Gut Reactions: Packers 2014 Week 17 vs Lions
Aaron's Gut Reactions to the Packers' win over the Lions
By PackerAaron
Green Bay Packers wide receiver Randall Cobb by Jeff Hanisch—USA TODAY Sports.
- Please be OK QB1.
- Loved TJ Lang talking junk to Suh after that bush league crap from Suh.
- Richard Rodgers has really improved week to week all year long.
- How about McCarthy and this Packers team running all over the Lions? The Lions defense has been incredibly tough to run against all year and McCarthy and Co simply did not give a crap.
- That said, I hated how Lacy got them down to the doorstep of the endzone on that opening drive and then he didn't see the ball again until 4th down.
- DeAndre Levy is one hell of a football player.
- So is Randlall Cobb.
- Aaron Rodgers is the league MVP.
- It's really disconcerting how it took 3 quarters for the Packers' defense to key on the fact that Stafford and the Lions were throwing almost everything inside.
- Morgan Burnett wasn't quite as great as he was last week, but he was pretty damn good.
- Mike Daniels is one of my favorite Packer players in a long time. A lot of what he does doesn't show up in the box score, but damn if he doesn't win his individual battle down in and down out.
- Another blocked kick and a huge gaff on the free kick after the safety. Not to mention a near-blown onside kick. Yes, they are all individual breakdowns. But at some point, you have to start to wonder how much of these miscues are individual breakdowns and how much are systematic problems.
- Love seeing Julius Peppers show up when it matters most. He didn't get sacks, but he caused major problems for Stafford and the Lions.
- NFC North Division Champs. Again.
- Bring on a much-needed bye week for QB1 and others.
- Go Pack Go.
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Comments (106)
sonomaca
December 28, 2014 at 07:31 pm
Had Rodgers not come back, the Packers would almost certainly have lost.
Regarding Suh, I'm not sure if we want to see him suspended or not. Without him, the Lions have no chance to beat the Cowboys, which means we'll get the Cowboys, who are playing extremely well.
So, it's one of those situations where perhaps the Packers shouldn't complain too loud about Suh.
Mojo
December 28, 2014 at 09:23 pm
Agree on the Suh comment. Much rather play the Carolina/Arizona winner. Think we'll be stuck with the Cowboys. Don't see the Loins winning in Dallas even though I have Suh on my all overrated team.
Speaking of Suh, I was hoping the spread would have been wide enough to insert Lane Taylor for a crack-back block. Suh knew exactly what he was doing we he backed up on ARod's leg,. If there's any justice....
Otto
December 28, 2014 at 09:33 pm
Neither Dallas nor Detroit are going into Lambeau and winning.
joepacker
December 29, 2014 at 12:34 am
Suh should be w suspended. No reason to wish the lions any favors. We face who we face and if we don't win, we don't deserve a win.
Meantime, Suh needs to be slapped like the silly bitch he is. 3 game suspension? Carried forward to 2015...
joepacker
December 29, 2014 at 12:34 am
Suh should be w suspended. No reason to wish the lions any favors. We face who we face and if we don't win, we don't deserve a win.
Meantime, Suh needs to be slapped like the silly bitch he is. 3 game suspension? Carried forward to 2015...
sonomaca
December 29, 2014 at 08:19 am
If he's suspended:
1) Dallas will win for sure
2) Dallas will get a big lead early and rest key players
3) Dallas will be able to begin game planning for the Packers this week
No doubt about it. A Suh suspension will make life more difficult for the Packers, which is some kind of irony.
HankScorpio
December 29, 2014 at 10:11 am
"3) Dallas will be able to begin game planning for the Packers this week"
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Looking ahead of the current playoff opponent and to the next one is a recipe to blow the game in front of you.
Let's not forget the Tony Romo and Cowboy team that we've all seen for the last several years. Neither bear much resemblance to the version we see this year. Never discount the possibility they will return to being who we all thought they were.
FITZCORE1252
December 28, 2014 at 07:31 pm
Great win. QB1 went legend.
ST's may be our downfall. How many blocked kicks is that? Can't have that in the playoffs.
2 more wins, and we're in Arizona. 1 of which will likely need to be in Seattle. I think we can exact some revenge there. I believe.
Nerd
December 28, 2014 at 07:39 pm
Every bit as epic as week 17 last year.
Hopefully we'll go farther in the playoffs.
Tommyboy
December 28, 2014 at 07:31 pm
Man, I love this team. QB1 is the MVP and Lacy has no regard for humanity.
Suh honestly needs more than a fine and small suspension. The constant disregard for his actions and inevitable "Woops, I didn't mean it" is enough. There's a very fine difference between reactive anger and being a sociopath. Thank goodness he's too dumb to be a good sociopath.
Nerd
December 28, 2014 at 07:38 pm
Somebody's gonna take a shot at that dude one of these days.
BradHTX
December 28, 2014 at 10:16 pm
"There's a very fine difference between reactive anger and being a sociopath. Thank goodness he's too dumb to be a good sociopath."
Outstanding! I'd like to buy you a Spotted Cow (the good Cow!) for that one.
Lphill
December 28, 2014 at 07:35 pm
I was almost correct I said Pack 30 Lions 14 in the prediction post, although the Pack left some points on the field they could have put up 40 . tough win no matter the score , I had no doubts Aaron would not come back out.
FITZCORE1252
December 28, 2014 at 07:35 pm
Were any sacks given up? How many were given up all year? Seems like they dang near cut in half some previous years totals.
Evan
December 28, 2014 at 07:38 pm
One on Flynn.
jeremyjjbrown
December 28, 2014 at 07:42 pm
You can only get a sack if you tackle an actual Quarterback.
@ballark
December 28, 2014 at 10:35 pm
Surely you aren't talking about the actual quarterback who saved our season last year.
FITZCORE1252
December 28, 2014 at 07:45 pm
That's right.
That series right there should've cemented the MVP for Rodgers.
RCPackerFan
December 28, 2014 at 09:58 pm
That sack was on Flynn. He had I think Rodgers? In the slot to the right of him. The DB was about 10 yards off the ball from him on a 3rd and 3? How does he not do a simple throw to him?
Zola Davis
December 28, 2014 at 11:16 pm
I don't think the play calling was conducive for Flynn's success either today or other times that he's played. If needed for extended action, I think he would get in the flow and be better.
I do, however, wonder what is up with Tolzien. Head scratcher, there.
Nerd
December 28, 2014 at 07:36 pm
Eddie is a beast.
7 blocked kicks in ONE season.
This could very easily have been a blowout. That first drive getting stymied, Aaron missing time, defense giving up drives. Blocked FG.
We can beat any team in the league.
DrealynWilliams
December 28, 2014 at 07:44 pm
Why. Did. Lacy. Only. Get. 1. Carry. At. The. Goal. Line? Why? Just why!!?? Stuff like that is maddening.
"We can beat any team in the league."
I don't know why some fans needed reassurance.
Nerd
December 28, 2014 at 07:48 pm
What I mean is, I don't fear Seattle.
But I'm not looking past this first game either.
And yeah, give it to Eddie 4 times down on the goal line.
DrealynWilliams
December 28, 2014 at 07:55 pm
Oh,it's Playoff time. No team should be overlooked.
"And yeah, give it to Eddie 4 times down on the goal line."
I''ll be 100% fine with 4 Lacy HB Dives up the gut. That's why we drafted him. We have to get that fixed.
Amanofthenorth
December 28, 2014 at 10:29 pm
Head shaker. He's like Marcus Allen around the goal and he doesn't get the ball??????
Head shaking still.
Just a bit more.
And...
Ok.
Awesome year.... Again.
Fire everybody.
4thand1
December 28, 2014 at 10:32 pm
We don't know why, maybe Rodgers changed the play.
DrealynWilliams
December 28, 2014 at 07:46 pm
Maybe next time, Watt.
FITZCORE1252
December 28, 2014 at 07:46 pm
Dang Rams were in it most of the game... dang rams...
DrealynWilliams
December 28, 2014 at 07:53 pm
It's all good. Maybe we can get a team who isn't used to the cold after the bye and then a dome team after that.
chugwater
December 28, 2014 at 08:33 pm
To be the best, you have to beat the best. Seattle was mortal at home today. They won, but struggled offensively most of the game. GB with a healthy QB can beat them.
Doug_In_Sandpoint
December 28, 2014 at 10:33 pm
Fitz, Rams loss just means that we may have a chance to see the Pack for the NFC Championship. Although we have tix for the playoffs in Lambeau, I actually have a better chance of making it to Seattle. Mr. Nagler...tickets please?
FITZCORE1252
December 29, 2014 at 12:56 am
You may have tix, i sir, do not... Frowny face.
MarkinMadison
December 28, 2014 at 07:47 pm
Gritty performance by #12, but I think they lose if he doesn't come back out. Defense seemed to fall apart a bit towards the end.
Packers, Cowboys and Seahawks all finish with the same record. Cowboys beat Seahawks. Tiebreaker #1: conference record. Seahawks 1 seed, Cowboys, 3 seed. Go figure.
Nerd
December 28, 2014 at 07:49 pm
Dallas is better on the road anyway. Seattle can be beat at home.
MarkinMadison
December 28, 2014 at 08:00 pm
A preventative posting. If I had to hear that guy say, "I told you so back in week 1" about losing to Seattle again, I was going to commit hari kari. Can't even remember who it was, so if it was you I'll just apologize now.
Nerd
December 28, 2014 at 08:14 pm
I was saying that at the time. lol
But I think we can get this.
MarkinMadison
December 28, 2014 at 08:28 pm
LOL. Who knows. They could get knocked out in the Divisional Round. Then we can host the NFC Title Game in Lambeau.
DrealynWilliams
December 28, 2014 at 07:48 pm
Let's give Dom credit,guys.
Zola Davis
December 29, 2014 at 12:07 am
How effective is Lance Briggs? Can TT get him like he did Peppers?
DrealynWilliams
December 29, 2014 at 07:18 am
If we have to ask how effective a player is I don't think we should be going after that player...
SCFPackFan
December 28, 2014 at 07:49 pm
For the first time in a long time the Packers played more physical than a tough team, from Rodgers playing through the pain, solidifying his MVP bid, to Lacy and the ground game running the ball down the Lions throat. The defense did a great job of putting pressure on Stafford, limiting Calvin Johnson and keeping the Lions running attack in check.
Great game to finish off the regular season and wrap up our 4th straight NFC North title.
Now time to rest and heal and get prepared for the playoffs at Lambeau Field!
GO PACK GO!
Nerd
December 28, 2014 at 07:50 pm
Richard Rodgers is coming along nicely.
DrealynWilliams
December 28, 2014 at 07:59 pm
That 3rd down catch was a thing of beauty. Strong hands. Wide body. Maybe we should start splitting him out wide near the Red Zone.
Zola Davis
December 28, 2014 at 11:19 pm
Pondering the scenario where Quarless and Bostick are both gone next year and RR, JPerillo and another 4th rd draft pick. For a veteran, Q makes alot of mistakes.
Thegreatreynoldo
December 29, 2014 at 12:39 am
Richard Rogers has gotten better every week. I need to write that since I complained loudly about this draft pick. Still not sold on him, but he definitely was a factor today.
sonomaca
December 28, 2014 at 07:56 pm
I've had a calf strain/pull. That puppy is very easily aggravated. I seriously doubt it will be healed in 2 weeks time. The offensive line was absolutely outstanding today. If they play that way again, QB1 will not have to scramble much.
Suh's antics were a clear sign of frustration since the Lions couldn't get to a gimpy Rodgers. Had he been 100%, this would have been a romp.
4thand1
December 28, 2014 at 10:35 pm
Muscle pulls last forever.
DrealynWilliams
December 28, 2014 at 07:56 pm
We went from a lot of missed kicks one season to a lot of blocked kicks this season.
Ummm...WTF!?
Zola Davis
December 28, 2014 at 11:21 pm
Not sure of wind, but 52 yd with a hard ball....... Still, 7 is too many. Lots of variables.
Now coverage units is another issue. I hope they run laps for all the gaffs this year.
Evan
December 28, 2014 at 08:02 pm
Unrelated: good riddance, Harbaugh. One hell of a coach. Glad to see him out of the NFL. When the Bears got floated as a possible destination for him, I was genuinely worried. Thankfully it sounds like Trestman will get another year. Ha.
FITZCORE1252
December 28, 2014 at 09:40 pm
100% Agreed. Hate the guy, but he is a damn good coach. Didn't want to see him in Chicago.
barutanseijin
December 29, 2014 at 12:04 am
Harbaugh was their coach this year, but Harbaugh or not, the 9ers didn't look so hot. I think his shtick will work better at Michigan.
Zola Davis
December 28, 2014 at 11:24 pm
Thought the same thing earlier in the week. Maybe not so good for Badgers, though.
Why couldn't the camera have taken a shot of the Detroit D coordinator (Marinelli, no?). Were they high-fiving or jacking up the dirty players like they should?
DrealynWilliams
December 28, 2014 at 08:04 pm
Did Adams even get looked at today?
lucky953
December 28, 2014 at 08:33 pm
They're saving him for the Super Bowl vs the Pats.
DrealynWilliams
December 28, 2014 at 08:47 pm
Lol,so that's Adams + Janis now,right? Stop it.
cpheph1
December 28, 2014 at 08:49 pm
No targets that I remember...box score says zero targets.
Evan
December 28, 2014 at 08:53 pm
I think there was one play where Rodgers looked at him but he was being held. But that's it.
DrealynWilliams
December 28, 2014 at 08:59 pm
I think Rodgers did himself some good by catching that big 3rd down catch. He wasn't even open and #12 still went to him.
Maybe Adams is finally hitting that wall???
Zola Davis
December 28, 2014 at 11:27 pm
IMHO, the game plan was to pound Detroit as a show of force. In the right setting he will be used if the D keys on WR1 & WR@. Not that RR shouldn't be in the mix; its all about matchups. The reason I don't worry about Adams is that Boykin isn't doing much, either; so it must be the game plan.
Tundraboy
December 28, 2014 at 08:40 pm
That first drive was like a flashback to packer running the way it used to be,except until the final few yards ugh. Did Lacy and Starks disappear or did MM have to get cute again? Still a great tough win and it was great to see R Rodgers play. His was a big time catch and he has to be more of an option in the red zone.
DrealynWilliams
December 28, 2014 at 08:48 pm
I think MM tried to get cute.
4thand1
December 28, 2014 at 10:38 pm
WTF the Packers have the MVP and best QB in football, the odds are pretty good he can convert. Quit bitching about nothing.
DrealynWilliams
December 28, 2014 at 11:01 pm
How is this bitching??? Shut up. Please.
4thand1
December 28, 2014 at 11:16 pm
OK whining. They won and you have no clue if Rodgers changed the plays. Everyone jumps the gun and blames MM, not knowing the facts. And no I won't shut up. I didn't like the play calling either, but the Lions covered well on both pass attempts.
DrealynWilliams
December 29, 2014 at 07:25 am
Regardless of the play being audibled or not. Lacy was only in on 1 of those plays.
So, if we were saying #12 tried to get cute would that be bitching or whining?
This isn't a big deal. Just a simple observation. You're making it bigger than what it really is.
Tundraboy
December 29, 2014 at 11:37 am
Exactly. I'm positive at the time everyone was saying the same about the play calling at he end, Call it what you want but storming your way down the field and then not making a yard is frustrating. Not whining or complaining just wanted them to finish it off so badly to cap what was an incredible statement drive, and one that I longed to see.
hybridauth_Facebook_100004765273075
December 28, 2014 at 08:58 pm
Great win. Time for a rest. Only one thing I noticed throughout the game: what the hell is Dix doing? I see a lot of standing around and watching others make plays. Its like he only participates if the ball is thrown to someone in the middle. I calling it a bust. Sorry but he can't tackle and cannot play the position. He battled no one for the ball today. Bench time and some coaching may help.
DrealynWilliams
December 28, 2014 at 09:02 pm
Anything else?
murphy
December 28, 2014 at 09:28 pm
I heard that he is a poor tipper and also prefers cheese from California cows.
Bench him!
DrealynWilliams
December 28, 2014 at 09:30 pm
That no good,SOB! How dare the Packers draft such a player!?
Zola Davis
December 28, 2014 at 11:31 pm
OOOhhh! Cheese from CA cows? Thems fightin words!
What I see is a MB that is doing alot more than he did last year. While the pair isn't All Pro; another year together (and maybe learning how to intercept passes) will see even better play.
Norm
December 28, 2014 at 09:31 pm
Yes, can we trade him for MD Jennings?
4thand1
December 28, 2014 at 10:40 pm
Glad the coaches like him, futard, call them and let them know what a mistake they're making. Put down the pipe.
Ct Sharpe Cheddar
December 28, 2014 at 09:17 pm
Great trivia question: Last GB qb to lose to the Lions at Lambea was.......see if you can guess don't look it up
4thand1
December 28, 2014 at 10:45 pm
Scott Hunter?
Zola Davis
December 28, 2014 at 11:49 pm
I'm thinking Randy Wright.
But after looking, it would have to come down to Magic Man; Blair Kiel (RIP) or Mike Tomzcak. I can't verify, but I think it was Kiel.
Farts_After_Wins
December 28, 2014 at 09:24 pm
*poot*
DrealynWilliams
December 28, 2014 at 09:25 pm
Sunday, Jan. 11
NFC: 1:05 PM (ET) Dallas/Carolina/Arizona at Green Bay (FOX)
I'll take any of those teams. Especially the Cards,lol.
DrealynWilliams
December 28, 2014 at 09:28 pm
So,in that scenario we would need Detroit to beat the Cowboys,right?
murphy
December 28, 2014 at 09:30 pm
Correct.
Idiot Fan
December 28, 2014 at 09:47 pm
Don't overlook Dallas. They're hitting their stride, have a power run game to give us issues, and play well on the road.
DrealynWilliams
December 28, 2014 at 09:58 pm
That's why I'd like the Lions to handle them. But by no means am I worried about facing them in Lambeau.
sonomaca
December 28, 2014 at 10:01 pm
Bad weather won't bother Dallas at all. It's run, run, run...long pass to Dez. BTW: Dez is the best receiver in football at this point. He really battles for every ball. Super competitor. Ditto for Romo.
Dallas has injury problems at linebacker, so I foresee opportunities to run up the middle. With QB1 gimpy, it's going to have to be run-first, just like today.
jeremyjjbrown
December 28, 2014 at 09:57 pm
It's a bit of irony, but because they can't go to Seattle, I'll be hoping for Dallas to loose against Detroit.
barutanseijin
December 29, 2014 at 11:13 am
Remember 2007? Packers were the #2 seed. The Gints knocked out #1 Dallas & Packer fans are thinking hooray, we don't get Dallas + we do get home field for the NFC title game. The problem is that if a team can go on the road and win against the #1 seed, they can probably beat the #2 on the road, too.
And if 2007 is too far back for you, something similar happened in 2010.
Norm
December 29, 2014 at 11:52 am
Yes, I vaguely remember that 2010 team...
Norm
December 28, 2014 at 09:41 pm
Does anyone doubt the outcome if we have Stafford and they have Rodgers? For those few who still like to complain about it, this just goes to show the importance of that position and why the best QB is nearly always the MVP. Including this year. JJ Watt is a tremendous player and from all accounts a great person, but this should be a near-unanimous vote this year, and the one Flynn series that counted solidifies it. This is an 8-8 team at best without Rodgers.
Idiot Fan
December 28, 2014 at 09:50 pm
Or put it this way: if the Texans have Rodgers and the packers have watt, they're probably sitting with a high seed in the playoffs and we would probably be out.
4thand1
December 28, 2014 at 10:47 pm
Right on!
Thegreatreynoldo
December 29, 2014 at 12:44 am
Flynn had a QB rating of 91.7. LMAO
Bearmeat
December 28, 2014 at 09:40 pm
Rooting for a DET upset over DAL next week so we get the table scraps from AZ/CAR. And then an all NFCN CG! :)
sonomaca
December 28, 2014 at 09:53 pm
If the NFL suspends Suh, it's a Dallas cakewalk. Don't think they want that, so I predict they'll fine him and let him play.
zeke
December 28, 2014 at 10:14 pm
I think it's a Dallas cakewalk regardless. Matthew Stafford is awful. Watching the referee trying to explain the Lacy non-fumble to Jim Caldwell was like watching someone explaining string theory to Homer Simpson. Detroit should have lost by 21+ today. God, I hate that team.
BradHTX
December 28, 2014 at 10:46 pm
I agree. I despise the Lions in a way that's different from how I feel about other teams.
I hate the Bears with a respect and reverence for 90+ years of honorable rivalry.
I hate the Vikings for their stupid inflatable dome, god-awful horn, obnoxious fans, etc.
I hate the Cowboys because they were the roadblock to the Super Bowl in the early '90s, because of Jerry, and because... Dallas.
I hate the 49ers and Seahawks because of their jag coaches.
But I just effing hate the Lions. They are quite simply bad human beings. I really thought it was Jim Schwartz, and once he was replaced by Caldwell, a quality person, they would change. I was wrong. You put a pig in a prom dress and it's still a pig.
It's fitting that that shittiest team in the NFL would inhabit the shittiest city in America. Best thing that could happen would be North Korea nuking Detroit so we can wash our hands of that fiscally bankrupt city with their morally bankrupt team.
zeke
December 28, 2014 at 10:57 pm
The beauty of the Lions is that next year they will likely have to get rid of Megatron so that they can afford to keep Suh (and his maladaptive personality disorders) on the roster.
Totally agree with the rest of your sentiments. Here's hoping the Dallas-Detroit game ends up in a tie with a lot of injuries. (Just kidding). (Not really).
tm_inter
December 29, 2014 at 07:27 am
I hope the Lions pay Suh thru the nose to keep him for the next 5 yrs cuz Suh is way overrated. Apart from his stomping on A. Rodgers Suh was invisible the entire game. He actually sucks as a player. That's why he has to keep stomping on people so that he'd be noticed.
Evan
December 29, 2014 at 09:07 am
"Invisible" is an exaggeration, but I don't believe he's anywhere near as good as his rep.
I know I'd rather have Mike Daniels.
Zola Davis
December 29, 2014 at 12:00 am
Lion's are dirty like the 80's Pistons. Bill Lambeer, et al; man they were bad.
Did you see the idiot Viking motorcycle dude waving pom-poms in the endzone? Only thing better is if they would've been pink.
Bears: I agree with the rivalry.
Cowboys: yeah, hate them too. Michael Irving is going to get slugged by Marshall Faulk one of these weeks because he doesn't shut up! What don't you get that your face time should be about 1/5th of the show; commesurate with the others. Just shut up already, you're just a diva WR. That said, one of my finest moments was marching my family (in full green/gold) into Cowboys Stadium 2 months after GBP won "their" SB! The staff tried to talk smack, but I had their number! Yes!!!! Then visiting "their" lockerroom, where the Pack was the only NFL team other than their precious teams' because the Pack was the "home" team. I thought I heard Jerry still sobbing, but I think he was too busy finding a new coach.
SF/Seattle: REALLY want to avoid another Seahawk SB win; because I think both teams play too much off emotion which can't be sustained long-term. Yes it gets them some success, but when salary cap realities set in, the morale suffers.
sonomaca
December 28, 2014 at 11:14 pm
Nice. Reminds me of Tiger at Masters a couple of years ago. Hit it in the water. Didn't know the rules on dropping. Only been playing for 30 years!
barutanseijin
December 28, 2014 at 10:26 pm
I don't think the Lions were bad, just not as good as the Packers today. This was a well-played game -- with the exception of the blocking on the Packers' kicking unit.
Mr_Fastbucks
December 29, 2014 at 01:19 am
How good is this offensive line? They sprung Lacy and Starks early, blowing up the myth of the great Lions run defense. Then they protected a nearly immobile quarterback in the second half and made the only memorable moment for Suh his thuggish stompy feet. My game ball goes to them.
HankScorpio
December 29, 2014 at 06:51 am
Yup, the o-line was pretty darn good.
Again.
There was plenty of talk this past offseason about the potential of this o-line to be the best Packer line in quite a while. It has pretty much worked out that way. I don't think they are on par with the great Cliffy-Wahle-Flanagan-Rivera-Tausch unit of the early to mid 2000's. But they are nosing their way in to the conversation.
balding_pastor
December 30, 2014 at 01:04 pm
I like this years guards/center than 2003. 2003's Tackles were clearly better than this years. Ahman and Eddie are totally different backs though so it's hard to say how they'd have run behind those lines.
Thegreatreynoldo
December 29, 2014 at 01:51 pm
Well said, Mr. Fastbucks. The running yards did get a little harder to come by after that first drive, but it was still effective, in part to the line and to the toughness of Lacy. Protecting a statue is a great point as well.
DrealynWilliams
December 31, 2014 at 07:26 am
Well, that's because a safety began to fly down towards the line of scrimmage. But what happened after that? Rodgers started lighting their asses up. It was beautiful.