Packers Deep Dive - Third Round Draft Pick MarShawn Lloyd

A detailed scouting report on MarShawn Lloyd, the 88th overall pick in the 2024 NFL Draft and Green Bay's new running back.

Green Bay addressed the running back position in the 2024 NFL Draft in the shape of MarShawn Lloyd, selecting the former USC Trojan with the 88th overall pick and giving head coach Matt LaFleur a healthy stable of backs to utilize in 2024 and beyond.

Measurables:

5’8 ⅔”. 220 lbs. Hands - 8.75”. Arms - 30.375”. Bench - 25 reps. 40-yard dash - 4.46. 10-yard split - 1.60. Vertical - 36”. Broad - 9’10”. Did not complete 3-cone or shuttle drills.

General Info and Background:

Despite being born and raised in Delaware, Lloyd attended DeMatha Catholic High School in Maryland in order to improve his prospects of playing football at the college level. This meant a daily four-hour commute.

After a successful high school career, Lloyd committed to South Carolina, but also had interest from Kentucky, Rutgers, Michigan, Notre Dame, Ohio State, USC, Maryland, Georgia and Penn State. He was a four-star recruit coming out of high school.

Lloyd’s freshman year was curtailed by an ACL tear which he suffered just two days into fall camp. This caused him to redshirt the 2020 season, before serving as a backup in 2021, carrying the ball 64 times for 228 yards, a 3.6 average, and one touchdown.

His role increased in 2022, as he tallied 111 carries, for 573 yards, a 5.2 average, and nine touchdowns. Lloyd transferred to USC for his final college season, racking up 116 carries for 820 yards, an impressive 7.1 yard average, and nine touchdowns.

PFF ranked Lloyd as the 45th best runner in the FBS for 2023 out of 157 players with at least 100 carries, and he was an All-Pac-12 honorable mention. The running back was named to the 2022 SEC Football Community Service Team.

Lloyd attended both the Senior Bowl and the NFL Scouting Combine during the pre-draft process. He will be 23 years old during his rookie season.

Strengths:

As a runner, Lloyd has an excellent blend of explosiveness, power, speed, elusiveness and skill.

He is a very efficient mover and is able to get his foot in the ground and go. There is little wasted movement when he cuts or has to break down. Lloyd is quick to change direction and bounce runs to the outside.

There is a nice patience to Lloyd’s running style. He follows blocks well and waits for holes to open up before bursting through them.

He shows the ability to change pace on his runs, slowing down to manipulate the picture in front of him before accelerating again, and has the burst required to play that way. Lloyd is a creative runner who sees the field well and senses opportunities to turn routine runs into explosive ones.

Lloyd has the feet and vision to adjust quickly to what is in front of him. He can make defenders miss with a juke or jump cut, and reacts well to defenders in the backfield, showing the invaluable ability to transform what looks like a negative play into a positive one.

The juice and explosiveness Lloyd possesses allows him to get up to his top speed, which is impressive, quickly when given a lane. He can break down and still has the acceleration ability to bounce outside and beat defenders to the corner.

He may be under 5’9”, but Lloyd has plenty of power packed into his compact, 220 lb frame. As Packers scout Sam Seale put it: “He’s short, but he’s not little”. Lloyd is able to ride or shake off tackles, is slippery and hard to get hold of once he’s up to speed.

The former Trojan is also happy to get his head down and initiate contact, and fights for extra yards. He does not go down easy.

In the passing game, Lloyd shows the ability to catch the ball cleanly and comfortably with his hands and does not let it get into his body.

Playing with Caleb Williams, he learned the art of staying alive late in the play, as seen against UCLA when he turned a flat route upfield and got open behind the defense for a big gain.

He is able to make things happen after the catch, making defenders miss and generally having a good feel for navigating the open field. Lloyd also has experience lining up out wide in spread, 5-wide formations.

There is evidence of success in pass protection for Lloyd, giving good effort and scanning for work. His mass helps him to hold up in that phase of the game.

With less than 300 carries under his belt, there is not much wear on the tires with Lloyd, which should hopefully pay off and keep him fresh later in his career.

Weaknesses:

A consequence of Lloyd’s running style is that there can be too many negative plays. His tendency to try to bounce the ball outside lends itself to these issues.

It is mostly something you can live with, but on 3rd and 1 when he tries to bounce it and ends up losing yards rather than just plunging forward and picking up the first down, it is frustrating.

Lloyd will sometimes eschew, or not see, a fine running lane, because he is looking for something better.

He can still strengthen his lower body, as he can be tripped up by leg tackles too easily at times.

Fumbles have been a problem for Lloyd. He put the ball on the ground four times in 2023 and three times in both 2022 and 2021. This is something he will need to clean up at the next level.

While he projects to be a fine pass catcher in the NFL, Lloyd does not have much production under his belt in that regard. He had just 34 catches in his college career, and did not run particularly advanced routes.

His pass protection is up and down, there are some ugly reps on tape as well as the successful ones. The lack of height could always be an issue for him.

Besides the ACL injury, Lloyd also has a broken arm in his history, which caused him to miss his entire sophomore season in high school. He missed games in all of his four college seasons, so there will be questions about his durability.

Overall:

Lloyd’s profile somewhat resembles his new teammate Josh Jacobs, who has similar dimensions at 5’10”, 220 lbs, although Lloyd has the top end athletic traits Jacobs lacked coming out of Alabama. They are both explosive runners with natural instincts for the position.

As a rookie, Lloyd will not be forced into the starting lineup, with Jacobs and A.J. Dillon already on the roster, and can be used to provide an exciting change of pace. In time, he has all the tools to develop into a high quality, starting three-down back.

 

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Mark Oldacres is a sports writer from Birmingham, England and a Green Bay Packers fan. You can follow him on twitter at @MarkOldacres

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stockholder's picture

April 30, 2024 at 03:25 pm

I said it before and I"ll say it again..
FUMBLE.
And that OT you took to protect Love.
Well don't count on this guys blocking.
Because it's never going to happen.

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LeotisHarris's picture

April 30, 2024 at 03:37 pm

Reading this at 3:26 and it already has a thumbs up! Wow. You have an amazing audience waiting on your every post.

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April 30, 2024 at 05:33 pm

Himself?

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Todd's picture

April 30, 2024 at 09:37 pm

He definitely upvotes every one of his posts, and down votes anyone who disagrees or questions him.

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ricky's picture

April 30, 2024 at 03:50 pm

Because the coaching staff didn't think Aaron Jones would be a good blocker, he sat out a lot of games. Over time, and with effort and coaching, he learned how to become a good blocker, as well as the linchpin of the offense. To dismiss him as a blocker, claiming he'll never learn that skill, doesn't make sense.

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Oppy's picture

April 30, 2024 at 05:33 pm

From the man who brought you such time-tested evaluations as "Davante Adams? He's not a good WR. Don't believe his stats... All of his yards are after the catch!"

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NitschkeFan's picture

April 30, 2024 at 05:34 pm

More specifically what I wish Gute or the scouts from Green Bay would elaborate on (and I doubt they ever will), was compare Lloyd to Jaylen Wright.

Both had similar stats, similar size, etc. and Wright had several data points in his favor. Was the film that different?

Wright 137 att 1,013 yds, 7.4 ave, ht 5'10.4'' wt 210, age 21! RAS 9.8 !!!
Lloyd 116 att, 820 yds, 7.1 ave, ht 5'9" wt 220, age 23, RAS 8.59

I trust the Packers scouts and the NFL has spoken (Lloyd pick 88 and Wright pick 120).
But superficially Wright seems younger and more athletic and just as productive (better?).

Edit receiving
Wright 22 receptions, 141 yds
Lloyd 13 receptions, 232 yds,

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April 30, 2024 at 06:55 pm

You covered it, your knowledge (any casual's knowledge) is superficial. It will always be that way. You'll never be in one-on-one interviews, never attend a practice, never see the same level of tape or view a player in relative competitive environments. You are a draft hobbyist, accept that, be a hobbyist, adjust your expectations.

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splitpea1's picture

April 30, 2024 at 03:32 pm

Since I live in Maryland, I naturally had to investigate the details of Lloyd's high school commute. He gets up before 5 A.M. and arrives at school after 7; school ends at 3 P.M. and football practice goes until 6:30. He gets home after 9 and goes to bed a couple hours later. So this guy has been a serious student-athlete for many years...DeMatha is much more famous for its basketball program and some of its graduates, but on the football side has produced Cameron Wake and fellow RB Brian Westbrook.

I've heaped a lot praise on this selection already, so I'll be brief and just say that I think we got a winner here.

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Swisch's picture

April 30, 2024 at 06:03 pm

Good stuff, splitpea1, these kinds of contributions from fans add a lot to CHTV.

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May 01, 2024 at 07:35 am

Thanks for that nugget SP1!

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May 01, 2024 at 09:45 am

Spltpea1, could you confirm if he rode the train with Biden everyday?

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April 30, 2024 at 03:43 pm

I like the pick and the place they took him. I like how he improved each year. I like his measurables. But I am also a realist.
His overall college career stats are 455 carries with a 5.3 YPC, plus an ACL tear.
His carries per game are like 10-12 per the last 2 years and 12-15 the last 3 years.
Not exactly a workhorse by any measure.
I love how he improved each year, but Jesus! only 116 carries last year and 111 the year before? He fumbles the ball too. For that little of carries and to have a fumbling reputation is scary.
This kid, I think has massive Potential. I'm just worried about his lack of use at the college level. 116 carries in todays NFL for a feature back is like 5-7 games. Even if it ends up being him and Jacobs alone sharing the load, 116 carries is like 8-11 games.
My enthusiasm level with this kid is a 10. My skepticism level is a 5 or a 6 for whatever that is worth. Probably not worth much. Great draft!! GPG!!!

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Swisch's picture

April 30, 2024 at 06:17 pm

It seems as though your raise good points, crazypackfan.
I don't think it's out of place to add some realism, even as we root for our players with enthusiasm.
Let's hope the front office of the Packers took such concerns about Lloyd into account before selecting him.
Also, one good thing is that Lloyd wasn't overused in college, the way Wisconsin running backs like Taylor and Gordon may have been in the past.
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Another consideration is that perhaps the day of the workhorse running back is mostly in the past.
Like defensive line, perhaps over such a long season it makes sense to have somewhat of a rotation at running back.
A guy running amok may have more carries in one game, fewer carries in the next if the defense keys on him. Overall, he isn't subjected to undue punishment that wears him out and has him too much banged up.
Also, the passing fame is seemingly more a part of the job description for running backs these days, at least with the Packers -- with receptions somewhat like carries.

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LambeauPlain's picture

May 01, 2024 at 07:45 am

10-12 carries per game is also what Aaron Jones had during his tenure in Green Bay.

I don't expect Lloyd will be a workhorse rookie. I think he can take Jones' role...effective and efficient contributor as they have similar skills. (Jones also had issues with fumbles...always did...had to improve his pass blocking which he did do quite well).

Lloyd doesn't need to be a workhorse in Green Bay.

I wonder if the Ugly Purple expects Jones to be their workhorse. Don't think that will work out.

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April 30, 2024 at 03:57 pm

The injury history gives me pause. But a broken arm from high school? Is that really relevant at this point? The ACL is a red flag, but if the medical staff did their due diligence, and cleared him, that has to be good enough. As far as losing yardage on what should be a one yard lunge, isn't that why they kept Dillon around? Or the TE's? Or even a RB coming out of the backfield and grabbing a three yard gain? I appreciate your due diligence in trying to find reasons to doubt Lloyd after spending so much time praising him. But it seems at times you're grasping at straws. What about falling off his bike at age six, and scraping his chin? With a couple of years behind Jacobs, hopefully Lloyd will become the next incarnation of Aaron Jones. Who I already miss, along with Jamaal Williams.

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April 30, 2024 at 04:03 pm

Seems like a great kid who is dedicated to his craft. But 10 fumbles on 291 carries is pretty eye popping.

Maybe he needs a sit down with Ahman Green.

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April 30, 2024 at 04:21 pm

4 Fumbles in 116 carries. He'll have to improve on that or he won't play, despite his other talents.

However, if we're hoping for the best, I could definitely see him breaking some long runs

Wasn't Tiki Barber a fumbler who changed his carrying style and became very sure-handed? I think so . I'll check.

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April 30, 2024 at 05:05 pm

An interesting tidbit I figured out about Lloyd:
2020 Spencer Rattler stars at Oklahoma
2021 Caleb Williams and Spencer Rattler play at Oklahoma, Marshawn Lloyd plays his freshman year at South Carolina.
2022 Williams transfers to the University of Southern California, Rattler transfers to South Carolina and plays with Lloyd.
2023 Williams plays at Southern California and Lloyd transfers and plays there, while Rattler stars at South Carolina
Now Williams is at Chicago and Lloyd is in Green Bay! (Rattler is in New Orleans)
Apparently there is some strange connection between Williams, Rattler, and Lloyd!

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April 30, 2024 at 05:37 pm

Wonder how close Packers were to drafting Rattler? I’m much happier with Pratt.

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April 30, 2024 at 06:39 pm

The last thing GB needs in the locker room is a Rattler...

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April 30, 2024 at 07:01 pm

He averaged 7.1 yards per carry, and he was still only the 45th best runner in PFF's rankings. How does that work? Do they put a high priority on total yards gained? Did he get dinged for the fumbles?

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April 30, 2024 at 07:29 pm

He's very strong and very fast, but he didn't get that many carries. I mean, he only averaged about 10 carries a game, didn't he? If you penalize a turnover as 40 yards and 4 points (it's a quick math shortcut), and you only had 750 yards to begin with, then a few fumbles would move you down the list.

The more I'm reading about Lloyd, the more I'm starting to like this guy. I'm reading about how Tiki Barber reduced his fumbles by changing his carriage. If this guy can hang onto it, and he gets some blocking, there's going to be some long runs. I mean, Ahman Green type long runs , where he bounces off a guy and makes everyone chase him to the endzone.

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April 30, 2024 at 09:40 pm

Many USC fans thought Riley was focused more on getting Williams a 2nd Heisman than winning games by giving Lloyd more carries.

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April 30, 2024 at 09:22 pm

AJ is now RB3

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May 01, 2024 at 09:25 am

They save 2.2M if they cut or trade him. Maybe I’m alone with this thought, but I think if Lloyd beats him out in camp he is gone.

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May 01, 2024 at 11:28 am

Dillon is going to play until the Packers are confident that Lloyd can be put on the field without hurting the team. I doubt that happens in camp, but perhaps at some point in the season.

Lloyd is faster, and a better runner, but the other things that we need from our RB....like availability, ball security, assignment sureness, etc. would favor Dillon at this point.

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May 01, 2024 at 12:57 pm

"Many USC fans thought Riley was focused more on getting Williams a 2nd Heisman than winning games by giving Lloyd more carries." Great point LL and I will add USC knew there defense was bad, which makes no sense at all considering the the magnitude of their program, so they were not running the ball a ton. They couldn't run clock because they had to score.

Lloyd also doesn't have near the mileage Blake Corum has, less wear & tear is a big deal. Lloyd also doesn't need to carry big expectations next year, he just needs to be a solid all around, complimentary RB who doesn't turn the ball over. If Jacobs is as advertised that will be plenty.

For at least the next 10 years, teams will continue to go away from a workhorse RB who carries the ball 25 times per game. Everybody has a 2 back system. Ours looks pretty talented. I was concerned with Benson's knee injury because it was such a serious one, even tearing his hamstring. But knee surgeries are a far cry from when I tore my ACL back in 1975. Back then unless you were famous, they just removed the damaged tendon and sowed you up, usually with 300 stitches. ACL surgery is now so routine and good that players recover much faster and are just as good.

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