Cory's Corner: Clock is ticking for Davante Adams

Training camp is only a month away.

But Davante Adams is running out of time.

Last year Adams posted one of the worst seasons by a receiver. Granted, his 483 receiving yards were a career high but when you take into account his 93 targets — which were tied with Chicago’s Alshon Jeffery — good for 50th in the NFL, then it looks much worse.

And an offseason hasn’t helped the former second round pick. He has looked lost, has shown difficulty getting off the ball and most importantly, the drops are back. Let’s not forget that Adams dropped six balls last year.

Adams had plenty of promise when he came out of Fresno State, a place where he broke Henry Ellard’s record for touchdowns in a season with 24 in 2013.

As a rookie, Adams started 11 games after the Packers opted not to bring back James Jones.

And now, Adams doesn’t know which way is up. The Jeff Janis train has been building momentum ever since his electrifying performance at Arizona and coach Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers continue to praise Jared Abbrederis for his route precision, attention to detail and gym rat quality.

If Adams didn’t feel some heat last year, he should be feeling those guys as well as a very capable Ty Montgomery nipping at his heels.

The Packers would like Adams to figure it out and ultimately be the No. 3 wideout they had envisioned when they drafted him a couple years ago. However, you can only drop so many balls before the coaching staff and the quarterback start to question you and eventually lose faith.

And that’s where Adams is now. He needs to prove things to his coaches. He needs to prove things to his quarterback. But most importantly, he needs to prove things to himself. He needs to believe that he can be successful in this league — which I think he can.

He is just going through a case of the yips. We’ve seen plenty of athletes struggle with this. Remember when Chuck Knoblauch couldn’t throw a ball from second to first? That’s where Adams is right now.

The good news for Adams is that he can still right the ship. He must treat every practice like it’s the Super Bowl this summer. Because if he cannot get open against his own teammates, how in the world is he going to get open against someone else?

The bad news is that Adams isn’t going to be given a lot of strikes. If he struggles in training camp and looks overmatched in the preseason, his starting job will likely be up in the air.

 

 

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Cory Jennerjohn is a graduate from UW-Oshkosh and has been in sports media for over 15 years. He was a co-host on "Clubhouse Live" and has also done various radio and TV work as well. He has written for newspapers, magazines and websites. He currently is a columnist for CHTV and also does various podcasts. He recently earned his Masters degree from the University of Iowa. He can be found on Twitter: @Coryjennerjohn

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Bearmeat's picture

June 18, 2016 at 06:42 am

Who's going to be the 3rd WR starting over him? Montgomery? If his ankle is healed, mayyyybe. But I doubt it. I'd be shocked if it were Janis. Dude can't run the right route to save his life. Abby plays slot and Davis is a rook.

Adams will start in the 311 package. The end.

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Rossonero's picture

June 18, 2016 at 07:51 am

Part of Janis' problem has been beating aggressive press coverage at the line of scrimmage. It's hard for any WR to run a route when they're getting bumped out of it right from the start. I'm sure that's something he's focusing on this off-season (at least I hope he is).

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Tundraboy's picture

June 18, 2016 at 07:57 am

Considering he is pretty strong that is a mystery. Another area he has to work on and hopefully is.

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Shinesman's picture

June 20, 2016 at 06:38 pm

IDK about this, many people say he has blown by our own cover guys, plus he beats double bump coverage as a punt gunner all the time. He doesn't get reps because the Packers more than any other team place a premium on where you were drafted which directly dictates your opportunity level.

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SpudRapids's picture

June 22, 2016 at 11:21 am

I will disagree and agree... Janis can beat press coverage... how else do you explain his domination as a gunner on a punt team. The problem is how he beats press coverage. If you run around it, which he does on the punt team, you mess up the timing and positioning of the route you run. This could be why Rodgers has trust issues with him being in the right place.

Adams has the quick twitch to beat press coverage but I truly think his health contributed to his inability last season. Remember he did miss 3 games last year. If you take that into account his average yards per game went up from 28 ypg to 37 ypg. I think injuries, the added pressure of him "pressing", resulted in the season he had. It's not fair for us to mitigate the impact of the situation he was in. I think he'll bounce back this year and be vastly improved.

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Teflon Ted's picture

June 18, 2016 at 12:03 pm

Ah Bearmeat, Jeffrey Janis will be the no. 3 receiver this season. I can't believe people are that blind and forget what he did in the end of last season. The guy is a serious playmaker. Compared to Adams he's off the charts. The Packers and Aaron Rodgers can't and won't not play him any longer. It will be Janis' job week 1. I compare Janis to Dez Bryant. You don't keep Dez Bryant on the sidelines in favor of Patch "I can't catch" Adams. Sorry.

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Finwiz's picture

June 18, 2016 at 10:00 pm

Teflon - I completely agree with you. Janis proved a lot to me in that playoff game last year. Adams is being challenged and needs to have one heck of a preseason to hold his job. Adams doesn't step up when the pressure is turned on.

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Teflon Ted's picture

June 18, 2016 at 11:18 pm

Finwiz, yes I also like what you have to say and agree. It's nice to actually talk football with someone like you rather than deal with the idiots like Stroh and his other made up names here which Drea courageously pointed out to the world tonight.

Patch Adams to me has a serious and I mean serious confidence problem. You can just see it in his eyes when he speaks. We all know people like that. The eyes never lie that's why Stroh posts wearing sunglasses.

I actually never liked Janis in the beginning but every time he went out on the field something good happened. It's not coincidence. He's a playmaker and his talent and his new found confidence (from last year) is finally going to mesh together and we'll see the makings or beginnings of yet another stud Packers receiver. He's actually more dangerous than Cobb in my opinion .

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Gianich's picture

June 20, 2016 at 12:29 pm

Lil too much Sunday funday for Teflon Ted from the looks of it. Dont get ahead of yourself tiger. While I like the potential I'm not about to give a guy with around 20 total catches in his career a label of "more dangerous than Cobb." But I will give a label of "Tef Ted! Drunk trolling Sunday funday!"

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Shinesman's picture

June 20, 2016 at 06:47 pm

I agree Teflon. The starting 4 should be Nelson and Janis on the outsides and Cobb in the slot. I also think that Davis will be more valuable than Adams due to his speed and apparently his catching ability. Imagine a line-up with Janis and Davis on the outsides, Cobb and Nelson inside, and Lacy in the backfield..... Could be the best offense in the league. 3 of 4 WR who can take the top off a defense and a slimmed down runner who can hardly be tackled by anyone but a DL solo.

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SpudRapids's picture

June 22, 2016 at 11:22 am

I compare Janis to Dez Bryant.... that's just stupid

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NickPerry's picture

June 18, 2016 at 07:05 am

"And an offseason hasn’t helped the former second round pick. He has looked lost, has shown difficulty getting off the ball and most importantly, the drops are back."

If you mean he's looked lost this year at OTA's and dropping balls then I'm really concerned. Thompson isn't one to give up on a 2nd round pick after only 2 seasons in the NFL. If he DOES continue to have these problems then the Packers need to cut their losses and move on, don't keep Adams because of WHERE he was drafted. A bust is a bust if that's what he is. Keeping a player because he was a higher draft pick isn't what's in the best interest of the Packers, especially if Abby, Janis, or anyone else is playing better. BUT I still think having a WR Coach and entering his 3rd year in the offense will make a big difference this year for Adams.

I'm still holding out hope Adams pans out but I get downright pissed when I think Ted could have picked Allen Robinson instead. My God, could you imagine the Packers with Nelson, Cobb, and Robinson? You can't hit em all I guess.

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Bearmeat's picture

June 18, 2016 at 07:46 am

Yeah, Robinson has been far and away the better player. He's faster and bigger than DA. But overall we have no ground on which to stand to criticize Ted in his team building in any area except 2: Front 7 on D and his almost complete disregard of free agency.

He's been nothing short of amazing in the secondary, at WR, QB. Pretty darn good at OL. And successful at RB/FB.

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Rossonero's picture

June 18, 2016 at 07:48 am

He also passed on Jarvis Landry, who's had 194 catches for 1,915 yards in 2 years. Landry had a bad 40 time (4.61) and that was partly why he fell to the bottom of the 2nd round.

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NickPerry's picture

June 18, 2016 at 09:56 am

You're right, Landry has been great but Robinson is really something. I don't watch that NFL Top 100 Players but I was shocked to see Robinson's name going across the bottom of my TV Screen at #31. That's pretty damn high praise for a guy entering just his 3rd season.

We've also watched Packers QB's make WR's much better than they are. Favre did it often but hell, Boykin caught 50 from Rodgers. Greg Jennings left Green Bay and he was never heard from again, at least on the football field not to mention he was no longer doing Old Spice Commercials either. James Jones was great last season for the most part and fell right in place with AR. Great QB's make the WR's around them better, if they can't then the WR must really suck. I don't think Adams sucks, not yet anyways.

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Tundraboy's picture

June 18, 2016 at 07:52 am

It may be ticking for a lot of us fans, but I doubt the Coaching staff and TT.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

June 18, 2016 at 11:45 am

Totally agree. He's not going anywhere. It's way too soon.

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Gianich's picture

June 20, 2016 at 12:36 pm

Too soon to tell. Adams was hurt most of the year and we as fans gloss over that high ankle sprain sticking around for months. He came on nicely in the playoffs before getting hurt...again. BUT Stubborn loyalty and draft pick pride is what had the team rolling with AJ Hawk and Brad Jones starting in the middle. Not too mention about 6-8 weeks late on starting Jake Ryan over Palmer last year. I'm afraid Adams might get too many benefits of the doubt as more CONFIDENT players go to waste on the bench when they could be helping on the field.

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Since'61's picture

June 18, 2016 at 08:33 am

If Adams is indeed "lost", then I ask where are the coaches? The Packers film their practices so the WR coach should be able to work with Adams and correct his errors. As for the drops returning, it is possible that Adams has not adjusted to how Hundley throws the ball versus Rodgers passes. Some receivers need time to adjust to a different QB. Now, having said that, Adams is supposed to be a professional receiver going into his 3rd season. He should understand the offense and he should be able to catch the ball regardless of who is making the throws. If these problems persist throughout the preseason MM will need to start another receiver in his place. It's too soon to write off Adams but if he is not ready to play by the season opener it's time to move on. Adams cost us first downs and maybe even a game or two last season. There's no reason to continue that into this season. Thanks, Since '61

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NickPerry's picture

June 18, 2016 at 09:57 am

^^^^ THIS^^^^

Well said Since '61

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Tundraboy's picture

June 18, 2016 at 11:12 am

Echo that.

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SpudRapids's picture

June 22, 2016 at 11:24 am

What game did he cost us?

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Rossonero's picture

June 18, 2016 at 09:12 am

My hope is last season was just the perfect storm: no running game, banged up O-line, lack of confidence, injuries to himself and many teammates, Rodgers in a funk, no dedicated position coach, etc.

It is indeed a make or break year for the young man. He's going to drop a few passes here and there, but it's how he handles those failures is what will ultimately determine his fate: will he let it get to him? Or have a short memory and push on to make the next play a positive one?

For a guy who caught 233 passes between his Freshman and Sophomore seasons, he knows how to catch. I think it's more mental and he needs to get his confidence back.

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croatpackfan's picture

June 18, 2016 at 09:39 am

I believe in Davante Adams...

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Teflon Ted's picture

June 18, 2016 at 12:06 pm

I believe in Davante Adams... replacement Mr. Jeffrey Janis.

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Gianich's picture

June 20, 2016 at 12:39 pm

I wish I knew you personally. I'd like to take $100 off you by taking Adams to have more catches than Janis on the season...

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3rdigraphics's picture

June 18, 2016 at 09:41 am

Two things really stuck out with me during last season regarding Davante:

1) Adams's ankle MUST have been injured worse than we thought - I remember watching replays of some routes he ran here and there and his cuts were so loopy (anything but sharp) and his stride was just painful to watch during the season.
1) I think it was obvious to everyone that the coaches had so little trust in Jeff Janis that they elected to go with Adams the entire year even though he was injured and continued to play as poorly as he did.

That's all I got...if it's true that the coaches wasted Janis because they were so in love with Adams then that is conduct detrimental by the MM and his staff. I have to believe it's the reasons I stated above.

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TarynsEyes's picture

June 18, 2016 at 09:59 am

" But most importantly, he needs to prove things to himself. He needs to believe that he can be successful in this league ".....

If he has lost his confidence in himself after one bad season then he becomes as useless as the guy who has no self motivation. The NFL is spread over the entire year but the time that really matters is short so time spent on psychological and motivation needs to be short as well. Catch the ball or you're gone for the psychological aspect and move your ass or you're gone for motivation. Simple and direct, other wise you fool yourself that there isn't another who can and will out there. : )

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Bedrock's picture

June 18, 2016 at 10:27 am

I cannot get over how many Janis fans are out there. What did he really do in 'Zona? It wasn't getting open. It wasn't route running. A few fluke-type plays doesn't prove much. What has he ever really shown? I wonder just how many times Rodgers gave a glance and went a different direction because he did something wrong.
OTAs must sure be showing Janis can play without pads on. Count me in. I'm on the Janis train. Oof.
Adams had the targets because Rodgers knew he would be where he's supposed to be. Fix the drops, fix the ankle, we'll be fine.

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TarynsEyes's picture

June 18, 2016 at 10:41 am

When or how often was Adams open or the others for that matter last season? We are all aware of the constant talk of Janis route running but he catches the ball in contested plays whereas Adams shown a developed knack to drop them.
It could be that Adams regains whatever he has lost and keeps his #3 spot and based on the exclaimed draft rd of him and Janis one should hope so. But, until Adams fixes the recently acquired knack of drops, Janis by virtue of catching the ball should be ahead in use. : )

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Bedrock's picture

June 18, 2016 at 10:57 am

This is where I/we have no choice but to trust the coaching staff. Why is, even an injured Adams, in there instead of Janis? How much did Janis affect the offense being in the wrong place? Only the players and coaches know. But gleaning what little has/hasn't been said... Fact is Adams was in and Janis was not. That speaks volumes.

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TarynsEyes's picture

June 18, 2016 at 11:17 am

How much of Rodgers preseason praise have on the decision.
Holmgren once wanted to yank Favre but opted to stick in hopes of him getting it. Doing so with a QB is not the same as a WR since you don't have 5 QB ' S on the team. Perhaps pulling Adams may have been more beneficial to both him and team even if for a game or two. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. But the gains were certainly visible in the end. : )

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Shinesman's picture

June 20, 2016 at 06:54 pm

This is why I have lost faith in the staff. This isn't the first time they have stuck with a guy who wasn't playing well or even earning his time. When the backup can't do any worse, why is it even a question? You put him in and maybe he surprises you. It also might light a fire under the starters rear.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

June 18, 2016 at 11:43 am

You obviously don't watch the games that you see @Bedrock. If you WATCH his game @ Arizona you'll have a different opinion on him and you'd understand the hype. Yea, he isn't as polished when it comes to route running, but that's why he was a low pick and that's why we have coaches. He's going into his 3rd season? Let him grow. Man, I'd love to have seen comments on Donald Driver from Packer fans back in the day.

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Bedrock's picture

June 18, 2016 at 12:51 pm

This isn't really about route running. This is about Adams being where he's supposed to be and Janis not. Watch the Zona game...yup...watch Aaron NOT look for Janis. What a silly statement! My point is, WE don't and cannot possibly know how often Rodgers didn't even look to Janis. He looks to Adams because he's where he's supposed to be. I'm not saying I agree with the philosophy, but the coaches clearly prefer dependability and trustworthiness over Janis. That's why Adams was out there and Janis really has yet to show he is there. Trust me, I'm willing to be very excited if either or both "put it all together". But to this point, statistically speaking, Adams is trustworthy and Janis is not.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

June 18, 2016 at 01:06 pm

"What did he really do in 'Zona? It wasn't getting open. It wasn't route running. A few fluke-type plays doesn't prove much. What has he ever really shown?"

Your words, sir. Not mine.

What did Janis really do: get open and SHOULD have had AT LEAST 4 TDs that game, but Rodgers threw some really bad passes his way. He got deep and burnt the CB twice.

It wasn't getting open: Go watch that game again. Or I could provide links to those plays.

It wasn't his route running: We all agree his route running isn't where it should be, but I could provide proof of several plays where Janis was open or even wide open and Rodgers either didn't see him or seen him and then ignored him.

A few fluke plays: Do we make the Playoffs without Richard Rodgers "fluke play"? We were way overdue for a "fluke play" anyway.

What has Janis ever really shown: He'll burn a CB, he was more clutch than majority of our WRs last season in the few chances he was given, he out jumped 2 DBs (one being arguably the best in the league) to give our team a chance to advance, he's an effective run-blocker (our WR coaches value that), and I don't need to mention his ST contribution.

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Bedrock's picture

June 18, 2016 at 01:54 pm

Sir? You assume so much.

I feel we're arguing over two different things.

Janis has clear talent. Adams is the one whom the players and coaches wanted out there. Janis, minus 2 catches for 101 yards, had a rather pedestrian game. Game. Singular. Much like Adams, really. My point: why was Adams the choice and not Janis? We as fans love Janis' potential...which is really an ugly word. Again, statistically speaking, Janis doesn't have a body of work to prove his talent trumps his deficiencies.
I am not arguing talent. I'm arguing the coaches know more than you or me. Truth is, given the healthy choice between the two, Adams was out there. Why?

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DrealynWilliams's picture

June 18, 2016 at 02:25 pm

"I am not arguing talent. I'm arguing the coaches know more than you or me. Truth is, given the healthy choice between the two, Adams was out there. Why?"

This is TOTALLY DIFFERENT from your initial post.

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Teflon Ted's picture

June 18, 2016 at 03:02 pm

"trumps his deficiencies."

Bedrock, I have to say I love your use of words.

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Bearmeat's picture

June 18, 2016 at 04:23 pm

Hey Teflon Ted! I mean... DonaldTrumps... haven't seen you in awhile!

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

June 19, 2016 at 10:11 am

This is like what, his 6th handle here?

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tm_inter's picture

June 18, 2016 at 05:49 pm

I'm arguing the coaches know more than you or me.
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They should but sometimes they don't. That's why we've had new special teams coach, new tight end coach, new running back coach, new wide receiver coach.

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Tundraboy's picture

June 18, 2016 at 06:01 pm

He did one if the most important things, Caught the ball. He also jumped and out fought the CBs also kind of important.

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SpudRapids's picture

June 22, 2016 at 11:31 am

If you take the two desperation heaves away from Janis on Arizona he had 5 catches for 44 yards and a touchdown. Pedestrian.

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OhioPackerFan's picture

June 18, 2016 at 10:48 am

Railbird Central had a guest writer a few months ago that specializes in tracking receivers across the league. His firm tracks every receiver on every play. He goes way beyond targets, catches and yards and looks what the receiver did on every play and if he won the route and was open.

He wasn't surprised at all with the poor season Adams had. In his first season Adams was ranked by him as the 2nd lowest receiver in the league. So last year just confirmed what Adams did as a rookie. DA proved he was not a #1 and is just a poor #3 receiver that we need to replace.

Janis with no game experience going up against the opponents best cover defender had a big day in a big game vs the Cards. DA needs to be traded or cut. Too much receiving talent other than DA on the roster.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

June 18, 2016 at 11:34 am

"ranked 2nd lowest...just a poor #3" but should be traded or cut. Yea, okay.

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Teflon Ted's picture

June 18, 2016 at 12:12 pm

Excellent comment Ohio.

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stockholder's picture

June 18, 2016 at 11:55 am

Psychics; The peripheral preference and treatment is dangerous to this offense! And A-ROD. This offense was better when Adams got hurt! He's still having trouble in camp. Not only has he not shown the toughness for the NFL, he never showed up in the playoffs. Playoffs are the true gauge to whom can perform, and whom should not be a Packer. (Your up against the best defenses! ) Screw the route trees. If route trees are your argument, the packers should bring back Jones. It's Timing, speed, and who can Catch! WR's are suppose to be the weapons of the team. Your quick strikes. Adams is not. He can't return jack. He should take off those gloves and forget about his manicure. He's not special! He's not clutch. Montgomery and Janis are bigger and ready. You'll only hurt them now. Jared and davis too. Why should a guy be drafted for the PS? I'd rather see what Davis can do.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

June 18, 2016 at 01:11 pm

(2015)Cowboys - 18 Targets/8 Catches/124 Yards/1 TD - Long 46 yds

(2016) Washington - 4 Targets /4 Catches /48 Yards/1 TD - Long 20

EDIT: 11 Targets/7 Catches/117 Yards/1 TD - Long 46 Yards against Cowboys. The rest of his 2015 Playoff stats came from the next game (Seahawks).

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

June 18, 2016 at 01:50 pm

I just worry they end up cutting a good player over Adams because he was a 2nd round pick. Sooner or later one of Thompsons 2nd round WRs was not going to pan out.

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PaulRosik's picture

June 18, 2016 at 08:30 pm

Didn't we just have the "I believe in Adams" article? Oh well we could always wait and see who is healthy enough to play and who looks good in actual practice and game situations.

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Teflon Ted's picture

June 19, 2016 at 12:05 am

Paul Strohzak, why dont you write an article so we can all bash the hell out of you. I'll think of something believe me.

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ray nichkee's picture

June 18, 2016 at 11:40 pm

This site is much better without the STROH-KER arguing with everybody. Either it's the desert heat or he's a plain old whack job. I can see him as a physical trainer yelling at his patients "you're doing it all wrong." it's obvious on here not many people agree with him and sometimes he pulls something out of his ass that makes sense. Now he will be trolling me for a while again but I had to say my peace.

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Teflon Ted's picture

June 19, 2016 at 12:14 am

Nichkee, this is an annual ritual as you well know. Stroh comes here every year under numerous I.D's, pisses people off (today it was Dr. Drea) and then claims his innocence and accuses Dre of being weak and not able to take criticism. The guy is a classic narcissist. He's a wind bag opportunist looking to fight with anyone willing to oblige. He really believes he's the smartest guy here. He definately will be trolling you now that you called him STROH-KER haha. This is called the offseason for a reason. haha

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

June 19, 2016 at 10:50 am

"comes here every year under numerous I.D's, pisses people off"

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Whew, what was good. Oh wait it's hitting me agian.

HahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaHahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaHahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha !

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lucky953's picture

June 18, 2016 at 11:44 pm

There's no denying that, so far, Adams does not play like an NFL receiver. You're saying Adams has lost confidence. He never seemed to have much to begin with. He strikes me as a bit soft, like he'd rather be working at some other job. Maybe he's better suited to an MBA program. He really doesn't seem to have the requisite desire, but perhaps he's just a very quiet man. I don't know much about scouting, but whatever it was they thought he could do, he can't--at this level.

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marpag1's picture

June 19, 2016 at 05:40 am

I have no real problem with this article except that it lacks evidence. Has some new information about Adams come to light to show us that "an offseason hasn’t helped" or that he still "looked lost" or is still struggling to catch the ball? Maybe it has, but the article doesn't really say why this assertion has been made.

In the bigger picture, I think this lack of evidence about the WR corps is the sensible position to take. Bottom line, unfortunately, is "we don't know." Everybody seems to be asking the question, "Which wide receiver will step up to become the next stud?" But the grim reality right now is that the possibility certainly exists that ALL OF THEM MIGHT SUCK.

I'm not saying that they WILL suck, but it is definitely possible. Nelson might not come back from his injury. Cobb certainly did not seem very explosive last year. Maybe his first few years were the aberration, and he just can't do it without a monster on the other side. And neither Adams nor Janis nor Abrederris has shown nearly enough to prove that they are fully competent.

I disagree (and have said so many times) with those who say "Every time Janis stepped on the field, great things happened." That is simply incorrect, and it doesn't become more correct just because people keep on saying it. I have also disagreed with those who say that "Rodgers doesn't look for Janis." That's also incorrect. The actual evidence that we have is this: On a targets per snap basis - in other words, "when the player is on the field" - Rodgers throws to Janis MORE than any other receiver except Abby. yet up until the last three snaps of the Arizona loss, 128 Janis snaps resulted in a paltry 123 receiving yards... all season up to that time. You can argue if you want that Janis "saw the light" in the last three snaps of the final game, and that having now seen it he will truly be transformed into a stud. I hope you're right, but his performance certainly was NOT studly prior to that time, and there is precious little evidence to prove that anything has changed. Same with Abby, same with Adams, same with Monty or the rookies.

The immortal David Tyree once made what many people call the greatest catch in superbowl history.

David Tyree sucked.

Jeff Janis needs to prove that he is something more than David Tyree.

Heck, ALL of our receivers might suck. Is it likely? Maybe not. Is it possible? Absolutely.

PS - Yeah, I know... you're welcome for this little ray of sunshine. :)

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

June 19, 2016 at 07:20 am

Abby - 99 snaps yielding 111 yards (1.12 yards per snap.)
Janis = 128 snaps yielded 123 yards (.96 yards per snap).
Jones - 1045 snaps yielded 890 yards (.85 yards per snap).
Cobb = 1050 snaps yielded 829 yards (.79 yards per snap).
Adams: 763 snaps yielded 483 yards (.63 yds per snap).
Monty: 242 snaps yielded 136 yards (.56 yards per snap).

The winners: Abby and Janis.
The losers; Montgomery and Adams.

Stats are sometimes useful, and sometimes they need some context. Edit: But as a note, I actually agree with your post (had to yank some chain though!). I've been hammered for writing that GB might keep 7 WRs because that last guy just plays too well to risk on the PS, but the more likely scenario if 7 are kept on the 53 man roster is that the last few guys did not separate themselves from the pack.

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marpag1's picture

June 19, 2016 at 07:39 am

Granted, TGR. As for the stats, I agree that they need context. I also agree that stats are useful... even more useful if you quote them accurately.

Yours are a bit wonky, but the conclusion you have drawn is true enough.

Counting playoffs, these are the numbers for Abby, Adams and Janis.

Abby - 99 snaps yielded 180 yards (1.82 yards per snap).
Janis - 131 snaps yielded 224 yards (1.71 yards per snap).
Adams - 763 snaps yielded 531 yards (.70 yards per snap).

So you're right that on a yards per snap basis over the whole year, Janis was better than Adams. But this was not my point.

I said that I disagreed with the notion that Janis was a beast EVERY TIME HE STEPPED ON THE FIELD. Clearly, no. He only caught passes in two games all year. Four catches (two in SD and two in ARI) accounted for 180 out of 224 yards. This means that in all other snaps he garnered 44 yards. So would we say that he was a "beast every time he stepped on the field?" I certainly wouldn't. And that's why I made the comparison to Tyree. Catching a desperation ball or two does not mean you are a good player.

I also said that I disagree with the notion that Rodgers "doesn't look for Janis." That doesn't depend on yards gained per snap. Targets per snap is a much better metric there, and in targets per snap, Janis is second highest.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

June 19, 2016 at 08:06 am

"But as a note, I actually agree with your post (had to yank some chain though!)." So, I was Just yanking your chain even though I agreed with all of your points. Gotta go do father's day.

Happy Father's Day!

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marpag1's picture

June 19, 2016 at 08:12 am

hehe.... just yanking a little bit of chain myself, TGR. Happy Fathers' Day to you too.

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oldpointer's picture

June 19, 2016 at 10:14 pm

The majority of receivers had bad yeas last year. The absence of speed allowed the coverage to manhandle Cobb and Adams and the nagging injuries hampered Adams all year. He's never going to be a burner but could be a steady possession receiver that keeps drives going. He'll make the roster and, if healthy, contribute significantly if the other receivers also stay healthy. As always, that's a big if.

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OhioPackerFan's picture

June 21, 2016 at 01:36 pm

I mentioned in an earlier post I thought Railbird Central had a guest a couple of months ago that was able to quantify the Adams issue especially since he expected the dismal 2015 season DA had based on what he saw in 2014. Below is the link, Good stuff on DA, JJ, Randall, and Jeff.

DA needs to go.

http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/railbird-central-podcast-the-reception-perc...

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