Cory's Corner: Is ILB The Best Positional Group?

Two athletic linebackers are ready to set the tone in 2023 defense. 

Who would’ve thought that inside linebacker would actually be a strength for the Packers?

Going into next season, the best positional group in Green Bay will likely be at inside linebacker. 

De’Vondre Campbell proved the rest of the NFL wrong that doubted him by being named a first team All-Pro in 2021 — his sixth season in the league. This past season, he missed four games but still finished the season third on the team in tackles with 96 and allowed a passer rating of 78.9. (If you think that rating is high, Rashan Gary allowed a passer rating of 83.3.)

Then there’s Quay Walker. He is the epitome of athleticism. He can get from sideline to sideline in a heartbeat, only allowed a passer rating of 63.6 and had a missed tackle percentage of 4.7 percent. 

Walker’s biggest hurdle is going to be himself. He has to play within himself, while keeping his emotions in check. 

The ironic thing about those two is that the Packers basically shunned that entire position for so many years. It has been filled with guys like Brad Jones, Sam Barrington, Nate Palmer, Joe Thomas and Jake Ryan. Granted, the Packers did have an A.J. Hawk or Blake Martinez as one inside linebacker, but the other one was something to be desired. 

Now I know that Walker is only entering his sophomore season, but I still think he can be that guy. We’ve seen what a healthy Campbell can do. The only question mark is if Walker can not let anyone else in his head. 

I really like how this defense is shaping up. (And yes, it all depends if defensive coordinator Joe Barry is willing to unleash these guys. But that’s a column for another day.)

What’s going to hold the defense together is going to be the inside linebackers. They are fast, athletic and dynamic. The perfect antidote for speedy and versatile offensive weapons — something that more and more teams are hoarding. One of the reasons the Eagles and Chiefs are playing on Sunday is because both offer plenty of playmaking ability on offense.  

Having solid, reliable inside linebackers are the difference between third-and-3 and third-and-7. And that’s why the Packers will be competitive in the NFC North — regardless of who is playing quarterback.  
 

 

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Cory Jennerjohn is a graduate from UW-Oshkosh and has been in sports media for over 15 years. He was a co-host on "Clubhouse Live" and has also done various radio and TV work as well. He has written for newspapers, magazines and websites. He currently is a columnist for CHTV and also does various podcasts. He recently earned his Masters degree from the University of Iowa. He can be found on Twitter: @Coryjennerjohn

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NickPerry's picture

February 07, 2023 at 06:41 am

I actually sort of agree with this Cory. I would have thought the secondary was the best group but with no coach as of now and the lack of safeties on this roster I'll hold off on that thought until more is revealed. I like Walker, he got better and better with each passing game. Save the 2 boneheaded plays at the end of the year and he was really pretty good. Campbell also improved and if he get just closer to the 2021 version they'll be set... At ILB anyways.

BUT, the problem is still Joe Barry. Personally I think 2023 will be Barry's last season in GB. Because MLF decided to keep Barry, 2023 will probably be LaFleur's last season in GB too. Talk about the blind leading the blind.

When does Murphy HAVE to retire? It can't come soon enough for me.

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Since'61's picture

February 07, 2023 at 08:12 am

Murphy is scheduled to retire in July 2025. Hang on Nick. Thanks, Since '61

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

February 07, 2023 at 08:30 am

Well Barry is back so all we can hope for is that he figures it out. He certainly has the players to do so.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

February 07, 2023 at 11:06 am

Barry is a checkers player - when a chess player is required.

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Since'61's picture

February 07, 2023 at 02:50 pm

Barry is not even a good checkers player. Thanks, Since '61

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bjkdad44's picture

February 07, 2023 at 08:53 am

Man… I couldn’t agree more!!!!!

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crayzpackfan's picture

February 07, 2023 at 02:27 pm

Nick - "BUT, the problem is still Joe Barry. Personally I think 2023 will be Barry's last season in GB" Unless he has a come to Jesus moment, I hope you're right and he's working on his garden and strawberry-rhubarb jam canning in 2024.

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RCPackerFan's picture

February 07, 2023 at 07:30 am

I like how they finally tried to strengthen the ILB position. The signed Campbell to a lower priced deal and he turned in an impressive first year. This last year wasn't as good, with injuries and whatnot. But they did give him a big contract to keep him. And then they drafted Walker. Walker had a typically rookie year. A lot of ups and downs. But his future looks bright. I love how he attacks the ball when tackling. He forced 3 fumbles this year. I don't remember the last time we had an ILB that forced fumbles.

Moving forward with Walker having a year under his belt, he should only improve. The game should slow down for him. He should be playing faster. Towards the end of the year we saw them starting to move Walker around a bit more. They had him pass rushing and blitzing from the outside so he could use speed.

Clearly Walker has some maturing to do. After being ejected twice he will need to learn from it and grow. I believe he can and will.

After Campbell and Walker they have Krys Barnes, and Isaiah McDuffie. McDuffie clearly took a year 2 jump. When he made it onto the field he wasn't a weak point that the offense could attack. Barnes was injured and missed a lot of the season but he is a good player that they could find ways to use him with Campbell and Walker.

The ILB position is way improved from past years. I am excited for the future of this position!

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BirdDogUni's picture

February 07, 2023 at 08:28 am

They only ignored the position for like a decade before finally deciding to draft Walker. Seems about right.

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 07, 2023 at 08:32 am

They need Pass Rush. The ILBs were still gouged by running teams.

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RCPackerFan's picture

February 07, 2023 at 09:13 am

I think Pass Rush is the biggest need on defense this offseason. Some will say safety. But I think they have to improve the pass rush. Once Gary went down it showed how much we relied on him being our pass rusher.

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PackyCheese500's picture

February 07, 2023 at 09:20 am

Hopefully we get both. I would like us to draft JL Skinner (SS) and one of Lukas Van Ness, Will McDonald IV, Zach Harrison, or Felix Uzomah

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RCPackerFan's picture

February 07, 2023 at 10:43 am

I agree. I am a bit behind in looking into the draft and prospects, but there is time.

I just feel we need to upgrade the pass rush. I would love an explosive type of pass rusher. Someone that can use speed and bend the corner. We really don't have that type of rusher and haven't since Clay.

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 07, 2023 at 11:38 am

The reason I obsess over bringing Benton onboard as a 3-4 tech and the one pick to Uzomah, as the KBG profile. McDonald is around 235lbs, so he's a fast blast off the edge. Can he hold point vs NFL OTs? Zach Harrison is a guy who improved all through college. He should go 2nd round. Three more months of this chicken pecking.

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dobber's picture

February 07, 2023 at 10:15 am

Pretty much. Depth on the outside is important--and as you say, when Gary got hurt, that lack of depth was exposed. People were pretty hard on P. Smith, but 5 of his 8.5 sacks came after Gary was done, and he did that with opponents keying on him as the only established outside rusher.

I like Enagbare as a 3rd OLB. I'm not sure he'll be much more than that, but he looked like he belonged--even as a rookie--when pressed into extended duty last year. The Packers played him heavily the first couple games after Gary got hurt, but then divided those snap with him, Hollins, and Garvin. I hope Enagbare develops this off-season and can hold down the fort until Gary returns. If the Packers bring back Hollins--who should be relatively inexpensive--I could see them not going OLB until later in day 2 or into day 3.

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T7Steve's picture

February 07, 2023 at 10:55 am

P. Smith is one to keep. Very reliable and more importantly available. A good start.

I think Enagbare was stouter against the run than I expected too.

If they can get some bodies in the middle, it will only help the edges and of course the rest of the D on the field.

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RCPackerFan's picture

February 07, 2023 at 10:57 am

I really like Smith and Enagbare. But Smith is not a guy that scares offenses. He is very good in the run game and can get to the QB. Enagbare I think could develop into a really good pass rusher. Year 2 could be very good for him if he can take that year 2 jump.
But neither of those guys are guys that offenses have to key in on. They don't really put a lot of fear into the offense. They aren't Gary. Perhaps Enagbare will down the road, we shall see.

I just think we need an explosive pass rusher that will put more fear into offenses. Someone that makes the QB get off of his spot faster then normal.

I did like what Hollins brought in. I wouldn't mind if they brought him back.

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T7Steve's picture

February 07, 2023 at 01:55 pm

Yes all those are good in a rotation and certain packages. With Smith getting to be the elder of the bunch it wouldn't hurt to back off on his snaps ealy in a game.

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RCPackerFan's picture

February 07, 2023 at 08:47 am

Remember when we heard the front office say that the ILB position wasn't important. And year in and year out we never addressed the position.

It feels like to me that when Campbell became the DPOY a light bulb went off in the front office's head, and they learned how much better a defense is with great ILB play. Then they resign Campbell and draft Walker.

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greengold's picture

February 07, 2023 at 09:32 am

Yeah, RC, pairing two great ILB talents, along with filling the needs at all the other positions, can transform a top ranked defense into a legendary one.

Last season was tough when Gary went down, and Amos regressed for the first time ever. Possibly cause & effect there, but, our weakness showed significantly at EDGE, S & CB.

ILB was not a concern with both Campbell & Walker on the field.

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T7Steve's picture

February 07, 2023 at 07:32 am

As Nick says above I'd think the DBs were the best, but their depth got challenged last year with the injuries. They probably won't be able to bring back some of those free agents that helped out so well either.

I don't think Campbell regressed last year. I think he finally got some more help. I really thought Barns was good the year before and if he can stay healthy give us a great depth piece for different packages to show other teams.

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croatpackfan's picture

February 07, 2023 at 07:33 am

Cory, I do not think that Packers has 2 best ILBs in the league, but they certainly are looking as above average pair. With strong DL, they can excel. Will they? That is the question. Many times in the past Packers were announcing for many different group positions that this or that group will excel, but we got nothing than disappointment. Sometimes there was injuries, sometimes, bad coaching, sometimes lack of effort or whatever else...

So, claiming any position group to be at least above average before preseason even started is little bit like astrological prediction from Debra Silverman...

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egbertsouse's picture

February 07, 2023 at 07:47 am

Good one!

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PackyCheese500's picture

February 07, 2023 at 08:18 am

I think Quay has potential to be one of the best in the league

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croatpackfan's picture

February 07, 2023 at 10:38 am

I agree, but I was talking about pair.

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greengold's picture

February 07, 2023 at 08:02 am

Cory, this is one of your best pieces. I agree 100%.

ILB had been a thorn in the Packers side for decades. Even with AJ Hawk, whom I think many of us expected more from throughout the expanse of his career. Nick Barnett never moved the meter for me personally. Athletic? Sure. But, always late because he lacked instincts for consistently making plays at the point of attack. Hawk was more sure, but lacked the wheels, the speed to consistently make an impact.

Campbell was a godsend who delivered from early in his Packers tenure. Walker, athletic and instinctual to make plays all over the place.

None of us liked seeing his reactions emotionally take himself out of two contests by being disqualified.

Those are a young man’s mistakes.

Maybe the positive takeaway for all of us Packer fans regarding Walker’s miscues there was how noticeably disappointed he was in himself for failing to control his emotions, and reacting in a way that hurt his team.

I appreciated seeing that after his latest DQ, and have confidence this super talented player will learn from that. His next greatest hurdle will be recognizing the next trigger, and opposing teams will test him. Again & again. Those trigger points need to be recognized and acted upon differently, with cool, calm, positive and measured actions, instead of reactions.

That comes with maturity. I trust he’s learned. We’ll see.

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Johnblood27's picture

February 07, 2023 at 08:11 am

What???

We have a 4 - FOUR! - Time MVP at QB with a first round talent laden stud backing him up and learning the ropes!

QB is by far the GB Packers best position group.

How dare you write a column here at CHTV about anything but QB.

Oh yeah, you did sneak in that last line...

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LeotisHarris's picture

February 07, 2023 at 08:34 am

Quay is a tremendous athlete and has made nice progress in playing his position. I'm hopeful his lack of impulse control is a maturity issue and not something more involved. Years ago I worked with young people with emotional/behavioral disorders and those kids acted out in ways that got them into trouble. Afterward, they were remorseful, but in the moment, they didn't have the coping skills to behave differently. I hope he's getting more than "be smart" as intervention, and that his behavior doesn't get him in trouble off the field.

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greengold's picture

February 07, 2023 at 08:54 am

Great point, Leotis. It’s indeed a bigger issue requiring more that “be smart.”

He needs, as exhibited by his 2 DQs, to be taught a plan of recognition for his trigger points, and a change in response to a more measured, controlled, positive course of action.

Whether that’s done through coaching or counseling, it ought to be a top priority by the Packers staff to assist him.

Such actions by LaFleur’s staff now could help prevent something worse down the line, on or off field.

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bjkdad44's picture

February 07, 2023 at 08:52 am

Agree… but it should NOT be an article for another day!!!

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Since'75's picture

February 07, 2023 at 09:45 am

Campbell is clearly better than average.

But Quay Walker is a different breed.
Athletic...check
Availability...check
Tackling....once some yardage has been gained...check
3 forced fumbles...NICE

Instincts and play recognition...not so much
PFF Score...51.9
Wonderlic score...9
Incredibility stupid moments (plural)....check
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Quay Walker has 99 problems and all of them are between his ears.

We'll see what happens in year two.

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Heyward's picture

February 07, 2023 at 09:55 am

You can't compare Campbell's passer rating to Gary's. Campbell is used in coverage all the time while Gary is almost never asked to play in space.

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stockholder's picture

February 07, 2023 at 10:18 am

Walker can play any of the LB positions.
Future All-pro.

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T7Steve's picture

February 07, 2023 at 11:01 am

I would like to see them switch it up more and have Cambell rush the passer to keep the O-line in check. I think it would help both of their styles and consistency. They didn't use them to rush the passer much, till towards the end of the season, and really only did it with Quay.

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 07, 2023 at 01:51 pm

PFN Player Trades are Unknown, but necessary.

#15/116 to Lions for #18/48 Bhak stays. OTs off the board. Get a Vet FA for the RT spot. after the top eight picks it evens out.
#18 to JAX for #24/56
#24/151 to Pitt for #32/49

#32 Uzomah K-State Edge
#45 Kincaid Utah TE
#48 Schmitz Gophers C/OG
#49 Tillman Tenn WR
#56 Robinson Fl State S
#78 Benton Badgers DT
#126 Trice Purdue CB
#225 Averett B Cook TE/Inline
#234 Herbig Badgers OLB
#244 Bush Cincy CB
#256 Hall N'western RB
#259 Nchami Maryland Edge

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Since'75's picture

February 07, 2023 at 12:47 pm

If Walker had Campbells instincts, yes...future All Pro....no doubt.

Walker may (could) learn to play with discipline, but instincts are a harder teach.

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Since'75's picture

February 07, 2023 at 02:08 pm

The elephant in the room isn't at ILB, it's at edge rusher.

For some unknown reason to me, the Packers thought an investment in Preston Smith was good strategy in a new contract a year ago.
Thankfully, they didn't give him heavy guaranteed money.
After giving him 14 million in 2022. Yes, that amount is correct.
They are due to pay him 10.6 million this season.
With 8.1 million of it due by March 19th.

What i'm trying to say is that his rate of pay far exceeds his production imo, but then again, this is the Packers way.

They could cut ties with Preston right now, and save 3.2 million.
But now.....with Gary on the mend and uncertain, they most likely have no choice but to keep Smith while plugging in Kingsley Enagbare until Gary comes back.
Gary will enjoy (he earned it) almost 11 million guaranteed in his 5th year option this season, no matter what.

In 4 seasons, the Packers have paid Smith 50 million over 4 years for 33.5 sacks, and 4 FF's.
You decide

Either way, i don't think our pass rush is going to scare anyone unless Wyatt can light things up and justify being a 1st round pick.
Again, we'll look for that 2nd year leap.

A lot of questions with Wyatt, Walker, Watson and Doubs next season.
The good games they did have, have to turn into consistent games.

With Doubs and Watson...a good 3 or 4 game stretch is wonderful, it shows flashes of potential.
But...there is still work to do before you can call yourself the #1 or #2 receiver.
This is why good teams, don't rely on a rookie draft class for passing success.
Most Championship teams like the Chiefs, will reboot, or add talent they lost.
Where the Packers, as far as receivers, were clearly in a rebuild....on the fly.

Just keepin it 💯

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