Eight Jets Players That Could Be Included in a Trade Package for Aaron Rodgers
If Aaron Rodgers gets traded, the New York Jets are seen as the clear favorites to land the future Hall of Fame quarterback. And, while the compensation for the Green Bay Packers is unclear and hard to calculate, there is a scenario where the Packers receive one or multiple players as part of the package.
Per sources. Aaron Rodgers and the Jets had conversations today. While nothing is imminent Rodgers is open to the idea of going to NY
— trey wingo (@wingoz) March 7, 2023
Last year, for example, the Seattle Seahawks got quarterback Drew Lock (who ended up being Geno Smith's backup), tight end Noah Fant, and defensive lineman Shelby Harris, besides draft capital.
Aaron Rodgers' age and contract make his trade value lower, but it's still possible that the Packers will get picks and player(s).
So, let's realistically analyze some Jets players who could be part of the package — and no, the Jets are not including Sauce Gardner, Garrett Wilson, or Quinnen Williams.
In order of probability/need for the Packers/reality for the Jets:
WR Denzel Mims
Contract absorbed: $ 1.35 million in 2023
Mims is the kind of receiver Packers general manager Brian Gutekunst likes. He's 6'2, 207 lbs, and has a 9.7 RAS. However, his career has been a disappointment so far in New York. He had 357 yards in 2020, 133 in 2021, and 186 last season, with no receiving touchdowns. It would make sense, however, to bet that a change of scenario could salvage his career.
EDGE Jermaine Johnson
Contract absorbed: $ 1.3 million in 2023, $ 1.89 million in 2024, $ 2.49 million in 2025, fifth-year option available for 2026
That one would be perfect for Green Bay, but it's questionable if the Jets would accept it, because Johnson was a first-round pick last year, even though he's behind Carl Lawson and John Franklin-Myers on their depth, finishing his rookie season with 2.5 sacks. He still has three years under an inexpensive contract, and the rights for a fifth-year option for 2026. He would be the ideal solution to the edge rotation, to be behind Rashan Gary and Preston Smith, and maybe be a long-term starter.
WR Elijah Moore
Contract absorbed: $ 1.47 million in 2023, $ 1.88 million in 2024
Moore had a promising rookie season in 2021, with 538 yards and five touchdowns. His production wasn't as good last year, when he had 446 yards and one score, and that's probably related to the fact that Garrett Wilson commanded a lot of targets. Moore would be a good replacement for Randall Cobb and for what the Packers wanted from Amari Rodgers as a true slot receiver. The problem is Moore had a bad relationship with former Jets offensive coordinator Mike LaFleur, who happens to be the brother of Packers head coach Matt LaFleur.
CB Michael Carter
Contract absorbed: $ 940k in 2023, $ 1.055 million in 2024
The Packers could solve a secondary issue by adding Michael Carter, the defensive one, who started for the Jets as a nickel corner last season. He still has two cheap years under contract and could play the same role in Green Bay, while Rasul Douglas could move to a full-time safety.
RB Michael Carter
Contract absorbed: $ 940k in 2023, $ 1.055 million in 2024
The Packers need a third running back behind Aaron Jones and AJ Dillon, so it would make sense to acquire Michael Carter, the offensive one, who fell behind Breece Hall on the Jets depth chart. The problem is Hall is injured, so the Jets would probably want to keep Carter to start the season.
SS Jordan Whitehead
Contract absorbed: $ 7.25 million in 2023
Whitehead would certainly be a starting strong safety for the Packers. The problem is his contract, because he is already a veteran. The Packers would have to adjust or extend his deal in order to make it work in a complicated financial situation.
WR Corey Davis
Contract absorbed: $ 10.5 million in 2023
The same financial issue applies to Corey Davis, who has one more year under contract. However, Davis is expected to be released, so he might be more open to a pay cut. If he agrees to it, the Packers could add a veteran, smart, and willing blocker to the receiver room. He wouldn't be an electric player, but a useful piece to eventually replace Allen Lazard.
QB Zach Wilson
Contract absorbed: $ 3.85 million in 2023, $ 5.45 million in 2024, fifth-year option available for 2025
It might not make sense for anybody, but it's also impossible to 100% exclude this possibility. As Lock was part of a Russell Wilson trade package, Zach Wilson could go to Green Bay to be Jordan Love's backup. However, he's not as cheap as you'd expect for a player on his rookie deal because he was the second overall pick, and the Jets reportedly want to keep him behind the eventual veteran acquired in hopes he develops someday.
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Comments (89)
Guam
March 07, 2023 at 10:28 am
Draft choices, not players.
The Packers salary cap prevents them from taking on expensive veterans and outside of Carter, the cheaper Jet's players look more like problems than solutions. Take the draft choices, draft players at positions of need and rebuild.
PaulMolitor04
March 07, 2023 at 12:13 pm
Draft picks?
Are you familiar with Brian’s draft history???
He stinks at evaluating talent.
Yeah.
They need proven talent.
Guam
March 07, 2023 at 05:06 pm
Disagree. Virtually every GM bats about 50% on their draft choices. Gute is no different from other NFL GMs.
Thegreatreynoldo
March 08, 2023 at 03:10 am
After round 2, Gute should just throw darts at names on the wall and hope.
Racingdad
March 07, 2023 at 04:13 pm
I would take the edge or cb or e. Moore as they are still on cheap contracts but include some day 2 picks also
golfpacker1
March 07, 2023 at 07:09 pm
In a different article I suggested this very scenario. The Jets are not impressed with Mims or Moore and I would ask for both since they were both 2nd round picks and on cheap contracts. Plus the fact we were in love with both players in their respective drafts. Especially Mims. Many thought he would be the Packers 1st round pick that year. 6'3 210 lbs and fast. the thing is they have had no one to throw to them. The Jets aren't hot for either one. Add Jeremy Ruckert-TE to the list. 2nd year player Green Bay liked alot in 2022 draft. He was the 4th TE taken in draft.
Here is a wild card for you. Trade Bahktiari also in this scenario with the Jets. Aaron would also love this as his buddy would be in New York with him. We could get back Mecki Becton, another player the Jets are tired of and would give another pick to boot for Bahk. He was the 12th pick 3 years ago and still has big time potential. 4 really good players at positions of need and would let us concentrate on other positions in the draft.
I also would call the Broncos and offer Savage for TE Albert Okwuegbunam, 6'5 260 and another player we were hot for in the draft 3 years ago. Again no good QB play for Denver.
stockholder
March 07, 2023 at 10:32 am
Another crazy idea.
You'll be lucky to get a 3rd.
Green Bay is strapped.
Play him or cut him.
If I'm Rodgers I don't care
what Gutey thinks.
Pay me.
Bear
March 07, 2023 at 01:27 pm
20 years counted.
According to Pro Football Reference, most drafted players are busts. the only problem with their system is they don’t take into account the round they where picked. But anyway…
16.7% don’t even end playing for the drafting team (20 years average) 37% are considered ‘useless’, or busts. 5.3% are ‘poor’. Busts such as Jamarcus Russell are here.
So 69% are ‘poor’ or worst.
10.5% average
12.3% good 6.8% great 1% legendary
That gives 20.1% good. 2 out of 10.
jannesbjornson
March 07, 2023 at 02:43 pm
What does that tell you about NFL hiring talent for their front office operations?
Johnblood27
March 07, 2023 at 04:37 pm
not as much as it tells me about the people getting college scholarships...
Tekraut17
March 08, 2023 at 06:39 am
Or about armchair GM's on fan sites...
dobber
March 07, 2023 at 10:32 am
Some of those guys are young players the Jets would probably want to keep in support of a run in 2023 and 2024, or they would be the "trash" the Jets will just end up cutting anyway. The Packers aren't in a position to take on much cap in return as the increased cap hit on moving 12 makes the Packers' cap awfully tight. I would be opposed to eating up potential draft and cap capital with most of those guys, if there's any choice in the matter.
T7Steve
March 07, 2023 at 12:42 pm
Yes. We could just try to sign our FAs except if they could swing an edge for edge sign and trade for Lowery. I'd go for that.
dobber
March 07, 2023 at 12:49 pm
Jermaine Johnson was a guy I really wanted last year. He didn't do much as a rookie for them.
LLCHESTY
March 07, 2023 at 06:35 pm
One teams trash is another teams treasure. I found Ashtyn Davis in about a minute, spent a couple minutes looking into him and thought he could compete. There's probably a couple others that they don't see as future assets that might perk up with a change of scenery.
Leatherhead
March 07, 2023 at 07:28 pm
How are we supposed to get compensated in this draft for a trade that probably doesn't take place until after the draft is over.?
More probable, IMO, is that we'll get the compensation next year, but that we might get a player as well.
RobinsonDavis
March 08, 2023 at 10:57 pm
I thought this was a possibility too, Leatherhead, but it looks like there may be a way for a trade to happen sooner if the Jets news is accurate. But I also agree a trade for a player or players could be involved. My son and I were throwing around the idea (2 weeks ago prior, to the Silverstein article) that Bakhtiari could be involved and enabling the Packers to dump their two largest salary issues, with Cobb following later via FA. This would allow a 1st round this year, with a multiple picks into the next couple of years that have contingencies built in (conditional picks for Rodgers). It would allow the Packers to work around their cap issues both this year and next and give a trading team the capital to meet the Packers needs and the security of Rodgers playing for at least 2 years. It would also give the Packers time to assess Jordan further and give them 1st round picks in back to back years to manipulate further as needed. The Packers roster still needs inexpensive players, which will require more salary moves, and I still believe trading back in the draft. Having an extra 1st round pick could translate into up to 2 more "less , expensive" bodies by trading back one or twice, while maintaining a 1st round pick. And yes, having to fill yet another void.
On a similar issue, If I am reading this right, Overthecap has a pre-June 1st trade for Rodgers would only cost $8.7 million against the cap, which I grant you is against the narrative many writers are stating. Bakhtiari trade would save roughly $5.7million. Anybody wish to comment on this point aobut the Overthecap numbers? Dobber?
golfpacker1
March 08, 2023 at 09:44 am
Ok I think the Nfl draft is about getting good players that fit your system to fill the positions on your roster. Why would it be any different to take back some talented players @ positions of need? We are rebuilding the WR and TE rooms and Mims, Moore, and Ruckert all qualify as talented and on very reasonable contracts. We still would get the same draft picks for Aaron but we can also grab some other good pieces that they don't need but would be valuable to Green Bay. They want Rodgers badly and giving us 3 extra good players doesn't hurt the Jets.
This is a one time opportunity and we should take advantage of it by getting as much as we can.
PatrickGB
March 07, 2023 at 11:10 am
It’s all hypothetical now. Yet I would prefer draft picks. Even if they are conditional. If the team wants to rebuild then draft picks make the most sense. Rodgers cap hits will continue for a while and the team can’t really afford veterans who will only make it worse.
murf7777
March 07, 2023 at 12:46 pm
Right on Patrick. IF the Rodgers trade goes thru, we are officially in rebuild.
dobber
March 07, 2023 at 12:50 pm
It might impact how they draft, but I think they would be fielding largely the same team either way.
murf7777
March 07, 2023 at 03:01 pm
We might have largely the same team, but the dynamics will be different. It will go from push all cap down the road to win now, to rebuild with a new young QB into the future. I think you will see some vets traded or released in order to build with more youth.
dobber
March 07, 2023 at 03:50 pm
Maybe, but they will have had to re-do enough contracts to enable the deal and secure the cap that cutting/trading those guys (who are the ones making any reasonable coin) would decimate what was left of the cap. Maybe post Jun. 1?
Thegreatreynoldo
March 08, 2023 at 03:23 am
GB hasn't touched the contracts of:
Bakh
Gary
Campbell
Douglas
Runyan
O'Donnell
I think those are most of the possible trade release candidates. They probably need to do something with most of them especially if they get pick 13 that they have to sign him. That's what, $3.35M (per OTC) minus a $750K offset.
golfpacker1
March 08, 2023 at 09:35 am
Not if you trade it for two 2nd round picks and a 3rd. Unless it is one of the top 3 players in the draft is still available the smart move for a team with alot of needs and not much $$ is to trade back for more draft assets. You fill 3 roster holes by trading the pick. This year is about starting the rebuild/reload.
Racingdad
March 07, 2023 at 04:18 pm
I think if we take the 40 mil dead cap hit this season for ar that’s it . There would be no other charges for him however there may be some other guys cap hits that were extended to “ go all in”
Coldworld
March 07, 2023 at 11:11 am
If we part company we want cap relief in 2024 and beyond and that likely means draft picks now. If the Jets trade for him, they will want to keep any ascending player now to help them be as strong as they can this year. I do not see players being likely compensation except maybe Wilson, but I only see that as likely if that’s the only way to get a trade done (and I doubt that).
PatrickGB
March 07, 2023 at 11:14 am
Cold, you 🔨 nailed it.
BirdDogUni
March 07, 2023 at 02:52 pm
The only caveat for me, would be: Mike White
Everyone seems to think they want to jettison Wilson, but I think they want him to learn behind AR, much like Love did. Rodgers may want to play one or two more years? Maybe three? IDK, but Rodgers admittedly likes Wilson, so I think the Jets would be wise to keep Wilson and maybe (?) move Mike White?
If the NYJ were to include Mike White in the trade, I would be all for it, personally...
Racingdad
March 07, 2023 at 04:22 pm
White is a fa right now I believe
Thegreatreynoldo
March 08, 2023 at 03:26 am
yup. White is a UFA.
golfpacker1
March 08, 2023 at 09:51 am
The Jets have said nothing about trading Wilson. They would be in the same situation as we are, trade for Rodgers so Wilson can sit behind him and learn to play QB just like Love did. I would prefer getting 3 players like Mims, Moore, Ruckert for less money than Wilson and they would actually play at positions of need. Ruckert would be our best TE on thw current roster until the draft. We should still get the same picks for Rodgers regardless.
Racingdad
March 07, 2023 at 04:31 pm
I’d bet we could get e moore ( he’s cheap for 2 more years)only because ar might insist on Cobb , big dog , maybe even Lazard so he has a couple of his guys there Just a thought
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
March 07, 2023 at 04:57 pm
I haven't followed Zach's career with the Jet's. Is there any hope for this guy? The Packers would definitely need a good back-up QB and cannot afford to sign any decent FA. Thoughts anyone?
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
March 07, 2023 at 04:58 pm
Bird,
Didn't think about Mike White....interesting possibility!
Swisch
March 07, 2023 at 11:34 am
If the Jets trade for Rodgers and take on most of his salary, would that mean the Packers could get cap relief this season to sign our own players (e.g., Lazard) and/or free agents from other teams?
***
That would be a big plus to me.
Let's get as much as we can for Rodgers, but not get greedy.
I'd take a 2nd-round pick in this draft and a 2nd for next year.
Here's hoping a trade happens soon, and works out well for everyone involved, including us as fans.
WestCoastPackerBacker
March 07, 2023 at 03:55 pm
There's sill a big dead cap hit if Rodgers is traded though.
Racingdad
March 07, 2023 at 04:26 pm
We actually get hit with 9 mil more dead cap this yr if he’s traded but than it’s over and 24 cap would be in much better shape. Remember dead cap hits are for money already pd to player but counted in future unless player is traded or cut than it all counts in that year. If he plays for gb one more yr than retires or is traded dead cap hit is 62 million
RobinsonDavis
March 08, 2023 at 11:08 pm
Yes! I think you nailed this, Racingdad & is my point above about the Overthecap numbers.
PackEyedOptimist
March 07, 2023 at 11:38 am
I continue to believe, that the best trade of Rodgers is for 2024 draft picks:
1. Rodgers doesn't see players he likes on the Jets having to leave(making him more amenable to the trade). the Jets should also prefer that, since a trade for Rodgers screams "all-in NOW!"
2. With Rodgers gone, NEXT year should be the target for peaking with Love, or needing to draft a DIFFERENT QB, which means extra picks in 2024 are valuable for trading up.
Heck, if we trade Rodgers, I'd also jump at any offered trades of our high picks this year for higher picks next year. (unless, of course, someone ridiculously good is available on our pick this year). My favorite would be a trade down plus equal pick next year, e.g. our #15 for someone's late #1 or high #2 this year plus their #1 in 2024.
WestCoastPackerBacker
March 07, 2023 at 03:57 pm
If you want to peak with Love next year, then you don't want all the draft picks to be rookies next year. You'd want some 2nd year guys that were drafted in 2023.
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
March 07, 2023 at 05:00 pm
Exactly West Coast!
Not only that but the Packer organization would take a huge PR hit if the team nose dived and the Jets did very well in 2023.
RobinsonDavis
March 08, 2023 at 11:20 pm
I think you both are right here, WCPB. Even with all the salary cap reduction, there is a large roster need this year that will require some Free agent signings, while still having a slim cap to sign your draft and potential new contracts for Gary/Runyan/Dillon. Trading back makes sense, but put play-makers around Love now where you can.
Handsback
March 07, 2023 at 12:12 pm
Not players but picks please....
golfpacker1
March 07, 2023 at 07:19 pm
Cheap, young, great potential at positions of need. Hmmm, sounds like a good scenario for a cash straped team like us. Mims and Moore were rated high in their drafts and both were 2nd round picks who got drafted by a shitty team. Take them in a second in this trade. Add in Mecki Becton OT, their #1 pick 3 years ago by trading Bahktiari. Salary dumps of Rodgers and Bahk.
Heyward
March 07, 2023 at 12:35 pm
Might as well put Joe Namath and Emerson Boozer on this list. They're just as likely to be included in the trade.
T7Steve
March 07, 2023 at 12:47 pm
I always thought that was one of the best football names. "Emerson Boozer"
dobber
March 07, 2023 at 12:51 pm
Right up there with "Harry Colon".
T7Steve
March 07, 2023 at 01:10 pm
Good one! No name can beat racings' "Dick Trickle".
dobber
March 07, 2023 at 03:51 pm
Ooof!
Ferrari-Driver
March 09, 2023 at 04:48 pm
dobber, that stinks. My Doc said I am due for a colonoscopy which is near the bottom of my bucket list. I'm just like most guys, better at giving it as opposed to taking it.
Packer_Fan
March 07, 2023 at 01:45 pm
Draft picks only. There are plenty of free agents for TE, S and WR.
I think the Packers will be competitive with Love, but we need the draft picks in 2024 and 2025 to be ready for another run.
golfpacker1
March 07, 2023 at 07:21 pm
Free agents that are any good would cost way more. We need cheap WR with talent to fill out the WR room. Take them both and run.
HarryHodag
March 07, 2023 at 02:05 pm
Wilson's contract is do-able. If they hauled in a capable veteran as a backup it would be even more than Wilson.
My prediction if all this unfolds as a trade to the Jets:
2023 draft: Round 1 and round 4.
2024 draft: Round 3.
Player: pick one of the above.
EnemyTerritory
March 07, 2023 at 04:14 pm
God NO. Not a third rounder. Better a bag of footballs…. Easier to throw away
ImaPayne
March 07, 2023 at 05:56 pm
I'm with you, a one pick now, and possibly a two or three next season. A one and two this season would be good but I think the pack want to unload a lot of salary instead and a one pick to boot?
The Jets understand Rodgers will be 40 so he wont be around long term. They will need picks too.
BirdDogUni
March 07, 2023 at 02:33 pm
ZERO PLAYERS! SMH
LLCHESTY
March 07, 2023 at 06:44 pm
I disagree there BDU. I'd try to include a castoff or two at the end of the deal. Guys that cost next to nothing and could be cut easily but can provide some competition for rookies. I mentioned Ashtyn Davis below. Jeremy Ruckert would actually cost some draft assets but he'd be instantly the best inline TE not named Lewis on the team in case the draft doesn't go the Packers way when it comes to TEs. But mainly I'd be looking at a throwaway guy or two they aren't going to resign that a wake up call might induce a little production from.
As far as taking on a big contract instead of picks definitely not, unless the owner gets involved and Quinnen Williams is in the table.
BirdDogUni
March 07, 2023 at 02:42 pm
Since the Jets are flying to visit Aaron Rodgers, he's already one up on Brett "Sexual Favor" Favre... ; P
Although, the FO did fly to Kiln, to talk to Brett... (IIRC)
Personally, I feel a trade to the Jets is what is best for AR, the best for Jordan Love, and the best for the Packers in the long run.
I do not think we need to trade for Jets players though.
I would however demand the HCs be swapped if I could sneak that into the trade. ; )
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
March 07, 2023 at 05:03 pm
I prefer draft picks as well, but do think either Zach or White as a back-up to Love is important, otherwise the Pack has a big need at QB.
ricky
March 07, 2023 at 02:57 pm
Whoa, pilgrim, time to slow our roll. So Rodgers has decided he'll talk to the Jets. How nice. But it means nothing. Rodgers has a strong streak of "troll" in him, and loves the attention and analysis he gets for every move he contemplates. Kind of like The Police", who sang "every breath you take, every move you make, I'll be watching you." One of many songs they did with really, creepy lyrics. Anyway, until Rodgers has a press conference, and says he would be willing to move on, and that he and the Packers brass are in agreement on this, it means very little. So, Rodgers gets wined and dined in the Big Apple, and told how much the Jets would love to have him join the team. It keeps him entertained during the off-season, keeps people guessing, and massages his ego. If it ultimately leads to his departure for New York, then we can find out who and what the Packers got in return. Before that, it's all speculation.
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
March 07, 2023 at 05:05 pm
As an incentive the Jet's should have on the plane to CA whatever that gals name was that drove Favre to send graphic photos to her? Humor friends....humor!!!
LeotisHarris
March 07, 2023 at 07:00 pm
Not even close to being funny, bud. She "drove" Farve to send dick pics and lewd texts? Really?
“I want to act like my life isn’t still drastically impacted by another persons treatment of me, but that would be a lie. To think my legacy and everything anyone knows of me.. can be summed down to the title of ‘The Brett Favre Girl,’ is not only disgusting. But disheartening.”
https://www.forbes.com/sites/christianred/2021/02/05/jenn-sterger-reflec...
LLCHESTY
March 07, 2023 at 03:24 pm
I'd see if they could get Ashtyn Davis in a throw in deal. As in "throw in Ashtyn Davis and you've got a deal." Played only 13 snaps on D after playing 745 the year before. Ran track at Cal so he's fast and played a lot on STs last year. Played a lot of Cover 2 FS at Cal. Someone to bring in to compete with a rookie.
Lphill
March 07, 2023 at 03:41 pm
Is Joe Barry included in the trade ?
LLCHESTY
March 07, 2023 at 06:30 pm
I think...let me take a closer look. Yep, that horse is dead.
stockholder
March 07, 2023 at 03:56 pm
Gutey has wrecked this franchise.
If Rodgers goes, they must clean House.
WestCoastPackerBacker
March 07, 2023 at 04:07 pm
Too late for that. They've already extended a bunch of guys. Eventually every franchise gets pretty wrecked when a top QB gets a market contract. Particularly when much of the rest of the team are highly paid at their position, b/c of their talent.
stockholder
March 07, 2023 at 04:14 pm
No this started when Love was Drafted.
And it may have started sooner than that.
When Gutey was picked over Wolf Jr.
Especially since Rodgers was blamed for getting MM fired.
Johnblood27
March 07, 2023 at 04:44 pm
Can we include you in any deal for AR?
Talk about addition by subtraction!
stockholder
March 07, 2023 at 05:02 pm
If Rodgers really wants out of GB.
The best place for him is Carolina.
PackyCheese500
March 07, 2023 at 07:35 pm
No. NY offers him the best place to win a SB (which I hope he does, as long as it isn’t against the Packers).
RobinsonDavis
March 08, 2023 at 11:31 pm
Agree. All you have to do is look at the 2 most recent Free Agent QB signings, and you understand that the Rodgers contract was not bad...and Rodgers is still a better QB than the other two, IMO. Its just time to move on. We cannot afford it at this point. We need to NAIL the next couple of drafts!!
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
March 07, 2023 at 05:08 pm
Hmmmm....
interesting perspective SH as Gutey's first 3-seasons at the helm he rescued the Packers from the two previous losing seasons and immediately took them to 13 & 3 for the next three years, and yes....Rodgers also won the MVP two years in a row with Gutey surrounding him with talent and running the show.
LambeauPlain
March 07, 2023 at 05:37 pm
Agree. The only accountable thumb print Gutey has made on the Packers during his tenure, is with the players on the team now.
Gutey's worst draft year was his first year as personnel manager in 2018 (he did draft Alexander the Great). He followed that up with his best FA acquisition year in 2019: Smith, Smith, Amos, Turner. Since then his drafts have gotten better and he still finds eye opening FA gems: Douglas, Campbell, Nixon, McDonnell, etc.
Acquiring talent? Gutey has been very good. But the other GM stuff? That has been Mark Murphy's thumb.
LLCHESTY
March 07, 2023 at 06:32 pm
If Rodgers is traded and Love is terrible Gutey is gone, you realize that right?
MainePackFan
March 07, 2023 at 07:00 pm
That's a fact. It's the price you pay. The Love pick will define Gute as a Packer GM. As a Packer fan, I hope he got it right.
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
March 07, 2023 at 09:46 pm
It isnt about the QB's stats LL! Terrible is when the team once again has a losing record like it had in 2022 with Rodgers at the helm for all 17 games. Should the Packers have a losing record in 2023 during Love's first year starting it will be no different than 2022 with Rodgers. Gutey isn't going anywhere!
It will come down to how well Guteys draft was, and FA player acquisition? LF would be gone before Gutey if poor win/loss record seeps into 2024. A 3rd consecutive bad year in 2024 that might not be good for Gutey!
ImaPayne
March 07, 2023 at 05:53 pm
My two cents which arent worth a pos since I've been saying Rodgers doesnt want a trade and wants to stay home, I would see the pack looking to get rid of salary and maybe get a one pick now and like a 2 or 3 next season versus taking on some Jets who may also have big contracts to deal with.
I just dont see the Jets getting rid of young talent. Especially real talent that Rodgers needs to win.
PackyCheese500
March 07, 2023 at 07:34 pm
Yeah, I tend to agree with you. Maybe they trade one of their TEs, maybe Conklin? They already have Uzomah, and maybe that would pave the way to sign Tonyan in free agency (the Jets)
jhtobias
March 07, 2023 at 06:59 pm
So if this trade actually happens compensation has already been agreed upon I assume by now .
Just Tell Rodgers that Joe Berry won't be the Defensive Coordinator in New York he doesn't need a dark room to see the major upgrade that is
golfpacker1
March 07, 2023 at 07:35 pm
Lets see. The Jets have made it really clear. They are all in on trading for Aaron Rodgers. They want him bad. We will get decent draft picks back for him. We need good, young, cheap players at positions of need (Wide Receiver). Mims and Moore were top ten receivers in their draft classes and neither makes $2 million a year. Moore would start at Cobbs position at slot and Mims is 6'3 210 lbs and ran 4.4 40. The Jets have cooled on both. Ask for both in the trade, they wouldn't bat an eye. Both would make the squad of 53 next year and wouldn't even cost a pick. Other teams will want Rodgers too and that will drive up the price. Ask for the moon, you gotta start negotiating somewhere. The Jets want him.
PackyCheese500
March 07, 2023 at 07:24 pm
What about TE Tyler Conklin? That seems to make the most sense to me. The Packers have a large need at Te and he’d only cost about 5.3m. He is a great pass catcher and blocker
Edge Michael Cleamons, a 5th round rookie of 2022 who had a nice season, may also be an option
golfpacker1
March 08, 2023 at 10:01 am
I think the Jets just signed Conklin to a new contract. The better also cheaper TE to ask for in a trade is Jeremy Rucker. He was their 3rd round pick last year.
RobinsonDavis
March 08, 2023 at 11:37 pm
I think they can get two this year in the draft , with 1 surpassing any Jets TE and the other equating to what they may receive from the Jets. Just my opinion.
golfpacker1
March 08, 2023 at 10:16 am
I would like to see the Packers offer Bahktiari to the Jets in this trade. Number one it would cement Rodgers saying yes to the deal. That is still a possibilty. The Jets wouldn't be asking for the Packers to pay some of Rodgers salary as some experts have suggested. The Jets need a starting OT so they would love that. We could trade him for OT Mecki Becton who was the 11th pick of 2020 draft, He hasn't done much for them and from what I read he could be traded. I think we could also get a 2nd round pick to boot. And they could throw in one of the above players also. Zach Toms could take Bahktiaris spot and wouldn't be hurt all the time. A win win for both teams and takes away the chance Aaron says no and screws this trade up. Helps fix the salary cap and we get talent back. Becton was the top OT in 2020 draft. Throw in MIms or Moore and its a deal.
Dagger
March 09, 2023 at 06:02 pm
I would take Elijah Moore in a heartbeat. Just the slot we could really use in a JLOVE offence. It seems pretty doubtful they would give him to us in the trade.
golfpacker1
March 10, 2023 at 10:00 am
Thanks KneelYoung. I can't understand why Packers fans wouldn't want some good, young, cheap with still alot of potential and talent, players back in this deal. From most of latest rumors Green Bay is not getting much in the way of picks back. Really disappointing after missing the deal of the century last year by not trading Rodgers. Love might have got 9 wins last year but back to the topic.
We have alot of roster spots open. We don't have much $$ to sign players. Free agents worth signing don't sign for minimum $$.
Elijah Moores cap hit is 2.4 million, not much for a highly rated 2nd round receiver who the packers were hot on his draft year. He needs a change of scenery. He has fallen on depth chart and wants traded. The Jets have floated that during and after the season. If he was in this draft we would probably draft him in 2nd or 3rd round.
Denzel Mims cap hit is 1.7 million. Cheap for former 2nd round pick that Packers targeted in 2020 draft. Most predicted him to be our 1st round pick that year. Has fallen on depth chart and was only targeted 25 times last year, averaged 17 YPC. He is 6'3 220 lbs and runs 4.4. Jets have floated trading him for 2 years. They don't need him, we do. East 2nd round pick this year if he was in this draft.
Jeremy Ruckert cap hit 1.1 million, 3rd round pick from Ohio State last year. A good TE that the Jets haven't had a chance to fall in love with yet. Only had 2 targets last year. Would be our best TE if we got him right now. Ask for him. Position of great need.
Mekhi Becton cap hit 6 million. 11th pick in 2020 draft. Hasn't been on field much and Jets have floated moving on. Really high ceiling and could be a steal for us especially if we are trading Bahk. He is a starting OT when healthy.
I would ask for all 4 even if we were getting more picks. Seattle got Noah Fant, Shelby Harrison and Drew Locke included in trade because they wanted them and trading players is not as painful as picks. Jets would say yes if we asked. Good, useful, talented, CHEAP, players that could easily make Green Bays roster should be a no brainer.
golfpacker1
March 10, 2023 at 10:05 am
2 of the 4 players above were not drafted by the current coaching staff of the Jets. They don't need them, we do. Especially if we are getting only a couple of picks back.