently schedule $12.757M cap number.  The Packers would still do some restructures but they would not have to be drastic.  

 

COMPLYING WITH THE CAP - September Plus Signing Free Agents [Moderate]

 

The Packers, despite their past actions, can generate a lot of cap space if they really want to.  Per Ken Ingalls:

"If the Packers...1) Cut Bakhtiari and Newman; 2) Post June cut Campbell; 3) Max Void Year Restructure Clark, Gary, Alexander, Jones, Jenkins, and Smith, then they generate $79.7M of effective cap space with $50.8M to play with in free agency.  They shouldn't do all this, but they can if needed."

I think it would be imprudent to Max Void Year Restructure any of those players, much less all of them.  I expect the Packers to wring $5M in cap savings from Jones and probably Clark, one way or another, and more space out of the others.  I think it would be fine if the Packers ended up with $14M to spend in free Agency.  They should try to sign two plus players in free agency, focusing on Free safety, Box Safety, Slot CB, ILB, offensive line and defensive line.  Which position depends on who is available at what price and positional value, while only taking a little peek at the draft.  To be clear, the Packers could sign two free agents with AAVs of $12M to $14M and write the contract so that the first year cap number comes out at about $7M for each player.  That would not be abnormal for a 4-year contract.  That type of money should snag a competent starter, even a quality starter (depending on the positional value).  

I will take a look at the contracts of the eight players in question (those earning a lot of cash in 2024) in a future article to look at the consequences of a pay cut, release (straight or post-June), trade, and the various types of available restructures, as well as the three players with contracts that void.  After all, the Packers could pay Darnell Savage $3.1M to be a back up in 2024 and he would still have the same cap number as he would if they take it as dead money.  That doesn't work with extending Keisean Nixon before his contract voids because his total dead money is only $1.48M.  

 

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Turophile's picture

February 12, 2024 at 05:20 am

I really hope the Packers take on as much of the debt (the cap hit) this year as they can, even if it means few veteran FAs are acquired and those that are, are cheap. That fiscal prudence will go a long way to getting their cap situation back to what used to be normal for them, in 2025.

Packers have never have much room under the cap, but in the past they were seldom hamstrung with such crippling dead money issues, due to them only recently pushing so much debt into the future.

Once the current enlarged youth group hit all of their second contracts, the Packers need to be in a healthy position to better deal with them. Having a top QB is going to take a big chunk of that cap regardless, so they need to be careful in order to be able to re-sign most of the young guys they want to keep, without falling back into the same hole they are currently climbing out of.

Having lots of good draft picks at least gives the Packers a shot to draft potential starters at many positions. 5 picks on day 1 and 2 means they can (potentially) get extra quality players at some of these positions : S, ILB, IOL, RB, slot CB, Edge. They might want a second S and a DL as well................and a developmental OT and a new long-snapper (undrafted FA, probably).

The more picks you have, the more you can reload your position groups without paying premium money for a veteran on his second or third contract.

The reason for the large expenditure on veterans a while back (the year they got the Smiths, Amos, the Tackle whose name I forget), was due to poor drafts earlier, leading to holes they needed to fill with vets. Good drafting greatly lessens that need and should leave enough room for the occasional good veteran.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

February 12, 2024 at 06:33 am

I am not sure how aggressive I think the Packers should be with regard to generating cap space so they can acquire a couple of key free agents. the team was better than I expected. Part of that was an outstanding draft class, and mostly due to Love blossoming in the second half of the season. OTOH, I wonder how much the soft schedule had to do with things. Then again, the Packers beat good teams like Detroit and the Super Bowl champions.

I'll have to think it out again.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

February 12, 2024 at 09:24 pm

GB sux at drafting DBs. Fill at least the top two needs there via FA if at all possible.

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T7Steve's picture

February 12, 2024 at 06:33 am

That sure got my head spinning this morning, TGR. HA! I'll have to digest this for a while.

All this stuff would have taken me weeks to research, and I probably would still have been going up the wrong tree trying to figure it out.

Thanks for doing all the legwork, TGR!

Seems unreal where this team still finds itself cap wise. By the time they're dug out of this they'll be into the next crisis.

Sad to see the end of the Bakhtiari era, but it's unbelievable how much he's cost for playing in a couple of games since 2020. That's the NFL for you.

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HawkPacker's picture

February 12, 2024 at 06:48 am

Very good detailed article TGR. I am a CPA and find this a bit mind boggling and I understand you stating that these are estimates because of all the unknowns.

I have no desire to really examine all the details as it, to me anyway, is too much like work!

We, as fans, have a lot of respect for your knowledge of the CAP issues TGR. Keep up the good work.

You make a comment about not knowing really how good we are based on the schedule, etc. I usually fall back on, 'leave to the coaches and front office'. They get to see these players almost daily and since they are much more in tune with what they are looking at each day, they know more than we do where they need to draft and sign FA's to make our team competitive and better. Injuries can come into play, of course, but I always defer to them to make the proper calls personnel wise.

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Coldworld's picture

February 12, 2024 at 07:02 am

As far as I’m concerned I only really see a need for a significant FA signing(s) at the Safety position. The rest needs to come from what we have and the draft.

It is essential that we get clean of this rolling cap debt now in order to be able to truly contend in 2025 and beyond. Safety is an exception because the cupboard is bare throughout that room. No offense to Johnson, but one interesting developmental S does not change that.

We need starters this year and none of the possible returns are desirable starters in my eyes, especially if we will play single high snaps. Draft and develop behind them. Rebuild a pipeline and prevent this position holding us back in the upcoming season. Otherwise draft and develop to augment what we have.

Whatever this team is, its players other than Jones perhaps should be better in 2025 than 2024. Get cap healthy and position us to add pieces then as needed while rebuilding depth with upside. Resign Jones, sign safeties, draft at RB, OL and on D.

Sorry, it’s time to move on from Bakh. Whoever is LT, be it Walker or Tom or a draft pick, needs to grow with the rest for the future. Campbell to me depends on the health issues as assessed by the team. If he’s seen as on a physical downslope move on from him too.

Thank you TGR for laying all of this out so clearly.

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WD's picture

February 12, 2024 at 07:14 am

We have five draft picks in the first three rounds. So, there is no urgency to dwell too much about free agency in my opinion. Instead, let us focus on the draft. I feel the elephant in the room is the inability to stop the run. It has been the Achilles heel of the defense for at least two years in a row. Everyone knows that games are won and lost in the trenches. The question is who can we add to help fix the problem up front? Granted, we need help in the secondary as well. But first things first. How can the draft help? Well, we could go safety or CB in the first round. That would be great. The second round with our two picks will be crucial. It is not who we take; it is also who is available for the rotation. Let's stop the run with pick 41 being DT T'Vondre Sweat. Outland trophy winner and unanimous first team all American. Offenses will be forced to double team him. Even then he breaks through the double teams. Did I mention the fact that he is listed at 6'4 and 362 lbs. He makes big men look small. If he is there at 41; run up to the table and draft him!

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Turophile's picture

February 12, 2024 at 03:07 pm

Guys at that weight are a liability and because they look dominant in college they tend to get overdrafted. There have been many picks in the past, of giant linemen (on O and D) who have played relatively poorly in the NFL, and most of the picks that were mistakes were linemen who were relatively athletic for their size.

Still, there will always have GMs who salivate over what a huge guy can bring (all too often it is a lot of injuries). If Sweat could get down to about 335, I'd much prefer him at that weight (and he should have better conditioning when 30lbs lighter).

A better run stuffer and also a better overall prospect in my mind, is Kris Jenkins (6'3", 305). He can bring more pass rush while being a very good run defender indeed, though he still needs technique work on pass rushing.

If you want a big built guy with more pass rush (than Sweat or Jenkins) but less ability in the run game, then Maason Smith (6'6", 315) might be your guy. Maybe he can learn to improve his run defense with pro coaching.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

February 13, 2024 at 12:15 am

I don't disagree. I would add that plugging a few holes with FAs or even re-signing guys like Nixon means Gute's hand isn't forced to reach in the draft for a position rather than just taking prospects he thinks will be good pros.

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Guam's picture

February 12, 2024 at 08:22 am

Thank you TGR. As CHTV's leading capoligist, I was looking forward to an article from you about the Packer's cap situation. You always provide great clarity on the murky business of the cap.

I was a bit surprised to find that releasing Bahk only got the Packers clear of the March 1 hurdle and did not provide them enough funding to also operate for the season. Getting funds for the season certainly puts a lot more pressure on Campbell than I realized (or requires them to assign max void years to Alexander's or Clark's contract). That makes it much more likely that Campbell is released given his age and performance over the last two seasons.

I would prefer the Packers not use too much in the way of max void years to create room to sign free agents this year. The Campbell release post June 1 will already push dead money ($8 million??) into 2025 and using void years will just push more. Get the cap right in 2024.

Not signing any significant free agent in 2024 will put more pressure on the draft, but depending on the kiddie corps worked out pretty well for the Packers this year. It was a bumpy first half of the season, but then the youngsters came on strong. I would rather try that program again than screw up the future cap by bringing in a higher priced veteran at safety. Play the draftees and get them introduced to the NFL. 2025 will look very good with experienced "kids" and a healthy cap.

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T7Steve's picture

February 12, 2024 at 08:37 am

Don't you think they'll have to appease the new DC and get him at least one new toy of his choice?

I don't like them kicking these cans down the road either. It seems to snowball.

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Guam's picture

February 12, 2024 at 09:18 am

I'm hoping the new toys come in the form of talented draftees that are his choices. If the Packers release Campbell and don't sign free agents, they will need to add safeties and an ILB or two from the draft. That means they will be using several of their top choices for defensive players which should make Hafley happy (hopefully).

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stockholder's picture

February 12, 2024 at 09:55 am

If it's that simple to cut Bahk. Do it.

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golfpacker1's picture

February 12, 2024 at 11:27 am

We are set up pretty nice for the 2024 NFL draft. Both in the fact that we have extra premium picks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds, and also because our 3 biggest needs, Safety, CB, and OG, will have plenty of really strong options in rounds 2, 3, and 4.

And depending on what happens @ #25, GB could score a top playmaker CB, or a gamechanger (for us) offensive lineman. Or if our top guys don't fall to #25, we can try to trade back and get more picks in the meat of the draft where our positions of need are strong. Plus it's the same cost for 2 second round picks as it is for one 1st round pick. Dream scenario would be the Giants still needing a QB and Nix, Penix, or McCarthy still available @ #25. We could score both of their 2nd round picks and have 4 in round 2.

What could complicate filling our biggest needs with the first 3 picks is if we slide another position group up ahead of these 3 biggest needs by picking a DT or OT, which thins the best player pools of positions we need filled. Both DT and OT would be luxury picks at this point. Since realistically, we are a "Decent" team with a fair amount of needs and not a "Good" team with few needs, we need to be cautious with sliding wants in front of needs.

We have a good group of D-linemen already, so no early draft additions there. We mainly need another really good OG early in the draft, not an OT.

We had defensive problems in 2 areas last year. Run defense and poor talent/poor tackling @ Safety both were liabilities that hurt the defense as a whole.

I propose 2 CHEAP fixes in free agency.

#1 is to sign Bobby Wagner to a 2-year contract for $9 million total. Maybe some incentives too, not that he seems to need motivation as he had 183 Tackles last year!! He would instantly make our run defense way better and we get the bonus of Walker and our draft pick LB getting to learn from one of the best ever. Wagner only made $4million last year. We should steal him for 2 years @ $5 million each.

#2 is to sign Jeremy Chinn-Safety-Panthers. I read he would be a good fit in GB and we might be interested. After 3 strong years of play he fell out of favor in Carolina. The dude is 6'3 220 and ran 4.45 @ combine. He probably isn't going to get more than it would cost us for Savage next year and he is a big upgrade for not much $$. He is still young, so he fits our youth movement too.

Those are my 2 cheap yet really cheap FA upgrades that would have a huge impact on taking our team to the next level while spending maybe $10 million. Add in a strong draft class filling our needs @ S, CB, OG, RB, and ILB, and we are set for the next 10 years.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

February 12, 2024 at 09:32 pm

"Both DT and OT would be luxury picks at this point"

Not if 7 O linemen return. Then Gutey needs to add 3, and they all need to be good.

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golfpacker1's picture

February 13, 2024 at 10:01 am

I like Powers-Johnson or a top 4 CB @ #25, or I look to trade back. If I get a top 4 CB or trade back from #25, I take Cooper Beebe, the top OG @ #41. Starting O-line fixed. Then later build depth. We can snag a multi-purpose OT/G in the 4th round, Maybe Puni-Kansas, Glazer-Maryland, Robinson-Tex A&M.

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LLCHESTY's picture

February 12, 2024 at 11:30 am

Thanks for the article TGR. I'm hoping they let Newman go to avoid paying the escalator. Not sure what the point is in keeping a guy that has repeatedly shown he can't be trusted as a backup. It would mean an extra pick having to be spent on the OL but this is the year for it with the extra picks.

I think they have to add a mid level safety in FA. My choice would be Julian Blackmon who I think they could get for around the $7.9 million they paid Savage in'23. I'm usually under on what players end up getting but OTC has his value at $7 million for last year. I
really like Xavier McKinney but I think he's going to get well over $10 million.

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golfpacker1's picture

February 12, 2024 at 11:43 am

Blackmon would be a great get. Maybe Whitehead from the Jets too. Especially if Hafley teaches him to tackle better. And he is probably projected under $7 million a year too.

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davidjbetts's picture

February 13, 2024 at 11:37 pm

I think these are big bucks, they should be recoverable.
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Green Bay Shareholder's picture

February 12, 2024 at 11:34 am

Spend Free Agent Cap Space on a Kicker, PLEASE !! How many poor decisions are forced by missed xtra points or field goals. A Championship Caliber team doesn't go into a season with a question mark as a kicker. A minimum of 5 games were altered including a parting gift with San Fran because of the decision to go with a rookie kicker who has issues with xtra points never mind field goals. Veteran Kickers are cheap as well - poor decision making process last year in that respect, let's not repeat it.

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golfpacker1's picture

February 12, 2024 at 11:49 am

More competition is needed for sure. Bringing in Podlesny to challenge is a good start. At least 2 of the 3 best kickers in college last year will probably be available after the draft as UFDAs. Josh Harty-Stanford and Harrison Mevis-Missouri

How good did it look to have kickoffs out of the end zone and not returned last night? Harty and Mevis do that as well and don't miss extra points either.

Green Bay could do a better job of attracting top UFDAs at positions of need.

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PhantomII's picture

February 12, 2024 at 11:48 am

The "Super Bowl Window" is wide open.....Bigger Badder OL gets us past SF type teams wether draft or FA. FA pro bowl level Safety plug and play. Another tough running RB at 220 lbs. That would get most of it done even if we brought back most other players. GPG

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Leatherhead's picture

February 12, 2024 at 01:14 pm

Pretty good stuff. We're in a lot better spot than we were a year ago, that's for sure.

I found your comments on Savage interesting, because it seems to me that Savage is one of our Top 10 DBs in any scenario and he wouldn't be that expensive, considering we already owe him $5M. If he could be brought back at the numbers you suggested, that seems like a very solid move for a team that has to completely rebuild that position.

I am reconciling to Campbell departing. I agree that Slaton and Myers aren't going anywhere. I have such a low opinion of Newman that I'd be reluctant to let him get injured at the facility, as you mentioned. I'd resign Runyan because he's an experienced vet who loves playing in GB, he's rarely hurt, and he can play more than one position.

Spend some of that money to resign Savage and Runyan.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

February 13, 2024 at 01:26 am

I see some downvotes. I suppose they are due to the notion of re-signing Savage and/or Runyan. I am writing an article on the Void year guys, so I won't deal with Savage here, though I think a case can be made for re-signing him.

Now re-signing Runyan can make a lot of sense, depending on what his actual market is. As you note, we know for sure that Runyan can play RG and LG. He might be able to play some center, but fans never saw him play meaningful snaps there. He could be the quintessential backup or utility interior offensive lineman. I think a utility backup IOL might be worth, what, $3M a year? More? Most teams are on the lookout for offensive linemen.

GB has done well drafting offensive linemen in the 3rd to 5th. Just remember 'spriggs, Rhyan, barbre, coston, Moll, Jamon Meredith, Cole Madison, Giacomini and maybe Newhouse (5ths). It is an art, not a science. Plus, it all starts up front.

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golfpacker1's picture

February 13, 2024 at 10:11 am

I think Rhyan is going to have a breakout year. He seems to figured it out/got his head screwed on straight last year. He was a stud @ UCLA and he was ranked as a top 7 OT on most sites. Maybe it was a bigger adjustment/demotion to go from OT to OG. Who cares as longs as he plays well.

Brandon Coleman-TCU is a player we could draft later who reminds me of Rhyan, and can play OT & OG. Puni from Kansas is my favorite multi position player though.

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PhantomII's picture

February 14, 2024 at 10:06 pm

I have trust issues with Savage. He makes a smart play in Dallas...for a pick six. Against SF he drops a junior high football pick six right to him and lets SF TE separate by several yards for an easy TD in the Playoffs. I liked Amos pretty well but even he on a goal line stand sat at the LOS as a BUCS TE trotted right by him...then he hesitates a count of 2 and it dawns on him maybe they aren't running the ball and turns around in time to see a great wide open TE catch the ball. Man when you get to these last few games you gotta be wired for it and it seems a guy can be pretty solid, but one or two gaffs and it's pack your bags see you next season. We gotta find guys that operate a tick higher in coverage, tackling and even diagnose plays at a higher/ faster rate to take advantage of all their other attributes. What these guys have works right up until we go to the Super Bowl and then it takes more...much like our OL provides before they fall off the cliff against SF and Bucs type DL's..

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Starrbrite's picture

February 12, 2024 at 05:18 pm

Holy moly James—that’s an incredible amount of work you did.
But now I’ve mixed up the packer salary cap with my bank account. I thought I had a 6mil rollover -and bought a race boat—they’re towing it away right now and a swat team is approaching the house.
This is your fault James…….

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

February 13, 2024 at 12:45 am

Hey, we're talking Green Bay here - the scheme is excellent, it's the execution (you) that was off. You weren't supposed to buy a boat. You can't outrace the swat team in a boat.

You were supposed to buy a silver black phantom bike. Oh, wait: the rider of that motorcycle dies horribly in the end. Maybe we do need a new scheme.

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